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I'm going to be out the country between August and December but dependant on the details for the equal payments option I'm hopeful of being able to get one for me and my 10 year old. She's enjoyed coming to games this season (and the pub, quite worryingly) so if we can do it then I'll simply give my ticket to the father-in-law and let him take her until I get back.

Last time I had a season ticket was 2014/15 I think but although I haven't attended all the games it's been an amazing season all told and the highs of the last two weeks make me want to be there all the way next season.

Blimey - they're going like hot cakes!

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1534170169412567043

Does anyone know which seats in the Pontoon have a post-free view of both goals? Never had a season ticket before as an exile but am thinking of getting 4 quickly before I become more rational. Don't want to spend the season craning round a post though but can't just pop in to have a look as I'm 80+ miles away.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

Does anyone know which seats in the Pontoon have a post-free view of both goals? Never had a season ticket before as an exile but am thinking of getting 4 quickly before I become more rational. Don't want to spend the season craning round a post though but can't just pop in to have a look as I'm 80+ miles away.

Have a look at the picture and also the seating plan on the GTFC website.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

Does anyone know which seats in the Pontoon have a post-free view of both goals? Never had a season ticket before as an exile but am thinking of getting 4 quickly before I become more rational. Don't want to spend the season craning round a post though but can't just pop in to have a look as I'm 80+ miles away.

They’re usually pretty good if you ring the ticket office, they know which ones have restrictions.

If you go when it's quite(fat chance at the minute) they are quite happy for you to go try any seat.

Quoted from Sigone

If you go when it's quite(fat chance at the minute) they are quite happy for you to go try any seat.

Quite fancy the one in the dugout next to Dave Moore!

mate thinks majority of those sold today will be new season ticket holders. That would make today's figures even more impressive

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

Does anyone know which seats in the Pontoon have a post-free view of both goals?

You can see them from most seats and also the crossbars too.

They reckon we’ve sold 700!!! Usually sell 100 on the 1st day.

This is what should’ve happened when we went up before but the tickets didn’t go on sale for weeks after. I seriously think we will sell 5k.

How do you apply the 5% discount or being a Mariners Trust member when you buy online?

Quoted from Les Brechin

How do you apply the 5% discount or being a Mariners Trust member when you buy online?

Anyone know this or do I need to buy in person from the club to get the discount?

Quoted from Les Brechin

Anyone know this or do I need to buy in person from the club to get the discount?

Les, email enquiries @ marinerstrust.co.uk and they’ll verify your membership and send you a code.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Les, email enquiries @ marinerstrust.co.uk and they’ll verify your membership and send you a code.

Cheers.

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1534470891211464705

Bought 4 last night for me, my lads and my Dad. Madness as we will struggle to make any midweek games but feels like we're at the start of something special and I want to miss as little as possible.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

Bought 4 last night for me, my lads and my Dad. Madness as we will struggle to make any midweek games but feels like we're at the start of something special and I want to miss as little as possible.

if this rate of sales continues I'm hoping that the club will look to expand the 'buy back' scheme they trialled last year. Seems an 'everyone's a winner' no brainer to me

Selling 10x last year on day 1 is incredible. What's the maximum we can sell?

Quoted from LondonMariner43

Selling 10x last year on day 1 is incredible. What's the maximum we can sell?

That’s absolutely incredible. A 560% increase year on year.

That rate of increase won’t and can’t continue, not least because we’d run out of seats in a matter of days, but it seems hard to imagine us not clearing 5,000 now which would be remarkable.

It’s not beyond the imagination that we could have our highest average attendance since 1984 next season. I wasn’t even born then.

Quoted from Poojah

That’s absolutely incredible. A 560% increase year on year.

That rate of increase won’t and can’t continue, not least because we’d run out of seats in a matter of days, but it seems hard to imagine us not clearing 5,000 now which would be remarkable.

It’s not beyond the imagination that we could have our highest average attendance since 1984 next season. I wasn’t even born then.

it's a third of last year's total sales in 24 hours. and last years total sales were almost a record

Christ on a bike, I’ve just been on the ticket portal on the website and the availability is really limited! I’d be a new ST holder if I got one, and presumably a lot of the unavailable ones are existing that are being held, but still, I’m shocked at how sparse the ones left are!

Honestly, guys and girls, get a move on - most of those 1000-odd yesterday will indeed have been newbies!!

Well done to all. This could be tne making of us…..

Forgive me for being thick, but according to the online buying system, there are virtually no season tickets available in the Main Stand. Am I misreading it?

Quoted from Reverendmariner

Forgive me for being thick, but according to the online buying system, there are virtually no season tickets available in the Main Stand. Am I misreading it?

Plenty when you get towards the Osmond, but yeah, not many elsewhere. You ought to see the bloody Findus!

Quoted from MarinerDevil

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1534470891211464705

Great start, would be good if we could exceed the usual 3,000 or so.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Great start, would be good if we could exceed the usual 3,000 or so.

it's usually much less than that. Exceeding 3000 last year was almost record levels
https://twitter.com/mark_stilton/status/1430264651326103552/photo/2

Quoted from forza ivano

if this rate of sales continues I'm hoping that the club will look to expand the 'buy back' scheme they trialled last year. Seems an 'everyone's a winner' no brainer to me

I wasn't able to make 5/6 games last season but didn't use the buy back option, cant find any details on it, anyone help?

I am going to renew but know I will be in the same situation with games I cant make.

Quoted from brigg_mariner

I wasn't able to make 5/6 games last season but didn't use the buy back option, cant find any details on it, anyone help?

I am going to renew but know I will be in the same situation with games I cant make.

it was trialled at a game last year (stockport?). Think you got a fiver back and the club resold the seat for that day only

What cap will the club put on sales - anyone know? Surely we need a certain proportion / amount of walk-up availability?

Do we limit away fan numbers? If we go by what Wrexham allocated then 1200 in the Osmond, leave a block for segregation, would provide another 400 walk-ups for home fans and more if the 1200 isn't taken up. Lincoln have done this since the Cowley boom.

Is there anything regarding exile ST anymore, or is the view we'll sell too many ST to justify that? I've had a ST for years but likely moving away and won't be able to make more than 6-10 games a season.

When looking at ST sales, the map of BP has far more greyed out seats that green available seats. I assume this is because they are held for ST renewals until a certain date? HAs to be as there are far more greyed out seats than published sales figures. Is my assumption correct, and if so, does anyone know the date they go back to available and not sold?

Booked new one’s online this morning, still no email confirmation had anybody else had this? Hopefully down to system being busy.

You should have received a receipt.

Anyone know why I can't select my seat this year even when I'm logged in to My Account and when I click on My Tickets it shows my seat from last season.

When I go into the seating plan my seat is in grey and it won't let me select it,

Quoted from Gaffer58

Quite fancy the one in the dugout next to Dave Moore!

Very good of you to be open about this. And rightly so

His name is Chris Doig. But unfortunately for you I believe he is happily married. ;)
UTM

day off so decided to go and renew my ST,queued up for nearly 2hrs,staff doing a great job ,lots getting there 1st STs,its a wonderful thing,long may it continue. UTFM, ATAW

Quoted from DaleH

When looking at ST sales, the map of BP has far more greyed out seats that green available seats. I assume this is because they are held for ST renewals until a certain date? HAs to be as there are far more greyed out seats than published sales figures. Is my assumption correct, and if so, does anyone know the date they go back to available and not sold?

Your assumption is correct.

The 19th rings a bell but not certain on that. Not even sure if that's June or July either.

Quoted from newarkmariner

day off so decided to go and renew my ST,queued up for nearly 2hrs,staff doing a great job ,lots getting there 1st STs,its a wonderful thing,long may it continue. UTFM, ATAW

That A4, notepad must be nearly full. And I believe one member off staff is already on her third pen. Top work ticket staff 👍

Say typical wastage with existing STH is 10% due to change in personal circumstances, all other things being equal. There already looks to be circa 4k currently sold or reserved so its realistic to say there is already circa 3700 in the bag. Block F of the Pontoon is nearly gone, only A and B have good availability, the Lower is down to less than 100 and only block A of the Upper has good availability. Don't think I'll have alot of choice as a walk-up exile...

Does anybody know how many tickets sold up to date?

Think there's been people waiting in the ticket office most of the day , i went for mind after two ,took me 30 minutes to get served (three staff working hard)

Love this.

Anyone else constantly logging in to check the amount of sale? 😂

Quoted from Les Brechin

Anyone know why I can't select my seat this year even when I'm logged in to My Account and when I click on My Tickets it shows my seat from last season.

When I go into the seating plan my seat is in grey and it won't let me select it,

Anyone know the answer to this. Looks like i'll have to go down to the club to find out why.

Quoted from ginnywings

Your assumption is correct.

The 19th rings a bell but not certain on that. Not even sure if that's June or July either.

19th July.

Quoted from Les Brechin

Anyone know the answer to this. Looks like i'll have to go down to the club to find out why.

Is it not already in your basket? I think that's what others have said

Quoted from ginnywings

Your assumption is correct.

The 19th rings a bell but not certain on that. Not even sure if that's June or July either.

Existing ST holder seats are held until 19th July.

Quoted from Les Brechin

Anyone know the answer to this. Looks like i'll have to go down to the club to find out why.

Les you have to log in to your account THEN go back and select your seat as though you were a new customer. You should find your seat will be available. This happened to me too but thanks to marinerjase I managed to understand it.

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Say typical wastage with existing STH is 10% due to change in personal circumstances, all other things being equal. There already looks to be circa 4k currently sold or reserved so its realistic to say there is already circa 3700 in the bag. Block F of the Pontoon is nearly gone, only A and B have good availability, the Lower is down to less than 100 and only block A of the Upper has good availability. Don't think I'll have alot of choice as a walk-up exile...

I think historically the renewal rate is between 75% & 80%.

Cheers guys. Was told the 19th but didn't think to ask what month. I will be taking the seat of a family member who isn't renewing due to ill health, so knew I wasn't in a mad rush to get down there and get mine sorted.

Quoted from 800

Existing ST holder seats are held until 19th July.

I will renew mine at the end of June - don't fancy queueing for a couple of hours .

Quoted from GollyGTFC

I think historically the renewal rate is between 75% & 80%.

I think you can bank on it being higher than that this season.

Tried all things suggested and there's nothing in my basket and the seat is always shown in grey and not able to purchase.

Quoted from Les Brechin

Tried all things suggested and there's nothing in my basket and the seat is always shown in grey and not able to purchase.

Just give them as call when you can, ticket office will sort you out

Those in the queue take a flask and a croissant while I renew my ticket by phone at 9.30 tomorrow.

Last time I tried at that time I got 'there has been an error' for hours when I wanted a Notts County ticket. I don't trust myself to get it right online so patience is the key.

I have to say, as an exile, the office staff have been model professionals all year.

Anyone secured a code to get the Mariners Trust membership discount? Have emailed but not received anything yet

Quoted from Les Brechin

Tried all things suggested and there's nothing in my basket and the seat is always shown in grey and not able to purchase.

Can’t you just click on the seat anyway and add it to your basket and buy it? Makes no odds really - they know it’s yours and wouldn’t sell to anyone else before 19 July

Quoted from Les Brechin

Tried all things suggested and there's nothing in my basket and the seat is always shown in grey and not able to purchase.

Is the seat greyed out or the whole block?

When I logged in, for some reason it defaulted to the ‘away’ section, meaning all blocks in the ground were greyed out. I then clicked on the ‘change to home’ link, clicked on my block and found my seat highlighted in yellow.

May not be relevant but thought it worth mentioning.

Ignore that..see what you mean now..just clicked on mine as not renewed yet and it’s a black box rather than a grey one.

A simple printed message.

Renewed my family S.T's today at the ticket office and I received a very simple printed thank you message on a piece of card telling me my actual ticket will be with me as soon as they are ready.

What a difference, not used an excuse, no reason to not sell, get the tills ringing now , follow up with physical tickets later.

A simple printed message.........a massive sea change.

Barrattstander and I both bought season tickets on the first day. We have not had season tickets since the mid 1980s or earlier. We can be added to the many newbies.

We decided to get season tickets as it was difficult most games last season to get 2 tickets together in the UF.

With the current momentum, success and excitement I think that the demand for tickets next season will exceed current expectations. Even more so if we start the season well.

Quoted from marinerjase

Can’t you just click on the seat anyway and add it to your basket and buy it? Makes no odds really - they know it’s yours and wouldn’t sell to anyone else before 19 July

No, when I click on my seat, it says grey seats cannot be purchased, The 2 either side of mine are available so I'll probably buy one o those instead.

Quoted from Les Brechin

No, when I click on my seat, it says grey seats cannot be purchased, The 2 either side of mine are available so I'll probably buy one o those instead.

When you first log in, can’t you scroll to the bottom of the page and is there a link to it there?

Either way, the only reason you can’t select it is because it’s reserved for you. Seems daft to buy a different seat rather than just ring the ticket office. You’ve got until mid July.

Quoted from ska face

When you first log in, can’t you scroll to the bottom of the page and is there a link to it there?

Either way, the only reason you can’t select it is because it’s reserved for you. Seems daft to buy a different seat rather than just ring the ticket office. You’ve got until mid July.

Yeah, I.m going to nip down there in my lunch break today.

Quoted from Les Brechin

No, when I click on my seat, it says grey seats cannot be purchased, The 2 either side of mine are available so I'll probably buy one o those instead.

You have logged in have you? Your seat will show in yellow then.

1428 sold after day 2.

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1534808506829787136

Quoted from Grantham_Mariner

You have logged in have you? Your seat will show in yellow then.

I am logged in but it still shows in grey.

Quoted from Croxton

1428 sold after day 2.

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1534808506829787136

Just incredible..

Quoted from Croxton

1428 sold after day 2.

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1534808506829787136

Almost half of last years total done in 2 days

Quoted from Les Brechin

No, when I click on my seat, it says grey seats cannot be purchased, The 2 either side of mine are available so I'll probably buy one o those instead.

There’s an issue with 4 seats I want to buy in the Lower Findus as well which I’m almost certain can’t have been bought.

Quoted from Croxton

1428 sold after day 2.

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1534808506829787136

For context it took almost two weeks to reach that figure last year, which was still by far the fastest on record. Nuts.

Quoted from Poojah

For context it took almost two weeks to reach that figure last year, which was still by far the fastest on record. Nuts.

And youd imagine a fair few people are going to have to wait for June's pay packet, having spent a substantial amount on sunday

Thinking a bit more about it in terms of renewals, I reckon a good chunk of those 1400 odd will be new sales.

As a ST holder I'm in no rush to renew. I've got until 19th July to renew, why wouldn't I keep the money in my bank (after the expense of the play-offs) knowing full well my ticket isn't going to be sold on for the next 6 weeks. As a new sale, I'm going to want to snap up the seats I want, knowing full well the longer I wait the higher the risk that someone nabs that seat for themselves.

Exciting times!

Are half season tickets only ever a second half of the season thing?

Quoted from Poojah

For context it took almost two weeks to reach that figure last year, which was still by far the fastest on record. Nuts.

Momentum, we have got momentum, lets see how far it will take us.

Quoted from buckstown

Anyone secured a code to get the Mariners Trust membership discount? Have emailed but not received anything yet

Same here. I think the system is under some strain, understandably. Gonna chill and give them time. That Maguire Drew started all this!

Quoted from Croxton

Same here. I think the system is under some strain, understandably. Gonna chill and give them time. That Maguire Drew started all this!

I think, technically, Alex May started this. Thank the Lord for corrupt, immoral, shysters.

Quoted from buckstown

Anyone secured a code to get the Mariners Trust membership discount? Have emailed but not received anything yet

I've got my code from The Mariners Trust, it just won't let me buy my bloody seat. ;D

Quoted from Les Brechin

I've got my code from The Mariners Trust, it just won't let me buy my bloody seat. ;D

I went down and got my ticket this morning and was told by the staff that you cannot get the Trust discount online?

I got there a few minutes before they opened and was done and dusted before 10.05.

Quoted from NorthseaMariner

I went down and got my ticket this morning and was told by the staff that you cannot get the Trust discount online?

I got there a few minutes before they opened and was done and dusted before 10.05.

Well they've emailed me a code to enter.

Quoted from Croxton

Same here. I think the system is under some strain, understandably. Gonna chill and give them time. That Maguire Drew started all this!

All requests for Trust Discount codes have been responded to as at 12 noon today.

If you still have not received anything ( and have checked your spam/junk) please email again to enquiries@marinerstrust.co.uk

Quoted from NorthseaMariner

I went down and got my ticket this morning and was told by the staff that you cannot get the Trust discount online?

I got there a few minutes before they opened and was done and dusted before 10.05.

was it still busy down there Northsea?

I got there at 09.50 and was first in the que. I left at 10.10 and there was about a dozen people in the que. Not bad at all mate.

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1534863737198460936

Quoted from NorthseaMariner

I went down and got my ticket this morning and was told by the staff that you cannot get the Trust discount online?

I got there a few minutes before they opened and was done and dusted before 10.05.

All sorted now after a call to the club. Ticket now bought and you CAN get the MT discount online but you need to email them first to get a code to enter.

850 new ones sold so far so 4000 seems very achievable as a minimum.

850 is an incredible number of new ST holders in two and a half days of sales.

We're in the middle of a cost of living crisis, arguably the worst that many of us have seen. Yet we've added 20/25% new season ticket holders from the total number sold last season.

Wow. This club is going somewhere.

Quoted from Les Brechin

All sorted now after a call to the club. Ticket now bought and you CAN get the MT discount online but you need to email them first to get a code to enter.

Cheers Les, I wasn’t aware of that.

Still, all sorted now.

UTM

If you have the money now, you save over the season if you are a STH and go to the vast majority of home league games. Plus there are other benefits,

If we reckon there would be an 80% retention of current season tickets (probably a low estimate I would imagine) then we're already heading to a record total sold from two days of sales.

I just bought a season ticket for the first time since we left Grimsby in 1982. I'll only get to half a dozen games but stuff it, just get on the train!

Only 75 now left in the lower, I'm told
By my reckoning gtfc have taken almost half a million in 2 days!

Quoted from BIGChris

All requests for Trust Discount codes have been responded to as at 12 noon today.

If you still have not received anything ( and have checked your spam/junk) please email again to enquiries@marinerstrust.co.uk

Thanks Chris. All done complete with receipt.

How many in total can we sell? I'm led to believe a certain amount of tickets have to be available for general sale.

Quoted from Sigone

How many in total can we sell? I'm led to believe a certain amount of tickets have to be available for general sale.

I’ve been thinking this, but I don’t think it’s ever been clarified as we’ve never had this problem before haha

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

850 new ones sold so far so 4000 seems very achievable as a minimum.

As a minimum as you say; it would be incredible if we could get to 5000 season ticket holders. If we have had 850 new ones after a couple of days and say 3k existing ones renewed, 5k is surely achievable as news of the new sponsors, new players and further improvements to the match day experience come through.

I wonder how many clubs in league 2 would have more than that?

The thought of all home matches being more or less a sell-out for Town fans is not something I ever imagined would happen, but what a fantastic thing it would be.

One imagines the demand for corporate boxes and company sponsorships is also increasing. I can't quite believe it but I am certainly going to enjoy every minute.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

As a minimum as you say; it would be incredible if we could get to 5000 season ticket holders. If we have had 850 new ones after a couple of days and say 3k existing ones renewed, 5k is surely achievable as news of the new sponsors, new players and further improvements to the match day experience come through.

I wonder how many clubs in league 2 would have more than that?

Bradford for sure (though they do heavily subsidise them). Swindon probably. Tranmere and Wimbledon possibly.

Beyond that, not many if any. It would give us a real opportunity to have a proper crack at things next season, it really would.

Quoted from Poojah

Bradford for sure (though they do heavily subsidise them). Swindon probably. Tranmere and Wimbledon possibly.

Beyond that, not many if any. It would give us a real opportunity to have a proper crack at things next season, it really would.

Stockport?

Quoted from toontown

Stockport?

Yep, and Stockport. The common thing about all those sides is that we spent time with all of them in the second tier in fairly recent memory. I think that’s telling.

Is the four installments thing only for renewals or is that available for everyone? Can't see anything about it on the OS.

Quoted from Son of Cod

Is the four installments thing only for renewals or is that available for everyone? Can't see anything about it on the OS.

I wasn't offered the option when I bought this afternoon

Was supposed to be taking over the seat of a family member who wasn't renewing this year, so thought I had plenty of time to get mine sorted, but he has had a change of heart and renewed today. My brother also decided to get one after not getting one last year, so I've been on line trying to get two together for me and my bro, as near to possible as other family members. Found two, rang my brother to check he was ok with my choice and while on the phone, they got taken by someone else. We now have 1 booked near family, and 1 a few seats away, so no two together. Never known demand like it.

As an aside, when my nephew went to renew today, the office staff said that such was the demand that they are considering moving forward the deadline for renewal, so worth bearing in mind and keeping an eye out if you are leaving it until next month to renew yours.

Quoted from ginnywings

Was supposed to be taking over the seat of a family member who wasn't renewing this year, so thought I had plenty of time to get mine sorted, but he has had a change of heart and renewed today. My brother also decided to get one after not getting one last year, so I've been on line trying to get two together for me and my bro, as near to possible as other family members. Found two, rang my brother to check he was ok with my choice and while on the phone, they got taken by someone else. We now have 1 booked near family, and 1 a few seats away, so no two together. Never known demand like it.

Wow! Brilliant news though. I was going to hold on until the end of early bird time but might have to bring forward my purchase of a ST for the first time in 30 years!

At this rate there's gonna be Town fans trying to go in the away stand at BP because they can't get a ticket!!

Well lets hope they don't end it early as the current reservation dead line lines up with my payday lol 🤣

Quoted from ginnywings

Was supposed to be taking over the seat of a family member who wasn't renewing this year, so thought I had plenty of time to get mine sorted, but he has had a change of heart and renewed today. My brother also decided to get one after not getting one last year, so I've been on line trying to get two together for me and my bro, as near to possible as other family members. Found two, rang my brother to check he was ok with my choice and while on the phone, they got taken by someone else. We now have 1 booked near family, and 1 a few seats away, so no two together. Never known demand like it.

As an aside, when my nephew went to renew today, the office staff said that such was the demand that they are considering moving forward the deadline for renewal, so worth bearing in mind and keeping an eye out if you are leaving it until next month to renew yours.

You have to wonder if the owners’ “we don’t need a new ground, we can’t even fill the one we’ve got” was just a clever call to arms to justify exploring a new stadium - I hope so, because this season will be a huge test if they end up locking paying customers out like during the Bonetti days.

Season tickets continue to fly out the door. The pattern of selling as many per day as we did per week last season continues. That’s incredible.

https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1535173486636826625

[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9lSE-wWUAYVkFr?format=jpg&name=medium[/img]

Incredible stuff.

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1535217919185002496

Quoted from Jammin242

Well lets hope they don't end it early as the current reservation dead line lines up with my payday lol 🤣

If they do bring the date forward they could waive part of the £20 set up charge for the four payment option to smooth the process.

This way, the office staff get a bit more time to shuffle people round once vacancies are known. It was a very generous timescale given that the season starts on 30th July.

Closing in on last year’s total after 4 days. Flogging around 400 per day, and no obvious signs of slowing. Wow.

https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1535285584595341312

Quoted from Poojah

Closing in on last year’s total after 4 days. Flogging around 400 per day, and no obvious signs of slowing. Wow.

https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1535285584595341312

Astonishing, shows how big an opportunity was missed by the club in 2016.

If the tickets had come out in 3 weeks time I don't think it would've been like this.

im an exisiting ST holder but due to a holiday in a couple of weeks i cant really afford to purchase at the mo! i do hope they dont bring the date forward!

Quoted from Hagrid

im an exisiting ST holder but due to a holiday in a couple of weeks i cant really afford to purchase at the mo! i do hope they dont bring the date forward!

Have you got a credit card. Bung it on there and you wont have to pay for it for about a month!

Quoted from headingly_mariner

Astonishing, shows how big an opportunity was missed by the club in 2016.

If the tickets had come out in 3 weeks time I don't think it would've been like this.

It’s clear now how big an opportunity was missed for the previous 15 years or so.

We are now seeing the right way to run a football club.

Quoted from Les Brechin

Have you got a credit card. Bung it on there and you wont have to pay for it for about a month!

i havent mate, saving up for a mortgage so i didnt want to take one out

I doubt the club would go back on their word now and bring the date forward. I just don’t think it will be extended as with previous years.

Quoted from Hagrid

im an exisiting ST holder but due to a holiday in a couple of weeks i cant really afford to purchase at the mo! i do hope they dont bring the date forward!

I'd be disappointed if they did especially if it impacted anyone who didn't ask for their money back in the season where supporters couldn't go to games.

How many did we shift in 98/99?

Quoted from Poojah

https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1535285584595341312

So, that’s what it looks like to have all your ducks in a row

I know I have got officially till the 19th July, but our three will be renewed on Monday.

I am sure a lot of season-ticket holders will renew earlier if they can so the club can plan better.

I am equally sure if any existing season ticket holders told the club they cannot renew till the 19th of July or thereabouts for personal reasons, they will hold the seat open till then.

Roll on 5,000. Is that really possible? I don't think we will be far off. A mate that goes with us and pays on the day got one today, and the nearest he could get to sit with us was 5 rows away in the Pontoon! We are in row K and he could only get one in row F

19th July seems a long time away, there will no doubt be a few that don’t renew and the seats will probably be the better ones available so will potential new season ticket purchasers be better waiting till 20th July to snap them up ?

Quoted from supertown

19th July seems a long time away, there will no doubt be a few that don’t renew and the seats will probably be the better ones available so will potential new season ticket purchasers be better waiting till 20th July to snap them up ?

That seems unfair - those new STH that bought early should get the opportunity to swap and keep the early bird price. Perhaps GTFC already do this not sure. There’s not going to be much left on 20 July. I think it will be singles only apart from Block A in the Upper and the Main.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I know I have got officially till the 19th July, but our three will be renewed on Monday.

I am sure a lot of season-ticket holders will renew earlier if they can so the club can plan better.

I am equally sure if any existing season ticket holders told the club they cannot renew till the 19th of July or thereabouts for personal reasons, they will hold the seat open till then.

Roll on 5,000. Is that really possible? I don't think we will be far off. A mate that goes with us and pays on the day got one today, and the nearest he could get to sit with us was 5 rows away in the Pontoon! We are in row K and he could only get one in row F

I think if someone who has a history of being a STH went into the office and said they couldn’t meet the deadline I’m100% sure they would be looked after.

I’m not sure how many we’ll get to but it just shows how much people want to be part of something and what a good job the team, Jason, Andrew, Debbie, The Trust and Support has done in the last 12 months.

The numbers and positivity of the supporters this season has been a boost to the players for sure and the atmospheres home and away seems to have given them an extra yard. Who knows where it will end up with a full BP each game.

just bought two for me and my old man had them before when we went up first time around but got a new job on shifts an couldnt make it work. now how every weekend free so why not

Quoted from HertsGTFC

I think if someone who has a history of being a STH went into the office and said they couldn’t meet the deadline I’m100% sure they would be looked after.

I’m not sure how many we’ll get to but it just shows how much people want to be part of something and what a good job the team, Jason, Andrew, Debbie, The Trust and Support has done in the last 12 months.

The numbers and positivity of the supporters this season has been a boost to the players for sure and the atmospheres home and away seems to have given them an extra yard. Who knows where it will end up with a full BP each game.

I remember a previous regime telling us it was difficult to shift season tickets…

My feet are on the ground but my head is on the crest of a wave.....

I've changed stands this year making it affordable to get my kids 1 to share.

I've tried to ask the club how to make them aware my old seat won't be renewed but no luck as of yet

To anyone that will be going alone (ST holders either side of the seat) my old seat will be available in due course, brilliant view in the upper, no restricted view at all. Seat O92

Quoted from Poojah

Closing in on last year’s total after 4 days. Flogging around 400 per day, and no obvious signs of slowing. Wow.

https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1535285584595341312

What's more impressive is the proportion of those that are new STH - probably getting on for half current sales. Look at stadium plan and it looks like the sales for about a 4.8k crowd - the Ponny is nearly full. Some existing STH won't renew because of changed circumstances but we are nailed on for well over 4k and 5k is well within sight. That would mean only 1,500 homes seats available per game and most of those will be in the Main.

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

What's more impressive is the proportion of those that are new STH - probably getting on for half current sales. Look at stadium plan and it looks like the sales for about a 4.8k crowd - the Ponny is nearly full. Some existing STH won't renew because of changed circumstances but we are nailed on for well over 4k and 5k is well within sight. That would mean only 1,500 homes seats available per game and most of those will be in the Main.

and almost £750k in the club's coffers after 3 days

Quoted from Hagrid

i havent mate, saving up for a mortgage so i didnt want to take one out

You probs know this but for v bizarre reasons, you'll have a much better credit rating and therefore better mortgage options you have paid off a credit card for at least 6 months. We got stung by this, never wanted one as prefer to just spend own money, and it negatively affected our mortgage options

Quoted from MarinerWY

You probs know this but for v bizarre reasons, you'll have a much better credit rating and therefore better mortgage options you have paid off a credit card for at least 6 months. We got stung by this, never wanted one as prefer to just spend own money, and it negatively affected our mortgage options

I'm not sure that proving you can pay debts on time to build your credit score qualifies as a "bizarre" reason

Stockwood has just tweeted that every penny from sales goes on the squad.

Quoted from Hagrid

im an exisiting ST holder but due to a holiday in a couple of weeks i cant really afford to purchase at the mo! i do hope they dont bring the date forward!

Just get the credit card, for credit rating status alone. Take the four payment option and pay the £20 fee. Balance the cost by restricting your away trips a tad? (sorry to sound patronising)

Ticket office open 9 - 12 today!!

Quoted from headingly_mariner

Stockwood has just tweeted that every penny from sales goes on the squad.

Fúcking hell.

https://mobile.twitter.com/mark_stilton/status/1535288224263901186

Every penny going on the squad and we’ve sold maybe half of what we’re projected to sell ST-wise at C£750k and have at least one big earner leaving. Hopefully Hurst can assemble a very good squad with that war chest.

Quoted from LH

Every penny going on the squad and we’ve sold maybe half of what we’re projected to sell ST-wise at C£750k and have at least one big earner leaving. Hopefully Hurst can assemble a very good squad with that war chest.

Yep, it’s definitely significant that our highest earner didn’t feature past November. We have both a really solid base plus, you would imagine, significant room in the budget for expansion and development of the squad.

When was the last time you could say that?

Quoted from pizzzza

I'm not sure that proving you can pay debts on time to build your credit score qualifies as a "bizarre" reason

I think it's bizarre when you have paid off rent on time for years (of a significantly higher amount than mortgage payments), paid off gas, leccy, water etc. on time for years and not had an overdraft on your current account. When those factors are in place, not having a credit card shouldn't affect things imo.

Quoted from Poojah

Yep, it’s definitely significant that our highest earner didn’t feature past November. We have both a really solid base plus, you would imagine, significant room in the budget for expansion and development of the squad.

When was the last time you could say that?

1998?

In all seriousness, I don’t ever remember a mood shift like this at town in my life time, and the desperation to purchase season tickets is unheard of.

We all know how much the club copulated up in 2016 but I still don’t think we’d have shifted this many Becauee there was still a bad smell hanging around the club…

This is unprecedented and it shows just how valuable the club is and what it can be to the community and the people of the local areas…

Quoted from aldi_01

1998?

In all seriousness, I don’t ever remember a mood shift like this at town in my life time, and the desperation to purchase season tickets is unheard of.

We all know how much the club copulated up in 2016 but I still don’t think we’d have shifted this many Becauee there was still a bad smell hanging around the club…

This is unprecedented and it shows just how valuable the club is and what it can be to the community and the people of the local areas…

100%. I was thinking ‘97 or ‘98 - we didn’t do much business after the double Wembley season, although you could argue we didn’t need to, only signing Stacy Coldicott and Lee Ashcroft. I’d argue Coldicott was probably the better signing, pound for pound.

But this is definitely a completely new feeling and mood surrounding the club. Keeping Fox would be absolutely massive, and I reckon for once we’ll do everything in our power to make such a statement. Unlike 2016 when the squad was dismantled like a badly assembled IKEA bookcase.

Quoted from Poojah

100%. I was thinking ‘97 or ‘98 - we didn’t do much business after the double Wembley season, although you could argue we didn’t need to, only signing Stacy Coldicott and Lee Ashcroft. I’d argue Coldicott was probably the better signing, pound for pound.

But this is definitely a completely new feeling and mood surrounding the club. Keeping Fox would be absolutely massive, and I reckon for once we’ll do everything in our power to make such a statement. Unlike 2016 when the squad was dismantled like a badly assembled IKEA bookcase.

Looking back, as a fan 2016 was amazing and sheer relief but as a club they seemed to sit back, pat themselves on the back and out their feet up. No plan of making sure it ever happened again and then proceeded to make the same mistakes which inevitably took us down again…

That isn’t the case this time and the club has been catapulted in to 2022.

As you say, we barely did any business in 1998 and that’s understandable, this time you’d argue there’s still work to be done but should the spine and key player sign (Stockwood intimated this last night) then you’d be very happy.

Players have improved under Hurst and the culture around the club is one of teamwork, dedication and community. Progressive even.

No doubt Hurst will pull a rabbit out the hat, just like Bogle or Nolan or Mcatee. Looking back, th signings made in January have literally taken us up, the club has been on a journey but the ending was beyond anything we predicted or imagined…

Quoted from Poojah

100%. I was thinking ‘97 or ‘98 - we didn’t do much business after the double Wembley season, although you could argue we didn’t need to, only signing Stacy Coldicott and Lee Ashcroft. I’d argue Coldicott was probably the better signing, pound for pound.

But this is definitely a completely new feeling and mood surrounding the club. Keeping Fox would be absolutely massive, and I reckon for once we’ll do everything in our power to make such a statement. Unlike 2016 when the squad was dismantled like a badly assembled IKEA bookcase.

Which pundit said that the ref collapsed like an MFI wardrobe?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixp5AVdC2f4&list=TLPQMTEwNjIwMjJu50V9KJQ0kA&index=2

I assume we also made a large wad of cash from the playoff games too? We must be quids in. Let’s hope we bring in some real quality players.

Quoted from RonMariner

I assume we also made a large wad of cash from the playoff games too? We must be quids in. Let’s hope we bring in some real quality players.

I don't think we will have , unless the gate receipts are shared. The fees we receive for being broadcast live are minimal.
More importantly from a financial point of view is that Macca, Rose and Coke leaving will take c£500k off the wage bill (3 players who have spent naff all time on the pitch in the last 6 months)

Quoted from forza ivano

I don't think we will have , unless the gate receipts are shared. The fees we receive for being broadcast live are minimal.
More importantly from a financial point of view is that Macca, Rose and Coke leaving will take c£500k off the wage bill (3 players who have spent naff all time on the pitch in the last 6 months)

£500k? That’s overstating it a little bit isn’t it; surely they’re not on £3k+ a week each, are they?

Regardless, the general point’s a good one. Budget-wise we must be in absolutely excellent shape.

I've never felt so attached and obsessed with the club like I do now..

To put that into prospective.. I live 300 miles away and get to 6-7 games a season... I used to live in Grimsby and have a ST.

Quoted from Poojah

Fúcking hell.

https://mobile.twitter.com/mark_stilton/status/1535288224263901186

A very astute move that by the owners. What better incentive to buy a season ticket knowing your money is going to pay for better players. A lot of people would have been put off during the previous regime thinking the opposite.

Quoted from Poojah

£500k? That’s overstating it a little bit isn’t it; surely they’re not on £3k+ a week each, are they?

Regardless, the general point’s a good one. Budget-wise we must be in absolutely excellent shape.

I've included the employer's statutory payments (NI, pension etc, which is equates to c. 30% more than the stated wage.) Think it's safe to assume that the 3 of them were costing us at least £6000 per week gross, which equates to over £400,000 with NI & pension payments, (and that's without any bonuses that were paid or were due)

Quoted from forza ivano

I've included the employer's statutory payments (NI, pension etc, which is equates to c. 30% more than the stated wage.) Think it's safe to assume that the 3 of them were costing us at least £6000 per week gross, which equates to over £400,000 with NI & pension payments, (and that's without any bonuses that were paid or were due)

That is indeed absolutely gross.

Quoted from forza ivano

I've included the employer's statutory payments (NI, pension etc, which is equates to c. 30% more than the stated wage.) Think it's safe to assume that the 3 of them were costing us at least £6000 per week gross, which equates to over £400,000 with NI & pension payments, (and that's without any bonuses that were paid or were due)

I'd be very surprised if those 3's combined contractual salaries was more than £225k and possibly less than £200k. Still a decent wedge as you say. Bennett would be worth most of that saving

McKeown, Coke, Grant, Rose, Scannell all likely off the wage bill is a big chunk. I also can’t see Fox being here next season unfortunately 😞

Quoted from immariner

I'd be very surprised if those 3's combined contractual salaries was more than £225k and possibly less than £200k. Still a decent wedge as you say. Bennett would be worth most of that saving

You think Rose, for example, moving up here from his southern base , would be on £1000 a week?? He will be on a lot more than that. (Even at Conference South experienced ex pros are pulling in £500 per week and are only part time) Macca was on a very nice contract - wasn't the story that he actually managed to get one over on Fenty and demanded parity with Hanson?

Fenty said “Macca dragged us over the coals” with his contract negotiations. I bet he was on 2.5-3k a week.

Didn't Macca have a match highest earner clause in his contract

Quoted from Wedidntdidwe

Didn't Macca have a match highest earner clause in his contract

Surely only the madness of football allows this weird excrement.

