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Posted by: Fillipe Noche, January 4, 2021, 10:55am
Regeneration seems to be the buzz word around Grimsby at the moment. There’s absolutely no doubt that the Town is going to be receiving a lot of investment and improvement over the coming years. The catalyst for much of this is the renewable energy industry that has, and is, making its home along the banks of the Humber. It’s a very positive time for the town, and as always, where there are development opportunities, money making scope exists for those that have money already, those that understand how to tap into development potential, and for those that are well connected.

The football club is also central to the regeneration programme. Community projects, especially sports based ones that tick the health and well being boxes, are superb vehicles for attracting investment and grants. So it’s blatantly obvious that there is profit making opportunity for anyone that can get involved with the football club and it’s activities centred around the regeneration programme.

I think it’s vitally important that we understand that nobody that takes the football club forward as part of the Towns regeneration programme, is doing this solely for the love of the club and/or the community. Some you might say aren’t interested at all in the community or the football club, and are totally fixed with their eyes on the prize of profit.

I’ve been thinking about all of the characters that have been involved over recent weeks, and what their motivation has been:

John Fenty..,
Genuinely has a love and passion for the club, in that there is no doubt. He’s an astute businessman, although he hasn’t really profited from his investment in Grimsby Town to date. In fact, apart from the gift of Mariners Trust shares, which he can only ever profit from once sold, practically everything else he has done has been give not take. And certainly not profit.

In John’s case, his involvement with GTFC has been a drain on his wealth. Certainly not a big drain in comparison to his overall accumulated wealth, but certainly not an exciting profit making venture that his other business investments have provided him with over the years.

But, I have no doubt that his end game has always been to eventually benefit from his involvement with the club through the many efforts he has led on to deliver a new stadium and the allied developments that he has endeavoured to have running alongside this. He’s probably endured years of frustration that the likes of Great Coates and Peaks Parkway have not been deliverable. Frustration both for his love of the club and his desire for it to have the best home and facilities, and also frustration that he’s continually been thwarted in obtaining any real meat on the bone profit from his involvement in the club, the likes as he has in the fish industry.

Ian Holloway:
Definitely came to Grimsby chasing profit. Had absolute no affinity with the Town or club at all. Never ever has he taken up a board appointment at any other football club. Never ever has he committed to investing money into a club. I have no doubt that in attracting Holloway to Grimsby, that the bait on the hook was the regeneration taking place in the Town and the football clubs proposed involvement in that. He saw the pound signs and jumped onboard in order to make money.

Alex May:
Nothing other than an investor, both for himself and others. A person who saw the opportunity to profit from the regeneration taking place in the Town and the football clubs proposed involvement in it. Has zero love  or affinity for the club.

Schutes Consortium:
The three businessmen involved in this consortium have a fondness for GTFC and some fondness for the town. So we won’t be passing over to people who don’t care at all about Grimsby.

I think that care and regard is pretty thin, but enough that they will or should do right by the club. Let’s not pretend though that these guys are Grimsby through and through like John Fenty is. To me they are a bit like the local lads that’s done well, left the town, explored the world, and created their success away from Grimsby. They aren’t deeply rooted in Grimsby with a desire to be living here, homers so to speak. They aren’t people that over the years you’d find sat at Blundell Park year in and year out. They’ve probably spent more time at Premier League grounds enjoying hospitality than they have their hometown ground. But for me, their background of being from Grimsby is enough for them to be safe hands and custodians.

In the case of the consortium though, I do not pretend for a minute that their motivation is the love of the club and the town. I think the regeneration programme, the club’s involvement in it, and the profit they can make, is the key driver in them wanting to invest in the club. In the case of Tom Schutes, this is very definitively already in process, since he’s already involved in development in the town, right at the coal face.

Summary:
Personally I think it’s wrong to cast scorn on anyone that seeks to be involved in the club who has more than one glancing eye on profiting from their investment. Because if that’s the driver, in small part or large part, for success for the football club, then so be it. However, the ones to be weary of are the investors that are looking to profit and then run. For me, Holloway and May fit firmly into that category. John Fenty absolutely doesn’t and I’m confident he was content with a long cycle at the club that see’s him make loss, break even, then profit, but without running away. He’s not running away now really is he, he’s simply bowing out to fan pressure if the sale completes. The consortium I hope will continue John’s work and more, make a success of it and I have no problem with them profiting from this whilst doing so.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Interesting times.
Posted by: BlackandWhiteBarmy2, January 4, 2021, 10:59am; Reply: 1
Pointless
Posted by: friskneymariner, January 4, 2021, 11:03am; Reply: 2
Stop reading when you said astute business man
Posted by: toontown, January 4, 2021, 11:13am; Reply: 3
It was fenty that brought may and Holloway to the club FFS, don't act like they are separate groups!

