Purpose of The Fishy

Quoted from Southwark Mariner

"My Name is Ioannes Sheltonius Fentii, Non-Chairman to a League Two Club, Consentis for Humberstonia and Novus Walthum, Loyal servant to the true Emperor, Ioannes Antonius Harveii. Founder of Quinque Stella Pisces, Director (resigned) of ToppusConnus Constructus, And I will have my new stadium, in this league or the next".

Quoted from mike_d

Why thank you.



OK - quoting from the Wikipedia history, which I would not recommend to anybody writing a reasonable article, but in this case is a reasonable precis of the events:

In 2004, a Creditors Voluntary Arrangement (CVA) was put in place to reduce the club's debts. Through the club's "Red or Dead" scheme, hundreds of fans pledged at least £500 each to fund the CVA repayments, but the FA Cup proved to be the income boost the Grecians had needed, as City was drawn Manchester United away in the third round of the FA Cup. City drew 0–0 at Old Trafford in January 2005,[26] gaining £653,511 as City's share of receipts from the 67511 attendance. Further income from a televised replay—won 2–0 by United[27]—coupled with ongoing fund-raising and unpaid work from the club's supporters helped the club to repay its debts, and the CVA was cleared in December 2005.[28]

If that's not changing their fortunes, I'm not sure what is.



It's very easy to judge people without knowing them personally; you're judging me in a way. I've chatted with John on the train a couple of times, but make no claim to know him. Do you honestly say you've never made judgements about someone without knowing them? Isn't that the entire nature of people's perceptions, prejudices and opinions?
Having read the thread and previous comments, I'm referring to the differing opinions offered here, and the fact that people are discussing personal attacks about John Fenty.



I know, but who hasn't thought about what they'd do with such a win? And yes, given the fact that the model for fan ownership of clubs in the Bundesliga is being put forward as a laudable approach, then either the Trust (and don't forget to read my post this time)  other newly created fans body  with no comment on their professional capabilities or status (it doesn't have to be enthusiastic amateurs) might be a viable recipient of the money.



I agree -the ability to put the money in with no effect on my own personal status would be a lovely and enviable position to be in. That makes what John Fenty has done all the more admirable. And yes, I can understand him wanting a little kudos for doing so (think Mazlow's hierachical needs and look at the top of the pyramid to see it's perfectly understandable), but for me in that situation I think being able occasionally to go into the club would be enough. After all, with the rest of the millions to spend on things I love to do more, I'd not want the day to day running of a club to deal with.



Not sure which axe I was grinning at - I was postulating a hypothesis and even said "what if"s often can change things remarkably. I also left the area, go back sometimes. I appreciate being able to converse, sometimes eloquently, sometimes not, with others on this board who share a passion for something in common. Not sure what relevance that has on my post, but thanks for your opinions in return. That also defines this board, and hopefully this thread.



I felt similar then - there's not a great amount in my post which would be different, including the (un)likelihood of my winning the EuroMillions and my belief that John Fenty has acted in what he felt was best. I have to say that sticking my head back behind the castle parapets is more likely now, but again, being able to espouce a differing opinion is again a wonderful thing to do every now and again. All with no personal attacks and hopefully the chance at some point to continue the conversation over a beer or two.

I hope this clarified my opinons further, and look forward to the continuing debate.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Yep, I read that. Wealth doesn't buy happiness.

Quoted from 1mickylyons

I never saw the thread but it sounds out of order? The thing is with the Fenty`s like most families blood is thicker than water so when John comes under attack it`s only natural his family feel the need to defend him no matter the circumstances. I witnessed first hand when the Parker shares got handed over by the Trust how the Fenty`s closed ranks in a manner to get the job done it wasn`t pretty but damned effective anyone says this never happened is a liar.

Quoted from sonik

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My brother John has just asked me if I or any of my other brothers had any involvement in what you are implying regarding the above. Please lets make it clear that none of us were present at any of the meetings that took place and what was ultimately decided between the Chief Executive and the Trust board. How did you witness this?  I can assure you I'm not lying either!

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

It is not bickering, its discussion about the Mariners and all aspects of the club.

Now we are back in the league, we need to discuss the future, and the man who has a stranglehold (for good or bad) on the club is an integral part of that.

What is the point of a forum if everybody just accepts our lot? There was too much of that which led to our relegation out of the football league altogether. You have to go forward in football; there is no status quo and you are either a club moving forwards or sliding down. I think Mr. Fenty did well in appointing Slade, but the club as a whole needs to be invigorated. I keep mentioning the new stadium and that being the catalyst for a better future but what is the latest news on it?

I also know that anything I write won't have effect whatsoever on the clubs fortunes, and I completely separate what I might write here and my support for the club in general and particularly on match days. I suppose it is like a marriage - you have many ups and downs and get fed up from time to time and have a heated debate but you still love it all

Quoted from Civvy at last

Are you saying that there was no pressure from your brother to obtain the shares from the trust ???

I have deliberately stayed off this thread because quite frankly it's getting boring and going round in circles. If you want to ask questions etc on Johns behalf that's fine.  But be prepared to answer questions on Johns behalf as well.

Quoted from sonik

Yes.

Quoted from Civvy at last

In which case there is no point in continuing any kind of conversation with you or members of your family.
I have voted with my feet already this season and will be doing so again on Tuesday.  Your answer shows me the disdain that you show to the fans.  We are not stupid. Even if you and John may think so.