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Quoted from Stadium

Exactly.
Really a pathetic unconvincing effort and an embarrassment.
The fans really deserve better than this charade.

Absolutely that. Word for word.

And, I might add, ditto for what happened on the pitch. Little has been learned about playing at home, and specifically playing against Cheltenham by management since last season. Johnson easily out manages again.

I care not about which way the staying/leaving issue goes. All I want is a quick resolution and an end to the contempt being shown towards supporters.

A cr@p day to be a Town fan.

I would be surprised if they both resigned.......and the Shrewsbury appointed someone else lol

Doig had about as much enthusiasm in his interview as the players did in today's game. If you are going Paul, get on with it. If not, why didn't you do the interview and tell us either way. Shrews media still saying that PH is the front runner and preferred option but all at GTFC denying any knowledge. Summat don't add up.

Somebody is telling us porkies.

We will find out in the end so come clean now,

OR

Get the wrath of the fans forever !!

I have the feeling that PH wants to go but Fenty is blocking it, hence the current situation.

Statement:

Grimsby Town Football Club will, by 8pm tonight, release an offical statement concerning Paul Hurst and officially acknoleage Shrewsbury's statement that they have made an approach and provide us if it is true or not.

Grimsby Town FC will then, if they have made an approach, inform us what the situation is and where we are and what is going on, giving as much details as legally possible. If there is no official response from Grimsby Town Football Club by 8pm tonight, as a season ticket holder who'll go to all but 1 of the remaining matches I will NOT purchase any further programmes, beer, food or snacks at any home game this season. Nor will I buy my traditional xmas present to myself of a Football shirt from the club this December.

Quoted from Meza

He either comes out and says ive had a great journey with GTFC.....but after 6 years time for me for a new challenge.

Or i am not interested in the Shrewsbury.

Someone somewhere tell us whats going on as this is clearly having an impact with the players.

Hurst approached Fenty and informed him that he had been made an offer. He said that it was purely financial,he had a family to feed,and his wife was giving him excrement having to survive on the minimum wage. Fenty was sympathetic and offered him an extra 20p an hour. This was duly accepted, but, and a big but,after todays match Fenty rushed round to the Main stand and cancelled the offer. The last I heard was Fenty shouting out that he could fuick off to Shrewsbury as soon as he wanted. Timbuktoo for all he cared--the sooner the better

I assume PH has been approached by Shrewsbury (illegally) and now they are all backtracking until they make an official approach and offer GTFC compensation. I would take it and shake PHs hand, wishing him the best of luck. I would then be on the phone to managersrus.com for a replacement.

I'll tell you what adds up, we played like a team of strangers losing our 4th home match this season, and our manager refuses to answer the question, is he going or staying, or come out and give his thoughts on the defeat.
The whole affair and the handling of it is tin pot,
FFS go or stay just do one or the other, not to join JT show's a lack of moral fiber IMO

Quoted from bluerose13x

Statement:

Grimsby Town Football Club will, by 8pm tonight, release an offical statement concerning Paul Hurst and officially acknoleage Shrewsbury's statement that they have made an approach and provide us if it is ture or not.

Grimsby Town FC will then, if they have made an approach, inform us what the situation isand where we are and whats going on, giving as much details as legally possible. If there is no officail response from Grimsby Town Football Club by 8pm tonight, as a season ticket holder who'll go to all but 1 of the remaining matches I will NOT purchase any further programmes, beer, food or snacks at any home game this season. Nor will I buy my traditional xmas present to myself of a Football shirt from the club the December.

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Sort your spelling out first.

Quoted from bluerose13x

Statement:

Grimsby Town Football Club will, by 8pm tonight, release an offical statement concerning Paul Hurst and officially acknoleage Shrewsbury's statement that they have made an approach and provide us if it is ture or not.

Grimsby Town FC will then, if they have made an approach, inform us what the situation isand where we are and whats going on, giving as much details as legally possible. If there is no officail response from Grimsby Town Football Club by 8pm tonight, as a season ticket holder who'll go to all but 1 of the remaining matches I will NOT purchase any further programmes, beer, food or snacks at any home game this season. Nor will I buy my traditional xmas present to myself of a Football shirt from the club the December.

Looks like they've given up on spelling as well!

Fenty probably didn't realise they were paying Hurst and asked him to do the job for nothing

Quoted from realist

I have the feeling that PH wants to go but Fenty is blocking it, hence the current situation.

^^^This^^^

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

He said he didn't know anything not a thing , he said he got his info from social media and was non the wiser lol have to say what a drab flipping interview that was no enthusiasm no feck all. The Shrewsbury guy came on and said his dealings with who ever have been dragging on and he's not known anything like it before but refused names

If those aren't the words of a man who's had the pleasure of dealing with our non-chairman then I don't know what is.

Then the next logical steps is to resign and Shrewsbury pay the compo

Quoted from Tommy

If those aren't the words of a man who's had the pleasure of dealing with our non-chairman then I don't know what is.

Ha ha

Anybody remember the shambolic court case when ph and rs came in the first case. Hope there won't be a repeat of that.

Haha i can see it now John hiding under his desk.....then the phone is constantly ringing.....John in a trembling voice says leave me alone.....then the door is knocking its PH John you there we need to talk.

Quoted from Tommy

If those aren't the words of a man who's had the pleasure of dealing with our non-chairman then I don't know what is.

This.
It has Fenty all over it.
The situation is a farce.

I tend to agree with Tommy

Quoted from Stadium

This.
It has Fenty all over it.
The situation is a farce.

This. Totally. In spades.

Let him go John - if he wants to leave us for a team at the bottom of their league, that's his call. Plenty of fish in the sea and plenty of fuckedoff Town fans at your prevarication.