And as for fenty profiting from the 200k of shares he bullied out of the trust, which you feign as being a deserved profit - he has had 17 years to make money out of relocation/other investment/successful football and done nothing but fail on all counts. He has a reverse Midas touch of failure.

That's WHY he had to end up bringing a con artist like May to the party. Notice you just refer to him as being an invested, when in actual fact he is a serial con artist and scammer, a known lifestyle criminal. And fenty was willing to allow him to become the major shareholder. God knows where we would be in the long term if Lloyd hadn't exposed it but I sttongly suspect we would have become another of Mays victims.
Posted by: Hagrid, January 4, 2021, 11:13am; Reply: 4
Oh do go away
Posted by: Boris Johnson, January 4, 2021, 11:15am; Reply: 5
We dont know as yet what the 3 monkeys plan for the club, but lets not think for one moment that they would have purchased shares if there wasnt a regeneration programme going on.  That is obviously there driver, and as perhaps the deal isnt yet finalised, we need to wait and see what there log term plans are.

Rest assured they will be scrutinsed thoroughly, and questions will be asked.   Too many on here thinking we have won the lottery.
Posted by: lew chaterleys lover, January 4, 2021, 11:17am; Reply: 6
Quoted from Fillipe Noche
Regeneration seems to be the buzz word around Grimsby at the moment. There’s absolutely no doubt that the Town is going to be receiving a lot of investment and improvement over the coming years. The catalyst for much of this is the renewable energy industry that has, and is, making its home along the banks of the Humber. It’s a very positive time for the town, and as always, where there are development opportunities, money making scope exists for those that have money already, those that understand how to tap into development potential, and for those that are well connected.

The football club is also central to the regeneration programme. Community projects, especially sports based ones that tick the health and well being boxes, are superb vehicles for attracting investment and grants. So it’s blatantly obvious that there is profit making opportunity for anyone that can get involved with the football club and it’s activities centred around the regeneration programme.

I think it’s vitally important that we understand that nobody that takes the football club forward as part of the Towns regeneration programme, is doing this solely for the love of the club and/or the community. Some you might say aren’t interested at all in the community or the football club, and are totally fixed with their eyes on the prize of profit.

I’ve been thinking about all of the characters that have been involved over recent weeks, and what their motivation has been:

John Fenty..,
Genuinely has a love and passion for the club, in that there is no doubt. He’s an astute businessman, although he hasn’t really profited from his investment in Grimsby Town to date. In fact, apart from the gift of Mariners Trust shares, which he can only ever profit from once sold, practically everything else he has done has been give not take. And certainly not profit.

In John’s case, his involvement with GTFC has been a drain on his wealth. Certainly not a big drain in comparison to his overall accumulated wealth, but certainly not an exciting profit making venture that his other business investments have provided him with over the years.

But, I have no doubt that his end game has always been to eventually benefit from his involvement with the club through the many efforts he has led on to deliver a new stadium and the allied developments that he has endeavoured to have running alongside this. He’s probably endured years of frustration that the likes of Great Coates and Peaks Parkway have not been deliverable. Frustration both for his love of the club and his desire for it to have the best home and facilities, and also frustration that he’s continually been thwarted in obtaining any real meat on the bone profit from his involvement in the club, the likes as he has in the fish industry.

Ian Holloway:
Definitely came to Grimsby chasing profit. Had absolute no affinity with the Town or club at all. Never ever has he taken up a board appointment at any other football club. Never ever has he committed to investing money into a club. I have no doubt that in attracting Holloway to Grimsby, that the bait on the hook was the regeneration taking place in the Town and the football clubs proposed involvement in that. He saw the pound signs and jumped onboard in order to make money.

Alex May:
Nothing other than an investor, both for himself and others. A person who saw the opportunity to profit from the regeneration taking place in the Town and the football clubs proposed involvement in it. Has zero love  or affinity for the club.

Schutes Consortium:
The three businessmen involved in this consortium have a fondness for GTFC and some fondness for the town. So we won’t be passing over to people who don’t care at all about Grimsby.