Fenty did say Macca had them over the coals but we’re also talking about the man who referred to Stockwood and Pettit as tyrekickers, snapped a kids flag and thought women smuggled smoke bombs in as tampons so not sure his word is one ti trust…

Quoted from Mariner_09

Fenty said “Macca dragged us over the coals” with his contract negotiations. I bet he was on 2.5-3k a week.

i heard that was the ball park figure

Quoted from forza ivano

You think Rose, for example, moving up here from his southern base , would be on £1000 a week?? He will be on a lot more than that. (Even at Conference South experienced ex pros are pulling in £500 per week and are only part time) Macca was on a very nice contract - wasn't the story that he actually managed to get one over on Fenty and demanded parity with Hanson?

Yeah I would. and Rose moved up here for a reason, possibly because of Ian Holloway., being a Bristol lad. Looking at the clubs he's played for, moving clearly isn't an issue for him so I genuinely doubt he'd have been on much more than the league 2 average of about £1k a week, as that's what Scannell was earning. With Coke, he hadn't made close to double figure starts for anyone since playing for Bury in 2012. He'd have snapped Hurst's hand off to move closer to his Sheffield home and go up 2 divisions. Wouldn't imagine he would be on more than £35-40k as he had a lot to prove I imagine McKeown is on £2k a week. Anyway who knows, like I said, doubt it would be more than £225k and if it was, not by much.

Just bought my first one since 2001/2 with my little bro. His first since 2015/16 I think. Let's have it!

Quoted from forza ivano

i heard that was the ball park figure

Initially probably true but I’d be amazed if Fenty hadn’t put a relegation clause in everyone’s contracts. Would have thought he’d have been on less this season.

Anyway your point stands, even if we disagree on the exact figure, a massive percentage of our wage budget now available.

Lisa Piggott posted on social media earlier that sales topped 2500 today. Incredible

Quoted from immariner

Yeah I would. and Rose moved up here for a reason, possibly because of Ian Holloway., being a Bristol lad. Looking at the clubs he's played for, moving clearly isn't an issue for him so I genuinely doubt he'd have been on much more than the league 2 average of about £1k a week, as that's what Scannell was earning. With Coke, he hadn't made close to double figure starts for anyone since playing for Bury in 2012. He'd have snapped Hurst's hand off to move closer to his Sheffield home and go up 2 divisions. Wouldn't imagine he would be on more than £35-40k as he had a lot to prove I imagine McKeown is on £2k a week. Anyway who knows, like I said, doubt it would be more than £225k and if it was, not by much.

McKeown on £2k a week!? That surely can't be correct.

Quoted from Plankton

McKeown on £2k a week!? That surely can't be correct.

He’s probably on nearer £2.5k

Quoted from aldi_01

He’s probably on nearer £2.5k

It was certainly suggested at the beginning of the season that he and Fox were both on that amount. If that is indeed the case, how much is Fox demanding now? £3,500 per week? Who knows, but he did come from League 1, so he’ll be expecting something like that.

Quoted from Heisenberg

It was certainly suggested at the beginning of the season that he and Fox were both on that amount. If that is indeed the case, how much is Fox demanding now? £3,500 per week? Who knows, but he did come from League 1, so he’ll be expecting something like that.

Fox is probably worth it, Macca, long time servant and all that but we could pick up a keeper that’s of similar ability.

I suspect had Macca not been here this long we probably wouldn’t be too bothered.

Quoted from Heisenberg

It was certainly suggested at the beginning of the season that he and Fox were both on that amount. If that is indeed the case, how much is Fox demanding now? £3,500 per week? Who knows, but he did come from League 1, so he’ll be expecting something like that.

Can't see Fox being on more than £1.5k per week. Yes, he came from Leqgue 1 where the average wage is £2k-2.5k but he came from Burton, who will pay under average or at the very bottom end of average for that division, having come through their system and only making 37 appearances in 4 years. He may have been astute property after leaving Burton but he certainly wasn't hot property

I'm in Town next week so I may be able to collect my Season ticket earlier than first thought. The email said 'wait 24hrs before collection'. Is that referring to the whole package? Anyone collected their big brown envelope yet?

Quoted from Croxton

I'm in Town next week so I may be able to collect my Season ticket earlier than first thought. The email said 'wait 24hrs before collection'. Is that referring to the whole package? Anyone collected their big brown envelope yet?

I was there on the first day, and they were saying it would be 1-2 weeks to collect your season ticket card

Quoted from Croxton

I'm in Town next week so I may be able to collect my Season ticket earlier than first thought. The email said 'wait 24hrs before collection'. Is that referring to the whole package? Anyone collected their big brown envelope yet?

The club have said they won't be available until the end of the month/beginning of July

So I have done some research re EFL average wage for League 2, and the result was 100% stated as £2200 per week, this not include any bonuses that some players may be getting.

Quoted from 123614

So I have done some research re EFL average wage for League 2, and the result was 100% stated as £2200 per week, this not include any bonuses that some players may be getting. These are the average wages from 2020.

Edit: https://salarysport.com/football/sky-bet-league-two/grimsby-town/

Quoted from immariner

The club have said they won't be available until the end of the month/beginning of July

Thanks, I'll bide my time!

Quoted from 123614

Edit: https://salarysport.com/football/sky-bet-league-two/grimsby-town/

This will of course be 100% accurate and isn’t in any way complete guesswork.

Why do people doubt that even lower league footballers get silly wages too? They do a job that not everybody can do and the best and most experienced players at each club will get very good money.

Quoted from aldi_01

Looking back, as a fan 2016 was amazing and sheer relief but as a club they seemed to sit back, pat themselves on the back and out their feet up. No plan of making sure it ever happened again and then proceeded to make the same mistakes which inevitably took us down again…

That isn’t the case this time and the club has been catapulted in to 2022.

As you say, we barely did any business in 1998 and that’s understandable, this time you’d argue there’s still work to be done but should the spine and key player sign (Stockwood intimated this last night) then you’d be very happy.

Players have improved under Hurst and the culture around the club is one of teamwork, dedication and community. Progressive even.

No doubt Hurst will pull a rabbit out the hat, just like Bogle or Nolan or Mcatee. Looking back, th signings made in January have literally taken us up, the club has been on a journey but the ending was beyond anything we predicted or imagined…

Regarding should the key player sign? Is this a current player (fox) or a possible target do we know?

119 seats available in the Pontoon*

*doesn't take into account 2021/22 STHs who don't renew.

Am I right in thinking it's over 2,800 already?
I can only assume ALOT of people will be waiting until next payday whichll make an incredible amount from previous seasons

Quoted from lukeo

Am I right in thinking it's over 2,800 already?
I can only assume ALOT of people will be waiting until next payday whichll make an incredible amount from previous seasons

Lisa Piggott said 2530 when she left work yesterday

Quoted from GollyGTFC

119 seats available in the Pontoon*

*doesn't take into account 2021/22 STHs who don't renew.

It's going to be full every game isn't it and so is the Lower.

Question for Kristine - will the club will release remaining seats for each home game in a stagger with 1878 and Trust before general sale? If so I'll get another 1878 in the name of one of my lads so I can get 3 together.

Just had a quick count of the available ST seats...

  310 / 1,748 - Upper Tier
   40 /   811 - Lower Tier
  119 / 1,728 - Pontoon Stand
  861 / 2,393 - Main Stand

1,330 / 6,670 - TOTAL

There must be some seats reserved for match day sales only.

There can't be 5,340 seats already sold or reserved for 2021/22 STHs. There were approximately 3,300 STs sold last season & there aren't 2,000 new STHs for the 2022/23 season.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Just had a quick count of the available ST seats...

  310 / 1,748 - Upper Tier
   40 /   811 - Lower Tier
  119 / 1,728 - Pontoon Stand
  861 / 2,393 - Main Stand

1,330 / 6,670 - TOTAL

There must be some seats reserved for match day sales only.

There can't be 5,340 seats already sold or reserved for 2021/22 STHs. There were approximately 3,300 STs sold last season & there aren't 2,000 new STHs for the 2022/23 season.

Around 300 in the upper are reserved for directors, corporate and comps, so you can probably deduct that from the total available. In that case circa 1,700 new ST’s out of around 2,600 sales in total wouldn’t surprise me.

Out of the first 1,200 or so sold, I think the club stated around 800 were new; about the same in percentage terms.

I really do think this could be the summer where the hairs finally begin to stand up on the back of our necks.

Surely time to start looking at temporary seating if not already doing so given the issues that will no doubt need to be resolved before that came happen. If VCwr start well it would be very happy unfortunate if we were turning people away. If Lincoln can go from 3000 to 9000 in a year why can’t we?

Quoted from Poojah

Around 300 in the upper are reserved for directors, corporate and comps, so you can probably deduct that from the total available. In that case circa 1,700 new ST’s out of around 2,600 sales in total wouldn’t surprise me.

Out of the first 1,200 or so sold, I think the club stated around 800 were new; about the same in percentage terms.

I really do think this could be the summer where the hairs finally begin to stand up on the back of our necks.

STs aren’t available in the director box block.

Quoted from HerveJosse

Surely time to start looking at temporary seating if not already doing so given the issues that will no doubt need to be resolved before that came happen. If VCwr start well it would be very happy unfortunate if we were turning people away. If Lincoln can go from 3000 to 9000 in a year why can’t we?

I'm sure we will be looking at every avenue available to us.

I think the temporary seats will have to be covered though as it is an unpleasant experience sitting in the pouring rain.

I wonder if covered temporary seating could accommodate away fans if we limit their numbers leaving the whole of the Osmond for us? Probably too quick a turn around to consider drastic measures like that but certainly it would seem a good investment to have covered temporary seating asap to give us more options.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I'm sure we will be looking at every avenue available to us.

I think the temporary seats will have to be covered though as it is an unpleasant experience sitting in the pouring rain.

I wonder if covered temporary seating could accommodate away fans if we limit their numbers leaving the whole of the Osmond for us? Probably too quick a turn around to consider drastic measures like that but certainly it would seem a good investment to have covered temporary seating asap.

Lincoln have bought a 400 seat covered stand that fits in between the Stacey West and the small side stand. We averaged 5.7k with 3.4k STH last season. Overall away fan average no's was what? Maybe 250-300 at most? So we averaged 2k home walk-ups per game. Similar to Lincoln actually with 6k STH. If we get to 5k STH, on that basis, accommodation for 7k home fans would be needed to avoid turning people away for most home games.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

STs aren’t available in the director box block.

That being my very point; those seats would need to be deducted from the total home capacity of 6,670. In effect, you’re working backwards from a figure closer to 6,370 to establish how many tickets have either been sold or are currently being held for existing ST holders.

If that’s already accounted for then c. 2,000 new ST’s does seem a little on the high side but it wouldn’t shock me either. It’s feels unlikely that the club would have had a system in place to block out tickets for general match day sale as it’s quite literally never been an issue before in our history, and I doubt the sheer level of demand would have been foreseen two or three weeks ago.

I would imagine we’ll get an official update from the club tomorrow, but one thing is for sure this is going to be a record breaking year for season ticket sales by some considerable margin.

the latest graph - looks good doesn't it?

https://twitter.com/mark_stilton/status/1535967645832466433

Quoted from mariner91

This will of course be 100% accurate and isn’t in any way complete guesswork.

I never said it was, no need to shoot the messenger :)

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Lincoln have bought a 400 seat covered stand that fits in between the Stacey West and the small side stand. We averaged 5.7k with 3.4k STH last season. Overall away fan average no's was what? Maybe 250-300 at most? So we averaged 2k home walk-ups per game. Similar to Lincoln actually with 6k STH. If we get to 5k STH, on that basis, accommodation for 7k home fans would be needed to avoid turning people away for most home games.

289.68 which was heavily skewed by the 3 clubs who bought over a thousand. Half of the away following were only in double figures.

We averaged 5,414.14 home fans per match.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

289.68 which was heavily skewed by the 3 clubs who bought over a thousand. Half of the away following were only in double figures.

We averaged 5,141.14 home fans per match.

Home average was 5,704 [url]https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/national-league/attendances[/url]

So 5,414.32 home fans based upon the above away average. I suspect that home average table in the link includes play-offs because[url]https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/national-league/attendances/away[/url] we are way out in front as the most popular visitors...

Edit - on that link the final was credited to Solihull as a home game! So those numbers are a pile of shite...save our home average I assume is right because we didn't have a home play-off game.

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Home average was 5,704 [url]https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/national-league/attendances[/url]

So 5,405.32 home fans based upon the above away average. I suspect that home average table in the link includes play-offs because[url]https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/national-league/attendances/away[/url] we are way out in front as the most popular visitors...

I got my 1's and 4's the wrong way around.

Total attendance (22 matches) : 125,484
Average attendance : 5,703.82

Total away fans (22 matches) : 6,373
Average away fans : 289.68

Total home fans (22 matches) : 119,111
Average home fans : 5,414.14

Quoted from Poojah

That being my very point; those seats would need to be deducted from the total home capacity of 6,670. In effect, you’re working backwards from a figure closer to 6,370 to establish how many tickets have either been sold or are currently being held for existing ST holders.

If that’s already accounted for then c. 2,000 new ST’s does seem a little on the high side but it wouldn’t shock me either. It’s feels unlikely that the club would have had a system in place to block out tickets for general match day sale as it’s quite literally never been an issue before in our history, and I doubt the sheer level of demand would have been foreseen two or three weeks ago.

I would imagine we’ll get an official update from the club tomorrow, but one thing is for sure this is going to be a record breaking year for season ticket sales by some considerable margin.

No, I didn't count the 4th block in the Upper (counting from Osmond end of Stand) in my total capacity for the stand. My figures are only the blocks available for sale.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Total attendance (22 matches) : 125,484
Average attendance : 5,703.82

Total away fans (22 matches) : 6,373
Average away fans : 289.68

Total home fans (22 matches) : 119,111
Average home fans : 5,414.14

Always good to be precise - especially if you've ever been a cricket scorer - never credit leg byes to byes - it upsets the wicket-keeper no end...

Just ordered my first season ticket after following the Mariners for around 42 years. Went halves with a workmate who works the four days when I’m off. Also got a season ticket for his young daughter. One question that I do have is, if I take my adult son with me, can we just pay the difference so that he can sit next to me in the child’s seat?

Quoted from Spidey

Just ordered my first season ticket after following the Mariners for around 42 years. Went halves with a workmate who works the four days when I’m off. Also got a season ticket for his young daughter. One question that I do have is, if I take my adult son with me, can we just pay the difference so that he can sit next to me in the child’s seat?

I’m glad you’ve asked this, as I also need to know the answer!! So, I’m no help whatsoever, but I await a useful poster to enlighten us both…..

Pretty sure that sharing a season ticket wouldn't be approved of by the club if it was declared and also they wouldn't allow "to top up" a child's ticket.
Would be a head scratcher of a calculation to work out for a start.

Quoted from moosey_club

Pretty sure that sharing a season ticket wouldn't be approved of by the club if it was declared and also they wouldn't allow "to top up" a child's ticket.
Would be a head scratcher of a calculation to work out for a start.

Would probably be best then to just get him his own ticket, and sit next to me in the child’s season ticket seat.

Quoted from Spidey

Would probably be best then to just get him his own ticket, and sit next to me in the child’s season ticket seat.

Let’s not assume there’ll be any general admission tickets available!

Quoted from Spidey

Just ordered my first season ticket after following the Mariners for around 42 years. Went halves with a workmate who works the four days when I’m off. Also got a season ticket for his young daughter. One question that I do have is, if I take my adult son with me, can we just pay the difference so that he can sit next to me in the child’s seat?

Arghhh, just realised I'm at a Lady GaGa concert on the opening day, hope it's an away game, sorry to sound selfish!!

Quoted from Spidey

Arghhh, just realised I'm at a Lady GaGa concert on the opening day, hope it's an away game, sorry to sound selfish!!

I know where I'd rather be...

Quoted from Spidey

Arghhh, just realised I'm at a Lady GaGa concert on the opening day, hope it's an away game, sorry to sound selfish!!

Leyton Orient. Wimbledon or Sutton away and we could do both.

I've got tickets to Euro 2022 Final on 31st July so a London area away game wouldn't be the end of the world for me.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Leyton Orient. Wimbledon or Sutton away and we could do both.

I've got tickets to Euro 2022 Final on 31st July so a London area away game wouldn't be the end of the world for me.

Non football. It’s even more non football than Lady Gaga!

An average home gate of 5,703 (including away fans) put us 6th this season. This shows the strength at the top of the NL.

This same attendance figure would still have put us 7th in Div 1 last season.

Next season with the impetus of promotion, far more new STHs and a larger away fan average, we could be around a 7,000 average. A fantastic achievement.

I presume Lady Gaga are a band? Are they any good? (they'd have to be a superb ensemble to be better than watching Town's return to the FL) :P

I’m really hoping it’s a home game. I’m away on holiday for 3 weeks from the 3rd August, and it would be gutting to miss a packed to the rafters BP absolutely bouncing once more.

Of course, I’d happily go if it’s an away game but if it’s somewhere like Harrogate, that’s going to be an absolute shít show with 5,000+ season ticket holders.

Quoted from Poojah

I’m really hoping it’s a home game. I’m away on holiday for 3 weeks from the 3rd August, and it would be gutting to miss a packed to the rafters BP absolutely bouncing once more.

Of course, I’d happily go if it’s an away game but if it’s somewhere like Harrogate, that’s going to be an absolute shít show with 5,000+ season ticket holders.

Whenever we go to Harrogate it’s going to be a disaster. They’ll have to do a ballot, or if it’s later in the season operate an away game based loyalty system. Sutton is another one with potential issues. Yes it’s South London but it’s only 500 away fans and nobody has been before. 1000 at Hartlepool, 1100 at Salford and even 1800 at Mansfield or 650 at Barrow could pose massive difficulties.

Quoted from Mariner_09

Whenever we go to Harrogate it’s going to be a disaster. They’ll have to do a ballot, or if it’s later in the season operate an away game based loyalty system. Sutton is another one with potential issues. Yes it’s South London but it’s only 500 away fans and nobody has been before. 1000 at Hartlepool, 1100 at Salford and even 1800 at Mansfield or 650 at Barrow could pose massive difficulties.

Yep, they really need to get working on some sort of solution for this, be it a ballot or a loyalty system. I think most would cut the club some slack over Notts County and Wrexham, they were almost unprecedented in terms of demand vs allocation.

But with comfortably record season ticket sales and a league dominated by northern and easy to get to London clubs, it’s going to be an issue again and again next season.

Quoted from Poojah

Yep, they really need to get working on some sort of solution for this, be it a ballot or a loyalty system. I think most would cut the club some slack over Notts County and Wrexham, they were al last unprecedented one terms of demand vs allocation.

But with comfortably record season ticket sales and a league dominated by northern and easy to get to London clubs, it’s going to be an issue again and again next season.

I am NOT condoning this, but anyone particularly worried/desperate about getting away tickets (particularly exiles) may be well advised to start planning now if they’re looking at home ends. Potentially by getting an online booking history with any clubs you’ll want to visit while they’re playing friendlies and you can get a kids ticket for few quid. Maybe even buy a ticket and get it refunded. Hey presto - long-standing booking history.

Would just like to repeat I am NOT condoning this quite heinous scheme. NOT.

Quoted from Poojah

Yep, they really need to get working on some sort of solution for this, be it a ballot or a loyalty system.

But how do you do this when you have already told STHs that by having a ST they have priority on away ticket sales? 1st come, 1st serve is the only way they could do it.

Quoted from pizzzza

But how do you do this when you have already told STHs that by having a ST they have priority on away ticket sales? 1sr come, 1st serve is the only way they could do it.

It’s a statement that’s open to interpretation. Season ticket holders will be subject to the first (and in many cases only round of priority), but if demand is still likely to exceed what’s available the club should still be in a position to implement the fairest option possible.

I’m not convinced that first come first served represents that.

Quoted from Poojah

It’s a statement that’s open to interpretation. Season ticket holders will be subject to the first (and in many cases only round of priority), but if demand is still likely to exceed what’s available the club should still be in a position to implement the fairest option possible.

I’m not convinced that first come first served represents that.

I don't think a ballot, as you suggest, does either, which is about luck of the draw. At least with 1st come, 1st serve those willing to queue earlier, who want the tickets the most, would benefit.

Quoted from pizzzza

I don't think a ballot, as you suggest, does either, which is about luck of the draw. At least with 1st come, 1st serve those willing to queue earlier, who want the tickets the most, would benefit.

I wasn’t putting it forward as a suggestion per se, merely as an alternative way to manage a surge in demand. There are many clubs with bigger challenges in this respect than us; it shouldn’t be too difficult to look into what works best for others and find a suitable solution.

Quoted from pizzzza

I don't think a ballot, as you suggest, does either, which is about luck of the draw. At least with 1st come, 1st serve those willing to queue earlier, who want the tickets the most, would benefit.

First come first served has a purpose but I think I’m this day and age we probably need to move away from over the counter sales, for games with a demand anyway. I know several folk who don’t live locally who attend pretty much every game, it would be nigh on impossible for them to queue for a ticket for a big game.

In truth this is a new phenomena but plenty of clubs have been doing things for years to deal with demand. A blend of those ideas would be more the sufficient you’d have thought, especially for the 4/5 times you need it.

Many clubs have loyalty systems which work well and incorporate seasons ticket holders first, but also loyalty points per away game too. IE, if the 11th away game of the season was Doncaster, and a season ticket holder had been to all 10 previous games, they would get points per game attended. Works well with the huge clubs who have tens of thousands of ST holders so no reason we couldn’t incorporate something similar. Plus it then allows non ST holders who go to many games to have their own preference over those who don’t go as often.

EG-
Season ticket gets you 150 points
Mariners Trust gets you 50 points
Each away game gets you 10 points
Home ticket for non ST holder gets you 5 points

Away game near the end of the season with only 2k tickets? Half a day for 250+, then 200, then 150 etc

If I still lived in the country I would most certainly be buying a ST. The support has been incredible. The club management has been incredible. Amazing how different everything is compared to say 12-18 months ago.

Quoted from aldi_01

First come first served has a purpose but I think I’m this day and age we probably need to move away from over the counter sales, for games with a demand anyway. I know several folk who don’t live locally who attend pretty much every game, it would be nigh on impossible for them to queue for a ticket for a big game.

In truth this is a new phenomena but plenty of clubs have been doing things for years to deal with demand. A blend of those ideas would be more the sufficient you’d have thought, especially for the 4/5 times you need it.

I agree with you. I think it is a bit too much to expect exiled supporters to drive to BP for tickets for matches nearer to their homes. We have had a shortage of tickets for away games before and a mixture of over-the-counter/telephone/internet sales seems to have worked reasonably well in the past.

Regardless of where we live "We're all Town, aren't we".

Here we go then, near enough 2,600 sold , 54% of which are new. That proportion will drop as new sales slow and existing ST holders renew, but regardless we’re heading for an unprecedented number his year.

https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1536257516933455872

Quoted from Poojah

Here we go then, near enough 2,600 sold , 54% of which are new. That proportion will drop as new sales slow and existing ST holders renew, but regardless we’re heading for an unprecedented number his year.

A lad I work with has just bought 4 for him and his relatives and he's never had a season ticket before.

Quoted from Poojah

Here we go then, near enough 2,600 sold , 54% of which are new. That proportion will drop as new sales slow and existing ST holders renew, but regardless we’re heading for an unprecedented number his year.

https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1536257516933455872

So 4500 seems like a do-able target. Not the 5000 we were hoping for, but we shall see. Hurst must be relieved, he’s gonna need a good budget to compete in L2 nowadays, the money involved is daft.

If you log into 'Tickets', 'my account', 'my details', you will see that there is a 'loyalty score'. Don't know for sure how it is calibrated but my current score is 230.

So, a potential tool for a fair system.

Some STHs won’t have anything to moan about anymore so might not renew.

Quoted from Heisenberg

So 4500 seems like a do-able target. Not the 5000 we were hoping for, but we shall see. Hurst must be relieved, he’s gonna need a good budget to compete in L2 nowadays, the money involved is daft.

Can anyone recall the final figure from last season? I seem to recall ST’s continued to sell into the season and we cleared 3,300, but I might be wrong.

If that was the case, assuming minimal attrition we should clear 4,500 as we stand. Perhaps an additional 500 new punters might be a stretch, but for context we’ve been averaging 200 new season tickets per day since they went on sale; we’d only need to average 14 per day between now and the 19th July early bird deadline to clear that figure.

It’s not impossible you know.

Quoted from Croxton

If you log into 'Tickets', 'my account', 'my details', you will see that there is a 'loyalty score'. Don't know for sure how it is calibrated but my current score is 230.

So, a potential tool for a fair system.

My loyalty score is 690, how they work it out I do not know as there is no breakdown. [Season ticket + 2/3rd of away games + lottery + ?]

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1536257516933455872?t=v0CTZuyMVntNQQin8LkAvg&s=19

I think the final figure last season was circa 3,370, so zero attrition gives us 4,770. Perhaps reasonable to assume further newbies = attrition?

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

I think the final figure last season was circa 3,370, so zero attrition gives us 4,770. Perhaps reasonable to assume further newbies = attrition?

There will always be attrition. Illness, changes in financial circumstances, moving away from the area. Those factors are unavoidable, however I imagine by far the biggest reason in recent years has been people simply getting fed up with results, performances and the way the club was being run in general.

That certainly won't apply this season and so I'd expect the renewal rate to be exceptionally high. If the figure last season was indeed 3,370, then I think there's a very realistic chance of 5,000. It should only take a steady trickle of newbies from here on in to achieve that.

Wow.

Wonder how many are left before we start getting into “restricted views” territory. That’s always going to hit sales as I can’t see anyone parting with £340 to be permanently lumbered with a restricted view.

Quoted from ska face

Wonder how many are left before we start getting into “restricted views” territory. That’s always going to hit sales as I can’t see anyone parting with £340 to be permanently lumbered with a restricted view.

Conversely, it may also help squeeze the last few non-restricted seats out the door if not pushing the button means a season of sitting behind a pillar in the Main Stand.

Quoted from Croxton

If you log into 'Tickets', 'my account', 'my details', you will see that there is a 'loyalty score'. Don't know for sure how it is calibrated but my current score is 230.

So, a potential tool for a fair system.

The loyalty points for last season are essentially useless as it only accounts for tickets that were sold on our OS. I did 14 away matches I think it was and I'd hazard a guess that only about half of the tickets for those were bought through Town with the rest being on other clubs' sites. I think they wanted to implement a system but then realised that due to being in the National League it was basically rendered impossible. Hopefully now that we're back in the EFL and all match day tickets will be bought through Town they can use this system fairly.

Quoted from Poojah

Can anyone recall the final figure from last season? I seem to recall ST’s continued to sell into the season and we cleared 3,300, but I might be wrong.

If that was the case, assuming minimal attrition we should clear 4,500 as we stand. Perhaps an additional 500 new punters might be a stretch, but for context we’ve been averaging 200 new season tickets per day since they went on sale; we’d only need to average 14 per day between now and the 19th July early bird deadline to clear that figure.

It’s not impossible you know.

2021/22 3,250 ST : 2018/19 3,100 ST : 2017/18 2,900 ST : 2016/17 2,800 : 2022/23 5 days sale 2,240 ST Mad.

Quoted from Poojah

There will always be attrition. Illness, changes in financial circumstances, moving away from the area. Those factors are unavoidable, however I imagine by far the biggest reason in recent years has been people simply getting fed up with results, performances and the way the club was being run in general.

That certainly won't apply this season and so I'd expect the renewal rate to be exceptionally high. If the figure last season was indeed 3,370, then I think there's a very realistic chance of 5,000. It should only take a steady trickle of newbies from here on in to achieve that.

Wow.

I think 5000 is eminently achievable when you consider the vast majority will renew and further new ones added as the excitement of the new season begins to ramp up.

Kit launch, and especially new players and further match day improvements announced will all play a part. Fixture list as well - a biggish club first up at home would help with tickets like gold dust.

It is going to be fantastic with so many fans there every home game.

Its almost impossible to think all this excitement is only one year on from you know who leaving. I always said him going would lift the dark cloud hanging over BP but none of us expected this.

Quoted from Poojah

Conversely, it may also help squeeze the last few non-restricted seats out the door if not pushing the button means a season of sitting behind a pillar in the Main Stand.

Ah yes the rarity factor - we are now getting to the point where the utility of a good rises because of its rarity...

Based on the usual renewal rate of 80%… We’d have around 2,650 renewals so over 1,400 new STHs indicates we’re going to pass 4,000 easily.

[tweet]1536257516933455872[/tweet]

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Based on the usual renewal rate of 80%… We’d have around 2,650 renewals so over 1,400 new STHs indicates we’re going to pass 4,000 easily.

I would be shocked if the renewal rate this season wasn't well above 90%. Absolutely no doubt we'll smash 4,000 - only question is whether we can add another 1,000 on top.

We have a fairly large group that pay per game throughout the season. Can’t get season tickets for various reasons. Looks like we’ll struggle for decent seats this year?? We’ve been going our whole lives and never thought we’d be getting worried about availability!

Quoted from Poojah

I would be shocked if the renewal rate this season wasn't well above 90%. Absolutely no doubt we'll smash 4,000 - only question is whether we can add another 1,000 on top.

I would be amazed if it was as low as 80% too.

I think we’re heading for 4,700-4,800 STHs next season.

There looks to be reasonably good availability across the back few rows of the Main Stand and the two extreme ends of the Upper. Beyond that, it’s pretty slim pickings, particularly if you want to sit with a mate.

They’re still selling, that much is for sure.

Since when did selling loads of season tickets get you 3 points on a Saturday?😉

Quoted from GyMariner

We have a fairly large group that pay per game throughout the season. Can’t get season tickets for various reasons. Looks like we’ll struggle for decent seats this year?? We’ve been going our whole lives and never thought we’d be getting worried about availability!

It’s that double edged sword isn’t it where success/feel good brings about an upturn in the commodity. Will the club therefore be forced to push forward any proposals for temporary seating/using osmond (and decreasing away allowance) a lot sooner than first thought.

According to Wikipedia the ground has a capacity of 9052 ( 🤔🫣 ) and with circa 2000 in the osmond and 500 restricted view in the main stand, that potentially leaves an approximate figure of 2-2500, should we sell an amazing 4000, for those that for whatever reason can’t buy a season ticket.

If you didn’t believe it before, this club is going places and those that put the graft in last season have certainly been rewarded for their work.

I think we’ll smash through 4000, and at least get close to 5000. I think we’ll see another big surge towards the end of the month when people are getting paid

Look at the availability I did think we'll get as far as the end of the month, by all accounts there's been a queue outside again today.

Hopefully, there will still be x number of tickets remaining for each game.

Not everybody can afford to be a STH or their circumstances don’t allow them to attend the vast majority of games.

These categories included some exiles, shift-workers, fans who work away sometimes, and fans with care or family commitments. Some fans just want to pick their games as they are not fully-committed as other people are. We should try and accommodate all types of fans with different needs.

We are 2 exiles in York. We purchased 2 STs for next season as it was very difficult last season trying to book 2 tickets together in the UF each game. Especially if you wanted a decent view.

Quoted from ska face

Wonder how many are left before we start getting into “restricted views” territory. That’s always going to hit sales as I can’t see anyone parting with £340 to be permanently lumbered with a restricted view.

Agreed.

For the run of the mill games, that's going to have an impact on any on the day sales too I'd have thought.

Absolutely essential we get those corners filled in with some temp seating ASAP. There's a huge opportunity to get some serious numbers through the gates this season, which would have a list of lasting benefits as long as Gavan Holohan's arm.

There are some games I can't get to because of work, I usually give it to my son but he's now got one for next season. Is there anywhere ST holders can go to pass on/sell there ticket for any games they can't get to??

I’m sure next season, with sales as they stand, if you have a season ticket and a specific match you can’t attend, just advertise it on Facebook and you will sure to sell it for the going price. Can’t believe any season ticket holder will be out of pocket if they miss a few games. Tickets with good views are going to be like gold dust!

Quoted from heppy88

I’m sure next season, with sales as they stand, if you have a season ticket and a specific match you can’t attend, just advertise it on Facebook and you will sure to sell it for the going price. Can’t believe any season ticket holder will be out of pocket if they miss a few games. Tickets with good views are going to be like gold dust!

Hopefully the club have some sort of re sale scheme for ST holders not able to make a game. Not only does that allow us to make sure as many people get in as possible, unless there are EFL rules about it, that means the club can sell that ticket again (effectively selling it twice). It’s all money for the transfer/player wage kitty!

Quoted from heppy88

I’m sure next season, with sales as they stand, if you have a season ticket and a specific match you can’t attend, just advertise it on Facebook and you will sure to sell it for the going price. Can’t believe any season ticket holder will be out of pocket if they miss a few games. Tickets with good views are going to be like gold dust!

Just want to clarify I don’t mean people should profiteer from their ticket. Just sell it yourself for the original value should be pretty easy next season.

Well that's me and me the boy sorted, gotta say after a f@ck about on venuebox I had to ring the club...big praise to the office staff once more, 5 minute call and 2 happy mariners with season tickets again!..

Can an individual legally sell a ticket to another individual, thought there might be some rule against it to help stop hooliganism.

Remind me, who was it who said there wasn't thousands staying away 😜

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

Remind me, who was it who said there wasn't thousands staying away 😜

Yes, some posters now noticeable by their absence!

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

Remind me, who was it who said there wasn't thousands staying away 😜

T.HE. Leech.

I think it’s all been covered but the demand for season tickets and the buzz around the club seems unprecedented and bizarrely, they’ve barely had to campaign for it. Essentially, results and what happened on the pitch is shifting them.

Culturally the club has changed. It’s a fact. Top to bottom. We’ve been told for years that investors didn’t exists, that we’d never shift many season tickets, blah blah…this has all been disproven in the space of a year. The shift in mood, culture, attitudes, progressivenesses and future proofing and planning is actually a sight to be hold.

I’d like to think the previous incumbents are reflecting on what might have been, are able to see what they have done wrong and what has shifted. It’s not just about money, far from it. Sadly, I don’t believe they will, I don’t believe they have it in them or the ability to see it.

I’d hazard that none of the lm were present at all in the last month. The run the club has been on is remarkable and it’s actually genuinely mega to be a town fan right now.

It’ll never always be rosey, Christ, 6 months ago we were dreadful and our manager had to rebuild a team mid way through the season but it’s hard to argue with what has happened since.

It’s a new dawn for the club and whilst we may moan about those new fans, those drifters etc, why shouldn’t they get involved. The club benefits and in the long term, so do we.

What a time to be a town fan. A promotion from no where and a team and club to proud of.

Up the town…

Quoted from aldi_01

I think it’s all been covered but the demand for season tickets and the buzz around the club seems unprecedented and bizarrely, they’ve barely had to campaign for it. Essentially, results and what happened on the pitch is shifting them.

Culturally the club has changed. It’s a fact. Top to bottom. We’ve been told for years that investors didn’t exists, that we’d never shift many season tickets, blah blah…this has all been disproven in the space of a year. The shift in mood, culture, attitudes, progressivenesses and future proofing and planning is actually a sight to be hold.

I’d like to think the previous incumbents are reflecting on what might have been, are able to see what they have done wrong and what has shifted. It’s not just about money, far from it. Sadly, I don’t believe they will, I don’t believe they have it in them or the ability to see it.

I’d hazard that none of the lm were present at all in the last month. The run the club has been on is remarkable and it’s actually genuinely mega to be a town fan right now.

It’ll never always be rosey, Christ, 6 months ago we were dreadful and our manager had to rebuild a team mid way through the season but it’s hard to argue with what has happened since.

It’s a new dawn for the club and whilst we may moan about those new fans, those drifters etc, why shouldn’t they get involved. The club benefits and in the long term, so do we.

What a time to be a town fan. A promotion from no where and a team and club to proud of.

Up the town…

We’ve revalued the product.

I heard a whisper that a certain club with fans that didn't used to like that awful 36 mile journey northeast on the A46 have lost 900 "plastics" at the end of their discount period. Still they need to make room for Derby, Wednesday and Barnsley fans don't they...

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

Hopefully, there will still be x number of tickets remaining for each game.

Not everybody can afford to be a STH or their circumstances don’t allow them to attend the vast majority of games.

These categories included some exiles, shift-workers, fans who work away sometimes, and fans with care or family commitments. Some fans just want to pick their games as they are not fully-committed as other people are. We should try and accommodate all types of fans with different needs.

We are 2 exiles in York. We purchased 2 STs for next season as it was very difficult last season trying to book 2 tickets together in the UF each game. Especially if you wanted a decent view.

I think they should do advance sales for all games throughout the season , for example if you was an exile and knew you was home for certain games and dates you could buy you tickets in august for a game that’s played in April .

I know people don’t always know the schedules that far in advance but it might help a few of those that do .
Also it would bring revenue in advance for the club and help out fans that can only get home for a few games a season

Quoted from grimps

I think they should do advance sales for all games throughout the season , for example if you was an exile and knew you was home for certain games and dates you could buy you tickets in august for a game that’s played in April .

I know people don’t always know the schedules that far in advance but it might help a few of those that do .
Also it would bring revenue in advance for the club and help out fans that can only get home for a few games a season

Certainly should release supposed 'big games' well in advance, such as ones around Christmas/NY or local, well local-ish games this season, against Bradford. Games that people are most likely to be home for/plan to be home for the big games.

Quoted from Mariner_09

Certainly should release supposed 'big games' well in advance, such as ones around Christmas/NY or local, well local-ish games this season, against Bradford. Games that people are most likely to be home for/plan to be home for the big games.

Yeah they don’t even have to print and issue the tickets until near the time , just take the reservations and payments .

Quoted from grimps

I think they should do advance sales for all games throughout the season , for example if you was an exile and knew you was home for certain games and dates you could buy you tickets in august for a game that’s played in April .

I know people don’t always know the schedules that far in advance but it might help a few of those that do .
Also it would bring revenue in advance for the club and help out fans that can only get home for a few games a season

I suppose one of the advantages of the Fenty reich and his one man crusade to destroy the club was that it was easier to get a match day ticket.