Its an insult to the fans

All this over a manager who quite frankly ain't that good anyway. If Fenty's playing funny b uggers over PH he wants his head testing.

Pretty pathetic of Hurst to hide away in his office and let Doig face the music (who gave an appalling post-match interview). If you're going, fine. Respect is a two way thing. Hurst can moan all he wants about fans getting on his back yet he doesn't have the decency to front up given the situation and after such a poor performance.

I have no problem with Hurst leaving. I'll cup my ear on the way out. I do have a problem with the way this is being handled, the time it's taking and the shabby performance and result witnessed today.

Could be a blessing in disguise after the last 3 home games.

I'd love Hursty to stay.... BUT if if he wants to go then go... NOBODY is bigger than this football club.

In retrospect, the "cupping of the ear" thing probably meant he had no intention of staying here long term. I wouldn't be surprised (purely my own surmise) if he had sounded out the other jobs he was strongly linked with (Notts Co and Rotherham). He was probably just waiting for the first league club of a reasonable stature who would take him on.

At Boston he resigned and then joined us the next day. Wouldn't be surprised to see history repeat itself.

Quoted from chaos33

I have no problem with Hurst leaving. I'll cup my ear on the way out. I do have a problem with the way this is being handled, the time it's taking and the shabby performance and result witnessed today.

I've agreed with you earlier today this post is even better cupping hands (lol)(lol)

Quoted from GrimRob

In retrospect, the "cupping of the ear" thing probably meant he had no intention of staying here long term. I wouldn't be surprised (purely my own surmise) if he had sounded out the other jobs he was strongly linked with (Notts Co and Rotherham). He was probably just waiting for the first league club of a reasonable stature who would take him on.

At Boston he resigned and then joined us the next day. Wouldn't be surprised to see history repeat itself.

Completely agree Rob

If he fu(ks off then will be be allowed to criticise him again please?

Maybe Fenty wanted to get rid of Hurst but didn't want to have to pay his contract up, so he contacted Wycherley " Hi Roland mate, you owe me a favour from way back when, now's the time to repay me for that Spanish fish I let you have on the cheap. We've got this manager, Paul somebody who I want out. I wanted to sack him but will he as hell meet me on the stairs. Anyway I've got this plan mate-- you make out he's got the managers job down at yours, he resigns here ,then once that's done you tell him he's taken too long so goodbye. If you do that mate I'll help you out with a new manager, ever heard of a guy called Woods, well !"

Isn't it funny--yesterday we were all praising him and not wanting him to go, now we are all saying fuik off, good riddance, shite manager, coward etc. We are really a shite lot aren't we, me included.

Off the top of my head Hurst is on a 6 month rolling contract.

My very very basic understanding is that if anyone leave a rolling contract to go elsewhere without giving a notice period then they've effectively got to pay up 6 month wages to free themselves up. Or is the employer decieded to get rid without a notice period (gross misconduct excluded) then they would have to pay up 6 months wages.

I wouldn't be surprised if he naffed because of us lot on here.

Quoted from davmariner

Pretty pathetic of Hurst to hide away in his office and let Doig face the music (who gave an appalling post-match interview). If you're going, fine. Respect is a two way thing. Hurst can moan all he wants about fans getting on his back yet he doesn't have the decency to front up given the situation and after such a poor performance.

Hes either a coward or just taking the urine out the fans no other explanation for it.

Quoted from golfer

Isn't it funny--yesterday we were all praising him and not wanting him to go, now we are all saying fuik off, good riddance, shite manager, coward etc. We are really a shite lot aren't we, me included.

No problem with people moving on and he's done a great job for us which has helped his career no end too so both parties benefit. But going through the charade of staying when he obviously doesn't want to.extends his welcome. He has no emotional tie to this football club, we do. Better just go and give us time to begin anew.

Maybe Scott was right regarding the trench thing

Quoted from golfer

Isn't it funny--yesterday we were all praising him and not wanting him to go, now we are all saying fuik off, good riddance, shite manager, coward etc. We are really a shite lot aren't we, me included.

Sorry - time for big men to be big men. He has totally lost any respect I had for him as a man (not a manager) by sending Doig to do the interview. Cowardice is not a great trait.

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Quoted from Nelly GTFC

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Says it all IMO, Feck JT, Feck GTFC

Seems to be a lot of posters getting a bit teenage girlie over this whole thing. Hurst has to look after himself.its a short career and loyalty doesn't pay the bills. Us n him has never been a love affair so let's not get overly emotional about it. I'd prefer him to stay as I think we have a pretty good thing going on at present.however if he's offered a better contract and gets to live in a beautiful part of the world then I don't blame him at all. If he does go then we are a pretty attractive proposition. A non chairman who stands by his manager and funds him as best he can, a decent squad of players, some of the best support in the division, a stable club with the possibility of a new stadium, we've got a lot of positives. And there's a list of decent available coaches and managers to pick from

Quoted from Mariner_09

I wouldn't be surprised if he naffed because of us lot on here.

I know he got us up in the end but ffs how long did it take no other club in the dog and duck would have gave him that long , I'm not a fenty fan but that little intercourse owes fenty big time ... I wanted him to stay as it draws on I'm changing my
Mind

Quoted from Nelly GTFC

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If that does not tell you what he thinks of us,

Nothing will.

Goodbye Paul thanks for the promotion.

See you again next season unless we go up.

