WTF is going on in this country?  A perfectly good area ruined by drugs, crime, prostitution and violence.  People that can barely speak English with no intention of working and contributing.

If we are ever going to help immigrants, we need to educate and integrate into society.  Sticking them near the Ermine estate isn’t the answer.

Some fantastic reactions from the locals on Look North this evening..

Saying that the site isn't fit for habitation, no facilities or local amenities , impact on emergency services etc....then in the next breath saying they should house veterans in there 😂

When they were discussing the subject of not fit for habitation, did they make it clear whether they were talking about the VErmine estate or RAF Scampton

Quoted from moosey_club

Some fantastic reactions from the locals on Look North this evening..

Saying that the site isn't fit for habitation, no facilities or local amenities , impact on emergency services etc....then in the next breath saying they should house veterans in there 😂

Good to see the state of service accomodation finally getting airtime in the media.

Quoted from LH

Good to see the state of service accomodation finally getting airtime in the media.

Married quarters and indeed barrack accommodation has suffered a complete lack of investment dating back to the 70’s.  I lived at Scampton in the late 80’s and the majority of the married quarters were condemned.  A few years later at Waddington a comprehensive refurb comprised new windows and a lick of magnolia.  Same old parkray fires and 30 year old radiators with 20 layers of paint keeping the heat in.

Had the MoD invested in property it would have been worth something today, they didn’t and it isn’t hence developers weren’t interested in Scampton.  That’s an aside from the disgraceful accommodation that our service folk are expected to live in.

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WTF is going on in this country?  A perfectly good area ruined by drugs, crime, prostitution and violence.  People that can barely speak English with no intention of working and contributing.

If we are ever going to help immigrants, we need to educate and integrate into society.  Sticking them near the Ermine estate isn’t the answer.

I’ll make my next joke a little easier to understand so that the Guardian readers can spot the difference between humour and discrimination against immigrants.  The joke was obviously at the expense of the Ermine Estate inhabitants, read it again and see if you get it.

Quoted from TheFryingSquad

Married quarters and indeed barrack accommodation has suffered a complete lack of investment dating back to the 70’s.  I lived at Scampton in the late 80’s and the majority of the married quarters were condemned.  A few years later at Waddington a comprehensive refurb comprised new windows and a lick of magnolia.  Same old parkray fires and 30 year old radiators with 20 layers of paint keeping the heat in.

Had the MoD invested in property it would have been worth something today, they didn’t and it isn’t hence developers weren’t interested in Scampton.  That’s an aside from the disgraceful accommodation that our service folk are expected to live in.

The blocks and quarters would never have been worth anything to anyone other than the forces singlies and families who lived in them. They were built cheap and largely without thought in the first place.

My two rooms at Marham had both been condemed prior to my occupation and one of them was only circa 20yrs old when I’d moved into it!

Quoted from TheFryingSquad

I’ll make my next joke a little easier to understand so that the Guardian readers can spot the difference between humour and discrimination against immigrants.  The joke was obviously at the expense of the Ermine Estate inhabitants, read it again and see if you get it.

Do we have to?

It wasn't funny the first time.

I understood it was a joke on second reading, just didn't think it was that amusing. The thing about the Ermine Estate would suggest that the OP is from the Lincoln area as most Town fans would never have heard of it.

I'm one of those lefties that doesn't read the Guardian. The Press is dead or it bloody well will be come the glorious revolution.

Quoted from BlackandWhiteBarmy2

I understood it was a joke on second reading, just didn't think it was that amusing. The thing about the Ermine Estate would suggest that the OP is from the Lincoln area as most Town fans would never have heard of it.

I'm one of those lefties that doesn't read the Guardian. The Press is dead or it bloody well will be come the glorious revolution.

I’ve been doing some work on the Ermine estate and can assure you that, just like every other council estate in every other town, there are some shithouses but there are also some lovely people.

I've previously lived on the Ermine (east, the good part) and the poor attempt at a joke actually shows what's wrong with the whole situation.

Talk about heritage and the £300m project at risk all you want, the real issue here is that people who live in the shadow of that base can't get adequate healthcare etc and the most under-funded police force in the country serves them, every time they ask for help they are told there's no money.......then magically 1500 asylumigrants are going to be plonked there against the wishes of both locals and those being plonked, and magically  ' a comprehensive support package will be put in place' for them. Thus proving money was available all along and that the government just couldn't give a flying fcuk about the people of Lincoln and surrounding villages.

When impressionable people see this dual status, the less desirable right leaning elements will have a field day recruiting from the area.  Skegness has 5 hotels housing them currently and there are hundreds of videos from such groups filmed there about it online. 1500-2000 in one place will be like a magnet for trouble from all sides.

The Skegness thing just proved the weird levels of bigotry that exists in Lincolnshire.

Ironically, one of the biggest moaners about the housing asylum seekers in her hotel initially wanted to house them until she realised that the money wasn’t as great as first thought, and the likelihood of the Home Office paying on time is highly unlikely.

It’s just another example of the ineptitude of the ruling party.

The interview on Look North last night with the hotel manager was classic LN. He said that the asylum seekers behind his hotel would make noise until 0100 but that it was no different to the “drunks” on the front street.The Skegness tourist board must have been sat with their heads in their hands watching it.

The voxpops and emailed in comments on Look North are proper warped in anything like this, any story from other cultures, green energy, LGBTQ+ etc etc. I know they’ve got to be balanced but they don’t filter any of it out so you get mild support opposed with bigoted outrage.

I've heard the hotel in town, St James is housed to immigrants too?

Anyone know if this is true? I'm due to be staying there next weekend when I'm down for my little en's birthday.

Last thing I need is to be staying somewhere that's got issues written all over it.

Quoted from AndyDarloFC

I've heard the hotel in town, St James is housed to immigrants too?

Anyone know if this is true? I'm due to be staying there next weekend when I'm down for my little en's birthday.

Last thing I need is to be staying somewhere that's got issues written all over it.

The last thing I heard was it's back as a hotel and never took in any immigrants. Give them a call.

Quoted from AndyDarloFC

I've heard the hotel in town, St James is housed to immigrants too?

Anyone know if this is true? I'm due to be staying there next weekend when I'm down for my little en's birthday.

Last thing I need is to be staying somewhere that's got issues written all over it.

Immigrants would probably improve it to be honest.

Not the best of places.

It's (The Ermine) got a Waitrose on its border.

Not sure it's exactly the heart and origin of all deprivation!

The Ermine and the St Giles aren’t anywhere near as bad as they make out. I used to teach kids from there and they’d always try and make sound like they lived in Compton.

There are worse parts of Lincoln over towards Hykeham and then random pockets. Although, don’t forget, when they were boring us during that time they were desperate to create a rivalry they’d let us know there isn’t any excrement places apparently…

All the protests are either scared little racists or not in my back yard types….

Quoted from diehardmariner

It's (The Ermine) got a Waitrose on its border.

Not sure it's exactly the heart and origin of all deprivation!

Welton and Dunholme are only a couple of miles away, and the Bailgate is 3 minutes by car, that's why Waitrose is there mate

Yeah, that's what I mean. The Ermine (St. Giles too) is surrounded by a fair amount of affluence.  You can throw Nettleham into the mix too.

It's like anywhere, there's good and bad and they're often not that far apart from each other.  The good often isn't as good as it likes to think and the bad is rarely as bad as everyone else thinks.

Both the aforementioned estates are very close to the Cathedral/Bail area of Lincoln which is very much the crown in the jewel.