Should get some t-shirts printed…

‘From Shîtster to Hipster (In A Season)’

I likened it to a us going down, having a word with ourselves and sitting ourselves in the naughty corner and then coming back to the football league to say sorry and reclaim our space…

17 years to intercourse it up, 1 year to completely renovate the club…

I see Stockport have sold 4,000 season tickets for the first time in their history. Does anyone know what our record is?

Wrexham has sold 5,900 season tickets to date.

Wow, they certainly love their non league football up there don't they.......

I'd be semi amazed if Wrexham don't go up next season. Other moneybags Stockport are out of the way and the squad has had a year to get used to non league.

Quoted from Mariner_09

I'd be semi amazed if Wrexham don't go up next season. Other moneybags Stockport are out of the way and the squad has had a year to get used to non league.

About the only thing I can see stopping them winning the league is Tshimanga knocking in about 50 goals for Chesterfield. Bear in mind he scored 24 before he got injured in December.

Quoted from RonMariner

About the only thing I can see stopping them winning the league is Tshimanga knocking in about 50 goals for Chesterfield. Bear in mind he scored 24 before he got injured in December.

Wrexham have sold out of STs - 6,150. We might yet, not sure at what point we'd stop - just over 5k perhaps...

If Chesterfield can hang on to Tshim and strengthen wisely to give them back-up I think they will be a threat to Wrexham. Notts I can see struggling to make an increased impact compared to this season and I expect Daggers to threaten. Southend and Torquay will be up there. Tank feck we are not in that scrap...

One way to make sure regular away fans get first dibbs at away tickets would be to sell them through our ticket office and keep a note of the season ticket holder that bought them. They then have a list of the regular away fans and can use it to distribute tickets on a fair manner.

We are going to sell out our away allocations for mast games this coming season, so if you bought a ticket to watch us at Crawley on a Tuesday night, it is only fair you get a ticket to the donny game.

Quoted from mimma

One way to make sure regular away fans get first dibbs at away tickets would be to sell them through our ticket office and keep a note of the season ticket holder that bought them. They then have a list of the regular away fans and can use it to distribute tickets on a fair manner.

We are going to sell out our away allocations for mast games this coming season, so if you bought a ticket to watch us at Crawley on a Tuesday night, it is only fair you get a ticket to the donny game.

Or sell only online and utilise a points based system that means only certain fans can log in at certain times. Over the counter needs removing, it’s old hat and too many aren’t able to do that anymore.

As for chesterfield, personally, until then and Wrexham change manager I don’t see either doing much. They’ll be there or there abouts but I don’t rate either…can see Southend finally sorting their excrement and possibly Dagenham.

Who cares, we’re back in the league and shifting season tickets like there’s no tomorrow.

Quoted from mimma

One way to make sure regular away fans get first dibbs at away tickets would be to sell them through our ticket office and keep a note of the season ticket holder that bought them. They then have a list of the regular away fans and can use it to distribute tickets on a fair manner.

We are going to sell out our away allocations for mast games this coming season, so if you bought a ticket to watch us at Crawley on a Tuesday night, it is only fair you get a ticket to the donny game.

Maybe a danger there that season ticket holders will buy tickets on their account for others.

For example. I probably won't go to Sutton away. But I enter the ballot for one of the 500 tickets, get one and have no trouble flogging it. Tick in the box for me and my loyalty points. I do this for the games that I can't make so when it comes to, let's say, Mansfield away where we'll get 1800 tickets I've got a lovely number of bonus points, despite the fact I've not attended any away games up to this point.

I've absolutely no idea how the club can make this fair. If I'm honest I don't think there ever will be fair way. Everything I've seen suggested has both positive and negative aspects. What I do know, with absolute confidence, is that this the club will be delighted this is a headache they're going to have.

Just taken a peek at the Wednesday ticket site to see what I'm missing on my doorstep.

Cut off for early bird prices is 30th June.

Concession price for a panoramic view is £245

Under 11's at £35. £1.92 a game.

Six month payment option

SWFC credit card has 0% interest over £245.

Shows you what a larger ground/ support base can yield by scaling up. We will get there one day. Meanwhile, it's the M180 again for me.

Currently at about 2,850 apparently, with new tickets continuing to sell in good numbers. We look on track to break the 3,000 mark tomorrow or Thursday as things stand, less than two weeks since the play-off final.

Quoted from Poojah

Currently at about 2,850 apparently, with new tickets continuing to sell in good numbers. We look on track to break the 3,000 mark tomorrow or Thursday as things stand, less than two weeks since the play-off final.

Don't expect to walk-up and get a seat in the Pontoon next season...

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Don't expect to walk-up and get a seat in the Pontoon next season...

79 left there now, a majority on the front row. That’s 40 gone since Golly’s post on Sunday afternoon. Less than 30 left in the lower too now. Still a couple of hundred or so in the upper, however well over a third of which are restricted view.

With the rate of sale remaining very steady and the mini-spikes you’d expect come payday and the approach of the early bird deadline, it looks almost certain that getting a non-restricted view on a match day outside the main stand is going to be very unlikely.

Of course, I’m sure we’ll open part of the Osmond whenever away followings allow, so there’s always that to take into account too.

Quoted from Poojah

79 left there now, a majority on the front row. That’s 40 gone since Golly’s post on Sunday afternoon. Less than 30 left in the lower too now. Still a couple of hundred or so in the upper, however well over a third of which are restricted view.

With the rate of sale remaining very steady and the mini-spikes you’d expect come payday and the approach of the early bird deadline, it looks almost certain that getting a non-restricted view on a match day outside the main stand is going to be very unlikely.

Of course, I’m sure we’ll open part of the Osmond whenever away followings allow, so there’s always that to take into account too.

This concept of a non-restricted view in the Main Stand always makes me laugh. I accept some are worse than others but all seats in the Main Stand have restricted viewing. Mine isn’t restricted viewing and I’ve missed that many goals, penalty incidents, hand balls, tackles, missed shots and saves behind one post it’s ridiculous. Sometimes the only way I know if it’s a goal is by the rest of the ground’s reaction! I don’t know if others have this experience!

In all seriousness though, it looks like it’s going to be tough going getting a match day ticket in anywhere but the Main Stand, especially as we’ll have to give up the whole Osmond to more away teams this season.

Quoted from Mariner_09

This concept of a non-restricted view in the Main Stand always makes me laugh. I accept some are worse than others but all seats in the Main Stand have restricted viewing. Mine isn’t restricted viewing and I’ve missed that many goals, penalty incidents, hand balls, tackles, missed shots and saves behind one post it’s ridiculous. Sometimes the only way I know if it’s a goal is by the rest of the ground’s reaction! I don’t know if others have this experience!

In all seriousness though, it looks like it’s going to be tough going getting a match day ticket in anywhere but the Main Stand, especially as we’ll have to give up the whole Osmond to more away teams this season.

Do we have to give up the whole of the Osmond? What are the rules about minimum away seats out of curiosity?

Even Mansfield and Northampton who are relatively well supported and relatively close geographically have historically struggled to fill the Osmond. There are very few games we would have to give it all up I think.

Quoted from mariner91

Northampton who are relatively well supported and relatively close geographically have historically struggled to fill the Osmond.

Northampton is relatively close geographically when compared with Madrid

Quoted from Poojah

Currently at about 2,850 apparently, with new tickets continuing to sell in good numbers. We look on track to break the 3,000 mark tomorrow or Thursday as things stand, less than two weeks since the play-off final.

I was wrong.

https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1536684868100399106

I think the Osmond needs properly segregating so away clubs get either the corner or the main section but not both.

With segregation the corner is about 500 seats & the main section is about 1,300 isn’t it? 500 is enough for the majority of clubs in L2 next season. Stockport, Bradford and Doncaster are the only ones who would definitely need the larger section and maybe Mansfield & Tranmere depending when those fixtures fall.

Any knowledge as to why we don’t have seats in the corner between the main stand and the Osmond stand?

Quoted from GollyGTFC

I think the Osmond needs properly segregating so away clubs get either the corner or the main section but not both.

With segregation the corner is about 500 seats & the main section is about 1,300 isn’t it? 500 is enough for the majority of clubs in L2 next season. Stockport, Bradford and Doncaster are the only ones who would definitely need the larger section and maybe Mansfield & Tranmere depending when those fixtures fall.

That would be ideal then for match-by-match tickets, wouldn't it? Obviously we couldn't sell them as season tickets, unless we say the main section is 1300 away fans and that's it.

Quoted from WetFlannel

Any knowledge as to why we don’t have seats in the corner between the main stand and the Osmond stand?

thats the big stone steps isnt it?

i would assume due to segregation

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

That would be ideal then for match-by-match tickets, wouldn't it? Obviously we couldn't sell them as season tickets, unless we say the main section is 1300 away fans and that's it.

They could sell STs for behind the goal with an alternative seat designated in the corner for games where away fans take the main section?

Quoted from Hagrid

thats the big stone steps isnt it?

i would assume due to segregation

The terracing in the corner wasn’t replaced in 1995 and is unsuitable for seats isn’t it? The terracing on the old Osmond End standing section was completely replaced at the same time as the Pontoon when the Taylor Report was implemented at BP.

How many season tickets can we sell is it worked out by stand or overall capacity l. Apologies if this has been answered already. Have we ever sold out of season tickets ?

Quoted from sapper mariner

How many season tickets can we sell is it worked out by stand or overall capacity l. Apologies if this has been answered already. Have we ever sold out of season tickets ?

I’ve often wondered this, what is our limit? In my life time I’ve never know this demand for tickets, even in 98.

We have to give a minimum of 10% of Capacity so approximatly 800.

                                Average Away Fans
AFC Wimbledon 535
Barrow                  344
Bradford                  856
Carlisle                  522
Colchester          261
Crawley                 143
Crewe                 380
Doncaster         552
Gillingham         470
Harrogate         147
Hartlepool         531
Leyton Orient         433
Mansfield                 718
Newport Co         391
Northampton         556
Rochdale                 428
Salford                 157
Stevenage         140
Stockport                 Do Not Know ?
Sutton Utd         215
Swindon                 827
Tranmere                 709
Walsall                 534

Quoted from Grimsby69

We have to give a minimum of 10% of Capacity so approximatly 800.

                                Average Away Fans
AFC Wimbledon 535
Barrow                  344
Bradford                  856
Carlisle                  522
Colchester          261
Crawley                 143
Crewe                 380
Doncaster         552
Gillingham         470
Harrogate         147
Hartlepool         531
Leyton Orient         433
Mansfield                 718
Newport Co         391
Northampton         556
Rochdale                 428
Salford                 157
Stevenage         140
Stockport                 Do Not Know ?
Sutton Utd         215
Swindon                 827
Tranmere                 709
Walsall                 534

I reckon We’ve averaged more than all of those away for as long as I can remember , Bradford’s is crap when you compare it to their home attendances .
It just goes to show how good our fans are , nobody travels like we do

Just for the sake of comparison, an average attendance of 3k would be better than 8 teams who were in this division last year.

I’m now absolutely convinced we’ll exceed 5,000 season tickets. Some rough maths to illustrate the point.

Yesterday we announced around 2,500 sold, of which 1,400 were new. If we’ve now sold 3,000, then it’s almost certain that at least half of those are new.

That would mean only 1,500 of our existing season ticket holders have renewed so far, meaning around 1,700 are still to do so. If every existing holder renewed that would take us to 4,700.

Whilst it’s unrealistic that EVERYONE renews, it will only be a very small number in my opinion. Possibly not even 3 figures. If we assume we need a further 400 new season tickets to reach the magic figure, we would only need to average 17 per working day in order do so. Current estimate is that we’re doing about 100 per day as it stands.

We’ll smash it.

https://mobile.twitter.com/mark_stilton/status/1536695226965835777/photo/1

Quoted from grimps

I reckon We’ve averaged more than all of those away for as long as I can remember , Bradford’s is crap when you compare it to their home attendances .
It just goes to show how good our fans are , nobody travels like we do

We’ll average 1000-1250 away fans next season, whether we can get any higher because of away capacities at some venues, plus will plod limit us at certain venues? Someone posted a list of away capacities on Twitter last week and apart from a few (2000 at Crawley, 3500 at Rochdale, 2000 at Colchester, maybe 2500 at Tranmere and 1000 at Newport), we’ll sell out at the majority of places.

my O Level maths says that GTFC has taken c.£1million pounds in about a week. Unbelievable.

hope they've ordered lots and lots of new shirts!

Quoted from Poojah

I’m now absolutely convinced we’ll exceed 5,000 season tickets. Some rough maths to illustrate the point.

Yesterday we announced around 2,500 sold, of which 1,400 were new. If we’ve now sold 3,000, then it’s almost certain that at least half of those are new.

That would mean only 1,500 of our existing season ticket holders have renewed so far, meaning around 1,700 are still to do so. If every existing holder renewed that would take us to 4,700.

Whilst it’s unrealistic that EVERYONE renews, it will only be a very small number in my opinion. Possibly not even 3 figures. If we assume we need a further 400 new season tickets to reach the magic figure, we would only need to average 17 per working day in order do so. Current estimate is that we’re doing about 100 per day as it stands.

We’ll smash it.

Well for what it’s worth I’ve just paid for my OAP mum and my junior nephew to go get a couple tomorrow and That’ll be the first season tickets in the family for 30 years.
I live abroad now so will only be able to make 3-4 games if I’m lucky , I’m hoping I’ll be able to use the OAP ticket if the grounds sold out 😂
Also a good chance of a ticket for any away days over the Xmas period when I’m home

Quoted from forza ivano

my O Level maths says that GTFC has taken c.£1million pounds in about a week. Unbelievable.

hope they've ordered lots and lots of new shirts!

When are the new shirts out ?

Quoted from Poojah

I’m now absolutely convinced we’ll exceed 5,000 season tickets. Some rough maths to illustrate the point.

Yesterday we announced around 2,500 sold, of which 1,400 were new. If we’ve now sold 3,000, then it’s almost certain that at least half of those are new.

That would mean only 1,500 of our existing season ticket holders have renewed so far, meaning around 1,700 are still to do so. If every existing holder renewed that would take us to 4,700.

Whilst it’s unrealistic that EVERYONE renews, it will only be a very small number in my opinion. Possibly not even 3 figures. If we assume we need a further 400 new season tickets to reach the magic figure, we would only need to average 17 per working day in order do so. Current estimate is that we’re doing about 100 per day as it stands.

We’ll smash it.

Important point here - the right to renew an existing ST is now a valuable asset - anyone who hasn't renewed and is in two minds only has to look at the stadium plan to see the alternative - feck all availability. The scarcity of good seats now means existing ST holders need to preserve their asset, if the ST is not renewed that seats could be gone for years on 20 July.

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Important point here - the right to renew an existing ST is now a valuable asset - anyone who hasn't renewed and is in two minds only has to look at the stadium plan to see the alternative - feck all availability. The scarcity of good seats now means existing ST holders need to preserve their asset, if the ST is not renewed that seats could be gone for years on 20 July.

Whilst I was going to renew anyway, this has definitely got my backside into gear. Feels like this is the moment you need to be securing a seat for the future. Lots more to come.

Going to be a STH for the first time in 5 years. With the nature of my work and likely to be working away a lot, my ticket may become free which I don’t mind selling on for a fraction of the price. Just when I am home will be able to secure a seat to make sure that our boys know they have been well backed after what can only be described as a gargantuan effort in them playoffs.

Quoted from louth_in_the_south

When are the new shirts out ?

early July i think. Hopefully they've got a snazzy marketing campaign to coincide with the launch at the same time as a major new signing; imagine Ryan Bennett being pictured with the new shirt as he signs on the dotted line (well i can dream can't i?) 8) 8)

Limerick Mariner makes a good point about not losing your seat by failing to renew by July 19th. I have renewed mine by using the bacs numbers given in my renewal letter. I also knocked off 5% discount as a mariners trust member. Has anyone doing it this way received an email saying it’s been accepted or received their season ticket through the post? I’d hate to think it’d get to July 20th and I’m assuming it’ll be on its way and for whatever reason it doesn’t come and I’ve lost my seat.

If we assume there’s still a thousand season ticket holders who haven’t renewed we’ll be pushing 4.5k.

Not bad when you consider we were told by acolytes and the idiots who ran the club (in to the ground) that there wasn’t anyone staying away and the discontent came from a handful of people our immature and petulant previous owner referred to as ‘fishy friends’…

Anyone seen anything of them?

Quoted from forza ivano

my O Level maths says that GTFC has taken c.£1million pounds in about a week. Unbelievable.

hope they've ordered lots and lots of new shirts!

The VAT man will be happy .

What a pity !

Quoted from aldi_01

If we assume there’s still a thousand season ticket holders who haven’t renewed we’ll be pushing 4.5k.

Not bad when you consider we were told by acolytes and the idiots who ran the club (in to the ground) that there wasn’t anyone staying away and the discontent came from a handful of people our immature and petulant previous owner referred to as ‘fishy friends’…

Anyone seen anything of them?

I'm starting to get the impression that you were not a fan of Fenty

I know it’s a bit reductive to look at the whole scenario purely in financial terms, but this must come as a big boost to the club and owners. Going up probably means about another million quid or so before a ball is kicked. Season tickets look to be up 33% which is a massive increase on the face of it, away attendances are going to more than double and you’re looking at 1k plus in the away end maybe once a month. Commercial and sponsorship revenue must also be getting a good boost. Good to see

Quoted from aldi_01

If we assume there’s still a thousand season ticket holders who haven’t renewed we’ll be pushing 4.5k.

Not bad when you consider we were told by acolytes and the idiots who ran the club (in to the ground) that there wasn’t anyone staying away and the discontent came from a handful of people our immature and petulant previous owner referred to as ‘fishy friends’…

Anyone seen anything of them?

Still around 1,500 existing season ticket holders to renew (myself included ‘cos I’m lazy). As pointed out above, letting your seat go now is waving goodbye to a decent seat for the foreseeable and so for that reason, added to the brilliant end to our season, I think we’ll see absolutely minuscule attrition.

We’ll go through 5,000 and beyond.

Quoted from Poojah

Still around 1,500 existing season ticket holders to renew (mused included ‘cos I’m lazy). As pointed out above, letting your seat go now is waving goodbye to a decent seat for the foreseeable and so for that reason, added to the brilliant end to our season, I think we’ll see absolutely minuscule attrition.

We’ll go through 5,000 and beyond.

I'm sure you're right. I do hope we put a buy back scheme in place for those season ticket holders who cannot make a particular game - I would ecstatic if we sold 5000 season tickets but for me the main pleasure is seeing the ground full. I hope all those tickets are utilised on match days.

The very idea we are hoping 5k season ticket holders turn up is mind boggling.

It’s hard to judge how our now displaced leader will feel after seeing what’s happening at the club. Can’t put gifs on here but the thought of all these season tickets being sold, reminds me of when sideshow bob walks on loads of rakes in the Simpsons

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

It’s hard to judge how our now displaced leader will feel after seeing what’s happening at the club. Can’t put gifs on here but the thought of all these season tickets being sold, reminds me of when sideshow bob walks on loads of rakes in the Simpsons

In the space of 2 years the structure , atmosphere and success of the club has been phenomenal. The Leech showed us how not to run a football club whereas we now have , allegedly "tyre kicker" , owners who clearly know how to run a football club based on a modern interactive approach. Long may it continue.

Tickets still going fast, particularly in the Pontoon. I think that and the lower will be done by the middle of next week, if not sooner.

Be handy if the All Town Aren’t We site could rig their little ticket sake counter thingy up to ST’s…

https://www.alltownarentwe.co.uk/

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I'm sure you're right. I do hope we put a buy back scheme in place for those season ticket holders who cannot make a particular game - I would ecstatic if we sold 5000 season tickets but for me the main pleasure is seeing the ground full. I hope all those tickets are utilised on match days.

The very idea we are hoping 5k season ticket holders turn up is mind boggling.

Agreed. I was critical of the approach the club took regards the re-sale for the Stockport tickets, but fully accepted that it was something thrown together at the last minute. But the need for a good, solid and fair system is going to be needed this year.

Just on this thread alone there's countless of season tickets bought with the acceptance that not all games will be attended. It would be a crying shame to see waves of seats unoccupied for games.

Quoted from diehardmariner

Agreed. I was critical of the approach the club took regards the re-sale for the Stockport tickets, but fully accepted that it was something thrown together at the last minute. But the need for a good, solid and fair system is going to be needed this year.

Just on this thread alone there's countless of season tickets bought with the acceptance that not all games will be attended. It would be a crying shame to see waves of seats unoccupied for games.

There will be a resale operation - there has to be now. As an 1878 exile I hope I'll get a priority period - I'll be relying on those resales for the games I can get to. There won't be alot of choice otherwise - apart from singles and very back rows or front row seats its 3 blocks in the whole ground with reasonable availability - 150 or so in A of the Upper (expect those could nearly all go) and G and H in the Main - that's your lot. Amazing...

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

There will be a resale operation - there has to be now. As an 1878 exile I hope I'll get a priority period - I'll be relying on those resales for the games I can get to. There won't be alot of choice otherwise - apart from singles and very back rows or front row seats its 3 blocks in the whole ground with reasonable availability - 150 or so in A of the Upper (expect those could nearly all go) and G and H in the Main - that's your lot. Amazing...

For many games the Osmond will be utilised. This may not meet the demand, but at least those who (have) to pick and chose their games will have a fighting chance for a ticket.

We should do what Wrexham (and other teams) did last season, they allocated/segrigate off 1200 seats for away fans only. We should do the same, give half the Osmond to away fans and sell the other half to home fans (No season tickets) each game.
There must be a buy back as well, don't thing it should be cash. Credit towards cup/away tickets perhaps?

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1537428804255236096

bettered last seasons near record total in just over a week. Looking forward to Mark Stilton's new graph!

There still seem to be good numbers of ‘new’ sales going through. At least another 200 this week, on top of the 1,500 we already new about. I think we might be at 5,000 - pending renewals by early next week.

Only 40 left in the Pontoon, 14 in the lower and now fewer than 200 in the upper, many of which are restricted view. Get in quickly if you don’t fancy sitting in the Main Stand.

As an aside had anyone else noticed that Jordan Maguire Drew appears to have the face and name of Danny Amos tattooed on his right leg.

Such a strong bond in this group.

https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1537428804255236096

Quoted from Poojah

As an aside had anyone else noticed that Jordan Maguire Drew appears to have the face and name of Danny Amos tattooed on his right leg.

Such a strong bond in this group.

https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1537428804255236096

From his twitter photos it looks like it says 'Amortised'.

Presumably JMD struggles to remember the length of his contract, so he inks parts of his body to represent what proportion of his contract is written down. He's 25% of the way through the current contract so he's tatted up his right leg and right nipple for now (left leg is more valuable).

Not sure what he's going to do if he renews or leaves us. Guess he'll just refer to Transfermarkt like the rest of us. Less painful in the long run.

Quoted from sapper mariner

How many season tickets can we sell is it worked out by stand or overall capacity l. Apologies if this has been answered already. Have we ever sold out of season tickets ?

10% of capacity for away fans, 15% of capacity for match day sales, so 75% of capacity can be season ticket sales, our away end does not allow us to maximize this tho.

The away corner holds 600 and the Osmond holds 1600 which in total is 2200.

How many teams are going to fill the whole away end next season?

What we need to segregate the away end so that the total is 950, which will give additional 1150 tickets available to home supporters.

If the demand is their will need to look at ways of making sure, we can maximize.

Quoted from The Yard Dog

10% of capacity for away fans, 15% of capacity for match day sales, so 75% of capacity can be season ticket sales, our away end does not allow us to maximize this tho.

The away corner holds 600 and the Osmond holds 1600 which in total is 2200.

How many teams are going to fill the whole away end next season?

What we need to segregate the away end so that the total is 950, which will give additional 1150 tickets available to home supporters.

If the demand is their will need to look at ways of making sure, we can maximize.

Don't think it would be that easy. In terms of segregation you're going to lose some seats and also minimum facilities available underneath the stand may mean you can't simply draw a line down the Osmond for where the cut off is for away fans.

They really need to look at getting some seats in the corners again.

Quoted from Mikey_345

Don't think it would be that easy. In terms of segregation you're going to lose some seats and also minimum facilities available underneath the stand may mean you can't simply draw a line down the Osmond for where the cut off is for away fans.

Although it would mean less seats for us home fans the corner would probably be easier to give to us as we found use the Main stand facilities

It’s going to look daft if there are 750-1000 empty seats in the Osmond but there are fans spilling out the doors of the ticket office unable to get tickets for home games.

Of the 3400 season tickets now sold it would be interesting to know how many are new STs and how much cash this has generated

Quoted from Mikey_345

Don't think it would be that easy. In terms of segregation you're going to lose some seats and also minimum facilities available underneath the stand may mean you can't simply draw a line down the Osmond for where the cut off is for away fans.

Fair enough but we should be able to have home fans in the corner when away fans are in the osmond end as we can do it vice versa no problem. That would solve the issue as we would be giving 10% to visiting fans but still giving home fans as much chance to buy a ticket as possible. This is dependent on us actually needing those 500-600 seats in the corner for home fans in games against teams with big followings, but I actually think we will - which is great news!

Quoted from SuperJoeyWaters

Of the 3400 season tickets now sold it would be interesting to know how many are new STs and how much cash this has generated

From a rough estimate, working backwards from the 1,400 newbies quoted the other day keeping an eye on seat availability, it’s about 50/50 (if not a little bit in favour of new tickets).

A season ticket is a big commitment, not only financially but in terms of time throughout the season. This really is astonishing.

Quoted from toontown

Fair enough but we should be able to have home fans in the corner when away fans are in the osmond end as we can do it vice versa no problem. That would solve the issue as we would be giving 10% to visiting fans but still giving home fans as much chance to buy a ticket as possible. This is dependent on us actually needing those 500-600 seats in the corner for home fans in games against teams with big followings, but I actually think we will - which is great news!

It will be interesting to see how the club tackle the problem (what a problem to have - finding extra home seats!) and whether they go for temporary stands in the corners, reconfigure the Osmond to reduce the away capacity, or indeed both. Imagine if we get off to a decent start, or have a stellar signing, the demand will go through the roof.

It’s pretty easy to look at L2 and see which clubs will bring 600+ . For those games that won’t just make them all e-ticket and stick them in the corner , giving the main bulk of seats in the osmond to walk ups.

You’re looking at 500+ from Bradford, probably Carlisle, Donny, Hartlepool, maybe Orient, Mansfield, Northampton, Stockport, Swindon & Tranmere. The rest should have the away fans stuck in the corner & Osmond opened up as early as possible.

Not sure you’d get more than 500 from Carlisle and Swindon. At maximum it’s going to be 7-8 games we have to give up the whole Osmond to away fans.

Quoted from ska face

You’re looking at 500+ from Bradford, probably Carlisle, Donny, Hartlepool, maybe Orient, Mansfield, Northampton, Stockport, Swindon & Tranmere. The rest should have the away fans stuck in the corner & Osmond opened up as early as possible.

Doubtful for orient I would think unless doing very well. Not convinced about hartlepool either but maybe their away support has grown with a promotion winning season in the National league

Not sure how they currently segregate it but it should be simple enough to extend our home allocation to the Osmond corner and just use the main stand access/facilities adding another 600 tickets to general sale every game.

You can pretty much guarantee that Gillingham, Crawley, Salford, Newport, Stevenage, Colchester, Harrogate, Wimbledon, Rochdale, Sutton and Barrow won't bring anywhere close to 500. Of the others only Bradford, Donny, Mansfield and Stockport would be guaranteed to bring more than that. The other teams may or may not depending on how well they're doing and if the game is midweek or not. But realistically you'd expect at least half the games would have so few away fans that putting home fans one side of the Osmond wouldn't be an issue.

and here it is - the latest graph , still looking like
a NASA rocket launch
https://twitter.com/mark_stilton/status/1537522439680401408

One thing's for sure, unless the owners put their thinking caps on, there's going to be a lot of disappointed fans this coming campaign.
Should we make a good start, or sign a hair on the back of your neck striker, they will be scaling the fences to get in, Rourke's Drift will seem like a Sunday school outing.

Imagine having to get a ticket in the away end of your home team's ground!

Quoted from Mariner_09

Not sure you’d get more than 500 from Carlisle and Swindon. At maximum it’s going to be 7-8 games we have to give up the whole Osmond to away fans.

But we do not have to give the whole Osmond to away fans just because they have a bigger following. Limit them to 600 and let home fans have the rest every game.

Seems a crazy idea, but can’t we make every home game ‘all ticket’ for away fans. And request any unsold be sent same day courier 72 hours before the game. Selling the tickets a section at a time (like Barnet?) so that the club can then alter the segregation and make tickets available 48 hours before the game

Quoted from forza ivano

and here it is - the latest graph , still looking like
a NASA rocket launch
https://twitter.com/mark_stilton/status/1537522439680401408

Looks like the graph needs more lines at the top as it only accommodates for 3,500. With 5.000 being feasible it needs adjusting. Just shows how positive ownership can transform a club in one season.

Quoted from DB

Looks like the graph needs more lines at the top as it only accommodates for 3,500. With 5.000 being feasible it needs adjusting. Just shows how positive ownership can transform a club in one season.

Remember when we were confidently told that there weren’t stay fans or new folk to tap in to?

On away fans, I think we’re probably over thinking and in truth, even with the number of STHs, I’m not sure we need to worry. There’s probably 8 teams max. that will bring more than 500, with some sensible segregation I don’t see why the osmond can’t be used by town fans almost every game, if necessary…

I think another discussion worth having is the away ticket allocations for town fans. This season we saw occasions which have never really happened before in that not all STHs were able to get their hands on a ticket. I know it’s happened in the past but only very rarely, next season we could see it happen more often which is why I hope they’ve begun to look at ways to try and combat some of the issues.

I know when Lincoln saw a surge in numbers that translates to away games too, a very good friend who is a STH but an exile found it increasingly difficult to grab a ticket yet had been to a large number of away games in the previous years, he understood the concept of supply and demand but i can see his frustration.

I’ve been lucky in that if I’ve wanted a ticket for away games where numbers are limited I’ve managed to get one, others weren’t so lucky and I guess it’s important to try and find a way of addressing that. I’m sure they are and right now, shifting tickets is integral but it’s something to think about.

We talk about limiting numbers for away fans at BP but moan when others do it to us. We have to be mindful of the fact I don’t think there will be many grounds that give us more than 2000. We’re likely to get about 1500 tops for most away games, I suspect that’ll be enough for most but the likes of Bradford, Salford, Rochdale, Harrogate and Mansfield will see that bun fight again…fixtures permitting of course.

Quoted from forza ivano

and here it is - the latest graph , still looking like
a NASA rocket launch
https://twitter.com/mark_stilton/status/1537522439680401408

Reminds me of Covid Utd a couple of years ago . What happened to them ? Relegated by Monkey Pox I guess..........😊

Quoted from It Bites

Reminds me of Covid Utd a couple of years ago . What happened to them ? Relegated by Monkey Pox I guess..........😊

Must have had Cheater in charge

We’re gonna need a bigger boat!

Quoted from jimgtfc

We’re gonna need a bigger boat!

We've continued to sell to new shipmates...

I make it 173 seats in the whole of the Findus (MyEnergi?) including restricteds and 27 on the Pontoon - so 200 seats out of about 4300 available (excluding Block D of the Upper) in those 2 stands committed. eThe Main is well over half sold so with zero attrition we are already in excess of 5k seats committed. As the seats that come free from non-renewals will be much better located than what is available now they will sell even without the discount. What is the club going to do - just carry on selling, will any other club in the EFL have so few home match tickets available for walk-ups?

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Seems a crazy idea, but can’t we make every home game ‘all ticket’ for away fans. And request any unsold be sent same day courier 72 hours before the game. Selling the tickets a section at a time (like Barnet?) so that the club can then alter the segregation and make tickets available 48 hours before the game

I would really rather not go down this route. As much as the principal works.

We’ve been the first to moan about away games becoming more difficult by the season… Let’s not put people in the same boat.

All great problems to have though

Quoted from bradzmilne

I would really rather not go down this route. As much as the principal works.

We’ve been the first to moan about away games becoming more difficult by the season… Let’s not put people in the same boat.

All great problems to have though

Every game will be all-ticket for away fans - absolutely nailed on. The key question is what will be the maximum allocation for away fans. The games with big away followings - Donny, Bradford, Mansfield and Stockport (if the latter two are doing well), will be the game with the biggest home demand as well, which will now be way above supply. I'm not sure the Barnet approach works with the Osmond anyway - I think it has to be an allocation of circa 1200 or 600. If 1200 then Town fans can go in the Main corner, if 600 Town fans can go in the Osmond proper behind the goal.

Bought mine today and guy in the ticket office said they were expecting season ticket sales of circa 4500 so interesting how many seats are currently unavailable and probably indicates that a number of renewals remain outstanding awaiting payday most likely.

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Every game will be all-ticket for away fans - absolutely nailed on. The key question is what will be the maximum allocation for away fans. The games with big away followings - Donny, Bradford, Mansfield and Stockport (if the latter two are doing well), will be the game with the biggest home demand as well, which will now be way above supply. I'm not sure the Barnet approach works with the Osmond anyway - I think it has to be an allocation of circa 1200 or 600. If 1200 then Town fans can go in the Main corner, if 600 Town fans can go in the Osmond proper behind the goal.

Absolutely this if away fans can go in the corner then so can 500 town fans
OR
temporary seating in a corner needs to be available

Unless the demand plummets dramatically once the 4 or 5k factor has been reached, which I don't think will happen

Has anybody purchased their season ticket using the option to pay over 4 months yet? Is this available to do in the ticket office or only online?

Quoted from Mighty_Mariner

Has anybody purchased their season ticket using the option to pay over 4 months yet? Is this available to do in the ticket office or only online?

You can’t do it online - has to be in club shop or via phone

Hang on a mo, a few years back when our fanbase virtually trebled overnight, didn’t you accuse us all of being plastics?

Is it somehow different, now you’ve had a bit of success?

Quoted from NorfolkImp

Hang on a mo, a few years back when our fanbase virtually trebled overnight, didn’t you accuse us all of being plastics?

Is it somehow different, now you’ve had a bit of success?

Yes.

Quoted from NorfolkImp

Hang on a mo, a few years back when our fanbase virtually trebled overnight, didn’t you accuse us all of being plastics?

Is it somehow different, now you’ve had a bit of success?

It's not success, it's the fact the club has become one with community again....under the old regime, regardless of promotion, you wouldn't have seen fans retuning the way they have...
So no, not plastic fans, true fans who now believe in the club once again.

Quoted from NorfolkImp

Hang on a mo, a few years back when our fanbase virtually trebled overnight, didn’t you accuse us all of being plastics?

Is it somehow different, now you’ve had a bit of success?

Yeah, we will get some glory hoppers, it's inevitable, but I think it is more of a return of disgruntled fans than it is anything else. We always had a hard core 4000 whatever happened on the pitch.

Yourselves went from one extreme to the other. Crowds in the 2000's before the Cowleys and over 10000 when at your peak, due to promotion but more down to your excellent cup run and the TV exposure it brought.

Don't get me wrong, what was achieved at Lincoln was astonishing is such a short space of time and I admit to being a little envious, but not so much at your rise, but the way the club was being run compared to ours.

We too are now being run much more professionally and the promotion is just the unexpected icing on the cake for me. I was one of those that gave up buying a season ticket because of disillusionment, but like many others, I have now gone back to having one and that would have happened with or without the return to the league. I know many others who have returned for the same reason.

I hope we are playing you in League 1 next season.

Quoted from NorfolkImp

Hang on a mo, a few years back when our fanbase virtually trebled overnight, didn’t you accuse us all of being plastics?

Is it somehow different, now you’ve had a bit of success?

Our gates have stayed very good wherever we have been, they are not plastics just because they are getting season tickets

Quoted from NorfolkImp

Hang on a mo, a few years back when our fanbase virtually trebled overnight, didn’t you accuse us all of being plastics?

Is it somehow different, now you’ve had a bit of success?

But our attendances haven't trebled. Certainly not in the space of a few months on the back of an excellent cup run and winning a league.

Your fans and you included (you were definitely going on about Man City and only Man City for a long time ;D ) abandoned your club. You had a league game with fewer than 1500 at it and brought a pathetic 400 or so to BP for a match on a bank holiday. Even now after the most sustained period of success your club has ever had you're down 1000 season ticket holders from last season because you lost more games than you won.

I was envious of the way your club was being run. It really was a blue print for how to maximise the feel good factor from a cup run and a promotion. The engagement with the community was also second to none. But as a fanbase, three quarters of you weren't there at all when you were crap. So the vast majority are indeed plastic.

Quoted from NorfolkImp

Hang on a mo, a few years back when our fanbase virtually trebled overnight, didn’t you accuse us all of being plastics?

Is it somehow different, now you’ve had a bit of success?

Imagine comparing Grimsby's fanbase to Lincoln. Hilarious.

Quoted from Plankton

Imagine comparing Grimsby's fanbase to Lincoln. Hilarious.

What’s hilarious about taking less than 13k to a Cup Final with the prize of EFL football for the winner, compared to 29k to a tinpot let’s boycott the Johnstone’s Paint thingy Final?

Chortle, titter, etc?

Quoted from NorfolkImp

What’s hilarious about taking less than 13k to a Cup Final with the prize of EFL football for the winner, compared to 29k to a tinpot let’s boycott the Johnstone’s Paint thingy Final?

Chortle, titter, etc?

That’s a very good point about the trophy final, where are they now?

Quoted from NorfolkImp

What’s hilarious about taking less than 13k to a Cup Final with the prize of EFL football for the winner, compared to 29k to a tinpot let’s boycott the Johnstone’s Paint thingy Final?

Chortle, titter, etc?

What’s hilarious is a grown man, who was a Man City fan when Lincoln were shite, spending virtually every day even in the off season on another club’s message board. You’ve posted on here almost 3000 times, never with anything constructive or interesting. It’s only ever barbs about how massive Lincoln are, conveniently forgetting you’ve spent all but the last 5 years below us and with a much smaller fanbase.