I think that care and regard is pretty thin, but enough that they will or should do right by the club. Let’s not pretend though that these guys are Grimsby through and through like John Fenty is. To me they are a bit like the local lads that’s done well, left the town, explored the world, and created their success away from Grimsby. They aren’t deeply rooted in Grimsby with a desire to be living here, homers so to speak. They aren’t people that over the years you’d find sat at Blundell Park year in and year out. They’ve probably spent more time at Premier League grounds enjoying hospitality than they have their hometown ground. But for me, their background of being from Grimsby is enough for them to be safe hands and custodians.

In the case of the consortium though, I do not pretend for a minute that their motivation is the love of the club and the town. I think the regeneration programme, the club’s involvement in it, and the profit they can make, is the key driver in them wanting to invest in the club. In the case of Tom Schutes, this is very definitively already in process, since he’s already involved in development in the town, right at the coal face.

Summary:
Personally I think it’s wrong to cast scorn on anyone that seeks to be involved in the club who has more than one glancing eye on profiting from their investment. Because if that’s the driver, in small part or large part, for success for the football club, then so be it. However, the ones to be weary of are the investors that are looking to profit and then run. For me, Holloway and May fit firmly into that category. John Fenty absolutely doesn’t and I’m confident he was content with a long cycle at the club that see’s him make loss, break even, then profit, but without running away. He’s not running away now really is he, he’s simply bowing out to fan pressure if the sale completes. The consortium I hope will continue John’s work and more, make a success of it and I have no problem with them profiting from this whilst doing so.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Interesting times.


How f*****g thick do you think we are?

Fenty wanted to make money from the regeneration, the consortium wants to make money from the regeneration. Obviously.

The difference is that to access that money Fenty went into a business partnership with a convicted, serial fraudster who the government want to deport, he is that bad.

The consortium, on the other hand, appears to have the greater community good at the forefront of their thinking, besides all of them having successful business ventures and mightily impressive portfolios, something that Fenty could only dream about.
Posted by: marinerjase, January 4, 2021, 11:30am; Reply: 7
Worst wind up merchant.

Ever.
Posted by: KingstonMariner, January 4, 2021, 11:30am; Reply: 8
Typical Fenty. Even his propaganda trolls are bargain basement no-hopers.
Posted by: Honestjhonsbankbalance, January 4, 2021, 11:36am; Reply: 9
Jason stockwood is town as intercourse and is on a different stratosphere to john Shelton fenty. And that pal is what you cannot grasp from your deluded noche ing off of fenty, the three of them will bring more expertise in there little fingers compared to your best mate john and that's what you HATE getting your little digs at them MUPPET!!!!!
Posted by: Boris Johnson, January 4, 2021, 11:41am; Reply: 10
Jason stockwood is town as intercourse and is on a different stratosphere to john Shelton fenty. And that pal is what you cannot grasp from your deluded noche ing off of fenty, the three of them will bring more expertise in there little fingers compared to your best mate john and that's what you HATE getting your little digs at them MUPPET!!!!!


im sure Stockdale is, but I was surprised after 50 years of home and away support I didnt recognise him...Perhaps he isnt a Carlisle away on a Wet Tuesday niught man?
Posted by: davmariner, January 4, 2021, 11:41am; Reply: 11
Fenty’s reputation amongst town fans can never be rehabilitated. So there’s no point in even trying pal.
Posted by: jamesgtfc, January 4, 2021, 11:44am; Reply: 12
Quoted from Boris Johnson


im sure Stockdale is, but I was surprised after 50 years of home and away support I didnt recognise him...Perhaps he isnt a Carlisle away on a Wet Tuesday niught man?


I'm as diehard as they come but I don't go every week because I can't for a variety of reasons.
Posted by: ska face, January 4, 2021, 11:44am; Reply: 13
An awful lot of words to say effectively nothing.

Anyone that knows anything knows that housing is probably the quickest and easiest way to make a decent profit relatively quickly, and with a minimum of fuss. Especially given a chronic shortage of housing nationally and locally - NE Lincs council requires an average of 517 new homes per year from 2023-2032.

The Telegraph revealed that May - brought into the situation by Fenty - had already had proposals drawn up for housing on the site of BP by an firm of architects in Nottingham. The land at Cheapside would also be an extremely attractive proposition for anyone looking to throw up a housing development given the location, recent developments next door and relatively low costs of development. Why was May so keen for new training facilities?

There’s absolutely no doubt in my mind who was involved, how and for what reasons, though given the litigious nature of some individuals I’ll leave that to your imagination.