Quoted from forza ivano

Seems to be a lot of posters getting a bit teenage girlie over this whole thing. Hurst has to look after himself.its a short career and loyalty doesn't pay the bills. Us n him has never been a love affair so let's not get overly emotional about it. I'd prefer him to stay as I think we have a pretty good thing going on at present.however if he's offered a better contract and gets to live in a beautiful part of the world then I don't blame him at all. If he does go then we are a pretty attractive proposition. A non chairman who stands by his manager and funds him as best he can, a decent squad of players, some of the best support in the division, a stable club with the possibility of a new stadium, we've got a lot of positives. And there's a list of decent available coaches and managers to pick from

I understand all that and won't blame him if he does go. It's all the speculation that's pissing me off. Shrewsbury paper reporting Hurst is the target and preferred option, yet all at GTFC denying any knowledge. Their Chairman saying that his target is currently at another club and it's dragging on. So if it's Hurst (and i stress if) why is no-one saying anything to confirm or deny this? Are the papers in Salop making all this up?

Here's another one for you. Journalist for the Daily Mail; from that it seems adamant an approach been made.

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The fact he didn't do the post match interview, for me, shows hes probably on his way.

Obviously un-willing to answer the direct question from JT.

He must surely know all the speculation - If he wasn't going, he could have simply done the interview and put everything to bed. Instead of ducking and hiding.

I think the writings on the wall, unfortunately.

No official contact, give GTFC and the board members a break. PH deserves the stick he gets if he has been interviewed and is not discussing it, only he can confirm if they have made him an offer, especially if the approach has been via the back door.

Quoted from Tinymariner

No official contact, give GTFC and the board members a break. PH deserves the stick he gets if he has been interviewed and is not discussing it, only he can confirm if they have made him an offer, especially if the approach has been via the back door.

Oi oi

Why are you all adamant Shrewsbury will be relegated? It's only ocotober. He can easily go there and keep them up and is a great stepping stone opportunity for him.Would be stupid not to take the job on that basis without even touching on the extra money aspect

The situation is simple.

If PH has been discussing with Shrews without an unauthorised approach, we should seek full compensation, tell him to p off and charge Shrews with unauthorised approach. PH has no future here.

If there has been a formal approach, JF is lying and should apologise and seek full compensation and tell PH to clear off.

If PH and GTFC have not been involved and PH is not the target, say so and move on.

The whole thing is pathetic and disrespectful to our fans.

I have had enough of the duplicity and wont be paying to watch GTFC until the matter is resolved to my satisfaction.

I do think thats the case that they have spoken to PH agent and Salop have used the media to say they have made an approach but not directly at GTFC and yet wont name any managers on their radar. Then JF issues a statement saying they have had no official approach. Then Doig does the interview and PH is.......well nowhere to be seen followed by the half hearted performance because the players are in limbo....or already know and are gutted.

Its the silence thats doing all the damages. If PH said on a microphone after the game thanks and good luck. It wouldn't bother me as much and he goes with my blessing. But all this silence is turning all the good that he achieved into a joke.

I'm with Forza. Would love him to stay but let's not carry on like it would be the end of the world. Hurst's duty is first and foremost to himself and his family. We're not at the megabucks level of the game.

What sort of tinpot nickname is Salop anyway?

Salop is the noise they make when they have a poo

Lmao

Fvcking ell hursty either step up say you want to stay or get your bags and get off to shrewsbury and see how long you last playing central midfielders out wide down there but one things for sure you and john fenty please dont treat us like idiots.

What is it with media and GTFC that always has to be so painful.

Maybe Hurst avoided the interview because he didn't want to face the awkward questions - I'm sure he didn't do the interview when Notts County were sniffing.

Quoted from gtfc98

What sort of tinpot nickname is Salop anyway?

It's the old name for Shropshire. People of that region are Salopians.

Until the refusal to do an interview I thought it was all shite stirring by radio salop. But now resigned to a serious breakdown between parties and Hurst leaving one way or another. There's no coming back from this. His silence says everything. And that's without cupping my ear.

Shame.

Why do always get taken for mugs when things like this happen ? Absolute joke needs sorting out

I don't pretend to understand the rules about appointing managers but didn't we do a similar thing when we took PH and RS from Boston? None of us have to tell our employers when we go for an interview. I even claimed to be "working at home" on one such occasion if I recall. Clubs receive dozens of applications for manager jobs, a lot of them come from people in work, just like the jobs we all apply for. It would be naive in the extreme to ask permission to speak to all the managers on the long or even shortlist.

I think the problem is that Hurst wants the security of a contract instead of a rolling contract he is on at the moment

Shrewsbury offer him a three year contract it would be enough to tempt him.

My thoughts are that he would stay if we offered him one. Maybe they are negotiating one as we type and once the ink has dried we will get the anoucement.

Didn't someone say theres an announcement at 8pm

If Hurst wants to leave, he should go and we move on.

If he doesn’t want to go I’m sure he would have just said so.

If the board are trying to keep him here, it’s a lost cause as all this silence has fuelled the mistrust and ill feeling that has blighted some of his tenure. Coupled with another inept and lacklustre home performance some will be glad of his departure. The atmosphere has turned toxic and I feel there can only one outcome. Let’s just get it over with. UTMM.

Fully agree with heppy 88
But we must hold out for compensation

Sounds like the Salop chairman is little short of a crook so we should not allow him to get away with unauthorised contact with a GTFC employee

I suppose with the way we pinched Scott & Hurst and the resulting court case, Fenty is going to know the rules like the back of his hand. I would imagine that he is clearly putting a spanner in the works and now Hurst's position at GTFC is now untenable (Fenty word)

Quoted from Nelly GTFC

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Also worth noting that JT mentioned that PH was having a drink with Gary Johnson at the time and declined the interview with a wry smile..

Sounded to me that Doigy was really p1ssed off and not just about the score, he clearly did not want to do the press and I wonder if he was "told" to rather than asked to.

His constant use of the words "we" and "us" where interesting and he would not be drawn on what he new about the PH situation.

