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Posted by: UTMariners, December 31, 2020, 7:41pm
Over these last couple of days I've had the realisation just how disillusioned and apathetic I had become about town. I started watching town in the late 80s under Buckley and felt town would be an addiction for life, but bit by bit over recent years I think I distanced myself emotionally as I begun to realise that we would would continue to lurch from one disaster to the next under Fenty and we would never have a club I could be truly proud of. The continuous string of defensive/aggressive statements which came out the club, not to mention the Matt Dean stuff just wore me down. When I realised a few days ago it was possible Fenty might be on his way, I felt excited like I hadn't in so long. I need to pinch myself that we are so close to being rid of him now, and am massively excited by the consortium and Hurst's appointment; I know he wouldn't have touched us again under Fenty and wants to be at a club where he feels he can make genuine progress.  I would usually be very cautious about new owners but knowing there are locals involved who know how to run a business makes me massively excited.  After such a excrement year I cant help but feel massive positivity. Sorry if I sound like an overexcited kid at Christmas.
Here's to 2021! UTFM
Posted by: KingstonMariner, December 31, 2020, 7:57pm; Reply: 1
Well said.
Posted by: livvo, December 31, 2020, 8:54pm; Reply: 2
We've been at the beginning of many false dawns in the past, and I will back this new beginning just like I did it's predecessors.  TOWN
Posted by: grimsby pete, December 31, 2020, 9:23pm; Reply: 3
I have always been positive when we get a new manager.

BUT

This time I am more optimistic because we have forward thing owners.

Up the mariners !!!!!
Posted by: hheh2, December 31, 2020, 9:41pm; Reply: 4
Will still take time but at least we are now in safe safe hands with owners with their heads screwed on

+Now we actually have an assistant manager again!

Hopefully the new board realises we need more coaches we should be a professional outfit!
Posted by: 137 (Guest), January 1, 2021, 2:26am; Reply: 5
Quoted from UTMariners
Over these last couple of days I've had the realisation just how disillusioned and apathetic I had become about town. I started watching town in the late 80s under Buckley and felt town would be an addiction for life, but bit by bit over recent years I think I distanced myself emotionally as I begun to realise that we would would continue to lurch from one disaster to the next under Fenty and we would never have a club I could be truly proud of. The continuous string of defensive/aggressive statements which came out the club, not to mention the Matt Dean stuff just wore me down. When I realised a few days ago it was possible Fenty might be on his way, I felt excited like I hadn't in so long. I need to pinch myself that we are so close to being rid of him now, and am massively excited by the consortium and Hurst's appointment; I know he wouldn't have touched us again under Fenty and wants to be at a club where he feels he can make genuine progress.  I would usually be very cautious about new owners but knowing there are locals involved who know how to run a business makes me massively excited.  After such a excrement year I cant help but feel massive positivity. Sorry if I sound like an overexcited kid at Christmas.
Here's to 2021! UTFM


I'm the same tbh. That emotion of "feeling good about Town" has returned. I'd forgotten what it felt like, it's been a stranger for so long...
Posted by: Rick12, January 1, 2021, 10:53am; Reply: 6
Quoted from UTMariners
When I realised a few days ago it was possible Fenty might be on his way, I felt excited like I hadn't in so long. I need to pinch myself that we are so close to being rid of him now, and am massively excited by the consortium and Hurst's appointment; I know he wouldn't have touched us again under Fenty and wants to be at a club where he feels he can make genuine progress.
Nice message but football is ultimately business. Had Paul Hurst done well at Ipswich he would of still been there and not touched us with a barge pole. All market forces at the end of the day. Same with the players as well. If there any good they wouldn't be playing for us but be where the real money is eg championship/premiership.

Management/players come and go but true fans always stay.

Posted by: BlackandWhiteBarmy2, January 1, 2021, 11:14am; Reply: 7
Quoted from Rick12
Nice message but football is ultimately business



No it isn't. It's this mantra that has ruined the game in my opinion. This idea that football is somehow a business like any other and that it should be run like a business, by business people. The game dominated by big money, tv deals, advertising, who owns what etc. It's not football, it's not why we watch and support.

Football is love, it's passion, it's fans and camaraderie, it's floodlit grounds on a freezing Tuesday night, local derbies, terrible defeats, Wembley visits. Football is about leaving a ground on a Saturday afternoon knowing that you enjoyed the game and the atmosphere and that you can't wait to be back again. The sooner we get away from business and back to the game the better it will be.

Posted by: Rick12, January 1, 2021, 11:22am; Reply: 8


No it isn't. It's this mantra that has ruined the game in my opinion. This idea that football is somehow a business like any other and that it should be run like a business, by business people. The game dominated by big money, tv deals, advertising, who owns what etc. It's not football, it's not why we watch and support.