I would bet a serious amount of money that collectively the Town fans on here haven’t posted that many times on all other team’s message boards combined let alone on just one. Get a life you absolute loser. It’s a Saturday ffs, do something constructive with your time.

Quoted from mariner91

What’s hilarious is a grown man, who was a Man City fan when Lincoln were shite, .

This. I've been mostly lurking on boards in recent years, always interested in the goings on of the local clubs and i clearly remember his flounce off the Lincoln board, he'd had enough of the excrement and it was City only from then on.
Enter the Cowley's😁

Quoted from NorfolkImp

What’s hilarious about taking less than 13k to a Cup Final with the prize of EFL football for the winner, compared to 29k to a tinpot let’s boycott the Johnstone’s Paint thingy Final?

Chortle, titter, etc?

Jubilee weekend at an unfancied stadium in the middle of a financial crisis on top of previous 2 away games just to get to the final. I'm amazed we took 13000 to be honest.

For Lincoln, it was a novelty, never having graced the big stage before. We took similar numbers for our first visits (plural).

You may get there as many times as we have eventually and the novelty will wear off for the plastics.

In other news 3,600 now sold. 19 left in the Pontoon and 10 in the Lower.

https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1538074419477741569

Quoted from Poojah

In other news 3,600 now sold. 19 left in the Pontoon and 10 in the Lower.

https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1538074419477741569

I'm amazed the entire Pontoon has sold out. It's fantastic.

Quoted from NorfolkImp

What’s hilarious about taking less than 13k to a Cup Final with the prize of EFL football for the winner, compared to 29k to a tinpot let’s boycott the Johnstone’s Paint thingy Final?

Chortle, titter, etc?

You’re not telling us how big your tackle is, you don’t have to add on 10%.

The breakdown from your first visit to Wembley was 41,000 made up of 12,500 Shrewsbury fans, 26,500 Lincoln and 2,000 sponsors, VIPs, charity, suits etc…

Coincidentally we took 30,500 to Wembley on our first visit in 1998. Google it.

It seem ridiculously pessimistic for GTFC to estimating 4.5k. That would mean 600+ attrition of existing STHs, unless I’m missing something?

Quoted from NorfolkImp

What’s hilarious about taking less than 13k to a Cup Final with the prize of EFL football for the winner, compared to 29k to a tinpot let’s boycott the Johnstone’s Paint thingy Final?

Chortle, titter, etc?

23k at the rip off London stadium - highest attendance since our Bristol Rovers final, at £50 a ticket, no trains, chronic shortage of bus drivers. Our official number was just under 14k - which is amazing. Solihull had 6k - a lot more than Forest Green.

think you'll find that it was more like 15,000+ in the end on a Jubile weekend Sunday with no rail travel and v. little chance of getting a hotel ,with sky high London rates being tripled for that weekend.
Gate was 23,000 -2,000 neutrals (at best) ,6000 Solihull = 15,000 Town

It was definitely much more than 13k you only had to look at our end compared to Solihulls end to tell that.

Norfolk Imp was born in Grimsby but raised in Lincoln and a devoted Imp til Man City got the oil money then he started chasing silver with them. Enter the Cowley boys and he returned to bask in the Imps remarkable upsurge in fortune . He is a very knowledgeable lower league football fan and a top WUM however he has a very selective memory when it comes to certain things . This chap needs to do some research and very quickly on what’s going on with GTFC off the pitch . In real terms we have had an hardcore of 4K fans with another 4-5k dormant . This fan base was never tapped into by the previous board and LCFC clearly showed how to do things properly when they went up.
Now Fenty has gone this fanbase have woken and we will pass Lincoln on the way up . The Imps have peaked and truly we haven’t realised our potential since the early 80s . The 1878 mob understand football they understand NE Lincs and they understand business . I predict a very quiet Norfolk Imp in the near future he will soon be back drooling over KDB and Haaland shame really …….

Quoted from NorfolkImp

Hang on a mo, a few years back when our fanbase virtually trebled overnight, didn’t you accuse us all of being plastics?

Is it somehow different, now you’ve had a bit of success?

Watch out !! We’re back 😁.
We’re on the way up, you’re slowly on your way back down.
Normality will soon be resumed.
Enjoy the next few seasons, I think we will 😁👍

Quoted from ginnywings

You may get there as many times as we have eventually and the novelty will wear off for the plastics.

First sensible post I’ve read in reply, whilst some tiddlers are snapping away …. tbh I agree with what you’re saying, a dozen visits to Wembley within the last decade, the novelty has certainly wore off.

Woah …. steady …. before anyone pipes up, I know a few Town based blues who went to the Solihull game, or are those 2 team w@nk3rs somehow exempt from criticism too?

What’s with all the Willy waving?

We’ve sold an unprecedented amount, Lincoln did the same. I know many consider them a derby but to me they’re just another small team that’s local. Simples.

They’ll naturally lose fans as they’re following a excrement season after being 90 minutes away from the second division. It always happens. If we had a excrement season we’d have lost fans.

We’re riding that crest and it’s mega to be honest. I’ve never felt better being a town fan. If Dave who’s never been wants to start coming, fill ya boots. Give us ya cash and we’ll gladly take it. If you intercourse off in 5 years, so be it.

Quoted from 1mickylyons

Norfolk Imp was born in Grimsby but raised in Lincoln and a devoted Imp til Man City got the oil money then he started chasing silver with them. Enter the Cowley boys and he returned to bask in the Imps remarkable upsurge in fortune . He is a very knowledgeable lower league football fan and a top WUM however he has a very selective memory when it comes to certain things . This chap needs to do some research and very quickly on what’s going on with GTFC off the pitch . In real terms we have had an hardcore of 4K fans with another 4-5k dormant . This fan base was never tapped into by the previous board and LCFC clearly showed how to do things properly when they went up.
Now Fenty has gone this fanbase have woken and we will pass Lincoln on the way up . The Imps have peaked and truly we haven’t realised our potential since the early 80s . The 1878 mob understand football they understand NE Lincs and they understand business . I predict a very quiet Norfolk Imp in the near future he will soon be back drooling over KDB and Haaland shame really …….

It’s funny, when JMD stole in at the back post and netted late on, I actually smiled and thought good old 1mickeylyons …. personally I’d have chosen 1garybirtles or 1trevwhymark but you know better than me.

Wise words to contemplate there, and we’ll see what occurs in the coming months/seasons. Have the Imps peaked, quite possibly so? A couple of seasons of treading water to take stock, then we’ll go again and make a concerted effort for the Championship hopefully.

One thing’s for sure, Utd won’t be challenging for the foreseeable mate, so no danger of divided loyalties for you.

Quoted from NorfolkImp

First sensible post I’ve read in reply, whilst some tiddlers are snapping away …. tbh I agree with what you’re saying, a dozen visits to Wembley within the last decade, the novelty has certainly wore off.

Woah …. steady …. before anyone pipes up, I know a few Town based blues who went to the Solihull game, or are those 2 team w@nk3rs somehow exempt from criticism too?

I know we've done remarkably well in getting to Wembley several times, but I don't think it's quite that many.

Oh! You mean Citeh.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Just had a quick count of the available ST seats...

  310 / 1,748 - Upper Tier
   40 /   811 - Lower Tier
  119 / 1,728 - Pontoon Stand
  861 / 2,393 - Main Stand

1,330 / 6,670 - TOTAL

There must be some seats reserved for match day sales only.

There can't be 5,340 seats already sold or reserved for 2021/22 STHs. There were approximately 3,300 STs sold last season & there aren't 2,000 new STHs for the 2022/23 season.

Thought it might be worth a fresh look at this, [almost] a week on from Golly’s post after we’d just announced the sale of “over” 1,400 season tickets to NEW holders. The current count of available seats reads as follows:

Upper - 144
Lower - 10
Pontoon - 9
Main - 714

That’s a total of 877, which means since lunch time last Sunday we’ve sold a further 453 NEW season tickets, meaning we are at close to 1,900 new ST’s.

Assuming low attrition amongst existing ST holders, and I expect it to be very low, we have already sold enough tickets to take us beyond a total of 5,000. How good is that?

I’d be confident of shifting at least another couple of hundred new tickets given the likely payday and earlybird deadline spikes. If renewal rates are as high as I expect them to be, we’ll be closer to 5,500 than 5,000 by the time we’re done. That’s just mental, especially when you consider our average attendance last season was a very healthy 5,704.

For additional context, Operation Promotion raised £110,000. An additional 2,000 season tickets is worth in the region of £600,000, not to mention all of the extra food, drink and merchandise an additional 2,000 punters will buy.

Quoted from Poojah

Thought it might be worth a fresh look at this, [almost] a week on from Golly’s post after we’d just announced the sale of “over” 1,400 season tickets to NEW holders. The current count of available seats reads as follows:

Upper - 144
Lower - 10
Pontoon - 9
Main - 714

That’s a total of 877, which means since lunch time last Sunday we’ve sold a further 453 NEW season tickets, meaning we are at close to 1,900 new ST’s.

Assuming low attrition amongst existing ST holders, and I expect it to be very low, we have already sold enough tickets to take us beyond a total of 5,000. How good is that?

I’d be confident of shifting at least another couple of hundred new tickets given the likely payday and earlybird deadline spikes. If renewal rates are as high as I expect them to be, we’ll be closer to 5,500 than 5,000 by the time we’re done. That’s just mental, especially when you consider our average attendance last season was a very healthy 5,704.

For additional context, Operation Promotion raised £110,000. An additional 2,000 season tickets is worth in the region of £600,000, not to mention all of the extra food, drink and merchandise an additional 2,000 punters will buy.

I suppose there’s a slight amount of estimation with your numbers, but they seem very probable given your reasoning. To say I am astounded by these figures is no exaggeration!

Personally I have just bought my first ST since 2001, after vowing to never do so again. I’ve still gone to plenty of games, but never once been tempted to commit. Until now.

Quoted from Heisenberg

I suppose there’s a slight amount of estimation with your numbers, but they seem very probable given your reasoning. To say I am astounded by these figures is no exaggeration!

Personally I have just bought my first ST since 2001, after vowing to never do so again. I’ve still gone to plenty of games, but never once been tempted to commit. Until now.

Likewise

In my old age, ( currently 68 ) , 2 years ago I decided to return back to the area after living abroad, and all over this country due to work. This was to enjoy the coastal air strolling along the front, and at last be able to watch my beloved Mariners more regularly. Alas Covid messed that up... games behind closed doors and relegation to non league again. Last year, for the first time ever, as a family we took out 3 season tickets in the Ponny, sensing that something was in the air. Deep joy !!! Amazing to have enjoyed it as much as I did in 71/72... this time with the family. There was no question we would again take out the season tickets... somethings in the air !!!
A long time since I've felt like this about the future of GTFC... bring on 22/23... thanks to ALL involved with the clubs upturn... keep on buying the ST's... let's enjoy next season as much as the last !!! UTM !!!

Quoted from NorfolkImp

It’s funny, when JMD stole in at the back post and netted late on, I actually smiled and thought good old 1mickeylyons …. personally I’d have chosen 1garybirtles or 1trevwhymark but you know better than me.

Wise words to contemplate there, and we’ll see what occurs in the coming months/seasons. Have the Imps peaked, quite possibly so? A couple of seasons of treading water to take stock, then we’ll go again and make a concerted effort for the Championship hopefully.

One thing’s for sure, Utd won’t be challenging for the foreseeable mate, so no danger of divided loyalties for you.

When you put on the Lincoln City shirt does it fill you with pride? Or does it chaffe against the Man City shirt?

Quoted from Plankton

When you put on the Lincoln City shirt does it fill you with pride? Or does it chaffe against the Man City shirt?

I actually purchased last seasons cos it was a retro version based on the 81’ Murphy promotion kit …. It’s still in its packaging tbh.

Quoted from NorfolkImp

I actually purchased last seasons cos it was a retro version based on the 81’ Murphy promotion kit …. It’s still in its packaging tbh.

Tell you what . Behave yourself and I’ll buy you an air raid siren to go with it. UTM

Quoted from Poojah

Thought it might be worth a fresh look at this, [almost] a week on from Golly’s post after we’d just announced the sale of “over” 1,400 season tickets to NEW holders. The current count of available seats reads as follows:

Upper - 144
Lower - 10
Pontoon - 9
Main - 714

That’s a total of 877, which means since lunch time last Sunday we’ve sold a further 453 NEW season tickets, meaning we are at close to 1,900 new ST’s.

Assuming low attrition amongst existing ST holders, and I expect it to be very low, we have already sold enough tickets to take us beyond a total of 5,000. How good is that?

I’d be confident of shifting at least another couple of hundred new tickets given the likely payday and earlybird deadline spikes. If renewal rates are as high as I expect them to be, we’ll be closer to 5,500 than 5,000 by the time we’re done. That’s just mental, especially when you consider our average attendance last season was a very healthy 5,704.

For additional context, Operation Promotion raised £110,000. An additional 2,000 season tickets is worth in the region of £600,000, not to mention all of the extra food, drink and merchandise an additional 2,000 punters will buy.

The atmosphere in the ground is going to be another level next season. Cannot wait!

You’d envisage that there will be a steady increase at the back end of next week/beginning of the following week, as people start getting paid for the month.

Hitting 4000 season ticket holders would be absolutely ridiculous and unimaginable under previous regimes. It shows with a bit of TLC and innovative thinking there’s no reason why the club can’t and isn’t the beating heart of the community.

Quoted from bradzmilne

You’d envisage that there will be a steady increase at the back end of next week/beginning of the following week, as people start getting paid for the month.

Hitting 4000 season ticket holders would be absolutely ridiculous and unimaginable under previous regimes. It shows with a bit of TLC and innovative thinking there’s no reason why the club can’t and isn’t the beating heart of the community.

Our friend Felipe and Pen told us it wasn’t possible, that there wasn’t thousands that stayed away…their absence is rather telling don’t you think. Ironic, thousands come back and those hanging on in the coat tails or indeed out the back of our former intrepid leader are no where to be seen…big towns fans too, apparently…

Quoted from aldi_01

Our friend Felipe and Pen told us it wasn’t possible, that there wasn’t thousands that stayed away…their absence is rather telling don’t you think. Ironic, thousands come back and those hanging on in the coat tails or indeed out the back of our former intrepid leader are no where to be seen…big towns fans too, apparently…

The past regime were exposed for what they were and are .

Got @ feeling that there will be at least two tickets that become available in the upper COS WE DONT WANT FENTY ANYMORE

Quoted from crusty ole pie

Got @ feeling that there will be at least two tickets that become available in the upper COS WE DONT WANT FENTY ANYMORE

Be more than two, but of course, when they’re not free it’s probably gonna put you off even more.

Fenty, Dale, Day, Marley et al are all huge town fans though so I’d imagine they’ve already secured their season tickets and enjoyed the playoff final like the rest of us…

Thanks to Poojah for updating from last week. As everyone knows I love my statistics and projections based on available data. With that in mind I’m upgrading my projection from between 4,700 & 4,800 to a projection of between 4,850 & 4,950.

Any club insiders know what the club is projecting now?

Quoted from aldi_01

Our friend Felipe and Pen told us it wasn’t possible, that there wasn’t thousands that stayed away…their absence is rather telling don’t you think. Ironic, thousands come back and those hanging on in the coat tails or indeed out the back of our former intrepid leader are no where to be seen…big towns fans too, apparently…

Their argument now would be that the fans are only returning because we got promoted and not because they have left the building, conveniently forgetting to add that it was their decisions that got us relegated more than once in the first place.

The difference around the club now to then is poles apart.

Perhaps they will pop their heads above the parapet and let us know their thoughts.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Thanks to Poojah for updating from last week. As everyone knows I love my statistics and projections based on available data. With that in mind I’m upgrading my projection from between 4,700 & 4,800 to a projection of between 4,850 & 4,950.

Any club insiders know what the club is projecting now?

I love your stats Golly and in fairness usually you’re close this time I hope you’re a bit under I’d be over the moon to see 5k+ it’s just such a huge statement . In 2016 we missed a huge opportunity and a year later our Imp friends showed how to do it right off the pitch . Now 2022 not sure we can do better than Lincoln but we have already sailed past our 2016 efforts. These 1878 guys have really impressed me no dramas just measured one step at a time processes that they get to work .League 1 here we come

Quoted from ginnywings

Their argument now would be that the fans are only returning because we got promoted and not because they have left the building, conveniently forgetting to add that it was their decisions that got us relegated more than once in the first place.

The difference around the club now to then is poles apart.

Perhaps they will pop their heads above the parapet and let us know their thoughts.

Not a chance mate they’ve more egg on the face than a toddler at Easter .
The previous board had chance after chance after chance from this fan base and only ever used the love and affection has a stick to beat us with . Once again 2 weeks ago the chips were down and 20k was raised to help fellow supporters get to the Final . Fans of other clubs do similar things BUT ours built the Pontoon nought Joe Waters then Ivano then operation promotion finally the Olympic stadium . Hurst epitomises this can do attitude with his never give in. Too flipping right we’re Grimsby

Quoted from ginnywings

Their argument now would be that the fans are only returning because we got promoted and not because they have left the building, conveniently forgetting to add that it was their decisions that got us relegated more than once in the first place.

The difference around the club now to then is poles apart.

Perhaps they will pop their heads above the parapet and let us know their thoughts.

No doubt, but their point of view can pretty easily be debunked I mean for starters we sold more season tickets last season, the one after a relegation than we did the one after the 2016 promotion. That's even setting aside the likely final outcome from this seasons ST sales.

Unfortunately they'll never be convinced though, and will argue that that protracted period of misery was a success even though all the evidence points to the contrary.

To be fair I’d say the mark of a good tan base is how they stick with a club when the chips are down .
We’ve always had 4000 home fans and always had great away support , I can’t ever remember us not filling any of our local rivals away ends in derby games.
We’ve always taken at least a 1000 for pre season friendlies
We can’t forget when Lincoln only bought 300 Fans to Blundell park and often used to go have a look on their site for the annual reasons I’m not going to Grimsby away post which contained some of these classics …
It’s too cold
Family dinner
Their fans aren’t very nice
Dog excrement on the pavement 😂

Quoted from gary_elton

In my old age, ( currently 68 ) , 2 years ago I decided to return back to the area after living abroad, and all over this country due to work. This was to enjoy the coastal air strolling along the front, and at last be able to watch my beloved Mariners more regularly. Alas Covid messed that up... games behind closed doors and relegation to non league again. Last year, for the first time ever, as a family we took out 3 season tickets in the Ponny, sensing that something was in the air. Deep joy !!! Amazing to have enjoyed it as much as I did in 71/72... this time with the family. There was no question we would again take out the season tickets... somethings in the air !!!
A long time since I've felt like this about the future of GTFC... bring on 22/23... thanks to ALL involved with the clubs upturn... keep on buying the ST's... let's enjoy next season as much as the last !!! UTM !!!

Great stuff Gary, there's me and my 3 keeping the Leicestershire Mariners flag flying for you, even my wife (ex-Belfast Best era therefore Man Utd fan) went to Notts - and, being a hardcore football hooligan, got thrown out of the home end (along with the rest of us)...

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Thanks to Poojah for updating from last week. As everyone knows I love my statistics and projections based on available data. With that in mind I’m upgrading my projection from between 4,700 & 4,800 to a projection of between 4,850 & 4,950.

Any club insiders know what the club is projecting now?

Spoke with Steve Wraith the other day, he was expecting season tickets sales to around the 4500.

Quoted from The Yard Dog

Spoke with Steve Wraith the other day, he was expecting season tickets sales to around the 4500.

With a fewer than 1k seats left unallocated that is either out of date, or there are blocks of seats kept back for match day sales, no way will we lose 600+ existing STH. We’ll know in 4 weeks…hmm 4 weeks of the discount period still to run and we’ve smashed past our previous best…

10 seats in lower
8 seats in ponny
88 unrestricted views upper
31 restricted views upper
LOADS available in the Main. Stand

Quoted from lukeo

10 seats in lower
8 seats in ponny
88 unrestricted views upper
31 restricted views upper
LOADS available in the Main. Stand

This tells us all we need to know about the Main Stand.

To be fair I’ve sat in there for 30 years as my stand of choice but it needs replacing.
My seat of choice was always the old bench seats right at the back which probably have the worst view in the whole ground , if that’s the only seat I could get I’d still take it over missing a big game but the stand is 40 years past it’s sell by date

I’ve got my season ticket again and it’s in the Main Stand. I personally love it and wouldn’t sit anywhere else. I would imagine that many season ticket holders are yet to renew in there.

I know more season tickets holders that haven’t renewed yet than those that have.

One of the few that has had loved from the main stand to the pontoon…

Quoted from grimps

To be fair I’d say the mark of a good tan base is how they stick with a club when the chips are down .
We’ve always had 4000 home fans and always had great away support , I can’t ever remember us not filling any of our local rivals away ends in derby games.
We’ve always taken at least a 1000 for pre season friendlies
We can’t forget when Lincoln only bought 300 Fans to Blundell park and often used to go have a look on their site for the annual reasons I’m not going to Grimsby away post which contained some of these classics …
It’s too cold
Family dinner
Their fans aren’t very nice
Dog excrement on the pavement 😂

Blimey, that figure goes down a hundred with each passing year … there was still over 800 for that snow blizzard affected fixture which was played on a BP ice rink. Yes Town coped better and ‘spanked’ us 3-0 ‘on’ the pitch, but Imps fans took great risks driving over Caister top to even get there, as you well know.

Quoted from NorfolkImp

Blimey, that figure goes down a hundred with each passing year … there was still over 800 for that snow blizzard affected fixture which was played on a BP ice rink. Yes Town coped better and ‘spanked’ us 3-0 ‘on’ the pitch, but Imps fans took great risks driving over Caister top to even get there, as you well know.

Much like that figure goes down year on year, the weather from that fateful game gets worse year on year.

Yes, it was shite but I had zero trouble getting back to Lincoln after the game, if you drove sensibly it was ok.

Quoted from NorfolkImp

Blimey, that figure goes down a hundred with each passing year … there was still over 800 for that snow blizzard affected fixture which was played on a BP ice rink. Yes Town coped better and ‘spanked’ us 3-0 ‘on’ the pitch, but Imps fans took great risks driving over Caister top to even get there, as you well know.

it was 2005 pal

On New years day you brought 400 fans and whinged to the league that you didnt want to play us on Boxing Day/ NYD anymore

I remember Lincoln not selling an allocation for a playoff game at BP too…

I recall it was comedy gold reading Lincoln vital around our fixtures and the excuses for not coming . One or two good posters on there like Old Guard used to give it both barrels to the rest for showing weakness in the face of the enemy .At the time both teams where poor but we usually sold out the allocation and wanted more tickets.Bless em they never liked the sea air dogshit or hostile locals where as we liked the big church on the hill

Quoted from NorfolkImp

Blimey, that figure goes down a hundred with each passing year … there was still over 800 for that snow blizzard affected fixture which was played on a BP ice rink. Yes Town coped better and ‘spanked’ us 3-0 ‘on’ the pitch, but Imps fans took great risks driving over Caister top to even get there, as you well know.

I’m not sure which year it was but you definitely brought less than 400 one year , we’ve always filled any away end within an hour drive

Quoted from NorfolkImp

Blimey, that figure goes down a hundred with each passing year … there was still over 800 for that snow blizzard affected fixture which was played on a BP ice rink. Yes Town coped better and ‘spanked’ us 3-0 ‘on’ the pitch, but Imps fans took great risks driving over Caister top to even get there, as you well know.

Was there heckers 800. It was confirmed as 550ish

I recall us only having around 1200 one year under AB for a 1-1 draw

https://www.weareimps.com/news/2014/january/match-report--01012014/

This game had them bring 480
The next season was 800

Most of their fans turned up at half time too , it must have been so they could get a clear run at the dog excrement ridden pavements 😂

Quoted from Hagrid

it was 2005 pal

On New years day you brought 400 fans and whinged to the league that you didnt want to play us on Boxing Day/ NYD anymore

He won’t remember that, he was a City fan at the time.

Quoted from NorfolkImp

Blimey, that figure goes down a hundred with each passing year … there was still over 800 for that snow blizzard affected fixture which was played on a BP ice rink. Yes Town coped better and ‘spanked’ us 3-0 ‘on’ the pitch, but Imps fans took great risks driving over Caister top to even get there, as you well know.

I managed to get to BP from Grantham for that match so stop making excuses. And I don’t think you had anywhere near 800 there for that match. It was just over 500 wasn’t it?

If you are ever worried about Caistor you could always try going A15 > M180 > A180 as it’s further but quicker because you’re not doing 6 or 7 miles at 30mph after getting to Morrisons at Laceby. You don’t hit 30mph until you get to Riby Square which is about a mile for BP.

If you're detouring to BP via Norfolk, you deserve everything you get. Caister is not in Lincolnshire!

Quoted from lukeo

10 seats in lower
10 seats in ponny
88 unrestricted views upper
32 restricted views upper
LOADS available in the Main. Stand(500+)

*update*

5 seats in lower
10 in ponny still
71 unrestricted in views upper
32 restricted views upper
Still loads in Main stand

Quoted from lukeo

*update*

5 seats in lower
10 in ponny still
71 unrestricted in views upper
32 restricted views upper
Still loads in Main stand

680 left in the main, including a chunk of officially ‘restricted view’ seats however given that most of the non-RV seats are at the very back of the stand, there’s no way you’re getting an unimpeded sight of the pitch from there.

Of those remaining seats in the upper, only a very small number are next to one another so if you’re wanting to go with a mate and actually see the game I really wouldn’t hang about now.

For the record we’re selling at a rate of 30-40 new tickets per day, so I’d expect all of the ‘good’ seats to be gone by the end of this week, if not sooner.

With payday a week on Thursday and potentially a decent signing or two (I’m speculating, not ITK), I’m predicting that we will have exceeded 2,000 brand new season tickets by the end of the month.

Been down the club today. Wasn't busy in the ticket office when I went in around lunchtime.

The actual season tickets themselves won't be ready for a couple of weeks yet I was told, if anyone is thinking of going to pick theirs up.

Quoted from lukeo

*update*

5 seats in lower
10 in ponny still
71 unrestricted in views upper
32 restricted views upper
Still loads in Main stand

Still selling in the Main though…availability is only good in G and H. There are nearer 6k than 5k allocated or sold, albeit we don’t know whether there some reserved for match day sales in the allocated.

I see the club are doing relocations after the 19th, not that I’d expect there to be much choice.

Quoted from Poojah

680 left in the main, including a chunk of officially ‘restricted view’ seats however given that most of the non-RV seats are at the very back of the stand, there’s no way you’re getting an unimpeded sight of the pitch from there.

Of those remaining seats in the upper, only a very small number are next to one another so if you’re wanting to go with a mate and actually see the game I really wouldn’t hang about now.

For the record we’re selling at a rate of 30-40 new tickets per day, so I’d expect all of the ‘good’ seats to be gone by the end of this week, if not sooner.

With payday a week on Thursday and potentially a decent signing or two (I’m speculating, not ITK), I’m predicting that we will have exceeded 2,000 brand new season tickets by the end of the month.

Great to see it is all coming along nicely.

It begs the question if we speculate for a moment that we were to have another promotion, and in a parallel universe we had say, a 15,000-seater stadium with all mod cons, could we contemplate as many as 8,000 season ticket holders with gates between 10,000 and 12,000?

I suspect this will be the key to whether at any time in the future the owners will look at moving to a new stadium; just imagine the pandemonium if we DID get another promotion trying to get a seat with the current capacity.

Also regarding BP, it has often been suggested that when the Findus was built it was designed to be behind one of the goals, and the pitch turned round. If that was the plan back in the day, would it still work if we kept the Findus as the new Pontoon so to speak and built 3 new stands? Or is it remotely feasible to re-site the Findus stand where the Pontoon is now, and build 3 new stands? Or just move?

The owners might be having these sorts of conversations quicker than they imagined!

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Great to see it is all coming along nicely.

It begs the question if we speculate for a moment that we were to have another promotion, and in a parallel universe we had say, a 15,000-seater stadium with all mod cons, could we contemplate as many as 8,000 season ticket holders with gates between 10,000 and 12,000?

I suspect this will be the key to whether at any time in the future the owners will look at moving to a new stadium; just imagine the pandemonium if we DID get another promotion trying to get a seat with the current capacity.

Also regarding BP, it has often been suggested that when the Findus was built it was designed to be behind one of the goals, and the pitch turned round. If that was the plan back in the day, would it still work if we kept the Findus as the new Pontoon so to speak and built 3 new stands? Or is it remotely feasible to re-site the Findus stand where the Pontoon is now, and build 3 new stands? Or just move?

The owners might be having these sorts of conversations quicker than they imagined!

I've heard this many times but I don't see how. There isn't the room.

Quoted from ginnywings

I've heard this many times but I don't see how. There isn't the room.

I’ve posted this before (can’t quite find the scale mock-up I did) but if the club were to own the houses on Harrington Street behind the main stand, then you’d have a plot of land large enough to build a stadium with the same footprint as Rotherham’s New York Stadium.

That’s much easier said than done however, as you’d have to buy up around 20 houses with a market value of between £75k and £100k each and therefore a cost to the club of probably at least 20% - 30% more than that. You’d almost certainly need the assistance of compulsory purchase orders at some point which is neither straightforward or morally in keeping with the community values promoted by our owners.

Liverpool did something similar, successfully I might add, but they wrecked a lot of lives along the way. I don’t think we’ll be seeing a rotated Blundell Park any time soon.

There wasn't a plan to turn the pitch round, don't know where that myth came from. The plan was to extend the Findus into the corners, but they would never get planning permission. On the halfway line, in the lower, was what looked like a boarded up exit. This was going to be the players tunnel, when it was extended, with the dressing rooms being built when it was extended. Non of it ever happened of course.

Quoted from Poojah

I’ve posted this before (can’t quite find the scale mock-up I did) but if the club were to own the houses on Harrington Street behind the main stand, then you’d have a plot of land large enough to build a stadium with the same footprint as Rotherham’s New York Stadium.

That’s much easier said than done however, as you’d have to buy up around 20 houses with a market value of between £75k and £100k each and therefore a cost to the club of probably at least 20% - 30% more than that. You’d almost certainly need the assistance of compulsory purchase orders at some point which is neither straightforward or morally in keeping with the community values promoted by our owners.

Liverpool did something similar, successfully I might add, but they wrecked a lot of lives along the way. I don’t think we’ll be seeing a rotated Blundell Park any time soon.

Thinking about it I suppose it would also be difficult to put a two-tier stand where the Pontoon is now, due to houses being behind, which leads us to the conclusion that the only "big stand" we could accommodate would be on the Findus side, with 3 stands of single storey. It is going to be a conundrum in the next few years as to whether to stick or twist.

Quoted from mimma

There wasn't a plan to turn the pitch round, don't know where that myth came from. The plan was to extend the Findus into the corners, but they would never get planning permission. On the halfway line, in the lower, was what looked like a boarded up exit. This was going to be the players tunnel, when it was extended, with the dressing rooms being built when it was extended. Non of it ever happened of course.

If my memory serves me well, the quote is correct. The projected changing rooms under the Findus were never utilised and eventually used as school rooms/storage rooms.They could still be changed back when the main stand is condemned, which by the way I hope it isn't.

Quoted from mimma

There wasn't a plan to turn the pitch round, don't know where that myth came from. The plan was to extend the Findus into the corners, but they would never get planning permission. On the halfway line, in the lower, was what looked like a boarded up exit. This was going to be the players tunnel, when it was extended, with the dressing rooms being built when it was extended. Non of it ever happened of course.

We can’t be far off hitting 4k now. Especially given how limited availability is outside the Main Stand now. I’m thinking 5k is as good as nailed on. Don’t actually know if that lack of availability is actually becoming a hindrance as people can’t get decent seats next to each other. Is the club offering anyway of opening up seats from which people have moved or can people tell the club if they’re not renewing? Realise that’s being hyper critical but we need to maximise sales given our limited capacity. That would open up more seats to new people. It’s amazing, and a fantastic problem to have, to be discussing running out of space.

Regarding increasing capacity, if we’re to improve BP, we need an owner with infinitely deep pockets who can afford to buy at every one of those houses around the ground as you’ll be paying way over the market prices. We’re stuck with BP as it is. So, if this becomes an issue for more than a season, getting an new ground has to become a top priority again.

Quoted from Mariner_09

We can’t be far off hitting 4k now. Especially given how limited availability is outside the Main Stand now. I’m thinking 5k is as good as nailed on. Don’t actually know if that lack of availability is actually becoming a hindrance as people can’t get decent seats next to each other. Is the club offering anyway of opening up seats from which people have moved or can people tell the club if they’re not renewing? Realise that’s being hyper critical but we need to maximise sales given our limited capacity. That would open up more seats to new people. It’s amazing, and a fantastic problem to have, to be discussing running out of space.

Yeah when I got my ticket I was told this is becoming an issue with people having a poor choice or not able to sit together now impacting selling more. They said some previous season ticket holders who hadmoved seats hadn't confirmed they wouldn't be using their old ones yet so they take up 2 seats at the moment when they will actually only be using one, or that was the impression I got from what was said.

Apparently this whole sale process has been an eye opener for the club, and highlighted some shortcomings of their online system. Such has been the demand, multiple people have put seats in their basket concurrently, with the slow coaches missing out! This has caused the staff headaches as the confusion among fans has meant some relocation is needed on specific seat allocation, and the system has a few glitches that need sorting for future seasons.

Quoted from Heisenberg

Apparently this whole sale process has been an eye opener for the club, and highlighted some shortcomings of their online system. Such has been the demand, multiple people have put seats in their basket concurrently, with the slow coaches missing out! This has caused the staff headaches as the confusion among fans has meant some relocation is needed on specific seat allocation, and the system has a few glitches that need sorting for future seasons.

We can safely say that there will be a response to this though under the new regime.

This level of sales is unprecedented, I thought we’d shift a few after bouncing straight back but what has happened has been phenomenal…

There are problems, but they are nice problems to solve. Problems that were never previously foreseen because the previous regime didn't know how much support there is for the club.

Enter 1878 who removed the cataracts and saw 1,000's of bright lights called supporters, supporters who realised what the future held. They came out in their 1,000s to buy season tickets at a prolific rate. An unheard of problem, but a nice problem.

I am sure our success will bring more problems, problems in how to advance the club in the right direction. The future is looking good, the future is Black and White.

UTM

Quoted from aldi_01

We can safely say that there will be a response to this though under the new regime.

This level of sales is unprecedented, I thought we’d shift a few after bouncing straight back but what has happened has been phenomenal…

They told me it’d be sorted for next season, and you just know it will. Such a change.

Should be 4,000 before the end of the week.

https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1539184077399633920

Quoted from Poojah

Should be 4,000 before the end of the week.

https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1539184077399633920

I’d imagine the numbers will spike again after pay day.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I’d imagine the numbers will spike again after pay day.

Between now and the start of the season you’ve got pay day, the 19th July renewal deadline and multiple new signings. Each of those will see a spike, whilst the steady daily flow of sales continues at a very healthy rate.

Stockport have only sold 500 more than us so we are pretty much in that ball park. Really would like to see some work on temp seats so we can get those who can’t attend regularly (like me) into the ground too.

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

Stockport have only sold 500 more than us so we are pretty much in that ball park. Really would like to see some work on temp seats so we can get those who can’t attend regularly (like me) into the ground too.

Ideally in the Imperial Corner?

https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1539206349019656196

Quoted from Poojah

https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1539206349019656196

Surely the system will highlight duplicated names

Got my renewal today and the office was quiet.

Are the actual physical season tickets themselves being given out now?

Quoted from Les Brechin

Are the actual physical season tickets themselves being given out now?

My Dad popped in yesterday & they said not available as yet

Quoted from Les Brechin

Are the actual physical season tickets themselves being given out now?

Told me end of the month when I went in yesterday.

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

Stockport have only sold 500 more than us so we are pretty much in that ball park. Really would like to see some work on temp seats so we can get those who can’t attend regularly (like me) into the ground too.

There will be seats in the Main stand and Osmond too most matches.

Playing devils advocate here and looking at it from the clubs point of view, they have said that a new and bigger ground will be looked into once BP is regularly being sold out.

We have currently sold close to 3900 season tickets and will probably finish up with sales of 4500 to 5000, leaving around 4000 more seats for match days going on a 9000 capacity, so is it going to sell out every week, or is it going to be a case of a good number of the new season ticket sales are people like me who would have gone to the game anyway, despite not having had one for the last 2 seasons? I know lots of regular attenders who have bought a season ticket purely because it makes life easier for them to obtain a ticket where they want to be now that demand is higher than previous seasons.

The point I'm making is that people seem to be assuming that there will be nowhere available on match days for walk ups, but as numbers stand, there will be spare seats somewhere I'd imagine. They may not be in the best places, but they will be there.

Are we going to be at capacity every home game and locking people out?

Quoted from crusty ole pie

Surely the system will highlight duplicated names

Depends how old and crap it is i suppose, but even if it can't its a pretty easy task to export the lot into excel and sort it alphabetically. Even if there was no export option, only print you could print to pdf and import to excel that way.

Pimples

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

Depends how old and crap it is i suppose, but even if it can't its a pretty easy task to export the lot into excel and sort it alphabetically. Even if there was no export option, only print you could print to pdf and import to excel that way.

Pimples

You can't export to Excel from an exercise book

Quoted from ginnywings

There will be seats in the Main stand and Osmond too most matches.

Playing devils advocate here and looking at it from the clubs point of view, they have said that a new and bigger ground will be looked into once BP is regularly being sold out.

