Glennon today was the perfect opportunity to stand up take a pen and literally just smash the ball down the middle of the goal. The goalkeeper has the dive. I understand in a penalty shootout why players would go either side but in a match in League 2 at 2-2 place that ball and just smash it down the keepers throat. Our record of pens is absolutely atrocious.

Not sure on your logic regarding differences between a game and a shootout? If you go to the corner its got to be at least in the corner and not at a saveable height. Glennons was neither. We’ve had 2 this season and both have been very poor.
But keeper dives the other way and it doesnt matter does it. Is what it is

Quoted from Hagrid

Not sure on your logic regarding differences between a game and a shootout? If you go to the corner its got to be at least in the corner and not at a saveable height. Glennons was neither. We’ve had 2 this season and both have been very poor.
But keeper dives the other way and it doesnt matter does it. Is what it is

Sorry maybe I should have expanded.. in a shoot out the keeper is facing 4/5 pens minimum there’s only 3 directions you can go so if a keeper stays down the middle for one of them odds are he could get it right. How often in a league match in any division do you see a keeper save a pen that’s been hit down the middle? Not very often unless he saves it with his trailing leg. All I’m saying is in that situation get the ball and just smash it. If the ball hits the top 1/3 of the net no whatever where it is then it’s going in.

He missed, it happens

Quoted from Dave Gilberts Left Peg

He missed, it happens

I understand that and it might sound like I’m blaming Glennon but I’m not because he had a great game. I just feel in that situation you just smash the ball down the middle especially after the delay taking it. I called it as soon as we were given the pen. It’s a shame Tails wasn’t bought on 5 mins before.

I thought from his body shape, he was going to whip it the other way and fool the keeper, but maybe it was a game of chicken and he thought that the keeper would think the same, so went the way he did in a double bluff, if that makes sense.

Quoted from ginnywings

I thought from his body shape, he was going to whip it the other way and fool the keeper, but maybe it was a game of chicken and he thought that the keeper would think the same, so went the way he did in a double bluff, if that makes sense.

Proves the point really don’t it mate, smash the ball down the middle forget about the bluffing. I’m not asking anyone to hit the roof of the net, Harry Kane tried that in the World Cup and ballsed up. Hit the middle of the goal out the reach of the keepers legs. You don’t need to be a professional footballer to do that. Don’t get me wrong I’m no Pep/Klopp/Sir Alex but I don’t understand why players aren’t encouraged to do that more because it’s gotta be harder to hit the corner of the net than the middle.

Quoted from Dave Gilberts Left Peg

He missed, it happens

Certainly does when we take one.

Glenno had the stones to step up that’s all that matters apart from not changing your mind and a clean contact, joking aside we’re probably not that good at them as we don’t get many.

The missed penalty did not prevent the win it was the 2 relatively poor pieces of defending that gave them opportunity.

I wonder if he was always the designated taker, or if it was a decision made in the moment.

When it comes to penalties at any stage of a match, you have to be prepared. That's half the battle won.

Sounded to me, via radio commentary, that the players didn't really know who had the authority to decide who the taker should be.

Clearly Glennon fancied it and it takes guts to step up, but he scored at Northampton and he's a set piece taker, so from that point of view it made sense.

It seems uncharacteristic of a Hurst side to be unprepared for a penalty. You'd think he'd have that locked down before the match even starts.

One of the best penalty takers of all time was West Ham's Ray Stewart, a full back, so maybe there is hope for Glennon in the rest of his career.

Quoted from RichMariner

I wonder if he was always the designated taker, or if it was a decision made in the moment.

When it comes to penalties at any stage of a match, you have to be prepared. That's half the battle won.

Sounded to me, via radio commentary, that the players didn't really know who had the authority to decide who the taker should be.

Clearly Glennon fancied it and it takes guts to step up, but he scored at Northampton and he's a set piece taker, so from that point of view it made sense.

It seems uncharacteristic of a Hurst side to be unprepared for a penalty. You'd think he'd have that locked down before the match even starts.

I'd be very surprised if it wasn't clear to everyone in the Town side that Glennon was taking it. Its a common tactic these days for teams to have other players take the ball first in order to take the gamesmanship attempts to unsettle the taker away from the guy who's actually going to take it.

Seen quite a few teams do that in the last year or so.

Quoted from Wiley2405

Glennon today was the perfect opportunity to stand up take a pen and literally just smash the ball down the middle of the goal. The goalkeeper has the dive. I understand in a penalty shootout why players would go either side but in a match in League 2 at 2-2 place that ball and just smash it down the keepers throat. Our record of pens is absolutely atrocious.

Its easy to say he shouldve hit it down the middle now we know the keeper dived to his right, but if Glennon had smashed it down the middle and the keeper stood still and saved it, he'd be slated for hitting it down the middle.

Poor penalty as it was almost relying on the keeper going the other way. Got to assume the keeper is going to guess right and make it un-save-able if he does. That said, people miss penalties all the time so won't lose any sleep over it.

