Given the very poor results & performances so far this season long should Slade be given to turn thing round before a change of manager should be made?

On current performances I can't see him lasting past October.

The poll should be .. do we want Fenty out ...

Slade is not the problem at the club.

Quoted from pontoon442

Given the very poor results & performances so far this season long should Slade be given to turn thing round before a change of manager should be made?

All depends on how the season pans out from now.

Slade has to bare some accountability, he signs the players, picks the team and decides on the tactics.

Yes Slade signs the players, yes he organises the team and tactics but I have to agree with the comment above... I've never said it until these past few weeks but we need to be more concerned about JF

FFS

Slade out? Really? Is that the answer?

We're where we are because Paul Hurst left as he wasn't backed correctly by the board and wasn't appreciated and fully supported by the fans. This is after achieving promotion, gathering a team spirit and changing the whole mindset of the football club.
Then we appointed Bignot in what, arguably was too big a step up a transfer budget he has never been used to but appeared to be allowed to play with unchecked left us with a (comparatively) large squad. He clearly had little to no media training and the strain of extra interest really showed. He was also desperate to appease the fanbase. Taking on a professional club with ambitions to go gutter and all that entails including training every day was a step too far.
Then, we put Slade in charge. A steady hand who is far from dynamic he's signed players on the way down and has missed out on key targets.

The back drop to this is a fairly large club who have been non league for too long. We lost some infrastructure, the youth team is just getting re-established. We obviously don't have a strength and conditioning coach. Did we ever replace Steve croudson? Do we have any dedicated coaches to specific roles?
We have a ground we want to leave so haven't invested in that, yet we have no plan or timescale to actually move.
The training ground needs investment.

The problem isn't the management it's above that; but there is little to no chance of that changing.
We need a huge amount of investment but we're hardly an exciting prospect are we? Who in their right mind would come in?

Aren't we panicking just a little early?

Sure, the results and performances haven't been great (although we played well against Crewe) but it is still very, very early days.

Don't get me wrong I am no fan of Slade and wrote a post stating I thought JF was making a mistake appointing him. However, the appointment is made and I think it is too early to start calling for the head of any manager.

We have a largely new team again and sometimes this takes work to get it fully functioning. I am not saying it will start to get better but it may. It is just far too early to start talk about yet another manager.

Maybe instead of getting on the back of the players during the next home game we could provide some support and encouragement. You know, like it used to be in the old days when a supporter actually supported his team.

Do we recall a Paul Hurst out campaign? Now some think he is a new Messiah.

Its not always the answer to sack a manager just because we have a few wobbly games.

We must. E patient, a manager would inherit this squad , got to give it until Xmas, if we are in deep trouble then pull the trigger for sure. Slade is good in a relegation battle and our defence is likely to create one urm

Quoted from darren9

Slade out? Really? Is that the answer?

We're where we are because Paul Hurst left as he wasn't backed correctly by the board and wasn't appreciated and fully supported by the fans. This is after achieving promotion, gathering a team spirit and changing the whole mindset of the football club.
Then we appointed Bignot in what, arguably was too big a step up a transfer budget he has never been used to but appeared to be allowed to play with unchecked left us with a (comparatively) large squad. He clearly had little to no media training and the strain of extra interest really showed. He was also desperate to appease the fanbase. Taking on a professional club with ambitions to go gutter and all that entails including training every day was a step too far.
Then, we put Slade in charge. A steady hand who is far from dynamic he's signed players on the way down and has missed out on key targets.

The back drop to this is a fairly large club who have been non league for too long. We lost some infrastructure, the youth team is just getting re-established. We obviously don't have a strength and conditioning coach. Did we ever replace Steve croudson? Do we have any dedicated coaches to specific roles?
We have a ground we want to leave so haven't invested in that, yet we have no plan or timescale to actually move.
The training ground needs investment.

The problem isn't the management it's above that; but there is little to no chance of that changing.
We need a huge amount of investment but we're hardly an exciting prospect are we? Who in their right mind would come in?

"We're where we are because Paul Hurst left as he wasn't backed correctly by the board"

FFS give over with the Paul Hurst thing he's gone get over it, it is what happens now and the next few months.

"Did we ever replace Steve croudson?"

Not heard of Andy Warrington then?

Far too early for a poll.

Quoted from MarinerMal

Aren't we panicking just a little early?

Sure, the results and performances haven't been great (although we played well against Crewe) but it is still very, very early days.

Don't get me wrong I am no fan of Slade and wrote a post stating I thought JF was making a mistake appointing him. However, the appointment is made and I think it is too early to start calling for the head of any manager.

We have a largely new team again and sometimes this takes work to get it fully functioning. I am not saying it will start to get better but it may. It is just far too early to start talk about yet another manager.

Maybe instead of getting on the back of the players during the next home game we could provide some support and encouragement. You know, like it used to be in the old days when a supporter actually supported his team.

I think the fans started getting on the players backs after the 3rd goal went in. :-/

Quoted from arryarryarry

I think the fans started getting on the players backs after the 3rd goal went in. :-/

As a side note to this; i went to the loo after about 30 minutes and were very surprised to find about 200 Town fans stood around behind the stand drinking and chatting. This was when the game was 0-0.

Found this really odd, they didnt seem to have any interest in the game.  Why pay £20 to stand around drinking shite bottled beer?