We have currently sold close to 3900 season tickets and will probably finish up with sales of 4500 to 5000, leaving around 4000 more seats for match days going on a 9000 capacity, so is it going to sell out every week, or is it going to be a case of a good number of the new season ticket sales are people like me who would have gone to the game anyway, despite not having had one for the last 2 seasons? I know lots of regular attenders who have bought a season ticket purely because it makes life easier for them to obtain a ticket where they want to be now that demand is higher than previous seasons.

The point I'm making is that people seem to be assuming that there will be nowhere available on match days for walk ups, but as numbers stand, there will be spare seats somewhere I'd imagine. They may not be in the best places, but they will be there.

Are we going to be at capacity every home game and locking people out?

I’m not 100% sure that the official capacity is correct, as when we have games where BP is rammed to the nines, the maximum attendance you normally see is around 7700/7800.
So I imagine our current official capacity is somewhere around 8000. Perhaps the old figure was used when the osmond corner was in use?

https://mobile.twitter.com/mark_stilton/status/1539225483723915266

Quoted from TheultimateMariner

I’m not 100% sure that the official capacity is correct, as when we have games where BP is rammed to the nines, the maximum attendance you normally see is around 7700/7800.
So I imagine our current official capacity is somewhere around 8000. Perhaps the old figure was used when the osmond corner was in use?

Official certified capacity is 9033.

Quoted from TheultimateMariner

I’m not 100% sure that the official capacity is correct, as when we have games where BP is rammed to the nines, the maximum attendance you normally see is around 7700/7800.
So I imagine our current official capacity is somewhere around 8000. Perhaps the old figure was used when the osmond corner was in use?

Maybe so, but are we going to be getting north of 8000 every week?

It may be a case of splitting the Osmond and restricting away numbers for the bigger games if we want more home fans in.

Think the capacity is 8,700 now.

Take away 2,200 for the Osmond Stand and we're looking at around 6,500 seats in the home stands.

If we're going to hit around the 5000 mark for season tickets sold, 1500 home stand seats remaining sounds a big enough number when you consider ginnys point about fans that will have gone from going already to just now having a ST. However I'd imagine a large ish number of that 1500 will listed as restricted view, a large amount will be seats in the Main Stand where your view is impaired wherever you sit (I've mentioned before I know numerous people who've wanted to go to a game but wouldn't pay £20 to sit in the Main after other stands are sold out), and it looks like there's going to be quite a few odd spare seats dotted around meaning people wanting to go with a mate/family member wouldn't be able to.

Obviously great to be having these problems as it shows the direction we're going in. But I think the above points will make it hard for us to completely sell out games and get a full house.

In my opinion we should be looking at getting temporary seating in the two open corners either side of the pontoon before the season starts.

Quoted from Tommy

Think the capacity is 8,700 now.

It's definitely 9033 mate

Quoted from Tommy

Think the capacity is 8,700 now.

Take away 2,200 for the Osmond Stand and we're looking at around 6,500 seats in the home stands.

If we're going to hit around the 5000 mark for season tickets sold, 1500 home stand seats remaining sounds a big enough number when you consider ginnys point about fans that will have gone from going already to just now having a ST. However I'd imagine a large ish number of that 1500 will listed as restricted view, a large amount will be seats in the Main Stand where your view is impaired wherever you sit (I've mentioned before I know numerous people who've wanted to go to a game but wouldn't pay £20 to sit in the Main after other stands are sold out), and it looks like there's going to be quite a few odd spare seats dotted around meaning people wanting to go with a mate/family member wouldn't be able to.

Obviously great to be having these problems as it shows the direction we're going in. But I think the above points will make it hard for us to completely sell out games and get a full house.

In my opinion we should be looking at getting temporary seating in the two open corners either side of the pontoon before the season starts.

There will obviously be a significant cannibalisation of individual match ticket sales, but I still think there will be a good number of people who want to go for whom buying a season ticket simply isn’t option because of finances (especially right now) or work patterns.

Also, don’t forget that on top of season tickets sold you have an entire block in the Upper which is filled by comps and commercial partnerships etc. That’s another 250 seats filled which aren’t accounted for in the season ticket figures.

As of 3pm today, there are only 760 seats showing as available throughout the home ends. Even if there are a few existing ST drop offs (there won’t be many), this figure is likely to be well below 500 before the season starts.

If we can trouble the top half of the table I think you’re going to see the Main Stand, Pontoon and bother Upper and Lower Findus sold out virtually every week. It’ll be interesting to see what plans are put in place to utilise the Osmond for home support.

Quoted from Poojah

There will obviously be a significant cannibalisation of individual match ticket sales, but I still think there will be a good number of people who want to go for whom buying a season ticket simply isn’t option because of finances (especially right now) or work patterns.

Also, don’t forget that on top of season tickets sold you have an entire block in the Upper which is filled by comps and commercial partnerships etc. That’s another 250 seats filled which aren’t accounted for in the season ticket figures.

As of 3pm today, there are only 760 seats showing as available throughout the home ends. Even if there are a few existing ST drop offs (there won’t be many), this figure is likely to be well below 500 before the season starts.

If we can trouble the top half of the table I think you’re going to see the Main Stand, Pontoon and bother Upper and Lower Findus sold out virtually every week. It’ll be interesting to see what plans are put in place to utilise the Osmond for home support.

Barring the teams who are going to bring large followings (Bradford, Mansfield, Doncaster etc) I reckon we should be using the main part of The Osmond, behind the goal, for Town fans and put the away fans in the corner.

Quoted from ginnywings

There will be seats in the Main stand and Osmond too most matches.

Playing devils advocate here and looking at it from the clubs point of view, they have said that a new and bigger ground will be looked into once BP is regularly being sold out.

We have currently sold close to 3900 season tickets and will probably finish up with sales of 4500 to 5000, leaving around 4000 more seats for match days going on a 9000 capacity, so is it going to sell out every week, or is it going to be a case of a good number of the new season ticket sales are people like me who would have gone to the game anyway, despite not having had one for the last 2 seasons? I know lots of regular attenders who have bought a season ticket purely because it makes life easier for them to obtain a ticket where they want to be now that demand is higher than previous seasons.

The point I'm making is that people seem to be assuming that there will be nowhere available on match days for walk ups, but as numbers stand, there will be spare seats somewhere I'd imagine. They may not be in the best places, but they will be there.

Are we going to be at capacity every home game and locking people out?

There would be a lot more match day walk ups and season tickets sold if you could see the actual game from those seats purchased.
It’s pretty obvious that people don’t want to sit in the Main stand

Quoted from Les Brechin

Barring the teams who are going to bring large followings (Bradford, Mansfield, Doncaster etc) I reckon we should be using the main part of The Osmond, behind the goal, for Town fans and put the away fans in the corner.

I concur. We did that multiple times last season so see no idea why we wouldn’t, unless any EFL rules prevent it.

Quoted from Mikey_345

It's definitely 9033 mate

The numbers on the https://gtfc.co.uk/visitors/ don't add up to that though. Although the page says capacity 9031 at the top, the individual stands add up to 8,777. No fixture at all-seater BP has ever topped circa 8,700 without the additional temporary seats. On top of that the Osmond allocation these days is never the full 1,884 stated and the capacity of the Upper will include directors box - not sure whether they are counted in the attendance. The Main Stand seats behind the technical area dugouts don't just have a restricted view, it is completely blocked so these are never sold.

All told the usable capacity of BP these days is probably more like 8,200 - 6,500 home and 1700 away.

I remember back in the day, many years ago, standing in the main stand area by the Osmond Corner. Was a Cup match I believe against either Burnley or West Ham, and I think the gate was around 22,000. Those were the days :)

Just renewed mine

now en route to catch to the airport for a few days in Berlin

UTM

Quoted from Hagrid

Just renewed mine

now en route to catch to the airport for a few days in Berlin

UTM

It’ll take your breath away

Quoted from 123614

I remember back in the day, many years ago, standing in the main stand area by the Osmond Corner. Was a Cup match I believe against either Burnley or West Ham, and I think the gate was around 22,000. Those were the days :)

I was stood in the open corner between what was then The Barretts and The Osmond by the away fans for the Everton game in 1979, was over 23000 there that night I think.

Quoted from Hagrid

Just renewed mine

now en route to catch to the airport for a few days in Berlin

UTM

Great city - was putting off going back there until after lockdown ended completely and now airports and flights are a mess I can't rsed with that. Are you there on the 29th - this gig will be amazing https://www.visitberlin.de/en/event/nick-cave-bad-seeds#:~:text=Nick%20Cave%20%26%20The%20Bad%20Seeds%2C%20one%20of%20the%20most%20intense,to%20Germany%20for%20two%20concerts.

An idea for a new ground to accommodate everyone?

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Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Great city - was putting off going back there until after lockdown ended completely and now airports and flights are a mess I can't rsed with that. Are you there on the 29th - this gig will be amazing https://www.visitberlin.de/en/event/nick-cave-bad-seeds#:~:text=Nick%20Cave%20%26%20The%20Bad%20Seeds%2C%20one%20of%20the%20most%20intense,to%20Germany%20for%20two%20concerts.

Berlin is an absolutely brilliant city. Amazing history and fantastic night out.

Quoted from Mikey_345

It's definitely 9033 mate

It definitely isn't.

Whe this was discussed on the dn35 blog stockwood said the real capacity was about 8200 if I recall correctly.

Loads of seats can't be used (behind dugouts, have to be used as buffers, etc etc as explained in another post earlier).

You've probably got about 7.5k home seats available max, for those games were away fans are in the corner. And of them a chunk are restricted view (plus loads of not so good view tickets which is anywhere in the main stand). Considerably less for the games with a big away following EVEN if we get our act together and allow town fans in the corner forbthose games which we never have before, maybe 7k. Roughly 6.5k home seats if we don't do that and a big away following means nonenof the osmond is able to be used by home fans.

Quoted from toontown

It definitely isn't.

Whe this was discussed on the dn35 blog stockwood said the real capacity was about 8200 if I recall correctly.

Loads of seats can't be used (behind dugouts, have to be used as buffers, etc etc as explained in another post earlier).

You've probably got about 7.5k home seats available max, for those games were away fans are in the corner. And of them a chunk are restricted view (plus loads of not so good view tickets which is anywhere in the main stand). Considerably less for the games with a big away following EVEN if we get our act together and allow town fans in the corner forbthose games which we never have before, maybe 7k. Roughly 6.5k home seats if we don't do that and a big away following means nonenof the osmond is able to be used by home fans.

I was on that pod and Debbie clearly said 9032. (46mins in on 28th April). I also double checked and asked someone who would know before posting.

There are occasions that may change due to segregation or other enforced reasons etc, but the official certified capacity is 9032. Whether that is the number available if we sold out, i don't know - you could be right (thumbup)

All this ambiguity around the capacity is a reason why the club should have a clear measure against this, and given the stance they've taken in public about a new ground I'd say it's an imperative for inclusion  as a KPI not optional.

Selling out the ground to me is available home capacity only.  Away capacity and any areas ommited from sale should be excluded entirely from the calculation.

I'd even be inclined to report on this in two ways using an unrestricted and restricted metric.  Clearly people are put off from paying to sit in the main stand, the current sales pattern proves that, the only question really is how many people are put off entirely by the view from those seats preventing the purchase altogether. There is an alternative available this season to those restricted views...an unrestricted view from ifollow.

Would  be nice to hear some more from the club around how they are considering responding to the wholy positive problem.

Am I the only one that’s sat in the main stand tonnes of times and never particularly had an issue with the view?

There’s a great account on instagram called ‘the padded seat’. Gives an insight into match day hospitality and how different clubs do things. There’s great days out from Leyton Orient, Wycombe etc as well as the bigger clubs out there. Would be great to see how towns differs from others

Quoted from Mikey_345

I was on that pod and Debbie clearly said 9032. (46mins in on 28th April). I also double checked and asked someone who would know before posting.

There are occasions that may change due to segregation or other enforced reasons etc, but the official certified capacity is 9032. Whether that is the number available if we sold out, i don't know - you could be right (thumbup)

I heard that pod too, Debbie definitely said the capacity was 9032. What was not said was the max home attendance figure, nor the away figure. So if theminimum away is 10% as quoted on here it would give a maximum home attendance of just over 8,000.

If the ST sales are about 4,750 then that would allow for 3,250 max for walk ins and 1,350 if all the capacity (1,900 ) was given to the away teams.

3925 the latest 👀!!
75 to go until the big 4k barrier is smashed.

So Debbie confirmed 9032...

On the seating plan there are;-

2441 in Main
1828 in Pontoon
1699 in Upper
811 in Lower

Thats 6779

9032 - 6779 = 2253

- 1800 in Osmond = 453

Block D of Upper and the Posh Boxes must then have 453 seats.

So 9032 sounds about right.

Simples.

Quoted from DB

I heard that pod too, Debbie definitely said the capacity was 9032. What was not said was the max home attendance figure, nor the away figure. So if theminimum away is 10% as quoted on here it would give a maximum home attendance of just over 8,000.

If the ST sales are about 4,750 then that would allow for 3,250 max for walk ins and 1,350 if all the capacity (1,900 ) was given to the away teams.

Think the away end capacity has always been quoted at 2,200. Don't think there's been any reduction on that.

Quoted from sam gy

Am I the only one that’s sat in the main stand tonnes of times and never particularly had an issue with the view?

No you’re not. I and many around me have had season tickets for years and we love it. I love it how people are speaking for me and have got it completely wrong!!

Quoted from Mikey_345

I was on that pod and Debbie clearly said 9032. (46mins in on 28th April). I also double checked and asked someone who would know before posting.

There are occasions that may change due to segregation or other enforced reasons etc, but the official certified capacity is 9032. Whether that is the number available if we sold out, i don't know - you could be right (thumbup)

Yep but that is no. Of seats which is not capacity for a football match. Saying about its 9032 without extra green seats.

Just checked and stockwood referred to absolute sell out as between 8.5k and 9k a few seconds before so not 8.2k I remembered.

It's vague I guess cos it depends on police requirements which Debbie also says, e.g. reduced capacity in the osmond with tarpaulin for that game.
So in the same pod they describe a gate of 7818 against stockport as a virtual sell out. I would think in the modern game it is unlikely the police will be allowing much more than 8.5k into BP.

Our absolute max capacity would be where all of the osmond was fans of the same team (so away supporters) as that would minimise segregation. So even with that 8.5k figure it's still only the pontoon, main and findus for home fans. It would be a lower max capacity for those games where town and away fans are sharing the osmond.

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

All this ambiguity around the capacity is a reason why the club should have a clear measure against this, and given the stance they've taken in public about a new ground I'd say it's an imperative for inclusion  as a KPI not optional.

Selling out the ground to me is available home capacity only.  Away capacity and any areas ommited from sale should be excluded entirely from the calculation.

I'd even be inclined to report on this in two ways using an unrestricted and restricted metric.  Clearly people are put off from paying to sit in the main stand, the current sales pattern proves that, the only question really is how many people are put off entirely by the view from those seats preventing the purchase altogether. There is an alternative available this season to those restricted views...an unrestricted view from ifollow.

Would  be nice to hear some more from the club around how they are considering responding to the wholy positive problem.

You’d think that reducing the price for those restricted view seats would encourage people to buy them

Quoted from toontown

Yep but that is no. Of seats which is not capacity for a football match. Saying about its 9032 without extra green seats.

Just checked and stockwood referred to absolute sell out as between 8.5k and 9k a few seconds before so not 8.2k I remembered.

It's vague I guess cos it depends on police requirements which Debbie also says, e.g. reduced capacity in the osmond with tarpaulin for that game.
So in the same pod they describe a gate of 7818 against stockport as a virtual sell out. I would think in the modern game it is unlikely the police will be allowing much more than 8.5k into BP.

Our absolute max capacity would be where all of the osmond was fans of the same team (so away supporters) as that would minimise segregation. So even with that 8.5k figure it's still only the pontoon, main and findus for home fans. It would be a lower max capacity for those games where town and away fans are sharing the osmond.

I’ve always said it should be the police job to police a full stadium , they can hardly say it’s a risk when we’ve had crowds of treble the current capacity with now bother .
The distance between the Findus lower and the Osmand is further than any Premiership segregation yet the still cover the last little section of the Lower with green nets , it’s absolutely pointless covering seats like that and a waste of good seats with good views

Quoted from toontown

Yep but that is no. Of seats which is not capacity for a football match. Saying about its 9032 without extra green seats.

Just checked and stockwood referred to absolute sell out as between 8.5k and 9k a few seconds before so not 8.2k I remembered.

It's vague I guess cos it depends on police requirements which Debbie also says, e.g. reduced capacity in the osmond with tarpaulin for that game.
So in the same pod they describe a gate of 7818 against stockport as a virtual sell out. I would think in the modern game it is unlikely the police will be allowing much more than 8.5k into BP.

Our absolute max capacity would be where all of the osmond was fans of the same team (so away supporters) as that would minimise segregation. So even with that 8.5k figure it's still only the pontoon, main and findus for home fans. It would be a lower max capacity for those games where town and away fans are sharing the osmond.

It is, as that is the officially certified number possible, so if you sold every seat in the ground it’s 9032. Which under some circumstances would be possible. That however often comes down depending on the away attendance, segregation and any other restrictions placed on the club.

Would imagine you cannot arrive at a number other than the official capacity as the requirements, circumstances and restrictions could change every game.

Quoted from Mikey_345

It is, as that is the officially certified number possible, so if you sold every seat in the ground it’s 9032. Which under some circumstances would be possible. That however often comes down depending on the away attendance, segregation and any other restrictions placed on the club.

Would imagine you cannot arrive at a number other than the official capacity as the requirements, circumstances and restrictions could change every game.

They must know that number on the day though or else how would they determine whether the ground was full or not and therefore be able to decide whether it was physically possible to sell a walk up ticket (appreciate that may rarely ever happen but I would have thought it was some kind of H&S requirement to have a process nevertheless).

The highest attendance I can see since all-seater, without the temporary seats is 8,689 v Fulham in the play-off semi in 98. On the basis that you wouldn't buy a ticket for a one-off game if you couldn't go this is what I would call a capacity crowd with minimal no-shows. At that game home fans were in the Osmond corner and Fulham fans were behind the Osmond goal, there was minimal segregation. 4 games exceeded that in years 2000-2002 with the temporary seats in situ - a couple in the successful Championship relegation battle at the end of the 2002 season. These were both circa 9,300. Chelsea in the cup a few years earlier when the seats were hired in was 9,700.

The Osmond capacity plus extra seats in Con Corner was 2,200. The Osmond itself including the Main corner is 1,884 - it says so on the GTFC site. Scunthorpe was the last time it was "full" - circa 1,700. Stockport were given circa 1,450 and I'm sure they could have sold more. 9031 (and the stand capacities add up to 8,777) might be some kind of nominal capacity for planning and or Stadium safety licence. There will never be 9k in BP though without some kind of additional capacity provided.

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

The highest attendance I can see since all-seater, without the temporary seats is 8,689 v Fulham in the play-off semi in 98. On the basis that you wouldn't buy a ticket for a one-off game if you couldn't go this is what I would call a capacity crowd with minimal no-shows. At that game home fans were in the Osmond corner and Fulham fans were behind the Osmond goal, there was minimal segregation. 4 games exceeded that in years 2000-2002 with the temporary seats in situ - a couple in the successful Championship relegation battle at the end of the 2002 season. These were both circa 9,300. Chelsea in the cup a few years earlier when the seats were hired in was 9,700.

The Osmond capacity plus extra seats in Con Corner was 2,200. The Osmond itself including the Main corner is 1,884 - it says so on the GTFC site. Scunthorpe was the last time it was "full" - circa 1,700. Stockport were given circa 1,450 and I'm sure they could have sold more. 9031 (and the stand capacities add up to 8,777) might be some kind of nominal capacity for planning and or Stadium safety licence. There will never be 9k in BP though without some kind of additional capacity provided.

I was at that game and in that corner. Not a great view but was great giving it to the Fulham fans when we scored only for it to be disallowed i think for offiside, and the Fulham fans with the aaaaaarhhhhhh, giving it back, but got the last laugh when we scored.

Also sat in the Osmond corner against Fulham, most of the Fulham fans seemed to be wearing shorts and sunglasses, don’t think many had been to Grimsby previously!

By my reckoning, we have sold approx. 550 NEW season tickets since the club announced a figure of “over” 1,400 newbies on 13th June (8 days ago), based on the decrease in seat availability since then (1,300 dropping to 750, 90% of which are in the Main Stand.

This takes us to somewhere in the region of 2,000 new holders, which I’d expect us to hit and announce at some point during the next 24 hours or so.

This also means that the existing ST holders + new ST total is approaching 5,400, leaving a very comfortable buffer for non-renewals. This, with payday, the earlybird deadline and several signings stop to come. Add to that, that we still appear to be selling 40+ new STs per day at present and we are looking at an absolutely staggering figure come 31st July.

Quoted from Mikey_345

It is, as that is the officially certified number possible, so if you sold every seat in the ground it’s 9032. Which under some circumstances would be possible.

Not for a football match it won't be.

What does 'new' mean though?

Is it someone who has never had one before, or is it people like me and my brother who had a hiatus from buying one but have purchased one for the coming season?

Is it just a case of the same sort of level of support, but with more season ticket holders among them?

Quoted from ginnywings

What does 'new' mean though?

Is it someone who has never had one before, or is it people like me and my brother who had a hiatus from buying one but have purchased one for the coming season?

Is it just a case of the same sort of level of support, but with more season ticket holders among them?

Additional to last season, is how I read it.

Quoted from Poojah

Additional to last season, is how I read it.

I suspect what Ginny is referring to is whether people who have moved seats have been classified as new STH. Especially those who’s old seats haven’t been unlocked on the system.

Quoted from Poojah

Additional to last season, is how I read it.

That's what I thought, so a good number will be regular attendees anyway.

Just trying to get a handle on what sort of average crowd we are likely to get after last season's excellent total.

As ever, it will depend on how well we are doing I suppose.

Quoted from Mariner_09

I suspect what Ginny is referring to is whether people who have moved seats have been classified as new STH. Especially those who’s old seats haven’t been unlocked on the system.

Partly yes, but also how many are regulars like myself who got fed up with scrambling for tickets last year and decided that committing to a season ticket was the prudent thing to do.

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

The highest attendance I can see since all-seater, without the temporary seats is 8,689 v Fulham in the play-off semi in 98. On the basis that you wouldn't buy a ticket for a one-off game if you couldn't go this is what I would call a capacity crowd with minimal no-shows. At that game home fans were in the Osmond corner and Fulham fans were behind the Osmond goal, there was minimal segregation. 4 games exceeded that in years 2000-2002 with the temporary seats in situ - a couple in the successful Championship relegation battle at the end of the 2002 season. These were both circa 9,300. Chelsea in the cup a few years earlier when the seats were hired in was 9,700.

The Osmond capacity plus extra seats in Con Corner was 2,200. The Osmond itself including the Main corner is 1,884 - it says so on the GTFC site. Scunthorpe was the last time it was "full" - circa 1,700. Stockport were given circa 1,450 and I'm sure they could have sold more. 9031 (and the stand capacities add up to 8,777) might be some kind of nominal capacity for planning and or Stadium safety licence. There will never be 9k in BP though without some kind of additional capacity provided.

That 8689 was only achieved with temporary seating. I was in it for that game as there were no seats left otherwise! There was just 1 temporary seating stand between the pontoon and the findus and it wasn't very big.

You can see it on the grimsby town classic clips of the match just after 6 mins in when Buckley goes walkabout.

https://youtu.be/uXVGE0BTQKA

So without temp seats 8.5k would seem to be an absolute max.

Quoted from ginnywings

That's what I thought, so a good number will be regular attendees anyway.

Just trying to get a handle on what sort of average crowd we are likely to get after last season's excellent total.

As ever, it will depend on how well we are doing I suppose.

Oh, absolutely. It's highly unlikely that we've attracted 2,000 randomers who had little interest in Town prior to mid-May, but there will still be a proportion who continue to pay for tickets by the game due to finances and / or work patterns.

But, and this is important, if 98%+ existing season ticket holders renew, and we continue to see decent sales of "new" season tickets, then we're going to be not far off having as many season ticket holders as our average attendance last season (which itself was well up on previous years). It's guaranteed income as we plan budgets for the season and we'll only need to sell a few hundred single match tickets per game to completely sell out out the traditional home areas.

Having that certainty over your income stream enables greater confidence in what you can spend, and it should mean we have one of the larger budgets in the division next season. That in turn gives you a greater chance of attracting better players, giving you a greater chance of success on the pitch, giving you a greater chance of filling the ground (including large chunks of the Osmond) on a regular basis, and so, for once, GTFC finds itself in a virtuous circle instead of the vicious one that's been biting us for nigh on 20 years.

I really do think there are some major parallels with Lincoln's rise from the ashes. New hope brought about by new ownership, a mood amongst the fans not seen for decades, an incredible, dramatic and successful season, and fans we didn't know we had coming out of the woodwork.

It's momentum, and it's massive.

Quoted from toontown

That 8689 was only achieved with temporary seating. I was in it for that game as there were no seats left otherwise! There was just 1 temporary seating stand between the pontoon and the findus and it wasn't very big.

You can see it on the grimsby town classic clips of the match just after 6 mins in when Buckley goes walkabout.

https://youtu.be/uXVGE0BTQKA

So without temp seats 8.5k would seem to be an absolute max.

I’m too young to remember that but it never fails to amaze how late and shocking a tackle that was on Handyside by Pesky! Cameraman nearly missed it!

Quoted from toontown

That 8689 was only achieved with temporary seating. I was in it for that game as there were no seats left otherwise! There was just 1 temporary seating stand between the pontoon and the findus and it wasn't very big.

You can see it on the grimsby town classic clips of the match just after 6 mins in when Buckley goes walkabout.

https://youtu.be/uXVGE0BTQKA

So without temp seats 8.5k would seem to be an absolute max.

Ah interesting - I was corporate for that game - with Conoco so I wouldn't have noticed that. That means the I think the Northampton game is the highest without temporary seating - 8,450

Quoted from Mariner_09

I suspect what Ginny is referring to is whether people who have moved seats have been classified as new STH. Especially those who’s old seats haven’t been unlocked on the system.

The club have appealed to those that were existing STH last season, but have bought seats in a new location to contact them to release their old seats - I suspect there will be a few in the circa 5.4k allocated / sold that come into that category - no doubt we'll see them dribbling through over the next few days as previously allocated seats come free.

Quoted from ginnywings

Partly yes, but also how many are regulars like myself who got fed up with scrambling for tickets last year and decided that committing to a season ticket was the prudent thing to do.

This is what I've been thinking about as I'm one of those you describe, as is my bro. Also partly for away ticket chances, though i'm not sure how much they've relatively increased. We averaged about 5400 home fans per game last season, meaning approximately 2000 on-the-gaters. Say we achieve 4800 season ticket holders this season, even riding high around the play offs, would we realistically see more than 6000 home fans? I'm not sure. Would love to be proved wrong, with home sell outs from the very first game

Quoted from Poojah

Oh, absolutely. It's highly unlikely that we've attracted 2,000 randomers who had little interest in Town prior to mid-May, but there will still be a proportion who continue to pay for tickets by the game due to finances and / or work patterns.

But, and this is important, if 98%+ existing season ticket holders renew, and we continue to see decent sales of "new" season tickets, then we're going to be not far off having as many season ticket holders as our average attendance last season (which itself was well up on previous years). It's guaranteed income as we plan budgets for the season and we'll only need to sell a few hundred single match tickets per game to completely sell out out the traditional home areas.

Having that certainty over your income stream enables greater confidence in what you can spend, and it should mean we have one of the larger budgets in the division next season. That in turn gives you a greater chance of attracting better players, giving you a greater chance of success on the pitch, giving you a greater chance of filling the ground (including large chunks of the Osmond) on a regular basis, and so, for once, GTFC finds itself in a virtuous circle instead of the vicious one that's been biting us for nigh on 20 years.

I really do think there are some major parallels with Lincoln's rise from the ashes. New hope brought about by new ownership, a mood amongst the fans not seen for decades, an incredible, dramatic and successful season, and fans we didn't know we had coming out of the woodwork.

It's momentum, and it's massive.

Put simply, speculating to accumulate, which is exactly what never happened with the past regime.

Not sure if this ha been raised in the thread, but with the rate of sales as they are and the clear reluctance it seems for people to buy season tickets in the main stand, could we not just put a limit on what we offer out to away supporters? Do the league stipulate a certain number that must be offered out based on maximum capacity?

As mentioned, there are only a small number of teams that will need a high number of tickets, could we therefore open up either the corner of the Osmond for home season ticket sales or simply offer that block only to away support, giving them I think around 500 or so tickets and house home fans (season tickets and walk in’s) behind the Osmond goal?

Quoted from ginnywings

Put simply, speculating to accumulate, which is exactly what never happened with the past regime.

100%, and it makes it a lot easier to take calculated risks when the money’s already in the bank.

Quoted from Mighty_Mariner

Not sure if this ha been raised in the thread, but with the rate of sales as they are and the clear reluctance it seems for people to buy season tickets in the main stand, could we not just put a limit on what we offer out to away supporters? Do the league stipulate a certain number that must be offered out based on maximum capacity?

As mentioned, there are only a small number of teams that will need a high number of tickets, could we therefore open up either the corner of the Osmond for home season ticket sales or simply offer that block only to away support, giving them I think around 500 or so tickets and house home fans (season tickets and walk in’s) behind the Osmond goal?

10 percent or 500 if 10 percent is less

Quoted from supertown

10 percent or 500 if 10 percent is less

Ah ok, so it would be feasible to keep the blocks behind the goal for away support and open up the Osmond corner for season ticket sales.

Quoted from Mighty_Mariner

Not sure if this ha been raised in the thread, but with the rate of sales as they are and the clear reluctance it seems for people to buy season tickets in the main stand, could we not just put a limit on what we offer out to away supporters? Do the league stipulate a certain number that must be offered out based on maximum capacity?

As mentioned, there are only a small number of teams that will need a high number of tickets, could we therefore open up either the corner of the Osmond for home season ticket sales or simply offer that block only to away support, giving them I think around 500 or so tickets and house home fans (season tickets and walk in’s) behind the Osmond goal?

Simply put, I can't see it. I think the minimum is 10%, should there be the demand. I think the club will want to retain the flexibility to have games where there are away fans in the corner, other games Town fans in the corner and other games, like the Stockport game, where away fans might be given the whole stand but allocated a bit below capacity. Due to the infrastructure and amenities it's not really feasible to segregate the stand any other way.

I was literally thinking the same yesterday.
I can't remember the figures so bare with my example.
Last season we had 3,500 season ticket holders and 1,500 walk ins.
This season are we just seeing more of those walk In fans getting season tickets or are we genuinely seeing more fans through the gate this season?
For example if we sell 4,500 season tickets will we still see around 1,500 walk ins or will that number half because they've got season tickets etc..
Either way, it looks like we should be having an absolute minimum of 5k each week, if we hit the ground running I can see us have an average attendance of over 6,500 whichll be amazing.

I strongly believe this is all down to the owners. They've transformed this club and town around massively already. The play offs and the way we won was incredible and gripped ALOT of neutral premiership fans, so I just hope those kind of people do go down to BP more and really pack the place out.

We were told by the previous regime and it’s hangers on that thousands weren’t staying away, that investment was difficult to find. Both statements have been debunked in the space of a year.

I do suspect we’ll see less ‘walk ups’ this year but that doesn’t matter so much because the club already has the money from the ST sale. I guess the key thing is, those precious walk ins have decided to invest, gamble and out their money up front, indicating they’re prepared to attend, in theory, all season. Something has made them so that.

I know a couple of STH who weren’t going to renew for personal reasons who have since changed their mind. They’ve seen the demand for tickets and recognise that it’s still worth having one rather than gambling and having to plan with a little more detail when they want to attend.

Having seen the thread about away followings I suspect the osmond may not be available as often as we would like but so be it. We won’t lose out on money but it may mean some home fans are left without a ticket. This is excrement for them and there’s a raft of reasons why they probably don’t have a ST etc but I’m expecting a buyback system to be introduced at some point. Equally, unless we’re sat in the top three, I suspect there will still be games where a ticket is relatively easy to come by, I’m thinking Salford, Barrow as examples.

Either way, it’s genuinely exciting being a town fan at the minute. The rapid turnaround is nothing short of a miracle and we’ve shifted thousands of season tickets with actually very little marketing.

What a club…

I havent bought a season ticket due to my shifts meaning I won't always be able to get there but I was going to buy an 1878 membership. Now I'm wondering if I'll be able to get a match day ticket at all! Brilliant effort from the club but I imagine a lot of casual match day goers are looking nervously at the season ticket sales!

i think it will be, as most things in life, somewhere between the 2 extremes.
There are lots of tickets for the main still available, plus there is the prospect of a buy back scheme and the chance the osmond will be open for 50-66% of games (& also League, FA and Tinpot cup matches which aren't as well attended)
On the other hand it's unlikely that you'll just be able to rock up to BP at 14.55 and think you'll just waltz in. If you haven't got a season ticket then attending will take a bit of forward planning. I suspect that it will mean buying your seat immediately the game becomes avaialble

i presume this is what happens at most well supported ,succesful clubs, but having laboured under Fenty's yoke for 20 years , it's a concept I'm unfamiliar with

I hope they sort out the door/queuing policy at the Blundell. Absolute joke.

Should have a bottle bar in that room on the right and the bouncers need to let more than 3 people in every 20 minutes.

I still believe as I have said in various posts since last October that if doing well our home crowd potential is being seriously underestimated and that what’s available currently at BP is a serious constraintt both in terms of capacity quality of view and facilities generally . You will say it’s not relevant today no one would have said it would as possible to average 14000 in the second half of 71/72 from a base of 4000 the year before. Yes crowd numbers never really responded in the Buckley era but crowds in English football then were half way they are now generally for various reasons. If we do well more people will want to go and if they can’t it will be a big constraint on our progress. I hope the club are looking into temporary seating as a matter of urgency.

I would also point it to hat with say 2000 more home sarson tickets and I he other 1200 or so to practical home capacity paying full price our revenue will be no greater possibly marginally less then from our home revenue from our actual average home gates last season given the substantial discount on season ticket price per gain. Someone else can do the precise maths .

I think the issue with temporary seats is waiting to see what season ticket figures are and taking it from there. Even though it’s a bigger outlay, i think that the covered option, if viable/available, is the best choice. Not that I’ve got any chance of getting to many home games this season!

Quoted from HerveJosse

I would also point it to hat with say 2000 more home sarson tickets and I he other 1200 or so to practical home capacity paying full price our revenue will be no greater possibly marginally less then from our home revenue from our actual average home gates last season given the substantial discount on season ticket price per gain. Someone else can do the precise maths .

That had occurred to me. My season ticket works out to £16.30 a game.

Last season I was paying £22 and went to almost every game.

Quoted from ginnywings

That had occurred to me. My season ticket works out to £16.30 a game.

Last season I was paying £22 and went to almost every game.

I would imagine though that many walk up attend less frequently, and that the pool of walk ups is drawn from a much larger group within the total population. Not all of those are going to be converted into season tickets as for many it won't be practical because for example they know they can only get to a half dozen games a season.

So practically I think we should still get a steady stream of people hoping to pay on the day even if the season ticket pool increases substantially. IMHO of course.

Think you’d need to determine the factors, % of people paying full whack for season tickets, and the % of reduced, same as those who pay on day - before you could forecast increased or decreased season/match day income - I’d like to think it will be increase this season regardless.

The long and short of it is the more who attend the better it is.

Just think back a few years - 2k or so season tickets and 1500 more on the day..3.5k attending regularly. That would be the case now if old regime still here..and we’d be looking at playing Dorking etc - rather than Doncaster et al.

We still need good walk-up sales so we have consistent income through the year, rather than getting most of the revenue in one go. I'm pretty confident that we'll still get 1000/1500 people paying on the day regardless of our ST sales.

Quoted from MarinerDevil

We still need good walk-up sales so we have consistent income through the year, rather than getting most of the revenue in one go. I'm pretty confident that we'll still get 1000/1500 people paying on the day regardless of our ST sales.

No reason why we shouldn't - Lincoln averaged about 1500 home pay on the day on top of 6500 STH, and we averaged just over 2k last season.

Ding ding.

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1539568248294965250

Quoted from MarinerDevil

Ding ding.

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1539568248294965250

Success breeds success, a concept that The Leech and his clique couldn't quite grasp.

that's 150 sold in 1 day; if that continues we will be 5000+ come pay day

Be even more after a signings announced today!

Incredible to hit 4000 after tickets have been on sale only for two weeks & a day.

The walk in takings will be massively dependent on form. If we start the season well again and are consistently in and the top seven and challenging at the sharp end, we’ll be selling out most weeks I’d imagine. If we’re 14th, with no chance of going anywhere, we’ll barely have anything on top of the STH. The reality is, with increased ST sales, therefore a bigger budget means we are more likely to challenge because we can sign better players, that in turn means more people will come. As someone above said, success breeds success.

Quoted from You stripes UTM

Be even more after a signings announced today!

Are we expecting one?

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

Are we expecting one?

Believe so, either today or tomorrow

Quoted from You stripes UTM

Believe so, either today or tomorrow

Is it Cesc? ;D

I think the fact that the club has asked the question about 5,000 there is an acknowledgment that they think we’ll reach that figure. I’ve said it before, but I remain adamant that we’ll finish closer to 5.5k than 5k.

To those questioning the material benefit of the uplift in sales, it’s effectively insurance against a difficult season whilst a sniff of success will see healthy pay as you go ticket sales. With the addition of the 250 corporate seats in the upper, away fans and individual match sales I think we’re going to be looking at minimum attendances of 6,000, at least for Saturday games.

Will more season ticket seats become available if people fail to renew theirs? I want 3 but struggling to get decent seats all together.

Quoted from RexFannies

Will more season ticket seats become available if people fail to renew theirs? I want 3 but struggling to get decent seats all together.