As for the consortium, it’s been said before but there are much easier ways to make a profit than buying a run down football club with limited income, then relocating them to former industrial area by filling in a dock. They’ve already demonstrated their commitment to developing the town with their work on the OnSide Youth Zone - https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/grimsby-news/stunning-images-grimsbys-new-youth-4158845
Posted by: KingstonMariner, January 4, 2021, 11:45am; Reply: 14
Quoted from Boris Johnson


im sure Stockdale is, but I was surprised after 50 years of home and away support I didnt recognise him...Perhaps he isnt a Carlisle away on a Wet Tuesday niught man?


Maybe getting on with his life and career was more of a priority than trekking hundreds of miles to prove his loyalty.
Posted by: 123614 (Guest), January 4, 2021, 12:08pm; Reply: 15
Quoted from Boris Johnson
We dont know as yet what the 3 monkeys plan for the club, but lets not think for one moment that they would have purchased shares if there wasnt a regeneration programme going on.  That is obviously there driver, and as perhaps the deal isnt yet finalised, we need to wait and see what there log term plans are.

Rest assured they will be scrutinsed thoroughly, and questions will be asked.   Too many on here thinking we have won the lottery.


Get back into your high chair so mammy can feed you.

Posted by: TownSNAFU5, January 4, 2021, 12:20pm; Reply: 16
I could respond to nearly every point.

Will stick to “May had no interest in GTFC”.

“Fenty only gave to the Club, not take”.

Link these 2 statements together.

So why then did John Fenty actively encourage May, a convicted fraudster (you conveniently omitted that small fact) to invest a large capital sum in the Club?
Posted by: ginnywings, January 4, 2021, 12:23pm; Reply: 17
Cool story.

Looking forward to the West End musical.
Posted by: 137 (Guest), January 4, 2021, 12:24pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from Fillipe Noche
Regeneration seems to be the buzz word around Grimsby at the moment. There’s absolutely no doubt that the Town is going to be receiving a lot of investment and improvement over the coming years. The catalyst for much of this is the renewable energy industry that has, and is, making its home along the banks of the Humber. It’s a very positive time for the town, and as always, where there are development opportunities, money making scope exists for those that have money already, those that understand how to tap into development potential, and for those that are well connected.

The football club is also central to the regeneration programme. Community projects, especially sports based ones that tick the health and well being boxes, are superb vehicles for attracting investment and grants. So it’s blatantly obvious that there is profit making opportunity for anyone that can get involved with the football club and it’s activities centred around the regeneration programme.

I think it’s vitally important that we understand that nobody that takes the football club forward as part of the Towns regeneration programme, is doing this solely for the love of the club and/or the community. Some you might say aren’t interested at all in the community or the football club, and are totally fixed with their eyes on the prize of profit.

I’ve been thinking about all of the characters that have been involved over recent weeks, and what their motivation has been:

John Fenty..,
Genuinely has a love and passion for the club, in that there is no doubt. He’s an astute businessman, although he hasn’t really profited from his investment in Grimsby Town to date. In fact, apart from the gift of Mariners Trust shares, which he can only ever profit from once sold, practically everything else he has done has been give not take. And certainly not profit.

In John’s case, his involvement with GTFC has been a drain on his wealth. Certainly not a big drain in comparison to his overall accumulated wealth, but certainly not an exciting profit making venture that his other business investments have provided him with over the years.

Philip Day:
A conceited sycophant who acts as a nodding dog chairman for his master, John Fenty. His disdain for the fans is regularly revealed by statements
which are too crass to be believed. Views the supporters of the club as 'sheep with wallets'. A sad excuse for a human being.

But, I have no doubt that his end game has always been to eventually benefit from his involvement with the club through the many efforts he has led on to deliver a new stadium and the allied developments that he has endeavoured to have running alongside this. He’s probably endured years of frustration that the likes of Great Coates and Peaks Parkway have not been deliverable. Frustration both for his love of the club and his desire for it to have the best home and facilities, and also frustration that he’s continually been thwarted in obtaining any real meat on the bone profit from his involvement in the club, the likes as he has in the fish industry.

Ian Holloway:
Definitely came to Grimsby chasing profit. Had absolute no affinity with the Town or club at all. Never ever has he taken up a board appointment at any other football club. Never ever has he committed to investing money into a club. I have no doubt that in attracting Holloway to Grimsby, that the bait on the hook was the regeneration taking place in the Town and the football clubs proposed involvement in that. He saw the pound signs and jumped onboard in order to make money.

Alex May:
Nothing other than an investor, both for himself and others. A person who saw the opportunity to profit from the regeneration taking place in the Town and the football clubs proposed involvement in it. Has zero love  or affinity for the club.