Reading between the lines I reckon that both Hurst and Doig have had an offer to go to Shrewsbury one that has come through an unofficlai approach. The reason he said this is that he kept saying the club had not told them anything so I reckon the offer could have been made, they want to go but possibly they are waiting for GTFC to sanction the deal and allow them to leave amicably..................maybe/maybe not but the sooner this is cleared up the better.

Also if PH was not going or there was nothing in it he would have come out and said on the radio........... Based upon today maybe we need some fresh ideas to take what is a squad with mixed ability and experience but real potential to a level it may be capable of. . .

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Maybe Hurst avoided the interview because he didn't want to face the awkward questions - I'm sure he didn't do the interview when Notts County were sniffing.

Talk about sniffing, we have a ready made replacement for PH in Chris Doig who has a much better sniff than PH ever did.

Quoted from golfer

OK. he gets offered the job. What does he do next ? He's a married man so he has to talk it over with his missus.We know she wouldn't come to live in this dump but living in Shrewsbury is a completely different kettle of fish. If she went to live their it would cut out all the travelling for him.so she is involved as well. Maybe it's her he's waiting for. If he made a statement saying he'd been offered the job but was waiting for his wife to decide we'd all tell him to fuik off. If she decided Shrewsbury wasn't for her how could he stay here. Maybe Fenty is trying to protect him so if it fell through he could stay here. Why don't we hang on for a couple of days and give them a chance to get things sorted. Maybe this is why he has kept out of the way so he doesn't have to answer direct questions.Why do we have to know right now. The guy got us promoted for christs sake. Why don't we stop spitting our dummies out and give the bloke and his family a chance to get things sorted. If he decides to go-fair enough but if he stays I for one will be one happy guy.

He should tell his Mrs that she "does not wear the trousers and to get the chips on"! I make these comments completely tongue in cheek of course.

If he does stay then they need to get a new contract sorted asap to put it to bed. Can't be having this excrement everytime a job opens up.

Doig did the interview after the Welling game last season when apparently when he was going to Notts County.

There seem to be a few posts criticising Paul Hurst and John Fenty for not making statements clarifying the situation, and making all sorts of inferences as a result (e.g. that this means Paul Hurst wants to leave, has been in secret negotiations, that the Club's 'no approach received' statement is untrue, that Chris Doig doing the interview means that Hurst is leaving, etc, etc).

The fact is that we don't know! There could be all sorts of explanations - legal, protocol, good employment practice, or simply that there is nothing sufficiently clear to be able to make any statement.

On the evidence we have I don't know how anyone can draw any inferences about the situation or any individual's motives: until anything else develops and becomes public, Paul Hurst continues to be the manager of GTFC and - in my opinion - deserves continued support.

If other things come to light subsequently that justify changing opinions about any individual, then so be it - but for now there just isn't any basis for making any inferences about anyone at GTFC!

Just listened to Doigs interview. Don't buy the whole "I don't know anything".

"Football on 5" have just shown the Shrewsbury match and said talks are ongoing for a new manager, Paul Hurst was the only name mentioned.

I agree DavidB. If it wasnt for forums like the fishy, most of us would be analysing the whole situation to a much lesser degree. Ultimately the fishy is as bad as the media at blowing things out of proportion. Maybe there is something going, maybe there isnt, non of us know, we'll know soon so stop getting all your nickers' in a twist.

Quoted from Mikey_345

Just listened to Doigs interview. Don't buy the whole "I don't know anything".

We're just like mushrooms. Kept in the dark and fed on ..

I think he's probably tried to manage it in a way that meant that if he couldn't do a deal with Shrewsbury that he could just continue with Town. Don't blame him for trying but don't think he's achieved it and it might be best now if he just moves on quickly and we can do the same. I do think it's a shame as I liked the fact that we were stable and he was just steadily improving us. It might end up being a good thing for the club but that'll depend on the job our non-chairman does in replacing him............As a club we really do manage PR badly don' t we?

Honestly dont know how him doing an interview would change anything. If theres nothing in it and hes staying he'd say it. If there is something in the rumours but nothing finalised he'd also have no option but to say staying because what if it didnt end up getting finalised. Whatever he said the rumours would continue so I honestly dont blame him for thinking whats the point in doing the interview.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

I think he's probably tried to manage it in a way that meant that if he couldn't do a deal with Shrewsbury that he could just continue with Town. Don't blame him for trying but don't think he's achieved it and it might be best now if he just moves on quickly and we can do the same. I do think it's a shame as I liked the fact that we were stable and he was just steadily improving us. It might end up being a good thing for the club but that'll depend on the job our non-chairman does in replacing him............As a club we really do manage PR badly don' t we?

Yep. Sounds about right. Thank god for our PR manager...

Throughout this fiasco there's been a little voice in my head (yeah another one) saying "but...Shrewsbury ffs?"

At the moment all we have is the Shrewsbury media stating that Shrewsbury are about to appoint Paul Hurst as their new manager, following a decline from their first chose target and then the media circus gets into full swing.

We know how accurate our own local newspaper and radio station are at reporting these days, reporters sniffing around the internet looking for anything to fuel a story.

Shrewsbury have not said they have spoken to Hurst, but mention its a 3 horse race now and GTFC have confirmed no official approach for Hurst.

We will find out when Shrewsbury finally announce who their new manager is, bet its not Paul.

But I could be wrong

Did Doig really say "there's no one to clarify the situation at the club " ? - Where was he all afternoon then ? Unfortunately that interview was a loyal guy covering for his mate ..... but mugging off the fans at the same time . I think any money that wasn't available for a fitness coach sure needs to be made available for a top PR firm / individual to move us forward in the future and avoid anymore train wrecks . Fox

Can't believe half of you lot went to the game today and no-one overheard PH on the phone to Pickfords or a new conditioning coach. Bloody rubbish!!!