I’ve wondered that, if people don’t renew, and don’t tell the club they aren’t renewing. That seat isn’t available until after the discount deadline. This is a very minor issue as I’m guessing we’ll have 95%+ renewal rate. But that still leaves 100-150 tickets, perhaps in decent spots available. Presuming if any are any good though they’ll go to people who want to move.

Quoted from RexFannies

Will more season ticket seats become available if people fail to renew theirs? I want 3 but struggling to get decent seats all together.

The club did put out an appeal asking anyone who has renewed but have changed seats to let them know so that they can make their seat available to purchase.

I've renewed this morning and they are confident of smashing through the 5k barrier. It could be even higher as we have not really had any star signings yet (no disrespect intended) plus the fixtures out create a buzz, as does the kit launch so everything is going in the right direction.

Quoted from RexFannies

Will more season ticket seats become available if people fail to renew theirs? I want 3 but struggling to get decent seats all together.

I would explain your situation to the helpful ticket office staff. You might be best buying as close together as you can get prior to 19th so aw to get your discount. Then after the renewal deadline (currently 19th but I have been told it might be brought forward a bit cos of this issue) you can contact them to get moved somewhere that might have you together or closer together at least if a few newly empty sears allow it. But don't take my word for it speak to them and they will fill you in on the options.

Quick Q on season tickets if anyone knows, apologies if it’s been asked..

My Dad has purchased 3 season tickets for the family (I’m an exile so will use when I can and if not, others will go) am I able to link this to my online account when purchasing away tickets or does it simply ask me for the details when I book them? I used 1878 last year and it linked with my account automatically. Being an exile all my purchases will be online.

Quoted from pontoonlew

Quick Q on season tickets if anyone knows, apologies if it’s been asked..

My Dad has purchased 3 season tickets for the family (I’m an exile so will use when I can and if not, others will go) am I able to link this to my online account when purchasing away tickets or does it simply ask me for the details when I book them? I used 1878 last year linked with my account automatically. Being an exile all my purchases will be online.

I suspect if your dad bought the tickets only he can link other season tickets to his account

I know my boy, who's ticket I purchased, is linked to my account but don't believe he can link my ticket to his as I was the purchaser.

I'd give the club a quick call to get a definitive answer, the staff in there couldn't be more helpful if they tried.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

I suspect if your dad bought the tickets only he can link other season tickets to his account

I know my boy, who's ticket I purchased, is linked to my account but don't believe he can link my ticket to his as I was the purchaser.

I'd give the club a quick call to get a definitive answer, the staff in there couldn't be more helpful if they tried.

I can see 5000 easily achieved but this is likely to present a problem.

Some of those 5000 will have decided to buy even though they know there are games they will miss, due to work, holidays etc. They are buying effectively to guarantee a seat when they want one.

Historically, there are 400 - 500 season ticket holders that don't attend the games. This was when we had 3000 season ticket holders. Now we will have 5000, the number of empty seats is likely to be in the region of 700 plus.

Great for advance purchase but not so good when generating an atmosphere. I know there was a buy back system implemented towards the end of last season but that needs to be a very simple process for people to buy into.

It's a win win, more money for the club and some money back for the ST holder, but it has to be a simple process to succeed.

Quoted from ivanosandwich

Some of those 5000 will have decided to buy even though they know there are games they will miss, due to work, holidays etc. They are buying effectively to guarantee a seat when they want one.

This is me…I’ll be lucky to get to 2/3 of games because of work, but I knew season ticket sales would go through the roof so I’ve had to get one.

Quoted from ivanosandwich

I can see 5000 easily achieved but this is likely to present a problem.

Some of those 5000 will have decided to buy even though they know there are games they will miss, due to work, holidays etc. They are buying effectively to guarantee a seat when they want one.

Historically, there are 400 - 500 season ticket holders that don't attend the games. This was when we had 3000 season ticket holders. Now we will have 5000, the number of empty seats is likely to be in the region of 700 plus.

Great for advance purchase but not so good when generating an atmosphere. I know there was a buy back system implemented towards the end of last season but that needs to be a very simple process for people to buy into.

It's a win win, more money for the club and some money back for the ST holder, but it has to be a simple process to succeed.

I’m a season ticket holder but a combination of work and living an hour and a half away means I tend to miss five or six home games a season. It’s money I mentally write off at the start of the season, knowing that it will (in normal times) guarantee me away tickets and tickets to any rare big cup draws.

This season will be even worse, as I’ll miss the first three home games while I’m away on a long overdue holiday. I’d happily give my seat up, in the Lower Findus close to the halfway line, for free if it meant the club was able to get more people through the door and make some extra revenue. All it needs is an easy way for me to do so, and I’m sure many others feel the same.

Quoted from ivanosandwich

I can see 5000 easily achieved but this is likely to present a problem.

Some of those 5000 will have decided to buy even though they know there are games they will miss, due to work, holidays etc. They are buying effectively to guarantee a seat when they want one.

Historically, there are 400 - 500 season ticket holders that don't attend the games. This was when we had 3000 season ticket holders. Now we will have 5000, the number of empty seats is likely to be in the region of 700 plus.

Great for advance purchase but not so good when generating an atmosphere. I know there was a buy back system implemented towards the end of last season but that needs to be a very simple process for people to buy into.

It's a win win, more money for the club and some money back for the ST holder, but it has to be a simple process to succeed.

Think the club would need to limit it to games where they are likely to resell the tickets. If they do it every game when they are committing to spending 5-700 x £5 every match, and potentially £5 for every season ticket.

All well and good until 2000 people decide they can’t be bothered going to a rearranged Tuesday night match in March and the club have to pay £10k out with little possibility of recouping the cost.

Good idea in principle, but doesn’t give you much certainly from one week to the next.

Quoted from ska face

Think the club would need to limit it to games where they are likely to resell the tickets. If they do it every game when they are committing to spending 5-700 x £5 every match, and potentially £5 for every season ticket.

All well and good until 2000 people decide they can’t be bothered going to a rearranged Tuesday night match in March and the club have to pay £10k out with little possibility of recouping the cost.

Good idea in principle, but doesn’t give you much certainly from one week to the next.

Simple way to resolve - the seat goes back on the online sales system, seller takes the risk and the proceeds are split - maybe 60:40 seller:club? The club would need to be sure games were near to a sell out before implementing for a particular game, otherwise it would cannibalise its own revenue, but most games look like they will be. Tickets need to be available for games weeks in advance now so people can plan ahead and the club can assess demand before implementing.

Doesn’t sound particularly simple.

I think Lincoln do something like it and Leicester Tigers definitely did it when they were selling out regularly. Club would activate the scheme when they down to the last x no. of seats and invite STH who can make the game to relinquish their seats.

Do it through the Trust. Inform them you're not going to make it and they keep the money for selling the seat. A bit like a donation. Each week the Trust hands the club a list of donated seats to be sold.

I think the Trust members have enough to do/do enough voluntarily without adding more workload onto them, unless there’s more volunteers that want to help them of course..

Quoted from marinerjase

I think the Trust members have enough to do/do enough voluntarily without adding more workload onto them, unless there’s more volunteers that want to help them of course..

Agreed - there could 500+ resales to process for some games.

But if they kept all the money from those extra tickets being sold?

That would be a lot of cash to put back into extra facilities for fans.

To be fair it’s not hard to find someone yourself to lend your ticket to , if someone can’t make a game I’m sure they could soon give it to a mate

Quoted from ska face

Think the club would need to limit it to games where they are likely to resell the tickets. If they do it every game when they are committing to spending 5-700 x £5 every match, and potentially £5 for every season ticket.

All well and good until 2000 people decide they can’t be bothered going to a rearranged Tuesday night match in March and the club have to pay £10k out with little possibility of recouping the cost.

Good idea in principle, but doesn’t give you much certainly from one week to the next.

You'd only get any payment if the ticket was resold surely. And as mentioned it would have to be when a sell out was all but assured as otherwise the club would be better off selling tickets it didn't have to pay a fiver for

It seems Pontoon totally sold out, 3 left in the lower and a scattering in the upper, mostly restricted view, surely the club will have to do something now ie temporary seats in the corners ?

Quoted from gytone

It seems Pontoon totally sold out, 3 left in the lower and a scattering in the upper, mostly restricted view, surely the club will have to do something now ie temporary seats in the corners ?

It is not a true figure, seats from last season are still reserved until the 19th of July, after that they will be released, expecting there to be a number of seats becoming available from people who are not reviewing or who are moving seats.

I still haven't renewed, along with the group I sit with, that's 10 still to buy.

Great effort so far.

Quoted from brigg_mariner

It is not a true figure, seats from last season are still reserved until the 19th of July, after that they will be released, expecting there to be a number of seats becoming available from people who are not reviewing or who are moving seats.

I still haven't renewed, along with the group I sit with, that's 10 still to buy.

Great effort so far.

Yeah I understand that, but can't see that many not renewing to be honest. Just don't see how there's going to be many sales on or before matchday, good problem to have and I hope the club have a contingency plan.

Quoted from gytone

Yeah I understand that, but can't see that many not renewing to be honest. Just don't see how there's going to be many sales on or before matchday, good problem to have and I hope the club have a contingency plan.

Just seen the below on socials

Current capacity:

Pontoon - 1,669
Main - 2,350
Upper - 2,007
Lower - 826
Total - 6,852

Last sold update - 4,000 (58.38%)

Remaining to either renew or sell - 2,852 (41.62%)

Quoted from gytone

It seems Pontoon totally sold out, 3 left in the lower and a scattering in the upper, mostly restricted view, surely the club will have to do something now ie temporary seats in the corners ?

The temporary seating is a good idea but it has to be cost effective. IMO it would also have to be covered as I'm sure if it was pi**ING down in December or January then there would be a reluctance for the non ST fans to attend on spec. It is a great situation to be in and certainly not something I have experienced before in the 56 years I have been watching town.

Quoted from rancido

The temporary seating is a good idea but it has to be cost effective. IMO it would also have to be covered as I'm sure if it was pi**ING down in December or January then there would be a reluctance for the non ST fans to attend on spec. It is a great situation to be in and certainly not something I have experienced before in the 56 years I have been watching town.

Yeah, it needs to be covered. Nobody is going to want to watch us play Crawley in the pouring rain.

Can't be sure but I don't think the Lower is covered is it?

Quoted from brigg_mariner

Just seen the below on socials

Current capacity:

Pontoon - 1,669
Main - 2,350
Upper - 2,007
Lower - 826
Total - 6,852

Last sold update - 4,000 (58.38%)

Remaining to either renew or sell - 2,852 (41.62%)

1,748 - Upper Tier (figure doesn't include VIP/Director's Box block)
811 - Lower Tier
1,728 - Pontoon Stand
2,393 - Main Stand

6,670 - TOTAL

4176 sold as per the latest GTFC tweet just now.

Stockport hit just over 5k at the end of their discount period. I think we'll at least match them - we only need to sell at an average of 40 per day.

Quoted from Les Brechin

4176 sold as per the latest GTFC tweet just now.

Do we know how many are new STH's or how many from last season are still to renew, Les ?

Quoted from Peeler_Crab

Do we know how many are new STH's or how many from last season are still to renew, Les ?

It’s not been announced but having kept a casual eye on sales, I would estimate it’s very close to 2,000 new, give or take a hundred or so.

Around 1,300 yet to renew, myself included.

Quoted from Poojah

It’s not been announced but having kept a casual eye on sales, I would estimate it’s very close to 2,000 new, give or take a hundred or so.

Around 1,300 yet to renew, myself included.

Thank you, Poojah

Quoted from Poojah

It’s not been announced but having kept a casual eye on sales, I would estimate it’s very close to 2,000 new, give or take a hundred or so.

Around 1,300 yet to renew, myself included.

I think we'll be at circa 5.3k come close on the 19th.

There does need to be good systems to re-allocate season tickets to others.  Also to ensure that as many fans as possible can cheer the team on.

As exiles 2 of us got season tickets for the first time, for next season. It is ironic that this is because it was hard getting 2 seats together in the Upper Findus last season.

It was said above that season ticket holders can pass on tickets to mates if they cannot attend any game.  As exiles all are group have season tickets.  We do not have or know mates to pass tickets on to.

Any reallocation system needs to take these circumstances into account.

The other consideration with a re-sale/issue scheme is the problem with the very restricted seats.

The club will have to, as discussed at length above, make sure they've sold enough 'normal' tickets before considering a resale scheme.  Otherwise, again as already highlighted, it sabotages their own sales.   But realistically how many times are these very restricted seats going to be bought?

If you're wanting to go to, let's say Donny at home, you rock up at the ticket office and ask for a ticket in the Main Stand and are told there's only very restricted views available.  You'll know full well there's going to be a few tickets waiting to be re-sold, but the club need to wait until all the very restricted seats are sold so you'll probably wait.  If everyone takes this view, everyone will be waiting and we'll probably just lose the sale to start with.  You can understand someone not wanting to sit smack bang behind a post knowing there will be decent seats available elsewhere.

Personal view is that we need to get temp seats in the corners asap and effectively use some of them to replace the very restricted view seats in terms of the number of tickets we look to sell first.   Any seats that aren't classed as of a restricted view in the ground, be it permanent or temp are the ones we look to sell first, next comes the resale ones (appreciate the club might financially be cutting their nose off here, or running a risk of it) and then as a last resort offer the very restricted views.

Buy back seats to accumulate points (not money back) or give it to a friend. Atleast that way if you give it to someone everyone has a decent view (unless it's 100% totally sold out obviously)

Quoted from Poojah

I’m a season ticket holder but a combination of work and living an hour and a half away means I tend to miss five or six home games a season. It’s money I mentally write off at the start of the season, knowing that it will (in normal times) guarantee me away tickets and tickets to any rare big cup draws.

This season will be even worse, as I’ll miss the first three home games while I’m away on a long overdue holiday. I’d happily give my seat up, in the Lower Findus close to the halfway line, for free if it meant the club was able to get more people through the door and make some extra revenue. All it needs is an easy way for me to do so, and I’m sure many others feel the same.

I used to miss between two and five home games each season by going abroad on holiday. The upper figure was when games got rearranged while I was booked to be away. I normally let someone have it for free or a small donation.

One positive about Covid is I've realised I'm not really that fussed about going away having retired now. I can enjoy the sunshine at home anytime I want.

Not one clash between Grimsby and Brentford home fixtures next season. I'd always plump for the Town game but that is some result. Best go and do the lottery this weekend.

Quoted from brigg_mariner

Just seen the below on socials

Current capacity:

Pontoon - 1,669
Main - 2,350
Upper - 2,007
Lower - 826
Total - 6,852

Last sold update - 4,000 (58.38%)

Remaining to either renew or sell - 2,852 (41.62%)

What % did someone say the club have to keep back for ticket sales each week?
If its...
20% 1,350ish will be kept off sale meaning we only have around 1,500 seats left to sell for season tickets.
10% being 675ish with 2,200 odd seats left available for season tickets.

Quoted from lukeo

What % did someone say the club have to keep back for ticket sales each week?
If its...
20% 1,350ish will be kept off sale meaning we only have around 1,500 seats left to sell for season tickets.
10% being 675ish with 2,200 odd seats left available for season tickets.

I wasn't aware that the club had to keep ticket sales back for each home game. I know they have an obligation towards visiting away supporters but not home fans.

Whether or not it is a regulation or moral obligation, a minimum of 10% should be kept back for those dedicated fans that cannot financially commit to a season ticket.

Agreed, it’ll be a little bit sad knowing that exiles who love the club but who aren’t able to go more than a few times a season will struggle to get tickets… obviously the context is fantastic and I hope every single seat is sold out every game, I just hope the club does look at any opportunity to hopefully increase capacity in any way possible, IF we can. I trust them

Quoted from male private Nale

Whether or not it is a regulation or moral obligation, a minimum of 10% should be kept back for those dedicated fans that cannot financially commit to a season ticket.

You'd imagine there will be at least 10% for walk ins, unless we sell about 7000 season tickets.

They may have to go in the Main Stand or Osmond, but you can't expect the club to not sell the best seats as season tickets if the demand is there. Money up front trumps fans who may or may not turn up.

Quoted from ginnywings

You'd imagine there will be at least 10% for walk ins, unless we sell about 7000 season tickets.

They may have to go in the Main Stand or Osmond, but you can't expect the club to not sell the best seats as season tickets if the demand is there. Money up front trumps fans who may or may not turn up.

I agree. Take the money. Make some available, of course, but sell 90% as season tickets. You’d regret not doing that if we were sat in 18th place with zero walk-ups. We’re in no position to turn down money up front.

What this does show is we could really do with a new ground…..

Quoted from male private Nale

Whether or not it is a regulation or moral obligation, a minimum of 10% should be kept back for those dedicated fans that cannot financially commit to a season ticket.

So the club retain 10% of home seats for walk ins instead of selling them for ST's. But if on a match day only half of those tickets are sold then that is a potential loss of possible income. I know it is hard for those fans who can't commit to a ST but I don't see it as a moral obligation.

Quoted from Heisenberg

I agree. Take the money. Make some available, of course, but sell 90% as season tickets. You’d regret not doing that if we were sat in 18th place with zero walk-ups. We’re in no position to turn down money up front.

What this does show is we could really do with a new ground…..

I agree with your sentiments or revamp BP, but unless we have capacity (or near capacity ) gates then 1878 have said a new ground is not the immediate priority.

I think we should embrace what 1878 have given us, EFL status, and wait till the end of the current season. A full house at almost all home games may change their thinking, but as JS said it has to be financially viable.

I'm sure it's 5% for general sale

Another 4 will be sold tomorrow, unfortunately was always going to wait for nephews payday today but didn’t envisage this level of season ticket purchase, This fan base really is something special! I know all clubs think their fans are the best but we have to be genuinely up there, we get so many comments from other clubs, leagues and social media accounts, more so for our away support and rightly so!

I’ll have to purchase for the main stand, I’ve sat in there in my younger days so not too fussed hut hoping we can swap seats once renewal date passes for perhaps upper or lower, however I’m very aware the chance of 4 seats together due to non-renewals is about as likely as that roll-necked guy down Humberstone Ave with very questionable taste in decor (I refuse to say his name) developing a moral compass or at the very least some rudemental understanding of how to run and develop a football club, even remotely successfully.

Ok we got a promotion under him back to the league but even that started as an underhand approach for Hurst and Scott which ended with them resigning their post at Boston only to join Town a day later. One can only speculate if this was initiated to avoid paying their contracted release clauses, you know, what a professional owner/non-chairman would do when interested in another teams manager, not just simply use it to raise a social status and further an aspirational political career in the Town, which I’ve absolutely had an end goal of replacing Martin Vickers as the local Tory MP at some stage.

What a shame that that rascal Alex May came along and scuppered those plans, turna out Karma is a real female dog!

Do the club have a reserve list of sorts for first dibs on non-renewal or first come first served on the 19th?!

Just as the Season Ticket thread starts to fade we get this gentle and endearing nudge for existing STH'S to renew. Well spoken Alfie!

https://gtfc.co.uk/where-all-mariners-belong-alfies-story/

How many have we sold up to now? It's gone quiet the last few days

You can generally take it as given that as soon as there’s an update, it’s posted on here within about 2 minutes. Same for people asking if there’s any signings - if there’s any news, you’ll know about it.

Last update was 4226 on Saturday night. Imagine it’ll pick up a bit after today with it being payday for some.

https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1540373730005860355

It might have been mentioned on here earlier but what is the most season tickets we have ever sold in a season?

Quoted from Les Brechin

It might have been mentioned on here earlier but what is the most season tickets we have ever sold in a season?

I believe Kristine quoted it at around 3,400 from the 98/99 season. We've comfortably beaten it, obviously.

Paul Hurst's Black and White Legion

Quoted from Mariner16

I'm sure it's 5% for general sale

Steve Wraith tolld me it was 15% for general sale a couple of weeks ago.

https://mobile.twitter.com/krispygreen84/status/1538609043257929732

For what it’s worth, I reckon we’ll probably find a 1000 or so available most match days, it’s the away games, or a significant amount that will cause the headache.

Quoted from ska face

https://mobile.twitter.com/krispygreen84/status/1538609043257929732

Some further information on this would be helpful.Has the club held back specific seats to meet this requirement or will they stop selling the seats advertised for sale when only 5percent are left. If the latter and looking at what’s available this morning we appear to be close to that.

Quoted from HerveJosse

Some further information on this would be helpful.Has the club held back specific seats to meet this requirement or will they stop selling the seats advertised for sale when only 5percent are left. If the latter and looking at what’s available this morning we appear to be close to that.

I think we’ll be alright. On the basis of 5%, we’d need to hold back somewhere in the region of 300 seats. With 600+ still available in the Main Stand (and over 40 in the Findus), it’s unlikely we’ll get down to that level with new sales having understandably slowed now.

We might shift another 100 or so when payday lands, but we’re not going to be troubling 95% of home capacity.

Quoted from aldi_01

For what it’s worth, I reckon we’ll probably find a 1000 or so available most match days, it’s the away games, or a significant amount that will cause the headache.

Will obviously be good if we can open The Osmond to Town fans most games, only about 4 or 5 teams are going to bring a large enough following to warrant giving them the whole stand.

Quoted from Les Brechin

Will obviously be good if we can open The Osmond to Town fans most games, only about 4 or 5 teams are going to bring a large enough following to warrant giving them the whole stand.

Agreed, but I was thinking more about our fans for away games. There’s definitely going to be a handful next year which will be a full on bun fight…

Quoted from Poojah

I think we’ll be alright. On the basis of 5%, we’d need to hold back somewhere in the region of 300 seats. With 600+ still available in the Main Stand (and over 40 in the Findus), it’s unlikely we’ll get down to that level with new sales having understandably slowed now.

We might shift another 100 or so when payday lands, but we’re not going to be troubling 95% of home capacity.

Maths isn't my strongest suit, but 5% of home capacity is more than 300 isn't it?

Quoted from ginnywings

Maths isn't my strongest suit, but 5% of home capacity is more than 300 isn't it?

It was a very quick calculation, but I was working off a home capacity of 6,500, of which 5% would be 325, so “in the region of 300”.

I might of underestimated the number of gone seats slightly, but I wouldn’t have thought I’m far out.

Quoted from Poojah

It was a very quick calculation, but I was working off a home capacity of 6,500, of which 5% would be 325, so “in the region of 300”.

I might of underestimated the number of gone seats slightly, but I wouldn’t have thought I’m far out.

Why 6500?

Are you saying that 'home capacity' is just the three stands that are for home fans only? Seems a tad arbitrary.

As someone else said, more detail is needed.

Quoted from ginnywings

Why 6500?

Are you saying that 'home capacity' is just the three stands that are for home fans only? Seems a tad arbitrary.

As someone else said, more detail is needed.

Well, yeah, there will be times this season where the Osmond Stand will be occupied entirely by away supporters, unless we take the unprecedented step of reducing our away capacity to circa 1,400 and take the two blocks closest to the Main Stand.

If we did that, then home capacity becomes more like 7,000, but that would still mean we’d only have to keep circa 350 seats ‘spare’, which doesn’t drastically change the situation.

Quoted from ginnywings

Why 6500?

Are you saying that 'home capacity' is just the three stands that are for home fans only? Seems a tad arbitrary.

As someone else said, more detail is needed.

Current capacity:

Pontoon - 1,669
Main - 2,350
Upper - 2,007
Lower - 826
Total - 6,852

Quoted from brigg_mariner

Current capacity:

Pontoon - 1,669
Main - 2,350
Upper - 2,007
Lower - 826
Total - 6,852

Is this the official max home attendance figure ( excluding the Osmond stand ) or does the club use a different figure?

Wrexham have sold just under 7000 season tickets!

That's surely going to be a record average for The National League next season!

All this talk of home end capacity, do we know if the 'red zone' is still in place behind the benches? Not seen an EFL position on having these in place since we left.

Quoted from Mariner16

All this talk of home end capacity, do we know if the 'red zone' is still in place behind the benches? Not seen an EFL position on having these in place since we left.

The covid buffer zone thing you mean? Pretty sure those have gone now.

https://twitter.com/mark_stilton/status/1540413370842681347

the latest graph. We are still selling c100 per day; it's going to be close to 5000 isn't it?

Quoted from MarinerDevil

4400 now.

A thousand more than the previous best and counting.

Where are the naysayers now?

4,400 and we haven't even had July pay pay. Unbelievable Jeff.

Quoted from ginnywings

A thousand more than the previous best and counting.

Where are the naysayers now?

The previous regime wasn't holding us back though.

I don’t know the numbers but Jason said all the season ticket revenue goes on players so I’d imagine Paul Hurst can shop a bit differently now.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

I don’t know the numbers but Jason said all the season ticket revenue goes on players so I’d imagine Paul Hurst can shop a bit differently now.

I think Paul Hurst shopped differently since May 2021, shackles taken off and let to manage the team and recruitment.

https://twitter.com/mark_stilton/status/1541836899849064448

the latest graph , still looks lovely

Quoted from HertsGTFC

I don’t know the numbers but Jason said all the season ticket revenue goes on players so I’d imagine Paul Hurst can shop a bit differently now.

Hope so not seeing to much evidence of a decent budget at the minute, still early days but would love to see a quality signing like Dallas.

Quoted from Humbercod

Hope so not seeing to much evidence of a decent budget at the minute, still early days but would love to see a quality signing like Dallas.

We signed the best defender from the best defence in the NL. There's no doubt we'll have had to beat off a lot of other interest for him.

Quoted from mariner91

We signed the best defender from the best defence in the NL. There's no doubt we'll have had to beat off a lot of other interest for him.

It’s an interesting tactic, for sure…

https://youtu.be/QvffxxhoBIk

Quoted from Humbercod

Hope so not seeing to much evidence of a decent budget at the minute, still early days but would love to see a quality signing like Dallas.

I guess “the budget” includes covering wages and signing on fees etc. I hope people aren’t expecting us to make £1-2 million worth of purchases in terms of transfer fees.

Quoted from mariner91

We signed the best defender from the best defence in the NL. There's no doubt we'll have had to beat off a lot of other interest for him.

Really? I would think a lot of league clubs would regard signing a non league player as a bit of a gamble and we’ve signed 3 in effect. As I said still early days but talk of players wanting to stay at Solihull rather than play league football, Clifton allegedly turning down a really excrement first offer, losing one of our best players to a league rival will raise questions. And now if rumours are to be true we’re in for a league 2 journeyman.
Some fans seem to think with the new owners and season ticket sales we’re going to have this great league 2 budget at that could still be the case, all I’m saying is that it’s not been evident so far but either way fully behind Hurst getting the best out of the team.

Not getting enough attention in the non-footy board anymore?

Quoted from Humbercod

Really? I would think a lot of league clubs would regard signing a non league player as a bit of a gamble and we’ve signed 3 in effect. As I said still early days but talk of players wanting to stay at Solihull rather than play league football, Clifton allegedly turning down a really excrement first offer, losing one of our best players to a league rival will raise questions. And now if rumours are to be true we’re in for a league 2 journeyman.
Some fans seem to think with the new owners and season ticket sales we’re going to have this great league 2 budget at that could still be the case, all I’m saying is that it’s not been evident so far but either way fully behind Hurst getting the best out of the team.

It's not how much you spend but how you spend it. I'm sure a certain amount of the budget will be held back until January. Hurst will get a feel for how his squad performs for the first part of the season and adjust accordingly.

Quoted from Poojah

It’s an interesting tactic, for sure…

https://youtu.be/QvffxxhoBIk

I'd go there for the right player.

Quoted from ska face

Not getting enough attention in the non-footy board anymore?

always appreciated you’re great debating skills.

Quoted from Humbercod

Really? I would think a lot of league clubs would regard signing a non league player as a bit of a gamble and we’ve signed 3 in effect. As I said still early days but talk of players wanting to stay at Solihull rather than play league football, Clifton allegedly turning down a really excrement first offer, losing one of our best players to a league rival will raise questions. And now if rumours are to be true we’re in for a league 2 journeyman.
Some fans seem to think with the new owners and season ticket sales we’re going to have this great league 2 budget at that could still be the case, all I’m saying is that it’s not been evident so far but either way fully behind Hurst getting the best out of the team.

I know you love a mass debate ..................

Quoted from Humbercod

Really? I would think a lot of league clubs would regard signing a non league player as a bit of a gamble and we’ve signed 3 in effect. As I said still early days but talk of players wanting to stay at Solihull rather than play league football, Clifton allegedly turning down a really excrement first offer, losing one of our best players to a league rival will raise questions. And now if rumours are to be true we’re in for a league 2 journeyman.
Some fans seem to think with the new owners and season ticket sales we’re going to have this great league 2 budget at that could still be the case, all I’m saying is that it’s not been evident so far but either way fully behind Hurst getting the best out of the team.

For me, too much is made of this “non league” thing! Top half of the conference national is easily as good as the bottom half of league 2. We would’ve definitely had to beat off competition for Maher and some of that competition are likely to have been league clubs.

Quoted from Humbercod

always appreciated you’re great debating skills.

Ska is great debating skills?

Quoted from Humbercod

always appreciated you’re great debating skills.

Maybe you should learn to appreciate bofa instead

Quoted from Bignic69

For me, too much is made of this “non league” thing! Top half of the conference national is easily as good as the bottom half of league 2. We would’ve definitely had to beat off competition for Maher and some of that competition are likely to have been league clubs.

It will always be theoretically speaking regarding top half conference, bottom league 2, but the proof in the pudding is that very few league 2 signings are coming from non league. Just maybe they know something the Red Cross clowns don’t!
The vast majority of Non league players are plying their trade there for a reason hopefully we get lucky and our new signings adapt well.

Funny thing is I only responded to a couple of posts that insinuated Hurst has a decent budget for this level - “he can shop differently now” the “shackles are off” I know we’re all excited but let’s be realistic because we don’t actually know do we.

Quoted from ska face

Maybe you should learn to appreciate bofa instead

Nothing more to say your super sharp wit is to much😂

When Hurst looks at a player, he doesn't have the luxury of time to developed. He has to be sure that they are going to fit in quickly. He gets it right more times than not, so I trust his judgement on players ability rather than what level they are playing at. After all, that is why we have just had a successful season.

Quoted from mimma

When Hurst looks at a player, he doesn't have the luxury of time to developed. He has to be sure that they are going to fit in quickly. He gets it right more times than not, so I trust his judgement on players ability rather than what level they are playing at. After all, that is why we have just had a successful season.

I don’t think to many people would disagree with you unless you’re an Ipswich town fan.

Quoted from Humbercod

It will always be theoretically speaking regarding top half conference, bottom league 2, but the proof in the pudding is that very few league 2 signings are coming from non league. Just maybe they know something the Red Cross clowns don’t!
The vast majority of Non league players are plying their trade there for a reason hopefully we get lucky and our new signings adapt well.

Funny thing is I only responded to a couple of posts that insinuated Hurst has a decent budget for this level - “he can shop differently now” the “shackles are off” I know we’re all excited but let’s be realistic because we don’t actually know do we.

Had we not been promoted, there would have been a few league clubs looking to sign our "non league players". More chance of getting them too.

Lots of players with potential end up in non league; some a lot lower than the National League, and end up working their way back once given game time and development.

Potential and character are more important than what league they have been playing in.

Quoted from ginnywings

Had we not been promoted, there would have been a few league clubs looking to sign our "non league players". More chance of getting them too.

Lots of players with potential end up in non league; some a lot lower than the National League, and end up working their way back once given game time and development.

Potential and character are more important than what league they have been playing in.

Fair point if your a cash strapped club, I don’t think Mark Hughes will be thinking to much about potential and character, will make it even sweeter when we finish above them 🤞

What Hurst is putting together is to continue with the promotion squad ( except Fox) and add to it. Keep the feel-good factor, and team spirit and build a squad for promotion. In contrast to the beginning of last season, there is an expectation in the squad (Clifton vid ) that things are going to happen, the club as a whole is moving in an upward direction.

I can only see us doing well again this season with a united squad and no prima donnas. Going up.

Quoted from Humbercod

It will always be theoretically speaking regarding top half conference, bottom league 2, but the proof in the pudding is that very few league 2 signings are coming from non league. Just maybe they know something the Red Cross clowns don’t!
The vast majority of Non league players are plying their trade there for a reason hopefully we get lucky and our new signings adapt well.

Funny thing is I only responded to a couple of posts that insinuated Hurst has a decent budget for this level - “he can shop differently now” the “shackles are off” I know we’re all excited but let’s be realistic because we don’t actually know do we.

A few things to mull over ...

We are still paying Fenty off ,..................

Years of letting the ground and the pitch fall apart is costing alot of money to put right

Years of neglect at the training ground is costing a lot to put right

Years of lack of back room staff to support the management is costing a lot to put right

But we are moving forward with hope , something we haven't done for 20 years

So yes I'd say the shakles are off

Quoted from DB

Is this the official max home attendance figure ( excluding the Osmond stand ) or does the club use a different figure?

Someone on twitter counted them all from the GTFC website aparently.

Season ticket passes now available to collect.

Quoted from ginnywings

Season ticket passes now available to collect.

Sales now over 4400 by the way with the shirt launch I expect us to hit 5k in the very near future.UTM

Quite a queue down at the ticket office, but most were collecting, with one or two renewing.

They had the National League Trophy on the counter. :)

Quoted from ginnywings

Quite a queue down at the ticket office, but most were collecting, with one or two renewing.

They had the National League Trophy on the counter. :)

Have we nicked it off Stockport? :)

Quoted from Les Brechin

Have we nicked it off Stockport? :)

Yep; Dave Moore cycled over to Manchester and nicked it.

It's a hot day and my brain is addled.

Quoted from ginnywings

Yep; Dave Moore cycled over to Manchester and nicked it.

It's a hot day and my brain is addled.

What brain? ;D

At least I'm one of the few people who has photographic proof that I do actually have one. :)

I think I must have a brain because it hurts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOHMg7IkzHU

Quoted from ginnywings

I think I must have a brain because it hurts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOHMg7IkzHU

I'm sure you remember offering to buy me a pint Guinness and a case of red wine. 8)

Tomorrow and Friday should bring big amounts of money into the club! Pay day. News shirts launched. Season tickets still on sale cheap... I hope everyone who can afford it goes and splashes their cash.
Let's hope by next Friday we're over 5,500. Although I'd settle for 5k! Unreal.

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1542887324375203841?t=DUlPKLFqbJgmVaH0u3p2SA&s=19

4,608 gone and two and a half weeks 'til the deadline. Still haven't got mine yet as I'm incredibly lazy. 5,000+ in no doubt whatsoever.

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1542887324375203841?cxt=HHwWgoCynZr2t-kqAAAA

Just beat you Poojah ;)

We're absolutely nailed on for 5000 now, think pay-on-the-day'ers will be a little nervous now.

Quoted from Poojah

4,608 gone and two and a half weeks 'til the deadline. Still haven't got mine yet as I'm incredibly lazy. 5,000+ in no doubt whatsoever.

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1542887324375203841?cxt=HHwWgoCynZr2t-kqAAAA

It's an unthinkable level of support given previous season ticket sales

Quoted from MarinerDevil

Just beat you Poojah ;)

We're absolutely nailed on for 5000 now, think pay-on-the-day'ers will be a little nervous now.

You did. Have a lollipop. :P

I have assumed all along that someone had missed a load of renewals or they'd come in under the radar but we'd end up at around 4500. That would have been amazing but the fact we're going to have more than 5000 season ticket holders is just incredible.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

I have assumed all along that someone had missed a load of renewals or they'd come in under the radar but we'd end up at around 4500. That would have been amazing but the fact we're going to have more than 5000 season ticket holders is just incredible.

In knob-waving terms it would be nice to top Stockport (5k) or even Lincoln (5.4k). If we had a stand like the Co-op - 5,700 capacity with great sight lines, we would match Lincoln I think.

It really does show how much potential this club has had laid dormant that the previous regime failed to tap into and even denied existed. It might be a long process, but I feel this is just the beginning.

https://twitter.com/mark_stilton/status/1542915675634679814

Quoted from jimgtfc

It really does show how much potential this club has had laid dormant that the previous regime failed to tap into and even denied existed. It might be a long process, but I feel this is just the beginning.

To be honest I am flabbergasted that the new regime decided to put season ticket sales out now, instead of waiting for the World Cup to finish in order to cash in on the crest of an England wave to boost sales. Ludicrous, lost out on around 2k extra st sales I reckon.

😜

Quoted from moosey_club

To be honest I am flabbergasted that the new regime decided to put season ticket sales out now, instead of waiting for the World Cup to finish in order to cash in on the crest of an England wave to boost sales. Ludicrous, lost out on around 2k extra st sales I

😜

If this is humour bring back Morecambe & Wise

Quite a sizeable number collecting tickets and still newbies and renewals happening today. The consensus seems to be now Town will see 5.5k STH for the coming Season.

I have spoken to the Trust and hopefully in the next week or so there will be some news on the 1878 tickets for those who for whatever reason can’t commit
to a season ticket . Hopefully it will be put out across social media etc and our many shift workers and exiles will see a way of getting to games . UTM

only 1 left in ponny, 1 in the lower , 30 in the upper (half of them restricted)

so, in reality, your remaining option is the main, where there are still 300+ available

Quoted from forza ivano

only 1 left in ponny, 1 in the lower , 30 in the upper (half of them restricted)

so, in reality, your remaining option is the main, where there are still 300+ available

Bloody hell, that’s phenomenal. If renewals and further purchases make this a reality which it could well do you’d expect the club to run a STH buy back scheme for people like myself who has a season ticket but can’t often make night games due to being an exile.

Also we’ll need to be careful to reflect away allocations to visiting clubs fan bases such as Stevenage, Crawley etc.. who’ll only bring a few 100.

Think Northampton should be given the absolute minimum, 8-900 or whatever it is, for the first game and get town fans in all ends. Will be a great atmosphere.

Quoted from ska face

Think Northampton should be given the absolute minimum, 8-900 or whatever it is, for the first game and get town fans in all ends. Will be a great atmosphere.