Schutes Consortium:
The three businessmen involved in this consortium have a fondness for GTFC and some fondness for the town. So we won’t be passing over to people who don’t care at all about Grimsby.

I think that care and regard is pretty thin, but enough that they will or should do right by the club. Let’s not pretend though that these guys are Grimsby through and through like John Fenty is. To me they are a bit like the local lads that’s done well, left the town, explored the world, and created their success away from Grimsby. They aren’t deeply rooted in Grimsby with a desire to be living here, homers so to speak. They aren’t people that over the years you’d find sat at Blundell Park year in and year out. They’ve probably spent more time at Premier League grounds enjoying hospitality than they have their hometown ground. But for me, their background of being from Grimsby is enough for them to be safe hands and custodians.

In the case of the consortium though, I do not pretend for a minute that their motivation is the love of the club and the town. I think the regeneration programme, the club’s involvement in it, and the profit they can make, is the key driver in them wanting to invest in the club. In the case of Tom Schutes, this is very definitively already in process, since he’s already involved in development in the town, right at the coal face.

Summary:
Personally I think it’s wrong to cast scorn on anyone that seeks to be involved in the club who has more than one glancing eye on profiting from their investment. Because if that’s the driver, in small part or large part, for success for the football club, then so be it. However, the ones to be weary of are the investors that are looking to profit and then run. For me, Holloway and May fit firmly into that category. John Fenty absolutely doesn’t and I’m confident he was content with a long cycle at the club that see’s him make loss, break even, then profit, but without running away. He’s not running away now really is he, he’s simply bowing out to fan pressure if the sale completes. The consortium I hope will continue John’s work and more, make a success of it and I have no problem with them profiting from this whilst doing so.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Interesting times.


Edited for you.
Posted by: gytone, January 4, 2021, 12:25pm; Reply: 19
Quoted from Boris Johnson


im sure Stockdale is, but I was surprised after 50 years of home and away support I didnt recognise him...Perhaps he isnt a Carlisle away on a Wet Tuesday niught man?


STOCKWOOD FFS, How many more times can people get his name wrong.
Posted by: Withnail, January 4, 2021, 12:33pm; Reply: 20
Quoted from Fillipe Noche
They aren’t deeply rooted in Grimsby with a desire to be living here, homers so to speak. They aren’t people that over the years you’d find sat at Blundell Park year in and year out. They’ve probably spent more time at Premier League grounds enjoying hospitality than they have their hometown ground. But for me, their background of being from Grimsby is enough for them to be safe hands and custodians.

In the case of the consortium though, I do not pretend for a minute that their motivation is the love of the club and the town. I think the regeneration programme, the club’s involvement in it, and the profit they can make, is the key driver in them wanting to invest in the club. In the case of Tom Schutes, this is very definitively already in process, since he’s already involved in development in the town, right at the coal face.


I haven't the time nor inclination to respond to every point you make in your lengthy post but felt the need to correct your claim above.

While I have no knowledge of Tom Schutes' or Jason Stockwood's affinity for GTFC, you're way off the money with Andrew Pettit. Andrew has been a season ticket holder for many a year and attends most home games. I've also seen him at plenty of away games over the years, including Histon away, so not just the big ones.

He also had an ambition of buying the club way before there was any talk of regeneration.

Please don't let the facts get in the way of your narrative though...

Posted by: Chrisblor, January 4, 2021, 1:12pm; Reply: 21
Quoted from Withnail


I haven't the time nor inclination to respond to every point you make in your lengthy post but felt the need to correct your claim above.

While I have no knowledge of Tom Schutes' or Jason Stockwood's affinity for GTFC, you're way off the money with Andrew Pettit. Andrew has been a season ticket holder for many a year and attends most home games. I've also seen him at plenty of away games over the years, including Histon away, so not just the big ones.

He also had an ambition of buying the club way before there was any talk of regeneration.

Please don't let the facts get in the way of your narrative though...



For Stockwood as well you can just look through his past tweets to see he's a proper town supporter:

Tweet 305328120465063936 will appear here...


Tweet 455001349995134976 will appear here...


Tweet 569185500961116160 will appear here...


So stick it in your pipe Boris & Phil, you sad masturbations.
Posted by: Green27, January 4, 2021, 1:38pm; Reply: 22
What a waste of your life. Someone clearly didn’t have to go back to work today.  ;D
Posted by: Boris Johnson, January 4, 2021, 1:41pm; Reply: 23
Quoted from Chrisblor


For Stockwood as well you can just look through his past tweets to see he's a proper town supporter:

Tweet 305328120465063936 will appear here...