Football is love, it's passion, it's fans and camaraderie, it's floodlit grounds on a freezing Tuesday night, local derbies, terrible defeats, Wembley visits. Football is about leaving a ground on a Saturday afternoon knowing that you enjoyed the game and the atmosphere and that you can't wait to be back again. The sooner we get away from business and back to the game the better it will be.

I agree in part but at professional level money rules. Your family is the one thats going to come first not the club. As noted if your near the top of the hierarchy in terms of ability your going to go where the money is eg Ronaldo at  Real Madrid .
Posted by: ginnywings, January 1, 2021, 11:26am; Reply: 9


No it isn't. It's this mantra that has ruined the game in my opinion. This idea that football is somehow a business like any other and that it should be run like a business, by business people. The game dominated by big money, tv deals, advertising, who owns what etc. It's not football, it's not why we watch and support.

Football is love, it's passion, it's fans and camaraderie, it's floodlit grounds on a freezing Tuesday night, local derbies, terrible defeats, Wembley visits. Football is about leaving a ground on a Saturday afternoon knowing that you enjoyed the game and the atmosphere and that you can't wait to be back again. The sooner we get away from business and back to the game the better it will be.



Well said. I think JF and chums forgot that football is supposed to be entertainment. It's all well and good having balanced books but not to the detriment of all else.

If you get it right on the pitch, the rest takes care of itself, and JF never seemed to grasp that concept. Relying on football fortune isn't the best way to run things.
Posted by: HertsGTFC, January 1, 2021, 11:37am; Reply: 10
I’m not sure the mojo’s back but it certainly feels like it’s being fuelled and made ready.

Get the old Board gone, some fresh ideas moving off the pitch and “keep us shape” on it and that will be a great platform when the supporters return, then who knows?
Posted by: RonMariner, January 1, 2021, 1:50pm; Reply: 11

We are not out of the woods, and face a tough few weeks ahead, but we now have hope.
Posted by: TheRonRaffertyFanClub, January 1, 2021, 1:59pm; Reply: 12
Quoted from RonMariner

We are not out of the woods, and face a tough few weeks ahead, but we now have hope.


I hope not. He will have a key role in the player production line. ;)

Posted by: UTMariners, January 1, 2021, 5:21pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from Rick12
Nice message but football is ultimately business. Had Paul Hurst done well at Ipswich he would of still been there and not touched us with a barge pole. All market forces at the end of the day. Same with the players as well. If there any good they wouldn't be playing for us but be where the real money is eg championship/premiership.

Management/players come and go but true fans always stay.



Not disputing this at all, but I'm not sure it really matters.  I still think he is an ambitious manager who has only agreed to come back as he thinks there is a real possibility of helping us progress this time, unlike last time when he had to work under Fenty's penny pinching.
Posted by: Rick12, January 1, 2021, 6:14pm; Reply: 14
Quoted from UTMariners


Not disputing this at all, but I'm not sure it really matters.  I still think he is an ambitious manager who has only agreed to come back as he thinks there is a real possibility of helping us progress this time, unlike last time when he had to work under Fenty's penny pinching.
Yes conditions are better for him this time around. But I still feel if he does well  and a bigger club comes calling his head maybe turned again and he'll be of again on the merry go round of management .

Little loyalty in this game bar to the monies 💰💰.

Posted by: UTMariners, January 1, 2021, 6:22pm; Reply: 15
Quoted from Rick12
Yes conditions are better for him this time around. But I still feel if he does well  and a bigger club comes calling his head maybe turned again and he'll be of again on the merry go round of management .

Little loyalty in this game bar to the monies 💰💰.



Yeah maybe, but he might have learnt something from leaving Shrewsbury so quickly. It didn't work out so well for him last time..
Posted by: AussieMariner, January 1, 2021, 10:02pm; Reply: 16
Quoted from Rick12
Yes conditions are better for him this time around. But I still feel if he does well  and a bigger club comes calling his head maybe turned again and he'll be of again on the merry go round of management .

Little loyalty in this game bar to the monies 💰💰.



If he does well that means we’ve done well so he’s earned his money and the right to progress
If he does badly I imagine many supporters (present company excepted of course) will be calling for his head and eventually he’ll be sacked
Where’s the loyalty in that?
Posted by: RonMariner, January 1, 2021, 11:42pm; Reply: 17
Loyalty is not something we see much of in football is it?

But it goes both ways. Managers know that a few bad results and they are most likely shown the door regardless of their contract or what they may have previously achieved.

I thunk i am right in saying that Mancini, Mourinho, Ranieri, and Conte were all sacked the season after winning the Premier league!

  
Posted by: grimps, January 2, 2021, 8:44am; Reply: 18
I get excited snd sucked in every time

You have to be a bit of an optimist to follow the Mariners , we’re more than due a good year
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