Nailed on gate of 7k+ and possibly even 8k

Interesting that Debbie Cook says the club are looking to extend the capacity at blundell park in the statement about shirt sales.

Quoted from jimgtfc

Interesting that Debbie Cook says the club are looking to extend the capacity at blundell park in the statement about shirt sales.

Green seats in each corner is my guess 😉

Managed to get mine sorted today, first time since our previous promotion back to the EFL.

Had issues which meant i couldn't commit to a season ticket, still there every week though, but i for one can not wait for the season to start now!

A sleeping giant has been awoken..

Got mine Friday - still plenty buying - 25 in front when I joined the queue - 25 or so behind me when I left

Last 600 seats remaining now following what looks like a decent bit of post-payday activity over the weekend. Estimates of between 2,200 and 2,300 new STs meaning new plus last season’s existing holders takes us over the 5,500 mark.

Even allowing for a small degree of attrition, we’ll get very close to that figure which is absolutely remarkable. Expect the announcement of the 5,000 barrier being broken in the early part of next week.

Quoted from Poojah

4,608 gone and two and a half weeks 'til the deadline. Still haven't got mine yet as I'm incredibly lazy. 5,000+ in no doubt whatsoever.

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1542887324375203841?cxt=HHwWgoCynZr2t-kqAAAA

It's an unthinkable level of support given previous season ticket sales

Quoted from 1mickylyons

It's an unthinkable level of support given previous season ticket sales

Mark Stilton’s graphs do a brilliant job of illustrating how this season’s season ticket sales just transcend everything that’s gone before.

https://mobile.twitter.com/mark_stilton/status/1543587371588935681

Quoted from Poojah

Mark Stilton’s graphs do a brilliant job of illustrating how this season’s season ticket sales just transcend everything that’s gone before.

https://mobile.twitter.com/mark_stilton/status/1543587371588935681

But they told us it couldn’t be done…

Quoted from aldi_01

But they told us it couldn’t be done…

We need a fans forum only now we need to open at least one stand to accommodate those wanting to attend.Great times

it would be interesting to compare to the other seasons, like 88-89, 90s, 98 etc

I am DONE

with this land called Grimsby ??)

Just been and renewed our 4 tickets was a dozen people queuing up outside the ticket office .. 3 people serving were very efficient so got sorted quickly.. numbers are crazy this year

Quoted from TwoLeftFeet

Just been and renewed our 4 tickets was a dozen people queuing up outside the ticket office .. 3 people serving were very efficient so got sorted quickly.. numbers are crazy this year

Remarkably we are still selling a few tickets each day to new STH - only 20 left in the Upper and lower with the Pontoon sold out, and still selling a few each day in the Main. 90% of home capacity sold / allocated which - the highest in the League outside the Premiership?

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Remarkably we are still selling a few tickets each day to new STH - only 20 left in the Upper and lower with the Pontoon sold out, and still selling a few each day in the Main. 90% of home capacity sold / allocated which - the highest in the League outside the Premiership?

19 left in the Upper (12 of which are restricted view) and nothing remaining in the Lower as it stands. Around 550 left in the Main, so yeah, we’re north of 90% of regular home capacity sold, not allowing for any lapses renewals.

It might actually improve the atmosphere around the ground. People who couldn't commit to a season ticket but will still go reasonably regularly who would have been sat elsewhere in the ground will be forced into the Main Stand and this might mean the Main Stand makes a bit more noise than usual. It's going to be very interesting to see how attendances pan out and how the club will cope.

Quoted from mariner91

It might actually improve the atmosphere around the ground. People who couldn't commit to a season ticket but will still go reasonably regularly who would have been sat elsewhere in the ground will be forced into the Main Stand and this might mean the Main Stand makes a bit more noise than usual. It's going to be very interesting to see how attendances pan out and how the club will cope.

It's the drainage system that worries me 😂. Seriously though the PA System needs to be working properly this season

Quoted from It Bites

It's the drainage system that worries me 😂. Seriously though the PA System needs to be working properly this season

Have to agree with that, our PA system is sub standard at best...
Was told it was I'm a worse condition that expected and needed replacing wholesale and the cost was astronomical..also, I believe, the club were struggling to find a suitable tradesperson to do all the necessary work to bring it from 1922 to 2022.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Have to agree with that, our PA system is sub standard at best...
Was told it was I'm a worse condition that expected and needed replacing wholesale and the cost was astronomical..also, I believe, the club were struggling to find a suitable tradesperson to do all the necessary work to bring it from 1922 to 2022.

In the past, for big games, I seem to recall that we’ve hired a large, freestanding speaker and sat it between the Pontoon and Main Stand. Not a perfect solution and more of a workaround than solving the problem, but possibly worthy of consideration if remotely viable from a cost point of view.

Quoted from Poojah

In the past, for big games, I seem to recall that we’ve hired a large, freestanding speaker and sat it between the Pontoon and Main Stand. Not a perfect solution and more of a workaround than solving the problem, but possibly worthy of consideration if remotely viable from a cost point of view.

That's where the temporary seating will be ;)

Good evening. Does anybody know who to contact at the club regarding supplying and installing a new PA system at Blundell Park?

Quoted from Cambs Mariner

Good evening. Does anybody know who to contact at the club regarding supplying and installing a new PA system at Blundell Park?

Hope this helps

https://gtfc.s4cms.co.uk/contact-us/

Quoted from DB

Hope this helps

https://gtfc.s4cms.co.uk/contact-us/

Thank you.

4,775 sold as of now... (thumbup)

4775 now according to the club. 5k this week then surely? Hoping for more than that if possible but maybe that is being greedy.

Will be great to see the home ends just about full all season at any rate.

Quoted from Peeler_Crab

4,775 sold as of now... (thumbup)

So we are selling about 80 per day atm. If that continues to 19th July we will be at 5,900, which seems improbable, but actually, the stadium plan currently reflects a number as high as that. The club have asked for those that have moved seats or are not definitely not renewing to release their seats and the odd seat is coming back but at the current rate it's no more than a few per day and they are being resold.

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

So we are selling about 80 per day atm. If that continues to 19th July we will be at 5,900, which seems improbable, but actually, the stadium plan currently reflects a number as high as that. The club have asked for those that have moved seats or are not definitely not renewing to release their seats and the odd seat is coming back but at the current rate it's no more than a few per day and they are being resold.

I think we’ll land somewhere between 5,250 and 5,500. Something like a 60% YoY increase, in top of what was already higher than usual sales last season. It’s more or less doubled from our last season pre-Covid. Incredible.

Quoted from Poojah

I think we’ll land somewhere between 5,250 and 5,500. Something like a 60% YoY increase, in top of what was already higher than usual sales last season. It’s more or less doubled from our last season pre-Covid. Incredible.

Anyone know how many corporate places we have - the boxes plus block D of the Upper? Are these sold out as well?

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Anyone know how many corporate places we have - the boxes plus block D of the Upper? Are these sold out as well?

I think they’re pretty chocca even in ‘normal’ times, so I’d be pretty confident they are sold out.

Gonna be an absolute nightmare going for a urine at half time 🤣🤣

Quoted from Wiley2405

Gonna be an absolute nightmare going for a urine at half time 🤣🤣

More portaloos needed.

Quoted from ginnywings

More portaloos needed.

You will have to use the three portaloos left on the seafront after armed forces weekend.

I was inquiring about the availability of McMenemy's for booking the occasional exile jolly boy day - it's £72 per head for meal and match ticket this season, but was also told by the ticket office that 1,000 seats will be available for match-day walk-ups from 20th July. Not sure whether these are seats that have been held back, are in the Osmond, or extra capacity in the corners, or a combination.

Quoted from Wiley2405

Gonna be an absolute nightmare going for a urine at half time 🤣🤣

About £8 off eBay. ;D

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Quoted from Nelly GTFC

About £8 off eBay. ;D

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Can you get them in club colours?

Quoted from AussieMariner

Can you get them in club colours?

Haha, a few pieces of electrical tape acound it and some black and white spray cans, soon make the urine bottle iconic.;D

Quoted from Nelly GTFC

Haha, a few pieces of electrical tape acound it and some black and white spray cans, soon make the urine bottle iconic.;D

Merchandise opportunity for the club shop maybe?

But the one for the club you hate most - Stevenage for example

Quoted from Nelly GTFC

About £8 off eBay. ;D

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Is that a p1ss take ? 😉

You wouldnt one in club colours if you were a Wolves, Hull, Newport or Cambridge fan!

Quoted from Wiley2405

Gonna be an absolute nightmare going for a urine at half time 🤣🤣

Never a problem 30 odd years ago in the pontoon, didn’t even have to leave your place🤣🤣

Wondered why i never felt cold when stoos in the Ponny!

5k is definitely possible and think we will do it. 5.5k I think is realistically out of range. Nearly everyone surely now has a ST/renewed who wants to.

Quoted from Nelly GTFC

About £8 off eBay. ;D

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Need these as well

Quoted from petethemariner

Wondered why i never felt cold when stoos in the Ponny!

Love the new rail seating plan

Not sure how many games i'll be able to make this season due to reloacting but i've just bought a season ticket on impulse.

Don't know how its going to go down with the missus ;D

Quoted from lukeo

5k is definitely possible and think we will do it. 5.5k I think is realistically out of range. Nearly everyone surely now has a ST/renewed who wants to.

The graph shows 4,700 ST sold in 26 days, yet in previous years they were still selling on day 80 or mid-August.
What is not known is how many seats are theoretically ST's and what are Walk In's.
It seems that 5,000 could by on by first game at BP.

Quoted from lukeo

5k is definitely possible and think we will do it. 5.5k I think is realistically out of range. Nearly everyone surely now has a ST/renewed who wants to.

I know some who are going to renew but not done so yet .Some just like to hang on as long as possible .Not sure why

I've got to renew 3 season tickets still. Ive just been hanging on because we've had alot of expense latley car issues and holiday.

Quoted from lukeo

5k is definitely possible and think we will do it. 5.5k I think is realistically out of range. Nearly everyone surely now has a ST/renewed who wants to.

I save £1 a week for my season ticket since 2019 - but can't renew yet as I am still £3 short and time is running out. Hopefully my 10p Round Robin will come up in time.

Not linked to she-wees or portapotties or anything but I believe there’s a way of linking friends and families season tickets. Can someone talk me through it please? Thanks.

Quoted from LH

Not linked to she-wees or portapotties or anything but I believe there’s a way of linking friends and families season tickets. Can someone talk me through it please? Thanks.

In your account click ‘view my details’, then if you scroll down there’s a section named ‘linked accounts’.

Click on ‘request new link’ and enter the email address of the person you want to link with. They will then get an email confirmation link which, once clicked, will link your accounts together.

On those not yet renewed, according to a post by Lisa on FB there are 500 ST not yet renewed and they are expecting 200 of those to do so.

Quoted from Poojah

In your account click ‘view my details’, then if you scroll down there’s a section named ‘linked accounts’.

Click on ‘request new link’ and enter the email address of the person you want to link with. They will then get an email confirmation link which, once clicked, will link your accounts together.

Sorted, thanks. 👍

115 to go…

https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1544992275553460224

4,930. Only 5 non-restricted view seats left outside the Main stand. Who’d have think it, eh?

https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1545329067964129281

Looks like today could be today…

https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1545364111852199936

Quoted from Poojah

Looks like today could be today…

https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1545364111852199936

I guarantee you’re right - today is definitely today.

Never in my life thought I’d see us shift 5k season tickets.

Quoted from Heisenberg

I guarantee you’re right - today is definitely today.

Tomorrow it won’t be.

If somebody had said in May 2021 " In fourteen months' time we'd sell 5,000+ season tickets " nobody would have believed them.

Congratulations to all who bought them for showing your support in Town.

Quoted from ska face

Never in my life thought I’d see us shift 5k season tickets.

Me too. Gonna be 5200-5300 after the non-renewed ones are snaffled

Quoted from Poojah

Tomorrow it won’t be.

I had to take the opportunity to mock you, Poojah, they’re too rare.

Just think how much better we’d be doing if we weren’t run by a pair of bloody tyre kickers 😉
UTM

Quoted from Heisenberg

I had to take the opportunity to mock you, Poojah, they’re too rare.

You should have a word with my wife.

5000 tickets sold will mean a tidy little sum in the coffers, even if the average cost is £200 (I think someone on here worked it out to be about £225) it would amount to between 1m and 1.125m.

Yes, a lot of it goes straight back into the running of the club but surely there must be a decent wodge of cash available to Hurst for his wheelings and dealings.

Just an incredible response from the fans of the club to sound board leadership and a successful national league campaign. Although not on this scale, we’ve seen similar previously. I anticipate that the current administration will use this to leverage further progress and confine the previous 20 years to the bowels of history, where it belongs.

Massive well done to all.

Fenty missed a huge opportunity in 2016 Lincoln showed that . Thank goodness we now have owners and people working at the Club who through hard work and good communication are finally tapping into the goodwill and support many people have for our great club.Good times are coming let's carry on backing the club to the hilt

Makes you wonder how many refused to attend under the previous regime doesn't it.

Quoted from promotion plaice

Makes you wonder how many refused to attend under the previous regime doesn't it.

Nobody if you believe the previous regime and the sycophants…

Quoted from 1mickylyons

Fenty missed a huge opportunity in 2016 Lincoln showed that . Thank goodness we now have owners and people working at the Club who through hard work and good communication are finally tapping into the goodwill and support many people have for our great club.Good times are coming let's carry on backing the club to the hilt

I think Lincoln sold just over 5,000 season tickets when they returned to the league in 2017. Nice to see we're there or thereabouts.

Love it and let the good times roll, only thing that panics me slightly is the away tickets and how they will manage them. Really wish the points gained from last season would count. Although silver lining is we can watch via another means 😉 than miss out altogether. UTFM

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

5000 tickets sold will mean a tidy little sum in the coffers, even if the average cost is £200 (I think someone on here worked it out to be about £225) it would amount to between 1m and 1.125m.

Yes, a lot of it goes straight back into the running of the club but surely there must be a decent wodge of cash available to Hurst for his wheelings and dealings.

I believe JS said ALL season sales money would go into the team's budget.

Quoted from DB

I believe JS said ALL season sales money would go into the team's budget.

Yes. He said every penny would be spent on the squad.

The extra season tickets are fans paying in advance, so pay on the day sales will be a lot lower. Season tickets are cheaper over the season so in a round about way, over the season we will actually loose money, assuming we average around 5,500. In other words, it isn't "extra" money, but money being paid up front.

Quoted from mimma

The extra season tickets are fans paying in advance, so pay on the day sales will be a lot lower. Season tickets are cheaper over the season so in a round about way, over the season we will actually loose money, assuming we average around 5,500. In other words, it isn't "extra" money, but money being paid up front.

This is correct .However the Club in this instance already have 5k seats sold per game.Now if its hammering it down and blowing a gale on a Tues night vs assorted non descript opposition it doesn't matter financially if Fred and Wilma don't attend.Money in the bank what's not to like?

Secured income (money already in the bank) makes planning of budgets so much easier. Any business owner will tell you that. It also frees up resources to generate additional revenue streams and i'm sure the owners have plenty of ideas for that. These guys know what they're doing.

The Club does have the season ticket money though. If we had a Scunthorpe style season then pay as you go number of fans would reduce. Maybe swings and roundabouts.

Great problem that the home capacity is now an handicap to progress .I have every confidence our owners will sort

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

The Club does have the season ticket money though. If we had a Scunthorpe style season then pay as you go number of fans would reduce. Maybe swings and roundabouts.

If we only get 26 points this season I'll volunteer to be strapped to the swings and roundabouts in my Town shirt and have Melton Mowbray pork pies thrown at me...(sheeite did I just say that...)

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

If we only get 26 points this season I'll volunteer to be strapped to the swings and roundabouts in my Town shirt and have Melton Mowbray pork pies thrown at me...(sheeite did I just say that...)

Not that it will happen, but do you prefer brown or red sauce on your pork pies.

Quoted from mimma

The extra season tickets are fans paying in advance, so pay on the day sales will be a lot lower. Season tickets are cheaper over the season so in a round about way, over the season we will actually loose money, assuming we average around 5,500. In other words, it isn't "extra" money, but money being paid up front.

Not necessarily.

The people buying “new STs”, if you like, aren’t guaranteed to be the same people who were the coming on a regular basis but paying on the day. Some will be, but I know quite a few people who have now gone in on a ST having probably only done one or two games a season, max, in the past.

Pay on the days will be people who’s circumstances haven’t changed to the extent where buying a ST makes sense, so exiles, shift workers and those who can’t justify a £340 outlay. Plenty more are going to fancy coming down given that atmospheres will be better, it’s more of an occasion and friends might have a ST.

Would also expect the club to be able to be a bit more targeted with their marketing this season as they no-longer need to try and fill 5.5k seats every match. If all they can do is squeeze in 1500-2000, with most of that in the Osmond, then they don’t have to be so broad-brushed with marketing. They might be able to better see the impact that an exiles day, or family offer (like they’ve run in the past) might have this season.

Quoted from DB

Not that it will happen, but do you prefer brown or red sauce on your pork pies.

Just a dab of mustard with each bite actually...

This coming season will no doubt give us our highest average league gate since the old division One days at the turn of the century.

Possibly even beating those days too.

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

5k sold...

Not much of a fanfare but great news.

Quoted from mimma

The extra season tickets are fans paying in advance, so pay on the day sales will be a lot lower. Season tickets are cheaper over the season so in a round about way, over the season we will actually loose money, assuming we average around 5,500. In other words, it isn't "extra" money, but money being paid up front.

It allows the board to plan, as they know how much they have as against money they may have. A bad run up to Xmas could ruin planning
for the rest of the season normally, but now they have a "captive" audience. If the club didn't want to sell "cheap" ST they would have put a max on it.

Some Premier clubs have a lower percentage of ST to total capacity as a walk-in ticket makes a better return. They can sell their walk in tickets 3 or 4 times over.

Grimsby is not there yet, but maybe?

So with 5,000 we’ve banked 1.25 - 1.5m?

Hell of a boost. Well done all, UTFM

and just imagine if ...a big if ....we get the long over due cup luck with a plumb draw televised .......many a club have had that revenue boost to gain promotion

Great achievement well done everyone that's bought a shirt / ST.

I wonder what the age groups are based on the ST sold, just to get an idea of the age group attending. Do we have an aging fanbase etc.

I'm sure they have the data for being able to do something like below for example.

16-30
31-45
46-60
61-80

Quoted from Meza

Great achievement well done everyone that's bought a shirt / ST.

I wonder what the age groups are based on the ST sold, just to get an idea of the age group attending. Do we have an aging fanbase etc.

I'm sure they have the data for being able to do something like below for example.

16-30
31-45
46-60
61-80

Sadly, I'm in the last age group.

Quoted from ginnywings

Sadly, I'm in the last age group.

I’m more depressed than you - I’m JUST in the penultimate one, but my son isn’t even in the 1st one yet!!!

Quoted from Heisenberg

I’m more depressed than you - I’m JUST in the penultimate one, but my son isn’t even in the 1st one yet!!!

I'm with you on that one. I'm 60 and my son is eight. Fortunately after supporting Man United, since Ronaldo returned, he has asked for a GTFC shirt, with Macatee on the back, after watching his first game against Stockport County and the play offs on TV.

Probably been said before but how many seats aree available to home supporters (not including Osmond) I strongly believe they'll be sold out every weekend.

I'm thinking there could be a really good podcast to be done with the 3 musketeers,which focuses solely on finances, marketing, analytics of the fanbase n customer spend areas where there are improvements to be made the on line store etc etc

Quoted from Cambs Mariner

I'm with you on that one. I'm 60 and my son is eight. Fortunately after supporting Man United, since Ronaldo returned, he has asked for a GTFC shirt, with Macatee on the back, after watching his first game against Stockport County and the play offs on TV.

That goes to show how those groups mean little - I’m 47, he’s 15, so not really in your bracket (except, officially, it IS in your bracket!!).

Can’t imagine how I would cope having another kid at 52, fair play mate!

Quoted from Heisenberg

That goes to show how those groups mean little - I’m 47, he’s 15, so not really in your bracket (except, officially, it IS in your bracket!!).

Can’t imagine how I would cope having another kid at 52, fair play mate!

I also have a 11 year old daughter, a 35 year old son and a 39 year old daughter. Age is just a number.

Quoted from Cambs Mariner

I also have a 11 year old daughter, a 35 year old son and a 39 year old daughter. Age is just a number.

Age is just a voltage, Duracell

Quoted from Fette Schlange

Age is just a voltage, Duracell

I am an electrician so you are probably right.

Quoted from forza ivano

I'm thinking there could be a really good podcast to be done with the 3 musketeers,which focuses solely on finances, marketing, analytics of the fanbase n customer spend areas where there are improvements to be made the on line store etc etc

I'm expecting something after the 19th when non-renewals are released, including an announcement on extra capacity. It's been hinted by DC in a quote and by a ticket office staff member that I spoke to.

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

I'm expecting something after the 19th when non-renewals are released, including an announcement on extra capacity. It's been hinted by DC in a quote and by a ticket office staff member that I spoke to.

That sounds interesting!

Steering clear of the ‘how much has this thrown into the transfer kitty’ or, ‘does this mean we pay off the tax dodger’ discussion. What I’d like to see personally is the uptake of new junior ST’s. These young chaps and chapesses are the future of our great club, every ticket and shirt converted from the premiership is potentially 50 years of revenue. Sometimes the exuberance of youth is misunderstood by the ‘mature’ fans (or in my case, existing mature and entering relic), we need to encourage and embrace, we were all juniors once.

Messed up season ticket wise in the upper, a lot going on, selling our house, pay as you go for me and my wife if we can get in.

Quoted from forza ivano

That sounds interesting!

If you listen to interview on the New Investor thread, it's pretty clear the Osmond is going to be split - JS said (circa 3 min 30) they want to fill the ground primarily with Town fans and then look at extra capacity after that. Interesting that he referred to 9.5k capacity twice - we don't have 9.5k seats now - that was the capacity when we had the extra seats in the corners but perhaps we still have the planning consent rights to that 9.5k and so that is the next thing we do after better using the Osmond. If we have the historic planning rights to 9.5k capacity, it will avoid an expensive and protracted planning process with all the objections on parking and traffic that would entail.

Honestly my read on that was just that he didn't know what the capacity of the ground actually is, rather than there being some kind of subtext to the point.

That's not a criticism, seems that the actual number of seats that can be used at a game is eminently difficult to establish.

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

Honestly my read on that was just that he didn't know what the capacity of the ground actually is, rather than there being some kind of subtext to the point.

That's not a criticism, seems that the actual number of seats that can be used at a game is eminently difficult to establish.

I’d imagine that, and to be fair, it’s not exactly the most important thing he needs to know. Christ, there’s a bout 7 million comments on here debating the actual capacity, the important thing is they’re trying to find a solution and accommodate more fans. What a problem to have…

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

Honestly my read on that was just that he didn't know what the capacity of the ground actually is, rather than there being some kind of subtext to the point.

That's not a criticism, seems that the actual number of seats that can be used at a game is eminently difficult to establish.

He may have been told we have planning approval for a seating capacity of 9.5k (in 2003 we certainly did), we just don't have that many seats in the ground at the moment.

There’s no planning history relating to the temporary seating at BP, not sure if it was a requirement when first erected (though my suspicion is that it probably was required and just not obtained).

Interestingly there are a couple of approved applications from the early 90s for extensions to the Findus Stand, but nothing available to view online.

As for the capacity, seems most likely that the Osmond is going to be split most of the time rather than any new seats.

Quoted from ska face

There’s no planning history relating to the temporary seating at BP, not sure if it was a requirement when first erected (though my suspicion is that it probably was required and just not obtained).

Interestingly there are a couple of approved applications from the early 90s for extensions to the Findus Stand, but nothing available to view online.

As for the capacity, seems most likely that the Osmond is going to be split most of the time rather than any new seats.

I doubt we needed it for temporary seats - as we went from 17k to circa 9.5k within the same planning unit without "development" ie new building. Unless there is "abandonment" of use (I doubt it as we've continued to use the stadium) we probably still have it to enable the corners to be used - AP will certainly understand this. Yes it seems Plan A is to split the Osmond.

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

He may have been told we have planning approval for a seating capacity of 9.5k (in 2003 we certainly did), we just don't have that many seats in the ground at the moment.

He might well have been told that but he didn't say anything about planning capacity, he said the capacity is 9.5k so even with 5k season tickets sold anyone who wants a ticket will still be able to get one.

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

He might well have been told that but he didn't say anything about planning capacity, he said the capacity is 9.5k so even with 5k season tickets sold anyone who wants a ticket will still be able to get one.

That's where I think he may have been a little creative in what he said...because clearly, we don't have 9.5k seats at BP at the moment. If we need to we can get to 9.5k by putting the temporary seats in (as we have done in the past - attendance v Chelsea 9,634 1995, is the highest all-seater at BP). I know he didn't say that, but that's the only explanation I can give for that statement unless he got it wrong...!

What is the retailable capacity about 8.5k?

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

What is the retailable capacity about 8.5k?

Was 22,484 when we beat Exeter back in ‘72!

Few months ago people on here moaning about Hurst. Now we can't everyone in! 😀

Quoted from exiledmeggie

Was 22,484 when we beat Exeter back in ‘72!

Yes but that included seating on the Barrett’s roof pre health and safety.

Didn’t we also use the temporary “floodlight” seats in the corners for that game?

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

What is the retailable capacity about 8.5k?

Cant be much more than that. I think someone on here identified the highest sales without temporary seating in our current seating set up as 8,400 odd against Northampton in 1998. Of course taht was with policing of a quarter or a century ago, it would almost certainly be tougher (I.e. more restrictive) now. Not sure if that was with an away sell out tho, I would assume it was.

Quoted from Bristol Mariner

Few months ago people on here moaning about Hurst. Now we can't everyone in! 😀

If we lose a few games on the trot, the moaners will be back!

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

That's where I think he may have been a little creative in what he said...because clearly, we don't have 9.5k seats at BP at the moment. If we need to we can get to 9.5k by putting the temporary seats in (as we have done in the past - attendance v Chelsea 9,634 1995, is the highest all-seater at BP). I know he didn't say that, but that's the only explanation I can give for that statement unless he got it wrong...!

Wiki quotes 9,052 as all seater.

Quoted from GrimPol

Wiki quotes 9,052 as all seater.

Its been covered before on here before - its wrong; we've never had more than 8,458 in without the temporary seats - someone corrected me about the Fulham game - there were temporary seats there for that game.

Quoted from HerveJosse

Yes but that included seating on the Barrett’s roof pre health and safety.

The posh illegitimates getting into the upper Barrett’s again

1878 membership is available again for those, like myself, who can't commit to every game but will likely go to about half.

I’m sure I have a distant memory of Town fans on the roof of the Barrett’s doing the ‘Grimsby Spreaders’ (mooning) at the away fans. I have Barnsley in mind ??

Quoted from Civvy at last

I’m sure I have a distant memory of Town fans on the roof of the Barrett’s doing the ‘Grimsby Spreaders’ (mooning) at the away fans. I have Barnsley in mind ??

Sounds like a burlesque group I wouldn't want to watch.

Quoted from Civvy at last

I’m sure I have a distant memory of Town fans on the roof of the Barrett’s doing the ‘Grimsby Spreaders’ (mooning) at the away fans. I have Barnsley in mind ??

Happened at my first game v Blackpool in August 1979. A 4 3 win and off the pitch cabaret thrown in too. Needless to say I was hooked that day.

Quoted from mariner91

Sounds like a burlesque group I wouldn't want to watch.

When I tell people that the Grimsby equivalent of the nationally recognised ‘doing a moony” is called ‘pulling a spreader’, it largely results in utter revulsion.

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Its been covered before on here before - its wrong; we've never had more than 8,458 in without the temporary seats - someone corrected me about the Fulham game - there were temporary seats there for that game.

Yeah, but the Osmond was split between Town & Fulham fans so was segregated which loses seats.

Post-1995 the capacity was always stated as 8,750.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Yeah, but the Osmond was split between Town & Fulham fans so was segregated which loses seats.

Post-1995 the capacity was always stated as 8,750.

Presumably we lose some for the required covid segregation too or is that requirement now relexed?

5000 sold 450 available for sale still (Main Stand) 200 Exec ( per JS interview )200 still to renew (per JS interview ) Osmond 2100 total. Total 7950 Attendance for Stockport game virtual sellout 7818.
Conclusion 9500 or 9000 seem a long way out and odd if making decisions based on either of those numbers

Osmond is just under 1900 not 2100. Stockport were given and sold 1,450. Splitting the Osmond is Plan A and is dependent on negotiations with the police. The numbers reported as sold look conservative; I renewed 1878 today and was told availability is only likely to be Main Stand and Osmond, subject to the police approving it, because non renewals in the Upper and Lower will get snapped up by those who have bought restricted views and Main and wanting to relocate. Then there will be ST resales - for games likely to be near sell out - so most games. I actually think there will need be a Plan B now after what I was told today. The police could scupper Plan A.

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Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Osmond is just under 1900 not 2100. Stockport were given and sold 1,450. Splitting the Osmond is Plan A and is dependent on negotiations with the police. The numbers reported as sold look conservative; I renewed 1878 today and was told availability is only likely to be Main Stand and Osmond, subject to the police approving it, because non renewals in the Upper and Lower will get snapped up by those who have bought restricted views and Main and wanting to relocate. Then there will be ST resales - for games likely to be near sell out - so most games. I actually think there will need be a Plan B now after what I was told today. The police could scupper Plan A.

Are you saying the maximum away fans will be 1450 and we would have the rest? If so it should not be a problem for the police should it if that was the case against Stockport? I cannot recall what the segregation was like for the Stockport game though, I cant remember whether we had fans in the Osmond that day.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

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Are you saying the maximum away fans will be 1450 and we would have the rest? If so it should not be a problem for the police should it if that was the case against Stockport? I cannot recall what the segregation was like for the Stockport game though, I cant remember whether we had fans in the Osmond that day.

Stockport had the whole stand but the first 5 or 6 seats rows of seats were out of use covered

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

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Are you saying the maximum away fans will be 1450 and we would have the rest? If so it should not be a problem for the police should it if that was the case against Stockport? I cannot recall what the segregation was like for the Stockport game though, I cant remember whether we had fans in the Osmond that day.

No we didn't - I'm not sure why Stockport were limited to 1,450 instead of circa 1,800 which was the Scunthorpe allocation pre lockdown. It's all a bit of a worrying trend of the police dictating reduction in capacities which seems to have happened post lockdown. I suspect COVID absences and lack of resources was initially behind it, but how the police allocate resource seemed either random or just unfair (eg Boxing Day - GTFC allocation at Halifax 1,200 - Blackpool allocation at Huddersfield 2,600. Let's seen how this pans out. I can't see any reason why the maximum away allocation shouldn't reduced to 1200 - as per Wrexham with circa 400 home fans permitted in the Main corner, with this reversed for smaller away followings.

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

No we didn't - I'm not sure why Stockport were limited to 1,450 instead of circa 1,800 which was the Scunthorpe allocation pre lockdown. It's all a bit of a worrying trend of the police dictating reduction in capacities which seems to have happened post lockdown. I suspect COVID absences and lack of resources was initially behind it, but how the police allocate resource seemed either random or just unfair (eg Boxing Day - GTFC allocation at Halifax 1,200 - Blackpool allocation at Huddersfield 2,600. Let's seen how this pans out. I can't see any reason why the maximum away allocation shouldn't reduced to 1200 - as per Wrexham with circa 400 home fans permitted in the Main corner, with this reversed for smaller away followings.

It is absurd. What on earth difference does it make? The stadium can take x amount of fans, so why is it the police's job to interfere?

As you say, for Northampton, for instance, they could have the main part of the Osmond, and we can use the corner for walk-ups, and for say Salford they can have the corner and we can use the main part for walk-ups. That seems the most sensible short-term solution for increasing home capacity.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

It is absurd. What on earth difference does it make? The stadium can take x amount of fans, so why is it the police's job to interfere?

As you say, for Northampton, for instance, they could have the main part of the Osmond, and we can use the corner for walk-ups, and for say Salford they can have the corner and we can use the main part for walk-ups. That seems the most sensible short-term solution for increasing home capacity.

I totally agree with you but the restrictions on capacities seem to be getting ever more onerous, with the front rows cordoned off etc etc.

Is the home capacity 6700 or is that wrong? So with an actual allowed to be used max away capacity of 1450 that would make the grounds retailable capacity just 8150 ish if the police continued to restrict in that way. Less if there was away and home fans in the osmond meaning segregation.

Quoted from toontown

I totally agree with you but the restrictions on capacities seem to be getting ever more onerous, with the front rows cordoned off etc etc.

Is the home capacity 6700 or is that wrong? So with an actual allowed to be used max away capacity of 1450 that would make the grounds retailable capacity just 8150 ish if the police continued to restrict in that way. Less if there was away and home fans in the osmond meaning segregation.

I am as confused as anybody about the actual usable capacity but what I do know in times of high demand it is absolutely stupid to cordon off front rows. What explanation do the police or club give for that?

At Chesterfield the front rows were cordoned off which was basically a signal for over enthusiastic fans to try to destroy it; just let people sit in seats the stadium was designed to accommodate and dont over complicate it.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I am as confused as anybody about the actual usable capacity but what I do know in times of high demand it is absolutely stupid to cordon off front rows. What explanation do the police or club give for that?

At Chesterfield the front rows were cordoned off which was basically a signal for over enthusiastic fans to try to destroy it; just let people sit in seats the stadium was designed to accommodate and dont over complicate it.

With COVID numbers booming again the police can just hang their hat on staff shortages. I'm not totally unsympathetic to that, but unfairness like the Halifax allocation gets my goat - although it wasn't material in the end because of the postponement. I certainly expect to be quietly in some home ends this season, will try not to get kicked out like at Notts on 96 mins (thankfully we got back in to the away stand for extra time).

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

With COVID numbers booming again the police can just hang their hat on staff shortages. I'm not totally unsympathetic to that, but unfairness like the Halifax allocation gets my goat - although it wasn't material in the end because of the postponement. I certainly expect to be quietly in some home ends this season, will try not to get kicked out like at Notts on 96 mins (thankfully we got back in to the away stand for extra time).

There will be no staff shortages if the police need a presence inside the ground and the club have to pay for it though, I can assure you.

They've been trying to do this for years.

Quoted from pen penfras

There will be no staff shortages if the police need a presence inside the ground and the club have to pay for it though, I can assure you.

They've been trying to do this for years.

Ironically, the game where it was most definitely necessary, the club refused and pretended they could deal with it….they failed…

Quoted from aldi_01

Ironically, the game where it was most definitely necessary, the club refused and pretended they could deal with it….they failed…

To be fair though, their response was swift.

After realising that the Port Vale fans had smashed their way out of the horrendously under stewarded Osmond and attempted to get in the lower Findus to attack our fans. They quickly concluded that the way to prevent any sort of reoccurrence was to close the Lower Findus bar whilst the match was being played.
Another master stoke from Nick Dale and Co !!!!

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1546851839903162368?s=20&t=cq4dr7n08krkVQBuPIZSsA

Given that the 5127 won't include the corporate sth's ,plus the scores of fans who are still to renew, i think it's safe to assume that there are over 2000 new season ticket holders

not a bad effort - i wonder where they all came from; after all we were confidently assured by our majority shareholder that there weren't thousands of GTFC fans who were staying away

Quoted from MarinerDevil

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1546851839903162368?s=20&t=cq4dr7n08krkVQBuPIZSsA

Plus 200 corporates referred to in the JS interview.

About 200 in Block H, about 100 left in block G, back 2 rows of the rest of the main and restricteds, a few single seats dotted about and that shallot.

Plus the 10 season tickets for those in each of the executive boxes

Quoted from GrimPol

Wiki quotes 9,052 as all seater.

Wasn’t that against Sunderland in the league ?

Quoted from grimps

Wasn’t that against Sunderland in the league ?

https://www.besoccer.com/match/grimsby-town/sunderland-afc/199949468

9500 was our all seated league attendance against Sunderland in 1999 , I think we beat this against Chelsea for a cup game

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1547587579360423940?t=ZA4N7VYRrUtavBEzg6l-Yg&s=19

Quoted from forza ivano

Given that the 5127 won't include the corporate sth's ,plus the scores of fans who are still to renew, i think it's safe to assume that there are over 2000 new season ticket holders

not a bad effort - i wonder where they all came from; after all we were confidently assured by our majority shareholder that there weren't thousands of GTFC fans who were staying away

Sorry, but if their were 2000 season ticket holders staying away just because of Fenty they would have bought one last July, not wait for a successful season to pass.

Quoted from Madeleymariner

Sorry, but if their were 2000 season ticket holders staying away just because of Fenty they would have bought one last July, not wait for a successful season to pass.

I would imagine that the success will have been a big part of the increase, but we didn’t see anything like this increase the last time we got promoted and no one knew what the new owners were going to be like really. We hoped but didn’t know. What they have done is promised things, good things, and backed that up with actions, so that will definitely have had an influence with a lot of people.

Quoted from Madeleymariner

Sorry, but if their were 2000 season ticket holders staying away just because of Fenty they would have bought one last July, not wait for a successful season to pass.

They weren't staying away, they came as day tickets which are shown in the increase in our attendances last season.

Mid week games getting 4.5k in the middle of a bad losing run in the NL that’s 2k more than the Fenty years down there for sure..,

Quoted from Posh Harry

I would imagine that the success will have been a big part of the increase, but we didn’t see anything like this increase the last time we got promoted and no one knew what the new owners were going to be like really. We hoped but didn’t know. What they have done is promised things, good things, and backed that up with actions, so that will definitely have had an influence with a lot of people.

Agree generally but would we have continued getting 5k+ home fans game after game if we were struggling in the bottom half after 10 games last season :-/
I am no fan of Fenty but I dont like it when people make statements about these things as if they are fact. Another season challenging and we will be selling out most games and possibly even morte season tickets next year. So glad we have the current owners, but amazingly I am now less likely to attend games due to the lack of seats available in my preferred stand :o If I am going to shell out £60 to attend a game I want to have a decent view.