Tweet 455001349995134976 will appear here...


Tweet 569185500961116160 will appear here...


So stick it in your pipe Boris & Phil, you sad masturbations.



I'll take no flipping lectures from you or anyone else on supporting this club.
Posted by: MuddyWaters, January 4, 2021, 1:42pm; Reply: 24
John Fenty invited a convicted fraudster (with multiple identities!) to watch our football club while we, the fans who've loyally stuck with the club, sat at home.

That's all you need to know.
Posted by: Boris Johnson, January 4, 2021, 1:42pm; Reply: 25
Quoted from MuddyWaters
John Fenty invited a convicted fraudster (with multiple identities!) to watch our football club while we, the fans who've loyally stuck with the club, sat at home.

That's all you need to know.


I stand with Ollie ;D ;D ;D ;D
Posted by: paul1717, January 4, 2021, 1:50pm; Reply: 26
Quoted from Fillipe Noche


I’ve been thinking about all of the characters that have been involved over recent weeks, and what their motivation has been:

Me too.
Davec posts about an article in the 'Times' newspaper written by Gregor Robertson amplifying the unsavory goings on at the managerial level of GTFC.

Just 3 hours later  Fillipe Noche pops up with another one of his almost daily litany's, which in essence is just another regurgitation of his, I’ll tell you a story about JackaNory.

If one is above reproach in business dealings I would certainly feel uncomfortable having a JackaNory wordsmith trying to sing my moral excellence.  

Could it be in times of adversity keep your head down and create a distraction using whatever tool is available.  



Posted by: Poojah, January 4, 2021, 2:05pm; Reply: 27
Quoted from gytone


STOCKWOOD FFS, How many more times can people get his name wrong.


Absolutely, the man has risen from a Grimsby council estate to become the CEO of one of the most impressively run businesses in the UK, and people can't be bothered to get his name right.

In Stockford we trust.
Posted by: Boris Johnson, January 4, 2021, 2:23pm; Reply: 28
Quoted from Poojah


Absolutely, the man has risen from a Grimsby council estate to become the CEO of one of the most impressively run businesses in the UK, and people can't be bothered to get his name right.

In Stockford we trust.


Just listening to Rumours by Stockwood Mac
Posted by: lew chaterleys lover, January 4, 2021, 2:35pm; Reply: 29
So many things in this depressing episode are odd, but how odd is this?

The Monday after the story broke I was listening to the David Burns show, who was gunning for Fenty and wanted to know how it would affect his council position, and was more or less urging "ratepayers" as he kept calling them, to demand to know what was going on.

He kept saying he was trying to get various people to come and the show to talk about it, but had no luck with anyone from the club or the council.

He also said they were trying to get Mr May to come on to the show - I said good luck with that - as if he is going to come on!

Lo and behold a few minutes later the mysterious Mr May was indeed on the line, and spilled all the beans nicely into Burns' lap.

Before coming on, May knew the game was up; he knew there would be serious consequences for Fenty, especially in his council role, and he knew that his confirmation of what had been going on would be the final nail in the coffin.

It begs the question - why did he do a radio interview he had no need to?  What was his motive? The only logical conclusion I could draw was that he was happy to put the boot into Fenty, which said to me if your business partner, with his appalling track record of fraud and imprisonment, turns against you, then you really have got problems.

That was the moment I knew for sure Fenty was a busted flush. As someone said earlier, isn't it amazing that we have to thank a career criminal for saving our beloved Mariners? God its a strange old world.

PS I would also like to thank our new resident poster for allowing us to remember just what an appalling and disgusting episode this has been and for making sure we don't forget the chief protagonist in it all.  
Posted by: friskneymariner, January 4, 2021, 2:56pm; Reply: 30
'Lay abed accursed and forever hold his manhood cheap' best quotation I can come up with.
Posted by: BlackandWhiteBarmy2, January 4, 2021, 3:05pm; Reply: 31
Quoted from Poojah


Absolutely, the man has risen from a Grimsby council estate to become the CEO of one of the most impressively run businesses in the UK, and people can't be bothered to get his name right.

In Stockford we trust.