Quoted from chaos33

I have no problem with Hurst leaving. I'll cup my ear on the way out. I do have a problem with the way this is being handled, the time it's taking and the shabby performance and result witnessed today.

That makes at least one other cupping their ear.

He never had me but he lost me when I saw that from the other side of Wembley

Hang on, hang on, hang on. Because this excrement was on radio humberside doesn't mean it was true. What if it is all a load of bollox?

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

I think he's probably tried to manage it in a way that meant that if he couldn't do a deal with Shrewsbury that he could just continue with Town. Don't blame him for trying but don't think he's achieved it and it might be best now if he just moves on quickly and we can do the same. I do think it's a shame as I liked the fact that we were stable and he was just steadily improving us. It might end up being a good thing for the club but that'll depend on the job our non-chairman does in replacing him............As a club we really do manage PR badly don' t we?

If agree with the last half of your post but I think we have to wait to see about the first half.if hurst ends up using the shrews approach as a lever to get the set up as he wants it ( plus presumably a pay rise) then it might be a good result for all concerned. As I said in a previous post I don't ant him to leave but it's a good time to be looking for a new manager if he does depart

Jeese I thought Hurst interview could be drab but that was one of the most depressing interviews I have ever heard.(eek)

Quoted from Mrs Doyle

Jeese I thought Hurst interview could be drab but that was one of the most depressing interviews I have ever heard.(eek)

In keeping with match then !!

Maybe Hurst is in the final 3 for the Shrewsbury job but that's all he does know-so what's he supposed to do-- hand in his resignation. It might not be Town or Fenty who Shrewsbury are referring to when they talk about "crap and awkward negotiations from the other team" Managers apply for loads of jobs but they don't tell the fans everytime--why should they. This is what happens when applications are publicised. Town have done nothing wrong this time- what else could they have done. That's right we can't answer because we don't know the facts. The ones to blame are Shrewsbury. They are under pressure from their own fans and have handled the whole situation badly. Who are the 3 "finalists" have they been named. No. Because shrewsbury maybe haven't come right out and offered the job yet to any of them.Are the other 2 getting stick from their fans? There are several Fishy members who "have been in the game" who know how the system works-what with agents,and the media interfering before they know the facts. We are too many Sherlock Holmes .We may never know the truth but has too much damage been done for things to be the same. Somebody wants to be held responsible but I don' believe it will be anyone at Blundell Park.[ even with their public relations record] Here come a load of red X's again

Should I feel bad that I'm not getting worked up about all this 'will he, won't he' stuff like so many on here?

On balance, I'd prefer Hurst to stay as changing managers midway through the season is never ideal (I argued the same last year as well). However, if he decides to go (assuming he has been offered the job), then as forza notes, we're not in too bad a position to get somebody new in.

As to why a move to Shrewsbury might be an attractive one, if they are offering him an 18 month contract on a bit more money and resources for new signings, it might be a decent career move. The reputation of being able to turn around the fortunes of a struggling club looks good on the CV of a manager - providing he is able achieve it, of course!

For what it's worth, I don't think the uncertainty had much of an impact on yesterday's result. The failings of some of the players which were a problem have already been seen this season so nothing new there. Ultimately, it came down to taking chances. They had one great chance and scored, we had two great chances and Bogle hit the keeper with both of them. A weak referee helped their gamesmanship to restrict us to those two good chances.

I'd imagine it will all come out in the wash during the next few days, but I'm not going to worry too much whichever way it goes.

Quoted from Maringer

Should I feel bad that I'm not getting worked up about all this 'will he, won't he' stuff like so many on here?

On balance, I'd prefer Hurst to stay as changing managers midway through the season is never ideal (I argued the same last year as well). However, if he decides to go (assuming he has been offered the job), then as forza notes, we're not in too bad a position to get somebody new in.

As to why a move to Shrewsbury might be an attractive one, if they are offering him an 18 month contract on a bit more money and resources for new signings, it might be a decent career move. The reputation of being able to turn around the fortunes of a struggling club looks good on the CV of a manager - providing he is able achieve it, of course!

For what it's worth, I don't think the uncertainty had much of an impact on yesterday's result. The failings of some of the players which were a problem have already been seen this season so nothing new there. Ultimately, it came down to taking chances. They had one great chance and scored, we had two great chances and Bogle hit the keeper with both of them. A weak referee helped their gamesmanship to restrict us to those two good chances.

I'd imagine it will all come out in the wash during the next few days, but I'm not going to worry too much whichever way it goes.

I sort of agree - but the uncertainty has to stop as soon as possible. Let's face it, he was in last chance saloon after the Braintree home play-off game and, in many peoples minds, got lucky when Monkhouse was injured. He's made a decent job of putting a new squad together but, again, failed by failing to keep Amond. There are names in the Shrewsbury next manager betting that I would have ahead of Hurst but let's get it sorted quickly.

Quoted from PPMariner

That makes at least one other cupping their ear.

He never had me but he lost me when I saw that from the other side of Wembley

Podge did it when he scored that Peno against Braintree, Bogle does it constantly seems like a sort of "what about that then" gesture suppose it's better than sticking two fingers up. ;D

Personally it does not bother me like to see a bit of passion that's what livens the game up.

Quoted from PPMariner

That makes at least one other cupping their ear.

He never had me but he lost me when I saw that from the other side of Wembley

His performance at Wembley was a disgrace (but of course no one was allowed to criticise him as he had just scraped us to a promotion) far better if he had simply looked smug and self-satisfied at having proved the doubters wrong

Quoted from Mrs Doyle

Podge did it when he scored that Peno against Braintree,
Personally it does not bother me like to see a bit of passion that's what livens the game up.