We were "challenging" in the first season back under Fentys tenure. We didn't get anything like the take up of this season . The Optimisim has returned to the club which is why we have sold more season tickets .

Average 50 a day for the next 5 days we hit the dizzy heights of 5.5k ST holders. wow

This is absolutely amazing, but do we really think the Police will let Town, split the osmond stand in two for home and away fans, unfortunately I doubt that'll happen., we'll see I guess.

Quoted from gytone

This is absolutely amazing, but do we really think the Police will let Town, split the osmond stand in two for home and away fans, unfortunately I doubt that'll happen., we'll see I guess.

Like we did last season, numerous times?

Quoted from Civvy at last

To be fair though, their response was swift.

After realising that the Port Vale fans had smashed their way out of the horrendously under stewarded Osmond and attempted to get in the lower Findus to attack our fans. They quickly concluded that the way to prevent any sort of reoccurrence was to close the Lower Findus bar whilst the match was being played.
Another master stoke from Nick Dale and Co !!!!

My son used to be a Steward actually at the Osmond end a few years ago.
The point is that they were there to point away fans to their seats and not to fight or quell disorder. 1 Because they were not allowed to. 2 They would be sued/arrested if they lay a hand on anyone.
I think people have misconceptions of what Stewards are for and what they are allowed to do. They are not riot police.

Quoted from Civvy at last

To be fair though, their response was swift.

After realising that the Port Vale fans had smashed their way out of the horrendously under stewarded Osmond and attempted to get in the lower Findus to attack our fans. They quickly concluded that the way to prevent any sort of reoccurrence was to close the Lower Findus bar whilst the match was being played.
Another master stoke from Nick Dale and Co !!!!

Quoted from immariner

Like we did last season, numerous times?

To do it more formally, unlike last season when we opened the Osmond and just flogged seats in there because we knew the away following was going to be miniscule, I was expecting some work to be needed. Maybe a barrier going in between a 500 seat area - what was the old Main / Osmond corner terrace, and a 1200 seat area the behind the goal area. I expect we'll know more soon after the 19th - matchday sales will be starting for Northampton and Crewe by about the 23rd.

No reason why we can't do what we did last year at 2-3 games but do it for more.. make it all ticket for away fans then open up the Osmond if they sell less than 500 (for example)

Quoted from lukeo

No reason why we can't do what we did last year at 2-3 games but do it for more.. make it all ticket for away fans then open up the Osmond if they sell less than 500 (for example)

I interpreted what JS said in the interview last weekend that we are going for more than that - he said they are looking at the Osmond and they want BP nearly full of Town fans - so teams like Bradford won't get the whole Osmond. There is a meeting with the police due as well, they wouldn't need that to only open up the Osmond when there are 200 Newport fans coming...

If the Osmond is segregate correctly the Police will be pleased as it means less away fans. It will be easier to steward as well.

If we do segregate it do we still give it all to Doncaster etu or do we limit them to half? I think we should do what Wrexham did last season, segregate 800 seats for away fans and sell the rest to home fans every game, it would be easier than changing it game to game.

Quoted from Grantham_Mariner

If the Osmond is segregate correctly the Police will be pleased as it means less away fans. It will be easier to steward as well.

If we do segregate it do we still give it all to Doncaster etu or do we limit them to half? I think we should do what Wrexham did last season, segregate 800 seats for away fans and sell the rest to home fans every game, it would be easier than changing it game to game.

Has to be the way to do it.

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

To do it more formally, unlike last season when we opened the Osmond and just flogged seats in there because we knew the away following was going to be miniscule, I was expecting some work to be needed. Maybe a barrier going in between a 500 seat area - what was the old Main / Osmond corner terrace, and a 1200 seat area the behind the goal area. I expect we'll know more soon after the 19th - matchday sales will be starting for Northampton and Crewe by about the 23rd.

I don't rhink there's any feasible way to do it other than how it was last season, because of the amenities under the stand and also using the underpass as a logical physical segregation point makes sense. I don't know how recently you've been in there but there is a barrier already separating the corner and main part of the Osmond. If you scroll down to the bottom of this (really good) groundhopper blog you'll see a photo that shows the, admittedly small, barrier running up the stand from the underpass. Would probably need a few stewards lining it

https://footballandmaterialculture.com/2018/04/23/not-fit-for-modern-day-football-or-a-magical-monument-for-119-years-of-footballing-history-blundell-park-grimsby/

Quoted from GrimPol

My son used to be a Steward actually at the Osmond end a few years ago.
The point is that they were there to point away fans to their seats and not to fight or quell disorder. 1 Because they were not allowed to. 2 They would be sued/arrested if they lay a hand on anyone.
I think people have misconceptions of what Stewards are for and what they are allowed to do. They are not riot police.

Trust me. My post was not meant as a dig at the stewards in any way at all. I absolutely agree with you on what their role is and that was my point. The Vale fans were performing in Cleethorpes three hours before the match. The police strongly advised Town to have a police presence in the ground. Nick Dale and co thought they knew better. Then when it all went predictively wrong they punished the Town fans. The stewards should never have been put in the position that they were !!

Quoted from immariner

I don't rhink there's any feasible way to do it other than how it was last season, because of the amenities under the stand and also using the underpass as a logical physical segregation point makes sense. I don't know how recently you've been in there but there is a barrier already separating the corner and main part of the Osmond. If you scroll down to the bottom of this (really good) groundhopper blog you'll see a photo that shows the, admittedly small, barrier running up the stand from the underpass. Would probably need a few stewards lining it

https://footballandmaterialculture.com/2018/04/23/not-fit-for-modern-day-football-or-a-magical-monument-for-119-years-of-footballing-history-blundell-park-grimsby/

Last time I was in there was Town v Exeter 1991...

Quoted from immariner

I don't rhink there's any feasible way to do it other than how it was last season, because of the amenities under the stand and also using the underpass as a logical physical segregation point makes sense. I don't know how recently you've been in there but there is a barrier already separating the corner and main part of the Osmond. If you scroll down to the bottom of this (really good) groundhopper blog you'll see a photo that shows the, admittedly small, barrier running up the stand from the underpass. Would probably need a few stewards lining it

https://footballandmaterialculture.com/2018/04/23/not-fit-for-modern-day-football-or-a-magical-monument-for-119-years-of-footballing-history-blundell-park-grimsby/

Thanks for that, never seen it before. That's a quick simple solution but as someone has stated they're obviously looking at doing even more. Utm

Quoted from Madeleymariner

Agree generally but would we have continued getting 5k+ home fans game after game if we were struggling in the bottom half after 10 games last season :-/
I am no fan of Fenty but I dont like it when people make statements about these things as if they are fact. Another season challenging and we will be selling out most games and possibly even morte season tickets next year. So glad we have the current owners, but amazingly I am now less likely to attend games due to the lack of seats available in my preferred stand :o If I am going to shell out £60 to attend a game I want to have a decent view.

It is a fact we have sold vastly more season tickets than after our last promotion.

Quoted from Civvy at last

To be fair though, their response was swift.

After realising that the Port Vale fans had smashed their way out of the horrendously under stewarded Osmond and attempted to get in the lower Findus to attack our fans. They quickly concluded that the way to prevent any sort of reoccurrence was to close the Lower Findus bar whilst the match was being played.
Another master stoke from Nick Dale and Co !!!!

I LOVE the fact you were talking about Port Vale and inadvertently used the term “master Stoke”!!

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1547891264246362115

another 20+ overnight - slowly but surely getting there....

Quoted from forza ivano

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1547891264246362115

another 20+ overnight - slowly but surely getting there....

And still selling a few to new STHs. I think we'll hit 5.5k and with corporates that will be 5.7k altogether - our average crowd last season, which was already the best since the last championship season (with loads more away fans).

Not sure if anyone on here will know the answer to this - but if we've bought three season tickets on one account, is there any way for those season tickets to be linked to other accounts, or will the account that bought the three season tickets be the only one with priority booking for an away game? Cheers!

Quoted from MaccasBoots

Not sure if anyone on here will know the answer to this - but if we've bought three season tickets on one account, is there any way for those season tickets to be linked to other accounts, or will the account that bought the three season tickets be the only one with priority booking for an away game? Cheers!

Yep. Log into your account, click ‘Edit Details’, and scroll down to ‘Linked Accounts’. Click ‘Request new link’, enter the email of the person(s) you want to link your account with and once they have clicked the confirmation link in the email they receive, your accounts will be linked.

Quoted from Poojah

Yep. Log into your account, click ‘Edit Details’, and scroll down to ‘Linked Accounts’. Click ‘Request new link’, enter the email of the person(s) you want to link your account with and once they have clicked the confirmation link in the email they receive, your accounts will be linked.

Cheers!

I have two season tickets on my account (one mine, one my Dad’s) as we bought them together. Does that mean I can still buy two tickets for Orient (when it’s one per ST holder)?

how do you link season tickets please online?

Quoted from davmariner

I have two season tickets on my account (one mine, one my Dad’s) as we bought them together. Does that mean I can still buy two tickets for Orient (when it’s one per ST holder)?

As long as you have them linked in your account you can buy 2 tickets, one per ticket.

Quoted from davmariner

I have two season tickets on my account (one mine, one my Dad’s) as we bought them together. Does that mean I can still buy two tickets for Orient (when it’s one per ST holder)?

Yeh, last season as it was usually I that was lumbered with getting tickets, I had 6 registered to my account but only ever bought what I needed which usually only 2 or 3.

It’s essentially the online equivalent of giving something your season ticket and getting them to stand in a queue…

Absolutely incredible. Looks nailed on we’ll break 5,500 - not far off our average attendance last season. Mental.

https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1548938678029918210

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Osmond is just under 1900 not 2100. Stockport were given and sold 1,450. Splitting the Osmond is Plan A and is dependent on negotiations with the police. The numbers reported as sold look conservative; I renewed 1878 today and was told availability is only likely to be Main Stand and Osmond, subject to the police approving it, because non renewals in the Upper and Lower will get snapped up by those who have bought restricted views and Main and wanting to relocate. Then there will be ST resales - for games likely to be near sell out - so most games. I actually think there will need be a Plan B now after what I was told today. The police could scupper Plan A.

The Osmond is around 2,200.

Quoted from Poojah

Absolutely incredible. Looks nailed on we’ll break 5,500 - not far off our average attendance last season. Mental.

https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1548938678029918210

What's our normal last day sales from renewals - at least a couple of hundred I would have thought? Add the corporates and we are above last season's average.

Think there are fewer than 100 renewals to go. Be about 5.6k I suspect

22 short of 5,500, so looks like we’ll break through that ceiling just in time for the end of the early bird deadline. It will be interesting to see whether they extend it once a handful of decent non-renewed seats come back on sale. Would probably make sense to do so for another week.

https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1549055097748996100

Quoted from Poojah

22 short of 5,500, so looks like we’ll break through that ceiling just in time for the end of the early bird deadline. It will be interesting to see whether they extend it once a handful of decent non-renewed seats come back on sale. Would probably make sense to do so for another week.

https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1549055097748996100

Fenty said something like there wasn't enough interest in Town to sell 1,000's of season tickets. He has been proved wrong.

Quoted from Poojah

It will be interesting to see whether they extend it once a handful of decent non-renewed seats come back on sale. Would probably make sense to do so for another week.

They said before they would not be extending the early bird and I'm sure the article even said something like "unlike previous years". Would be odd if they went back on that and suddenly extended it.

Quoted from Poojah

22 short of 5,500, so looks like we’ll break through that ceiling just in time for the end of the early bird deadline. It will be interesting to see whether they extend it once a handful of decent non-renewed seats come back on sale. Would probably make sense to do so for another week.

https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1549055097748996100

I think any decent non-renewal seats will be snapped up by those who have bought at the early bird prices requesting to swap seats

Mad to say that we usually sell about 100 on the first day, and we’re still shifting 50 a day now on the last day before the deadline.

Quoted from pizzzza

They said before they would not be extending the early bird and I'm sure the article even said something like "unlike previous years". Would be odd if they went back on that and suddenly extended it.

Fair enough, it would indeed.

https://twitter.com/mark_stilton/status/1549066661717676032

couple of hundred corporates to go on i think, so it's looking like closer to 6000 than 5500

Let us just speculate for a moment in view of these figures.

If we had, say, a new stadium with a capacity of 15k, and we had just got promoted and we were on a roll, how many season tickets (bearing in mind the better facilities for families on offer) could we have shifted? If we were doing well in league 2, and challenging at the top, what would be the number of pay-on-the-day fans could we attract?

I would guess at circa 8k season tickets, with a home attendance of 10k? Taking away fans into account and for really big games it is easy to see a 15k capacity stadium would not be out of the question. This is one of the conundrums the owners will have to grapple with.

I suppose looking at those guesstimates, unless radical changes are made to BP, any ongoing success will have to involve getting a new stadium.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Let us just speculate for a moment in view of these figures.

If we had, say, a new stadium with a capacity of 15k, and we had just got promoted and we were on a roll, how many season tickets (bearing in mind the better facilities for families on offer) could we have shifted? If we were doing well in league 2, and challenging at the top, what would be the number of pay-on-the-day fans could we attract?

I would guess at circa 8k season tickets, with a home attendance of 10k? Taking away fans into account and for really big games it is easy to see a 15k capacity stadium would not be out of the question. This is one of the conundrums the owners will have to grapple with.

I suppose looking at those guesstimates, unless radical changes are made to BP, any ongoing success will have to involve getting a new stadium.

or redevelop BP.

Quoted from DB

or redevelop BP.

The Findus stand needs bull dozing and replacing with something like the coop stand at Lincoln. Obviously the main stand is a more serious issue

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Let us just speculate for a moment in view of these figures.

If we had, say, a new stadium with a capacity of 15k, and we had just got promoted and we were on a roll, how many season tickets (bearing in mind the better facilities for families on offer) could we have shifted? If we were doing well in league 2, and challenging at the top, what would be the number of pay-on-the-day fans could we attract?

I would guess at circa 8k season tickets, with a home attendance of 10k? Taking away fans into account and for really big games it is easy to see a 15k capacity stadium would not be out of the question. This is one of the conundrums the owners will have to grapple with.

I suppose looking at those guesstimates, unless radical changes are made to BP, any ongoing success will have to involve getting a new stadium.

Football is a fickle game, we all know that, but there is a huge opportunity right now to grow the club in the long-term. We’ve just acquired somewhere in the region of 2,500 new season ticket holders, all of whom will have friends and family not yet frequently engaging with the club.

In increasing our footprint of core support by around 70% in one summer (having already grown 15% - 20% the summer before) we also now find ourselves in close, indirect reach to a huge pool of untapped potential fan base, by proxy.

The challenge already in many respects is one of capacity. Were we to start the season well, there is likely to be demand which exceeds our capacity to offer a decent view of the playing field (or in the case of temporary seating, a roof). That’s likely to restrictive.

I’ve always felt we could be much bigger as a club than we have been in my lifetime, all 37 years, but we need the requisite infrastructure in order to realise that potential. It’s a shame that our upturn in fortune comes at a time of such challenging economics, because I think we’re pretty close to proving that it needs a bigger stadium.

Quoted from It Bites

The Findus stand needs bull dozing and replacing with something like the coop stand at Lincoln. Obviously the main stand is a more serious issue

It ALL needs bull dozing! A new ground is absolutely, 100% necessary.

Given it's doubtful we can get 2 tickets together in the Findus for the Northampton game, anyone out there on holiday that day and willing to let myself and Son Of borrow two happy to pay ticket price or donate to a charity. It would really hurt if I missed 1st home game for first time in who knows how many years. (thanks)

Its a kind of tradition, crazy golf, then jumbo at Steels, then icecream walking along the seafront and over the bridge.

Quoted from Poojah

Football is a fickle game, we all know that, but there is a huge opportunity right now to grow the club in the long-term. We’ve just acquired somewhere in the region of 2,500 new season ticket holders, all of whom will have friends and family not yet frequently engaging with the club.

In increasing our footprint of core support by around 70% in one summer (having already grown 15% - 20% the summer before) we also now find ourselves in close, indirect reach to a huge pool of untapped potential fan base, by proxy.

The challenge already in many respects is one of capacity. Were we to start the season well, there is likely to be demand which exceeds our capacity to offer a decent view of the playing field (or in the case of temporary seating, a roof). That’s likely to restrictive.

I’ve always felt we could be much bigger as a club than we have been in my lifetime, all 37 years, but we need the requisite infrastructure in order to realise that potential. It’s a shame that our upturn in fortune comes at a time of such challenging economics, because I think we’re pretty close to proving that it needs a bigger stadium.

I can remember when 15/16,000 were regarded as poor gates. We were a big club and can be same again as the ST sales have shown. Also, trips to the old Wembley, Cardiff and London Stadium have shown that Town has tremendous support if it can be harnessed for each home game.

I think the success has taken JS & AP by surprise and they now have a chicken and egg situation. They can see the need for a new stadium/redevelopment but don't want an Albatros around their necks. A full house for every home game may give them a push.

This means I am going to have to put up with the same people around me every game, oh hang on a minute, they are going to have to put up with me though !!!! ;D ;D ;D

So if they don't do anything with the Osmond we must be circa 80%-85% of home capacity now without any on the day sales. Does that sound right when you take away the Exex seats and covid areas?

Quoted from DB

I can remember when 15/16,000 were regarded as poor gates. We were a big club and can be same again as the ST sales have shown. Also, trips to the old Wembley, Cardiff and London Stadium have shown that Town has tremendous support if it can be harnessed for each home game.

I think the success has taken JS & AP by surprise and they now have a chicken and egg situation. They can see the need for a new stadium/redevelopment but don't want an Albatros around their necks. A full house for every home game may give them a push.

That wasn't poor, it was average in the post-war heyday [url]https://thefishy.co.uk/story.php?id=8382729[/url]. Our best ever average is 18,238 in Div 2 in 49/50. In the 50s the best was 15,914 and the lowest was 8,313 in 54/55 when we finished second bottom of Div 3N. Interesting we haven't had any crowd above 20k on a Saturday since 58/59 v Middlesborough. Our best crowds of the season were often a Good Friday or a Tuesday night in August, and Tuesday crowds were as good as sometimes better than Saturday crowds - reflection of work patterns of our fanbase then perhaps? 3k-4k at sea at any one time, dockers and processing workers having to work Saturdays? Crowds would fluctuate wildly as well, our only 5 figure average in 60s was 62/63 with a best of season of 16.5k on a Tuesday night v Scunny, but only 9.3k v Leeds in November and a season lowest of 7k.

Quoted from immariner

I think any decent non-renewal seats will be snapped up by those who have bought at the early bird prices requesting to swap seats

How would one go about swapping seats?

My ST is a little away from the bulk of the group I go with and I could do with shuffling along my row a few seats.

So what's the plan for the season for walk-ins any news about that or a buy back scheme????

Quoted from ginnywings

How would one go about swapping seats?

My ST is a little away from the bulk of the group I go with and I could do with shuffling along my row a few seats.

Probably a phone call chief. Definitely feel like I recall the club mentioning that they expect some people to request to swap seats

Quoted from immariner

Probably a phone call chief. Definitely feel like I recall the club mentioning that they expect some people to request to swap seats

Cheers. I'll give it a shot tomorrow.

Quoted from ginnywings

How would one go about swapping seats?

My ST is a little away from the bulk of the group I go with and I could do with shuffling along my row a few seats.

Understand your mates have already done that Ginny

Quoted from golfer

Understand your mates have already done that Ginny

Quoted from Poojah

Football is a fickle game, we all know that, but there is a huge opportunity right now to grow the club in the long-term. We’ve just acquired somewhere in the region of 2,500 new season ticket holders, all of whom will have friends and family not yet frequently engaging with the club.

In increasing our footprint of core support by around 70% in one summer (having already grown 15% - 20% the summer before) we also now find ourselves in close, indirect reach to a huge pool of untapped potential fan base, by proxy.

The challenge already in many respects is one of capacity. Were we to start the season well, there is likely to be demand which exceeds our capacity to offer a decent view of the playing field (or in the case of temporary seating, a roof). That’s likely to restrictive.

I’ve always felt we could be much bigger as a club than we have been in my lifetime, all 37 years, but we need the requisite infrastructure in order to realise that potential. It’s a shame that our upturn in fortune comes at a time of such challenging economics, because I think we’re pretty close to proving that it needs a bigger stadium.

This feels like a really crucial period in the modern history of the club.  Definitely at a crux point.  One swallow never made a summer but with the sheer number of ST's we've sold it's looking highly likely that all home games are going to be either sell-outs in home areas or very close to it.

The trick is going to be determining how many more we could have sold after the Sold Out signs go on the door.  If we're left with 200 seats left, all restricted views, would they have sold easily if they were decent views?  Are the poor views putting 200 people, 400, 2,000 people off coming to BP?

My personal view is that there's the potential interest there to exceed five-figures on home attendances and that it's BP itself which is the biggest constraint on growing our fan base beyond any glass ceiling we've almost put up ourselves since the gradual reduction of the ground capacity.  But how do we prove that we could ever get those numbers on a consistent basis, because really that's the justification we would need to either build a new ground or significantly redevelop BP.

A new ground is incredibly expensive in the current climate and I'd imagine probably unfeasible without doing it as a joint venture.  The benefit of a new ground is that you can still continue with your old ground until it's built.  If we redevelop, great we arguably reduce the construction costs but our income is going to be reduced whilst each stand is knocked down and replaced.

Thankfully we've got people on board who know their excrement when it comes to this.  I can't imagine it's going to be straight forward whatever we do.

Done it. Who would have thought this possible just a couple of months ago? Mental. Reckon we might see a few more get theirs before the deadline ends tonight as people head to the Lincoln game.

https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1549332175576875009

Even from the 45-50th day of sales, historically there looks to be a little surge going on - looking at that data on Mark's graph anyway.

I'm not sure when the early bird prices ended in previous years but I don't think it's unreasonable to expect at least another 200 ticket sales after the early bird prices end. There are always a few who will take up tickets right at the last minute, of course that may have been reduced this year with the fear of missing out/losing your seat etc.

I still think we're due one, if not two, really exciting signings. Wouldn't surprise me if they happen just before the transfer window shuts. Combined with a decent start to the season and an increased feel good factor, I wouldn't rule out another little boost on ST sales.

intercourse it, we can do 6,000!

Quoted from diehardmariner

Even from the 45-50th day of sales, historically there looks to be a little surge going on - looking at that data on Mark's graph anyway.

I'm not sure when the early bird prices ended in previous years but I don't think it's unreasonable to expect at least another 200 ticket sales after the early bird prices end. There are always a few who will take up tickets right at the last minute, of course that may have been reduced this year with the fear of missing out/losing your seat etc.

I still think we're due one, if not two, really exciting signings. Wouldn't surprise me if they happen just before the transfer window shuts. Combined with a decent start to the season and an increased feel good factor, I wouldn't rule out another little boost on ST sales.

intercourse it, we can do 6,000!

We sold a good number after the great start to last season. Do well again at the beginning and it’s a stretch, but by no means impossible.

Quoted from diehardmariner

This feels like a really crucial period in the modern history of the club.  Definitely at a crux point.  One swallow never made a summer but with the sheer number of ST's we've sold it's looking highly likely that all home games are going to be either sell-outs in home areas or very close to it.

The trick is going to be determining how many more we could have sold after the Sold Out signs go on the door.  If we're left with 200 seats left, all restricted views, would they have sold easily if they were decent views?  Are the poor views putting 200 people, 400, 2,000 people off coming to BP?

My personal view is that there's the potential interest there to exceed five-figures on home attendances and that it's BP itself which is the biggest constraint on growing our fan base beyond any glass ceiling we've almost put up ourselves since the gradual reduction of the ground capacity.  But how do we prove that we could ever get those numbers on a consistent basis, because really that's the justification we would need to either build a new ground or significantly redevelop BP.

A new ground is incredibly expensive in the current climate and I'd imagine probably unfeasible without doing it as a joint venture.  The benefit of a new ground is that you can still continue with your old ground until it's built.  If we redevelop, great we arguably reduce the construction costs but our income is going to be reduced whilst each stand is knocked down and replaced.

Thankfully we've got people on board who know their excrement when it comes to this.  I can't imagine it's going to be straight forward whatever we do.

Agreed, and I also think BP and its environs have been a constraint for a long while, starting with the Football Factory days. The infamous Leeds fixture weekend probably put many off returning for a long time, and then there was Stoke in the early 90s. It's great to see many families and young kids return now.

Five-figure crowds have been rare since the mid 60s apart from the McMenemy seasons and 79 to 82. If we ignore the McMenemy season as an outlier and the 50s post-war boom, our average crowds from 1960/61 to 65/66 looks to be a reasonable target level; we had a couple of years in Div 2 and then treading water in Div 3. Best average was 11.1k and worst was 7.1k - we may get close to the latter with a good season this time. Best league crowd in that period was 18k v Hull in 64/65 but Hull were top and probably brought loads over. Circa 14k peak looks more typical - same as our best league crowd in the 90s v Exeter. About 14k is what we need now - which we could fill, if doing well in the League, v well-supported Yorkies, for high-profile cup games, and, if it's sunny, no dog excrement on pavements, no tractors blocking the A46, v Lincoln...

Quoted from toontown

Sales now at 5614!

Fúcking hell. To be honest, most of the other milestones have been easy to see coming for a while now, but to have sold another 100 or so in the last few hours, having already achieved 5,500 is something else.

Given where we are right now and the apparent rate of sale, you wouldn’t rule out us getting close to 5,800 by the end of the deadline, would you?

Quoted from Poojah

Fúcking hell. To be honest, most of the other milestones have been easy to see coming for a while now, but to have sold another 100 or so in the last few hours, having already achieved 5,500 is something else.

Given where we are right now and the apparent rate of sale, you wouldn’t rule out us getting close to 5,800 by the end of the deadline, would you?

The final rush of renewals as people in two minds, perhaps on affordability in these times, realise there is feck all chance of getting a decent seat for most home games and have decided to take the plunge.

Sales are accelerating rather than slowing down.  Great credit to all concerned.

Re the historically high attendances.  The Hull home game in 1964/65 (over 18,000) did attract a large number of Hull fans. Co I got over on the ferry.

  They were top of the league, had a long unbeaten record, were very high scorers and playing Chelsea in a high-profile FA Cup quarterfinal.

We beat them 1-0 with a Matt Tees header.  One of my first games.

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

Sales are accelerating rather than slowing down.  Great credit to all concerned.

Re the historically high attendances.  The Hull home game in 1964/65 (over 18,000) did attract a large number of Hull fans. Co I got over on the ferry.

  They were top of the league, had a long unbeaten record, were very high scorers and playing Chelsea in a high-profile FA Cup quarterfinal.

We beat them 1-0 with a Matt Tees header.  One of my first games.

Admission prices in 1964/65 where 2/6d and while I can’t find a figure for GTFC a Man Utd season ticket cost £8 and £10s (25p and £8.50). General inflation from then to now is an increase of 22 times. So if football admission had followed general inflation match day admission would be £5 so at £22 it’s four times plus more expensive in real terms to attend now. That must have some impact on attendances over time particularly in locations where money is tight.

Quoted from Poojah

Fúcking hell. To be honest, most of the other milestones have been easy to see coming for a while now, but to have sold another 100 or so in the last few hours, having already achieved 5,500 is something else.

Given where we are right now and the apparent rate of sale, you wouldn’t rule out us getting close to 5,800 by the end of the deadline, would you?

don't forget those 100-200 corporate tickets still to be inputted, and i think you're looking closer to 6000. I also think there might be a little surge this evening, with people comimg to the game and renewing over the counter whilst they're there

Quoted from HerveJosse

Admission prices in 1964/65 where 2/6d and while I can’t find a figure for GTFC a Man Utd season ticket cost £8 and £10s (25p and £8.50). General inflation from then to now is an increase of 22 times. So if football admission had followed general inflation match day admission would be £5 so at £22 it’s four times plus more expensive in real terms to attend now. That must have some impact on attendances over time particularly in locations where money is tight.

Up to the last few months, the price of food, housing etc has decreased as proportion of overall income which means there is more disposable income to spend on football, beer, holidays etc so the relative increase in the cost of football hasn't been a problem at the aggregate level. Hence the big increase in attendances from the low of the late 80s to now. We are now at the same level as the early 60s again, with an overall average of 16k per game. There is no evidence of an adverse impact from the current cost of living crisis on ST sales, on the contrary, on OFF most clubs are reporting an increase. I doubt that there will be many, if any, at our level of increase though.

What a fantastic achievement, who would have thought nearly 6,000 tickets sold already since they came on sale. With walk-ins and away fans it looks like it will be a full house most games.

I think a full house, or near full house will motivate the team giving them more than 12th man of last season. We could be looking at fortress BP with no defeats, no not predictions but hope.

Again our away support is the envy of most clubs so certainly the 12th man effect for most away games.

UTM

Quoted from Poojah

Fúcking hell. To be honest, most of the other milestones have been easy to see coming for a while now, but to have sold another 100 or so in the last few hours, having already achieved 5,500 is something else.

Given where we are right now and the apparent rate of sale, you wouldn’t rule out us getting close to 5,800 by the end of the deadline, would you?

The question is, where on earth would the extra few hundred sit?! If Debbie is keeping 5% back for on-the-day sales, we must be at the limit now anyway.

Utter f#cking madness, it’s awesome!

Quoted from Heisenberg

The question is, where on earth would the extra few hundred sit?! If Debbie is keeping 5% back for on-the-day sales, we must be at the limit now anyway.

Utter f#cking madness, it’s awesome!

We're at about 82% of the usual home capacity but i suspect for most games we'll have Town fans in the Osmond

Quoted from immariner

We're at about 82% of the usual home capacity but i suspect for most games we'll have Town fans in the Osmond

didn't someone say that one option was to make the corner bit of the Osmond a home section?
don't know how viable that is, but certainly would bring in another couple of hundred seats into play

Obviously the fact it is the final day for early bird tickets has seen a bit of a surge in sales. Some have left it right to the wire.

Still incredible though as I thought 5000 sales was just about an achievable target. We've sailed past that with over a week and a half to kick off still.

Quoted from forza ivano

didn't someone say that one option was to make the corner bit of the Osmond a home section?
don't know how viable that is, but certainly would bring in another couple of hundred seats into play

Yeah i think it will mainly be the corner but for the games where it's one man and his dog in the away end (Crawley, Salford, Gillingham), I think we'll have the main part

I can see the club asking away clubs to purchase tickets in advance so that we know 2 weeks before the match tha anticipated following giving the club chance to arrange the over flow to be made available eg you can buy one of 3 packages a) the whole stand B) the corner c) behind the goal failure up sell all the allocation is at the away clubs expense pretty sure this is a practice used by Chelsea and a few others to free space for walk ins

Years of being told there was no chance of more than 3000 STs…

Quoted from crusty ole pie

I can see the club asking away clubs to purchase tickets in advance so that we know 2 weeks before the match tha anticipated following giving the club chance to arrange the over flow to be made available eg you can buy one of 3 packages a) the whole stand B) the corner c) behind the goal failure up sell all the allocation is at the away clubs expense pretty sure this is a practice used by Chelsea and a few others to free space for walk ins

It all depends on how it goes on the pitch. If we're up in the top 10, we'll always need the corner I think. If we're lower midtable or worse from the off, I don't think we'll see that many walk ups to be honest, certainly compared to last season, as I suspect the regular walk ups, like me, have been convertes into ST holders

Quoted from aldi_01

Years of being told there was no chance of more than 3000 STs…

TBF Aldi, there was NO chance of more than 3,000.......with him at the helm.🙄

There's still bound to be a number of irregular walk ups who will also go nomatter what. They just go to a lot less games overall, can't see those buying a season ticket but their still likely to rock up occasionally however we're doing.

Quoted from immariner

It all depends on how it goes on the pitch. If we're up in the top 10, we'll always need the corner I think. If we're lower midtable or worse from the off, I don't think we'll see that many walk ups to be honest, certainly compared to last season, as I suspect the regular walk ups, like me, have been convertes into ST holders

Plus it'd be a less than ideal view unless it's in the osmond or temp seats, apart from for those few who actually like the view from the back of the main

Am just in awe of what has happened at the club over the past 18 months. From the doldrums of the Holloway/Fenty/May farce, then put through relegation and then into a flying start and being put through the stress of a (very) bad patch. And onwards to the most unbelievable play off campaign.

And then, to top it all we sell over 5000 season tickets.

Wow. Just wow.

Quoted from immariner

It all depends on how it goes on the pitch. If we're up in the top 10, we'll always need the corner I think. If we're lower midtable or worse from the off, I don't think we'll see that many walk ups to be honest, certainly compared to last season, as I suspect the regular walk ups, like me, have been convertes into ST holders

I would imagine there are quite a few exiles like me who can't justify a season ticket because they can only make weekend games. I'm getting more anxious every time I see the number rise :(

Where were all these fornicators when we were playing Rushall Olympic in the FA Trophy eh?

To think our minimum crowd is going to be 6,000 is insane. Utm

Quoted from crusty ole pie

I can see the club asking away clubs to purchase tickets in advance so that we know 2 weeks before the match tha anticipated following giving the club chance to arrange the over flow to be made available eg you can buy one of 3 packages a) the whole stand B) the corner c) behind the goal failure up sell all the allocation is at the away clubs expense pretty sure this is a practice used by Chelsea and a few others to free space for walk ins

Whole stand now not an option 1,200 max - see Debbie Cook interview thread...

So according to that interview our home capacity is 7800

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

So according to that interview our home capacity is 7800

Debbie said it could be more depending on who we are playing. Clubs that come with a small following will allow part of the Osmond to be opened up for home fans.

Quoted from DB

Debbie said it could be more depending on who we are playing. Clubs that come with a small following will allow part of the Osmond to be opened up for home fans.

I didnt read it that way. I'm pretty sure she said that there was a trade off, n quite a bit of working out what option was the most financially efficient. As I heard it the trade off is that we get the 600 corner seats permanently. There is ready made segregation there. The downside is that the rest (1200) is the permanent away end no matter how big or small the following

That's the way I heard it Forza any increase above 600 would be a marginal gain because of the loss of the natural segregation and the requirement to tarpaulin more seats.

Presumably then there are no covid restrictions around areas of the ground this season to enable a full 7800 tickets to be available, which I am surprised about.

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

That's the way I heard it Forza any increase above 600 would be a marginal gain because of the loss of the natural segregation and the requirement to tarpaulin more seats.

Presumably then there are no covid restrictions around areas of the ground this season to enable a full 7800 tickets to be available, which I am surprised about.

The discussion starts about 7 mins in. In 1 way she seems to be hedging her bets, but he seems v keen on the osmond corner option, and I'd be surprised if the decision hasnt been made given how close we are to the start of the season

Just the one available seat, in the Upper Findus, anywhere outside the Main Stand, ahead of tonight’s renewal cut-off.

Final figure after early bird period:

We've definitely made some giant steps forward. ::)

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1549719090897592322?s=20&t=ejYXnuDG7VKkwbAEU9M27Q

Quoted from MarinerDevil

Final figure after early bird period:

We've definitely made some giant steps forward. ::)

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1549719090897592322?s=20&t=ejYXnuDG7VKkwbAEU9M27Q

STEPS towards a massive improvement all round that final figure! :)

As we stand then sales are up more than 70% YoY. I think last year we shifted another 200 or so after the early bird deadline; a similar % rise this season would take us take us over the 6,000 mark which is frankly unfathomable. With another 250 corporates and a possible away crowd average of c. 400 even modest walk-up sales could see us average in excess of 7,000 - something we've only done once in my lifetime, going all the way back to 1991.

I know there's a line of thought that such an increase in ST's will cannibalise walk-up sales, and it will to a degree. But if the number of people prepared to fork out £300+ for a season ticket has increased by more than 70%, you can be certain that there'll be a sizeable increase in historically floating fans now at least prepared to go on a regular basis.

There will be plenty like myself who can only make about 10 home games a season who won't have committed to a season ticket. I would think walk ups in the home end, capacity permitting, would still be anywhere from 500-1000 for each game depending on the opposition and form.

Quoted from Poojah

As we stand then sales are up more than 70% YoY. I think last year we shifted another 200 or so after the early bird deadline; a similar % rise this season would take us take us over the 6,000 mark which is frankly unfathomable. With another 250 corporates and a possible away crowd average of c. 400 even modest walk-up sales could see us average in excess of 7,000 - something we've only done once in my lifetime, going all the way back to 1991.

I know there's a line of thought that such an increase in ST's will cannibalise walk-up sales, and it will to a degree. But if the number of people prepared to fork out £300+ for a season ticket has increased by more than 70%, you can be certain that there'll be a sizeable increase in historically floating fans now at least prepared to go on a regular basis.

If we start averaging 7,000+ gates it will certainly give JS & AP food for thought about a new stadium/redevelopment of BP, given the capacity is 9,0031 including the max 1,200 for away fans.

Quoted from Poojah

As we stand then sales are up more than 70% YoY. I think last year we shifted another 200 or so after the early bird deadline; a similar % rise this season would take us take us over the 6,000 mark which is frankly unfathomable. With another 250 corporates and a possible away crowd average of c. 400 even modest walk-up sales could see us average in excess of 7,000 - something we've only done once in my lifetime, going all the way back to 1991.

I know there's a line of thought that such an increase in ST's will cannibalise walk-up sales, and it will to a degree. But if the number of people prepared to fork out £300+ for a season ticket has increased by more than 70%, you can be certain that there'll be a sizeable increase in historically floating fans now at least prepared to go on a regular basis.

In the last 50 years our average gate, including away fans, has been lower than than these sales 60% of the time. This feels like a paradigm shift for GTFC.

Money clearly counts most but all other things being equal, it must help us with recruitment for a professional sports person you want to perform in front of full houses, not reams of empty seats.