The dreaded  "P - word" listening to Radio Humberside  i got the impression  we were not  confident who was going  to take it, as the ball was passed between  3 players .
Again its who has the "balls" to take it / Confidence to do so under pressure  etc.
So we got a miss  dare i say  mention a certain national team  when it comes Penalties..Leave it there
As for Grimsby  well we need to have a couple of confident  kickers willing to step up to the plate, on the pitch , down to PH to look at for future .
At the end the day  we all still follow GTFC !!
UTM
See you at Southampton.

Quoted from Tommy

Its easy to say he shouldve hit it down the middle now we know the keeper dived to his right, but if Glennon had smashed it down the middle and the keeper stood still and saved it, he'd be slated for hitting it down the middle.

Poor penalty as it was almost relying on the keeper going the other way. Got to assume the keeper is going to guess right and make it un-save-able if he does. That said, people miss penalties all the time so won't lose any sleep over it.

Absolutely not, when’s the last time you saw a keeper stand down the middle and save a pen? The way that game was going at 2-2 against top of the league I don’t think you have to try be clever you stand up and smash that ball on target.

It took an age for the penalty to happen because of all the players standing on the penalty spot complaining, trying to scuff the ground and then the bookings that needed to happen. I'm sure all of that takes focus off the taker as everything has to be resolved before they can take the kick. Not that it means the taker will definitely miss, some players are able to phase out all the shithousery and stay in the zone but some others will get taken out the right mental space by the delaying and trying to rile up players, damage the pitch, etc.

In the end somebody had to take the penalty and players miss them all the time, even the best players in the world miss them. I don't think anybody in the team currently specialises in pennos so we make do with who we have on the pitch.

I understand the logic of going down the middle. If you hit it hard enough, you should get a rebound if you miss. That said, one of the best penalty takers I've seen in recent years is Harry Maguire who absolutely blasts it in the top corner.

It was clear immediately that Glennon was taking it and everyone knew that. Not sure what game the commentators were watching.

Quoted from aldi_01

It was clear immediately that Glennon was taking it and everyone knew that. Not sure what game the commentators were watching.

Well I thought holohan was taking it at first, but maybe that’s my eyesight. I also thought Mcatee scored two today, so I definitely need to go to bloody specsavers!!

I do admit though, I think holohan should try the next one. I just remember that goal at chesterfield and think he has the best strike of a ball in the squad.

Failing that, Hunt. Played great today.

Quoted from Tommy

I'd be very surprised if it wasn't clear to everyone in the Town side that Glennon was taking it. Its a common tactic these days for teams to have other players take the ball first in order to take the gamesmanship attempts to unsettle the taker away from the guy who's actually going to take it.

Seen quite a few teams do that in the last year or so.

It could've been that — part of a tactic — and I wasn't there, so happy to take other people's views over mine.

But from the way Tondeur and Crofty covered the moment, it sounded like McAtee took the ball as soon as the pen was given, then (in their words) Holohan took it off him and looked to be in charge, before Glennon took the ball.

As soon as this happened, both JT and Crofty didn't think it would end well, and they were right.

No chance it was a tactic to argue over a penalty taker...there should be absolutely no doubt or discussion on the day...you have a nominated taker and a deputy in case the nominated has left the field.
Glennons penalty was poor...weak..mid height and close to the keeper. As soon as I saw the 3 man scrum over the ball I knew it wasn't going in.

That would likely have bagged the points so it needs reviewing at Cheapside and putting right.

Scunthorpe’s long-serving fullback Jack Brownsword was an excellent penalty taker.  He played mainly in the 1960s.  In those days fullbacks just defended.  He scored 50 odd goals.  All of them penalties bar one.  

I’m surprised about the scrummage for the ball when we got the pen - surely we’d been practising them for the Luton replay and had established our best taker?

Graham Alexander was pretty good, so was Phil Neal and Stuart Pearce all full backs. He missed it’s annoying but as others have said, it happens. Keeper guessed right give him credit even though not the greatest strike from Glennon.

Jonny Scott hardly ever missed for us and he put the ball in the same place nearly every time halfway up and near the post to keepers right.

Just as well we won our 3 playoff matches in extra time.  Therefore avoided the lottery of penalties.  

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

Just as well we won our 3 playoff matches in extra time.  Therefore avoided the lottery of penalties.  

Aye
It wouldn't be a lottery - we'd have definitely lost!

Quoted from toontown

Aye
It wouldn't be a lottery - we'd have definitely lost!

I’m not so sure. If there is indeed a God, he had us on his Pools coupon throughout that play-off run. We were simply destined to win, whatever happened.

Quoted from Tommy

Its easy to say he shouldve hit it down the middle now we know the keeper dived to his right, but if Glennon had smashed it down the middle and the keeper stood still and saved it, he'd be slated for hitting it down the middle.

Poor penalty as it was almost relying on the keeper going the other way. Got to assume the keeper is going to guess right and make it un-save-able if he does. That said, people miss penalties all the time so won't lose any sleep over it.

How many keepers do you see stand still when a penalty is taken?

Well we need to win before penalties on Wednesday now don’t we 😉