Podge did it to that little bunch of vociferous Braintree fans who had been making a lot of noise with the 'pub team in Essex' line.

Typical Town fans. It's alright when we give players / managemeant stick but as soon as a little gesture of some sort comes our way it's as if he has committed a crime. With some of the abuse Hurst got last season then he had every right to and he made it clear that the gesture was at the minority. Thank god we didn't listen to the loud minority at points throughout last season otherwise there would have been a good chance that we would have been playing Ferriby instead of Pompey.

I just watched the Doig interview on MP.

Hes lying for sure. Corr i dislike it when people curl their lips like that.

In defence of Doig he was put in an impossible position,

Either Hurst or Fenty or both told him to say nothing,

At one time he said he was only the assistant manager,

That told me he was only obeying instructions,

Well he made a good job of it because that was the most boring post match interview I have heard in my life.

If it became official today that Shrewsbury had appointed Charley Clowe as their manager and Hurst was still our manager would we be GLAD or SAD. If we were in a race we would all be punished-- you get disqualified now the first time you jump the gun.

I'd be sad. There's no way he can carry on here now, we've been spoilt far too much.
Either join Shrewsbury or clear off back to Yorkshire. There's plenty of managers with experience and pass success that would jump at the chance of managing our club.

Hurst is nothing special, any ok manager would of got us promoted in the timeframe he did with the budget we had.

Bye bye

My money is on Darren Way to be Shrewsbury manager, Mr. Hurst to stay here where he is most welcome. My contacts from " A spy in our midst" told me :)

Good shout at 10/1 ;)

It's certainly become a strange situation and for Doig to openly say nobody at the club has spoken to them is bizarre.
Surely somebody on the board should come out and clarify the situation. It's a shame that before we actually know anything a lot of people are turning on Hurst, he may not have done anything wrong and he might not have any interest in going, but if someone was trying to give you another job you would be a fool not to have a chat with them. What we don't know is whether he has had any contact with Shrewsbury.

Interesting comments from Shrewsbury fans on various sites / forums saying the club have no ambition and the chairman is tight ....I can see why he's stalled his decision if it is the case

Shrewsbury Chief Executive Brian Caldwell, "It's coming close to the deadline of giving up on the first option."

Shrewsbury Chief Executive Brian Caldwell refused to confirm if Hurst was the man they were after, or who his other two short-listed candidates were. However, he did state that his club were specifically targeting one individual, with the other two on his shortlist being left aside for now. He said though that there was a deadline in terms of their negotiations with their primary target, and if that deadline passed, they would move on to others on the shortlist:

"It's coming close to the deadline of giving up on first option. If we don't get one then we need somebody in. You saw from the performance today and how it panned out and the draining on the players. We're all aware and all as frustrated as the supporters. We totally understand where everyone's coming from. I can't name names or go any further, it wouldn't be fair. You've got to keep your options open. We're looking at a couple of options just now - if one doesn't come off then we go the other way. There'll be no Sunday off or Saturday night either. We're in the situation that we need to get somebody in as quick as possible. It's just over two weeks but it feels like two months and everybody feels the same."

Quoted from Ipswin

His performance at Wembley was a disgrace (but of course no one was allowed to criticise him as he had just scraped us to a promotion) far better if he had simply looked smug and self-satisfied at having proved the doubters wrong

Someone is a little bitter!

I find it hard to believe that there has been so much " jumping to conclusions" and " reading between the lines " on this subject ( although having been a poster for some time on here I shouldn't be surprised).
JF came our with a statement saying that there had been no official approach from Shrewsbury. You either believe him or say he is lying.
Shrewsbury football club have not ( at least to my knowledge ) stated that PH is a potential target to be their manager. They have mentioned that there are three people they have approached.
A story appears in the Shrewsbury area press naming PH but there are no official statements to back this up. The same applies to the story in their local BBC outlet.
It would seem that some on here expect to be privy to and informed of every stage of this situation, probably even wanting hourly updates!
GTFC can do no more than the statement that JF came out with.
As far as Doigy doing the post match interview then that could be for several reasons, none of which really need to be explained to the fans. He may have come across as a bit dull and downbeat, so what. Not everybody is capable of being interviewed in a bright , dynamic manner and in fact some people ( yours truly ) hates being interviewed and put on the spot. He said that all he knew about the situation as regards Shrewsbury was what he picked up from social media and I believe him. It's not as if he would be privy to every conversation that takes place at BP. It's also quite possible that if an illegal approach had been made to PH then PH wouldn't have informed him anyway!

Hursty might be holding out for the england job, he would work wonders with milner out wide.

[quote=166]I find it hard to believe that there has been so much " jumping to conclusions" and " reading between the lines " on this subject ( although having been a poster for some time on here I shouldn't be surprised).
/quote]

Hurst could have just said I am not interested in going to Shrewsbury or words to that effect,

His silence is deafening so people will make their own minds up/

Quoted from rancido

I find it hard to believe that there has been so much " jumping to conclusions" and " reading between the lines " on this subject ( although having been a poster for some time on here I shouldn't be surprised).
JF came our with a statement saying that there had been no official approach from Shrewsbury. You either believe him or say he is lying.
Shrewsbury football club have not ( at least to my knowledge ) stated that PH is a potential target to be their manager. They have mentioned that there are three people they have approached.
A story appears in the Shrewsbury area press naming PH but there are no official statements to back this up. The same applies to the story in their local BBC outlet.
It would seem that some on here expect to be privy to and informed of every stage of this situation, probably even wanting hourly updates!
GTFC can do no more than the statement that JF came out with.
As far as Doigy doing the post match interview then that could be for several reasons, none of which really need to be explained to the fans. He may have come across as a bit dull and downbeat, so what. Not everybody is capable of being interviewed in a bright , dynamic manner and in fact some people ( yours truly ) hates being interviewed and put on the spot. He said that all he knew about the situation as regards Shrewsbury was what he picked up from social media and I believe him. It's not as if he would be privy to every conversation that takes place at BP. It's also quite possible that if an illegal approach had been made to PH then PH wouldn't have informed him anyway!

