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Posted by: Yoda, February 7, 2021, 4:15pm
If we go down what will the gates be.?
I think a lot of town fans will of had enough, if we are doing well 3500, if we are doing not so well 1800.

I think town fans have had two decades of dross and we have lost a generation of fans.
Posted by: ginnywings, February 7, 2021, 4:19pm; Reply: 1
The league matters not. If we are top end and winning most weeks, the fans will turn up.
Posted by: NorthseaMariner, February 7, 2021, 4:29pm; Reply: 2
Let’s cross that bridge when we come to it. Until then UTM.
Posted by: promotion plaice, February 7, 2021, 4:37pm; Reply: 3

Weren't the parachute payments considerably increased recently?

Would help our cause if the worst was to happen I suppose.
Posted by: HertsGTFC, February 7, 2021, 4:44pm; Reply: 4
Quoted from Yoda
If we go down what will the gates be.?
I think a lot of town fans will of had enough, if we are doing well 3500, if we are doing not so well 1800.

I think town fans have had two decades of dross and we have lost a generation of fans.


Have a day off FFS.
Posted by: DB, February 7, 2021, 4:46pm; Reply: 5
I just got a pasting for my recent thread but what a load of crap this is, it makes me look like saint

We are not going down until it is mathematically impossible to stay up. I also posted on another thread about the insolvency of NL clubs. It is illegal  for a company (Most NL Clubs) to trade if they are insolvent. I'm thinking BHS, Debenhams etc.

Given their lack of income some may already be insolvent! If so the NL has a legal duty to expel these clubs regardless of position in their league. If they don't and clubs are found to have trade whilst being insolvent then any relegated club would have reasonably good case against against the NL.

If we go down, don't be silly we're staying up.
Posted by: ginnywings, February 7, 2021, 4:46pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from promotion plaice

Weren't the parachute payments considerably increased recently?

Would help our cause if the worst was to happen I suppose.


It was increased to 100% of EFL solidarity payment in the first season and 50% in the second season, although I'm not sure if that is still the case without checking.

However, given what has happened this season, I think there will be a clamour to introduce a salary cap, which was talked about as being 900,000 in last years talks.

If that happens, we will no longer be a big player in that league, and would be just our luck if we drop down and it is introduced.
Posted by: Yoda, February 7, 2021, 4:49pm; Reply: 7
i think we would be another Chesterfield
Posted by: DB, February 7, 2021, 4:50pm; Reply: 8
Quoted from ginnywings


It was increased to 100% of EFL solidarity payment in the first season and 50% in the second season, although I'm not sure if that is still the case without checking.

However, given what has happened this season, I think there will be a clamour to introduce a salary cap, which was talked about as being 900,000 in last years talks.

If that happens, we will no longer be a big player in that league, and would be just our luck if we drop down and it is introduced.


We're not dropping, stay positive this thread is meaningless. Pie in the sky!
Posted by: GrimRob, February 7, 2021, 4:51pm; Reply: 9
We've got Tranmere on Saturday. Everything beyond that will look after itself.
Posted by: DB, February 7, 2021, 4:53pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from GrimRob
We've got Tranmere on Saturday. Everything beyond that will look after itself.


Definite win, 3 points and take off up the league.
Posted by: Knut Anders Fosters Voles, February 7, 2021, 4:54pm; Reply: 11
Quoted from DB
I also posted on another thread about the insolvency of NL clubs. It is illegal  for a company (Most NL Clubs) to trade if they are insolvent. I'm thinking BHS, Debenhams etc.


No it’s not

Stop posting the same stuff on different threads.

Particularly when you are wrong.
Posted by: DB, February 7, 2021, 5:13pm; Reply: 12


No it’s not

Stop posting the same stuff on different threads.

Particularly when you are wrong.


Hey, same meaning in these threads. Sorry if I offended you.

No me but somebody say you were wrong on the other thread.

Posted by: Knut Anders Fosters Voles, February 7, 2021, 5:27pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from DB


Hey, same meaning in these threads. Sorry if I offended you.

No me but somebody say you were wrong on the other thread.



You were wrong.

Pen penfras was wrong.

GTFC plc are currently insolvent and are still trading.

Stop trying to cause trouble
Posted by: Northbank Mariner, February 7, 2021, 5:36pm; Reply: 14
KAFV AND DB...definition of being insolvent is based on 2 criteria.

This being
1a : unable to pay debts as they fall due in the usual course of business.
1b : having liabilities in excess of a reasonable market value of assets held.
2 : insufficient to pay all debts therefore it's an insolvent estate.

I'm not getting involved with your mammary for tat, just put this up for you to both stew over
Posted by: DB, February 7, 2021, 5:54pm; Reply: 15
Quoted from Northbank Mariner
KAFV AND DB...definition of being insolvent is based on 2 criteria.

This being
1a : unable to pay debts as they fall due in the usual course of business.
1b : having liabilities in excess of a reasonable market value of assets held.
2 : insufficient to pay all debts therefore it's an insolvent estate.

I'm not getting involved with your mammary for tat, just put this up for you to both stew over


Look I am not an insolvency accountant. All I was thinking following somebody else's post was that if the worst happened could company law save our bacon. This was the sole reason for making my posts. If it won't work, well it was a try.

We're not going down but always handy to have a plan B.
Posted by: pen penfras, February 7, 2021, 6:00pm; Reply: 16
1. GTFC are not insolvent, see link for definition https://smallbusiness.chron.com/difference-between-insolvency-negative-equity-66732.html

2. The illegal part that the Southport manager referred to, which is I assume where DB's confusion comes from, is about a director deliberately taking action that will cause the company to become insolvent. ie, voting to continue playing this season with zero income. That is not in a companies best interest, but it may be in a club's sporting best interest. It's a murky area, but some will surely make that choice.
Posted by: KingstonMariner, February 7, 2021, 7:24pm; Reply: 17
If we go down and the takeover hasn’t happened, crowds will be rock bottom (assuming we’re allowed back in by next season).

If the takeover has happened, I’d expect crowds will be a bit iffy but we could well see a bounce because people will be desperate to go to the football. And there could well be a bit of extra positivity depending on what we hear coming from the new regime.
Posted by: Gaffer58, February 7, 2021, 8:10pm; Reply: 18
No money expert but being at the steelworks for over 40 years, there were more loss making years then profitable ones, in fact in the early 80’s the place was losing £1 million a day, hate to think what that would work out in today’s money.
Posted by: Hurstomariner, February 7, 2021, 8:59pm; Reply: 19
Need to be positive about 19 games left to play ! The side will start blending I’m sure of it and grind out results come on you town !!! Get behind the boys
Posted by: 140381 (Guest), February 8, 2021, 10:33am; Reply: 20
If we go down, you’ll actually have a chance of watching live football in 2021.
Posted by: fishboyUTM, February 8, 2021, 12:02pm; Reply: 21
If JSF was still in charge, I would feel I would be wasting my time, money and emotional investment. I would walk away, but I'm not sure what I'd do on a Saturday (maybe the last 9 months have given an insight).

Under the new board, I would absolutely give them my full backing and support whatever level we play at. None of this disgraceful and pathetic shitshow is their fault and they deserve our unconditional backing.
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