Does anyone know which Grimsby council estate? I mean there's council estates and there's estates that have a few council houses on them. Was Fenty from a council estate?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: forza ivano, January 4, 2021, 3:48pm; Reply: 32
Filipe Noche = discombobulator
Posted by: BeijingMariner, January 4, 2021, 4:14pm; Reply: 33
Quoted from forza ivano
Filipe Noche = discombobulator




for your viewing and listening pleasure

for you reading pleasure

White Girl, market at Van Ness
Heels to drag, discombobulated
Air all soft around, hear the man singing
Inclines and wires, Telegraph Avenue
Look away and she's eastbound, out of sight
Dropped here by the hand of the Astronaut
Builder of the pyramids, the man from outer space
Innocent farmgirl raised by the aliens
Out in Northridge, out in the larger world
Look away and she's eastbound, out of sight
Up out of sight, white girl, white girl
Posted by: KingstonMariner, January 4, 2021, 4:19pm; Reply: 34
Quoted from Boris Johnson



I'll take no flipping lectures from you or anyone else on supporting this club.


Lectures can be a good way of learning things. You ought to try it one day.
Posted by: KingstonMariner, January 4, 2021, 4:20pm; Reply: 35
Quoted from Boris Johnson


I stand with Ollie ;D ;D ;D ;D


Well intercourse off to Bath then
Posted by: Tommy, January 4, 2021, 4:21pm; Reply: 36
I wonder when the Fenty "plants" on the Fishy and Twitter etc will stop posting such inaccurate and at times laughable rubbish whilst trying to stir questions and controversy around the new consortium.

Will they get fed up of it once the deal's gone through and stop posting?
Are they hoping to stir up some opposition to the takeover actually happening so that Honest John can keep control of the club?
Will they continue to post from from their anonymous yet clearly biased and connected accounts once the takeover is complete, just to have digs at the new owners and try and make us all see what a fantastic chairman/owner/dictator JF was?
Posted by: KingstonMariner, January 4, 2021, 4:25pm; Reply: 37
Actually they’re doing a pretty bad job of it Tommy. All the twerps are doing is keeping the issues fresh in everyone’s minds.

Maybe they’re double agents 😆
Posted by: ginnywings, January 4, 2021, 4:38pm; Reply: 38
History is written by the winning side.
Posted by: golfer, January 4, 2021, 4:50pm; Reply: 39
Quoted from Boris Johnson


im sure Stockdale is, but I was surprised after 50 years of home and away support I didnt recognise him...Perhaps he isnt a Carlisle away on a Wet Tuesday niught man?


I saw him sat next to a chap called Lawson.
Posted by: tanga_the_indestructible, January 4, 2021, 4:50pm; Reply: 40


Does anyone know which Grimsby council estate? I mean there's council estates and there's estates that have a few council houses on them. Was Fenty from a council estate?

Asking for a friend.



Nunsthorpe.
Posted by: grimsby pete, January 4, 2021, 4:56pm; Reply: 41
When Jason took that video at the Barnet game he must have been sat near me.I

I wonder if he recognized me ? (coolp)
Posted by: pontoon442, January 4, 2021, 5:04pm; Reply: 42
Fentywash operation in play, its all Holloway's fault, Robertson at the Tory Telegraph fell for it too.
Posted by: Honestjhonsbankbalance, January 4, 2021, 5:36pm; Reply: 43
Lads been on that Twitter and could anyone answer does harry Clifton for our with jason stockwoods daughter or relation ?
Posted by: forza ivano, January 4, 2021, 6:02pm; Reply: 44
Lads been on that Twitter and could anyone answer does harry Clifton for our with jason stockwoods daughter or relation ?


i think       quote bish-bosh goal bojo liar uncle swindle pass business rich pound


well, it makes about as much sense as the post  ;D ;D ;D
Posted by: TAGG, January 4, 2021, 6:05pm; Reply: 45
Quoted from Fillipe Noche


John Fenty..,
Genuinely has a love and passion for the club, John Fenty


Ian Holloway:
Another disastrous appointment by John Fenty

Alex May:
Con man who John Fenty introduced to the Club and N E Lincs Council



I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Interesting times. i want Johns babies



There ye go bloke.
Got rid of most of the balderdash and edited the rest.
Posted by: RonMariner, January 4, 2021, 7:08pm; Reply: 46
Where is FFS when you need him......
Posted by: moosey_club, January 4, 2021, 7:35pm; Reply: 47
hopes the consortium will continue Johns work......i fking dont or this time next year we will be staring at Conference North
Posted by: moosey_club, January 4, 2021, 7:39pm; Reply: 48
Quoted from Fillipe Noche
Regeneration seems to be the buzz word around Grimsby at the moment. There’s absolutely no doubt that the Town is going to be receiving a lot of investment and improvement over the coming years. The catalyst for much of this is the renewable energy industry that has, and is, making its home along the banks of the Humber. It’s a very positive time for the town, and as always, where there are development opportunities, money making scope exists for those that have money already, those that understand how to tap into development potential, and for those that are well connected.