Exactly what I said earlier, or media speculation without any substance to back-up their claim.

Quoted from jonnyboy82

Hursty might be holding out for the england job, he would work wonders with milner out wide.

Lolololol!
Nice one Johnny!

Quoted from rancido

JF came our with a statement saying that there had been no official approach from Shrewsbury. You either believe him or say he is lying.

Exactly. You either join in the discussion and state that you believe him, and jump to a conclusion, or believe he is telling an un-truth, and jump to the alternative conclusion and discuss your thoughts on a forum. Add in to the mix Chis Doig's ' I'm in the dark' comment and we're left wondering if he also is genuine or spinning another untruth, you can't be too surprised at the fallout all of this has created.

Quoted from Ipswin

His performance at Wembley was a disgrace (but of course no one was allowed to criticise him as he had just scraped us to a promotion) far better if he had simply looked smug and self-satisfied at having proved the doubters wrong

I hope he has developed a thick skin since then as he'll need it. Getting stick from a set of fans when a team is vying for promotion is one thing but when you take over a team 6 points off safety and don't have instant success "we're fcukin spoilt" chants would be mild by comparison.

If he goes I hope he does well and wish him all the best if he stays he needs to sort out our selection and shape now!

Well I have deliberately kept out of this thread but I thought I would throw in my opinion.

Well obviously I was very much Hurst out much of last season, but he proved me wrong and I had to eat humble pie.

When Hurst came originally with Scott the club was in a right state but he has stabilized us and eventually got us promoted and by getting promoted he earned the right to be given a chance in league 2 with us and so far I think he's done alright, but I still have a question mark about if he has what it takes to take us to that next level, I think not, so if he should leave he'll leave with my thanks and I hope we can appoint somebody better who can take us to the next level, but also what we have to remember we could also appoint worse

His first choice is Rotherham,he is waiting to be ruled out of that,before giving decision re Shrewsbury where he is first choice.

Message from Paul " Don't you think it's a big decision my wife and I have to take so why don't you all [ Golfer excluded } FUIK OFF and let us eat our Sunday Dinner in peace. I'll see you all at our place next year "

I suspect his master plan is Rotherham and on to Wednesday and get them promoted to the Prem.

Quoted from friskneymariner

His first choice is Rotherham,he is waiting to be ruled out of that,before giving decision re Shrewsbury where he is first choice.

Although I'm as in the dark as anyone, I can tell you this is categorically wrong. They appointed Jackett on Friday.

Anyone else notice the handshake and whisper in Hurst's ear at the end from their captain Downes???

Anything in that or am I just reading between the lines that aren't even there to read in between

The fact this is being kept so tight suggests to me that not a greay deal is going on, I hope this is true.

Quoted from Mariner_09

The fact this is being kept so tight suggests to me that not a greay deal is going on, I hope this is true.

Yeah no deal in history has ever been done behind closed doors.

All player deals are done behind closed doors and yet it always squeezes out.

Quoted from Ipswin

His performance at Wembley was a disgrace (but of course no one was allowed to criticise him as he had just scraped us to a promotion) far better if he had simply looked smug and self-satisfied at having proved the doubters wrong

So you're allowed to criticise him as much as you want but he's not allowed to have a pop back. Grow a pair. Funnily enough I was too busy enjoying one of my best days as a town fans to worry about whether or not I was allowed to slag off the manager. For the record his performance as our manager at Wembley helped to get us promoted.

Quoted from Mariner Timsky

Anyone else notice the handshake and whisper in Hurst's ear at the end from their captain Downes???

Anything in that or am I just reading between the lines that aren't even there to read in between

Don't you know anything, Didn't you see the sign they made to each other first. They are both in the Royal Antediluvian Order of Buffaloes and they were just passing greetings from their respective Lodges. It was a coincidence that they both belong to the same Lodge as Brian Caldwell whoever he may be

Quoted from rancido

I find it hard to believe that there has been so much " jumping to conclusions" and " reading between the lines " on this subject ( although having been a poster for some time on here I shouldn't be surprised).
JF came our with a statement saying that there had been no official approach from Shrewsbury. You either believe him or say he is lying.
Shrewsbury football club have not ( at least to my knowledge ) stated that PH is a potential target to be their manauger. They have mentioned that there are three people they have approached.
A story appears in the Shrewsbury area press naming PH but there are no official statements to back this up. The same applies to the story in their local BBC outlet.
It would seem that some on here expect to be privy to and informed of every stage of this situation, probably even wanting hourly updates!
GTFC can do no more than the statement that JF came out with.
As far as Doigy doing the post match interview then that could be for several reasons, none of which really need to be explained to the fans. He may have come across as a bit dull and downbeat, so what. Not everybody is capable of being interviewed in a bright , dynamic manner and in fact some people ( yours truly ) hates being interviewed and put on the spot. He said that all he knew about the situation as regards Shrewsbury was what he picked up from social media and I believe him. It's not as if he would be privy to every conversation that takes place at BP. It's also quite possible that if an illegal approach had been made to PH then PH wouldn't have informed him anyway!

Stop making sense as David Byrne would say. People enjoy the opportunity to be offended #pashun!
:)

Quoted from golfer

Don't you know anything, Didn't you see the sign they made to each other first. They are both in the Royal Antediluvian Order of Buffaloes and they were just passing greetings from their respective Lodges. It was a coincidence that they both belong to the same Lodge as Brian Caldwell whoever he may be

Can I have some of what your on please!! 😁

Quoted from Mariner Timsky

Can I have some of what your on please!! 😁

I would think he's on the dole!!