Fenty's only error was appointing Slade again.
Everything since then is down to Slade He has been allowed to sign players (on frees I accept but wages have to be paid) but has brought in sh!t, his tactics are awful to say the least and at best outdated. But then you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear and I doubt the current bunch could follow any plan other than hoofball anyway.
Pay peanuts get monkeys especially with a chimp in charge

John Fenty has made many errors during his tenancy of GTFC. Then again, we all make many mistakes in our own lives so he's far from alone in that respect. However, he is basically the custodian of the club because of his financial backing over the years, and sometimes it's difficult for folk in such positions to recognise that their role at the club could actually be holding it back.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, this club will never move on until the fans take ownership of the club via the GTFC Trust. I know there will be the usual posts citing the fact that the club is too much in hock to John and his money - and therein lies the problem. Why do Scunthorpe and Lincoln attract external sponsors who are willing to pump some funds into those clubs yet we don't? I assume it's because of the loans etc that would be too much of a financial burden for someone to want to take on - unless a Russian oligarch suddenly flies over BP on route to Old Trafford and thinks "I'll have some of that instead"

The club will bumble along, maybe stumble along, until the next (current?) crisis hits them and we are looking at the possibility of non league football again. Surely it's time that the fans say "enough is enough" and ask the Trust to seek talks with John Fenty into writing off his loans - he always says he has the best interests of the club at heart - and to then look at other models of fan owned clubs and see what would best fit us? If John were to agree to the request the Trust could always make him honourary club president, and still let him have a non executive post on the board in case they think the vast experience he's built up at his time at BP would come in handy? This proposal isn't a witch hunt, it's a plea to address the issue of ownership not just now, but into the future as well.

We need to move on and I believe the current model of stewardship at the club to be outdated and in need of updating to meet the requirements of the 21st century. Anyone else?

Quoted from Ipswin

Fenty's only error was appointing Slade again.
Everything since then is down to Slade He has been allowed to sign players (on frees I accept but wages have to be paid) but has brought in sh!t, his tactics are awful to say the least and at best outdated. But then you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear and I doubt the current bunch could follow any plan other than hoofball anyway.
Pay peanuts get monkeys especially with a chimp in charge

Out of interest Swin which games have you been to this season?

End of next season.

Now let's get on with supporting our team!!!

We've signed too many players to change again any time soon unless we're in deep trouble for me. We're probably just as likely to get relegated if we keep hiring and firing and getting a new squad every year. That was the start of the decline before.

Just watched the extended highlights, apart from the silly defensive mistakes and poor finishing we looked as good as them.
Note, I did not go to the game, a surprise win tomorrow night and all's well again in the madhouse.

Quoted from Garth

Just watched the extended highlights, apart from the silly defensive mistakes and poor finishing we looked as good as them.
Note, I did not go to the game, a surprise win tomorrow night and all's well again in the madhouse.

Give the other side 2 pens and score an own goal and you are going to lose.

I expect a better performance tomorrow Garth.

Quoted from grimsby pete

Give the other side 2 pens and score an own goal and you are going to lose.

I expect a better performance tomorrow Garth.

Granted Pete, just saying from what little I saw on the extended highlights we were mugs and on the day gifted them the result, surely has to be Collins in tomorrow for Clarke and Matt to start with Jones up top

Quoted from Cloudy

Out of interest Swin which games have you been to this season?

Non at all mate and hopefully I won't weaken in that resolve.

I would judge him mid way through next season not this one with all the players on long contracts he inherited.

Besides didnt Exeter have a lot worse start than us last year but they came good.?

Think we have obviously struggled to offload some of the players he didnt want, i would imagine the likes of Summerfield would not have had a contract renewed if it was up.
The money from Bogle isnt in the great scheme of things a large amount and can easily be swallowed up in the running of the club.

Yes its a bit panicked at the minute but then his last stint was pretty poor in the first season and although im not a fan of his style of play he usually puts together a competent side eventually, managers are just not given time to build a team now and sackings a two a penny with current trend. Remember Ferguson was one game away from the sack early in his united tenure but look how that turned out.

Yes its excrement at the moment and i hate it but lets give the chap time to build.

UTM

Quoted from monkeyboy

I would judge him mid way through next season not this one with all the players on long contracts he inherited.

Besides didnt Exeter have a lot worse start than us last year but they came good.?

UTM

Despite the reservations of me and others at the time the club decided to stick with Neil Woods. We didn't come good and we were relegated.

Quoted from BackHeelTony

End of next season.

Now let's get on with supporting our team!!!

Next season? you're going to give him a season in the Conference as well?

He won't go unless we are in the relegation zone and more than 3 points adrift of safety.

If I were to have the say. Give him 2 more months and then it gives the next guy a full month to assess the squad and determine what is/isn't needed before January.

I think whoever the manager is a lot comes down to luck, just think that if Hooper had scored 6 goals by now ( I know it sounds fanciful) and we had only lost 1 game than the majority of us would be quite happy, it's all about results. It really just shows how much we relied upon Bogle last season.

Someone has already mentioned that the team needs time to gel,well I would expect that nearly every team in our league are made up of new players for this season, most players at our level are on 1 year contracts so just about every team is looking to gel.

Quoted from arryarryarry

Despite the reservations of me and others at the time the club decided to stick with Neil Woods. We didn't come good and we were relegated.

Then Fenty stuck with him after we got relegated !!!!!!!!!