The football club is also central to the regeneration programme. Community projects, especially sports based ones that tick the health and well being boxes, are superb vehicles for attracting investment and grants. So it’s blatantly obvious that there is profit making opportunity for anyone that can get involved with the football club and it’s activities centred around the regeneration programme.

I think it’s vitally important that we understand that nobody that takes the football club forward as part of the Towns regeneration programme, is doing this solely for the love of the club and/or the community. Some you might say aren’t interested at all in the community or the football club, and are totally fixed with their eyes on the prize of profit.

I’ve been thinking about all of the characters that have been involved over recent weeks, and what their motivation has been:

John Fenty..,
Genuinely has a love and passion for the club, in that there is no doubt. He’s an astute businessman, although he hasn’t really profited from his investment in Grimsby Town to date. In fact, apart from the gift of Mariners Trust shares, which he can only ever profit from once sold, practically everything else he has done has been give not take. And certainly not profit.

In John’s case, his involvement with GTFC has been a drain on his wealth. Certainly not a big drain in comparison to his overall accumulated wealth, but certainly not an exciting profit making venture that his other business investments have provided him with over the years.

But, I have no doubt that his end game has always been to eventually benefit from his involvement with the club through the many efforts he has led on to deliver a new stadium and the allied developments that he has endeavoured to have running alongside this. He’s probably endured years of frustration that the likes of Great Coates and Peaks Parkway have not been deliverable. Frustration both for his love of the club and his desire for it to have the best home and facilities, and also frustration that he’s continually been thwarted in obtaining any real meat on the bone profit from his involvement in the club, the likes as he has in the fish industry.

Ian Holloway:
Definitely came to Grimsby chasing profit. Had absolute no affinity with the Town or club at all. Never ever has he taken up a board appointment at any other football club. Never ever has he committed to investing money into a club. I have no doubt that in attracting Holloway to Grimsby, that the bait on the hook was the regeneration taking place in the Town and the football clubs proposed involvement in that. He saw the pound signs and jumped onboard in order to make money.

Alex May:
Nothing other than an investor, both for himself and others. A person who saw the opportunity to profit from the regeneration taking place in the Town and the football clubs proposed involvement in it. Has zero love  or affinity for the club.

Schutes Consortium:
The three businessmen involved in this consortium have a fondness for GTFC and some fondness for the town. So we won’t be passing over to people who don’t care at all about Grimsby.

I think that care and regard is pretty thin, but enough that they will or should do right by the club. Let’s not pretend though that these guys are Grimsby through and through like John Fenty is. To me they are a bit like the local lads that’s done well, left the town, explored the world, and created their success away from Grimsby. They aren’t deeply rooted in Grimsby with a desire to be living here, homers so to speak. They aren’t people that over the years you’d find sat at Blundell Park year in and year out. They’ve probably spent more time at Premier League grounds enjoying hospitality than they have their hometown ground. But for me, their background of being from Grimsby is enough for them to be safe hands and custodians.

In the case of the consortium though, I do not pretend for a minute that their motivation is the love of the club and the town. I think the regeneration programme, the club’s involvement in it, and the profit they can make, is the key driver in them wanting to invest in the club. In the case of Tom Schutes, this is very definitively already in process, since he’s already involved in development in the town, right at the coal face.

Summary:
Personally I think it’s wrong to cast scorn on anyone that seeks to be involved in the club who has more than one glancing eye on profiting from their investment. Because if that’s the driver, in small part or large part, for success for the football club, then so be it. However, the ones to be weary of are the investors that are looking to profit and then run. For me, Holloway and May fit firmly into that category. John Fenty absolutely doesn’t and I’m confident he was content with a long cycle at the club that see’s him make loss, break even, then profit, but without running away. He’s not running away now really is he, he’s simply bowing out to fan pressure if the sale completes. The consortium I hope will continue John’s work and more, make a success of it and I have no problem with them profiting from this whilst doing so.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Interesting times.


If Carlsberg did clowns ... (stupids)





Posted by: KingstonMariner, January 4, 2021, 9:54pm; Reply: 49
Lads been on that Twitter and could anyone answer does harry Clifton for our with jason stockwoods daughter or relation ?


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Posted by: BlackandWhiteBarmy2, January 4, 2021, 10:51pm; Reply: 50


Nunsthorpe.


Cool Ta

Me too, sort of, until I was 10.

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