Quoted from Mariner Timsky

Can I have some of what your on please!! 😁

I would think he's on the dole!!

All Doig had to say was "It's not something I can comment on, it's nothing to do with me, I'm only the assistant. It would be inappropriate of me to comment publically on private conversations between myself and Paul Hurst, who is my boss". He doesn't need to lie about it or treat the fans as if we're idiots. If Hurst goes, I hope he does too.

Hi. Shrewsbury fan in peace. Just to say that we are as much in the dark as you are. Unlike some I do not view Grimsby as in some way inferior to us but you have a much more significant history and greater potential. By the same token Shrewsbury are not tinpot. We have a relatively new stadium (although designed by Meccano), are debt free and just invested a big chunk of the £2 million from last season's transfer income in new training facilities. The latter is supposedly one of the reasons why Hurst would want to come to us.

As regards him, I cannot see why he would want to come to us because it is a reasonable assumption that we would by pass each other by next season. Many of our fans have unrealistic ideas as to the sort of person we eventually get. Most are disappointed we didn't get Kenny Jackett...as if.

One other thing, Mickey Mellon went before he was pushed which would definitely have happened..clueless in anything above League 2. He opted for Tranmere (potentially a bigger club) because both he and his assistant were popular as players there. He, himself, never moved his family from Blackpool so closer to his home.

Best of luck this season and I hope we meet each other in League 1 next.

I think we will be meeting each other but it won't be league 1 and if he does go ffs Dont critisise him cos he gets mardy pretty quickly but he's a grafter who gives it 100% and yes he got us promotion even though it took him half a decade. So like most on here not bothered either way just let's get it all sorted 👍

Hurst is the type of manager who will do ok with teams that he builds from scratch. Given that one-year deals are the norm in the Conference, he was able to chop and change regularly. I'm doubtful that he'll be able to come in and get the best out of your team this season. When Hurst first joined us, our 30 goal striker Alan Connell struggled. Hurst is quite a stubborn manager that sticks rigidly to his own fairly basic tactics and tends to put square pegs in round holes. If you're hoping for a manager that will come into your club and develop a system that gets the best out of your existing players, Hurst isn't the man I'm afraid.

Quoted from Teesknees

I would think he's on the dole!!

Actually you smart arses I am a football adviser . I have had links to numerous famous faces who have all done well out of my advice. It was me who advised Gary to be the face of Rileys Crisps, it was me who told Alex to join Man. City and I who instructed David Beckham to marry Baby Spice. The list is endless--I told the Wally to use the Brolly, I told Almond to join Barrow and I told Hurst to sign a left winger who could head a ball. Actually I make a lot of money out of my chosen career. Not everybody has the gift that I was born with but I will give you advice for nothing--just ask :)

Looking at it logically - I'm not surprised that a representative of the management team confirms 'no contact made' - from Shrewsbury?.

We've lost at home to Leyton Orient, Hartlepool, Cheltenham and Crewe (none of whom are 'great shakes' in this division so far).

Not sure what I want to happen at this point - (apart from winning a few more home games).

If he goes I bet he is not at Shrewsbury in 5 years time.

Quoted from grimsby pete

If he goes I bet he is not at Shrewsbury in 5 years time.

You could say that about 95% of managerial appointments though.

Quoted from mariner91

You could say that about 95% of managerial appointments though.

Agree but that's why if you are in a secure job you stay in it,

Being out of work loses you the extra you might have made,

Plus if they get relegated and that's a good possibility he will be on the scrapheap as a failure,

BUT

If that's his choice then thats his choice.

Grimsby Pete - I'm unconvinced the Grimsby Town manager job is secure. You'd think it would be from previous seasons and Town have been climbing - 'albeit slowly' but the current league position could be a 'mirage' - optimistically I predicted an 8th position finish at the start of the season (which is where town are now). But it looks like there is not enough in the team and we will have to wait while January 2017 to add the strengths required to the team to possibly compete for a play - off place (whichever manager is in place).
Personally, I have patience about this.

Quoted from grimsby pete

Agree but that's why if you are in a secure job you stay in it,

Being out of work loses you the extra you might have made,

Plus if they get relegated and that's a good possibility he will be on the scrapheap as a failure,

BUT

If that's his choice then thats his choice.

Is any job in football management (outside of Fergie/Wenger) secure? :-/

Quoted from barralad

Is any job in football management (outside of Fergie/Wenger) secure? :-/

Would you say 'Wenger' is secure. ??

Or is this another case of you being 'in the know' but not prepared to share it with the rest of us ?😉

ALL BUT CONFIRMED

training has been cancelled tomorrow

Quoted from Rhys_Mariners

ALL BUT CONFIRMED

training has been cancelled tomorrow

Hp ?

Can't see why they'd cancel training if Hurst is going. It's fairly straightforward for Fenty to ask Diz, Davies and Danny Collins to take training if Hurst is going.

Quoted from davmariner

Can't see why they'd cancel training if Hurst is going. It's fairly straightforward for Fenty to ask Diz, Davies and Danny Collins to take training if Hurst is going.

Or Doig or Dave Moore !!

I guess you're right i just heard from a friend who is related to one of the younger players

Ah well at least bolly and browne can get a game in their own positions and im not gonna be choking on my dry as fvck hot dog seeing that fvcking infuriating chestnut hurst mode centre mid playing out wide team sheet on a saturday anymore , exciting times ahead.

In all fairness im not absolutely gutted if you have gone but thanks for what you have done and good luck but try and connect with the shrewsbury fans as you never really did here , im sure steve evans wont have no trouble on that side ;D