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Posted by: KingstonMariner, December 6, 2020, 9:35pm
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/showbiz-news/strictly-come-dancing-viewers-complain-19407652.amp

These gammons are always getting offended these days and complaining. So sensitive nowadays. Ready to take offence at anything.

When I was a kid male private Emery, Danny la Rue, the Two Ronnies, Les Dawson and Roy Kinnear, half the cast of It Ain’t Alf Hot Mum, and ditto the cast of Colditz were in drag on prime time TV every week. It’s called entertainment fellas.

What are they worried about? Do they fear that they have latent homosexual desires and the sight of Gauka Marques in tights is going to make them want to go out and have filthy sex with the nearest policeman?
Posted by: Knut Anders Fosters Voles, December 6, 2020, 10:26pm; Reply: 1
De-fun the BBC
Posted by: Knut Anders Fosters Voles, December 6, 2020, 10:57pm; Reply: 2
Quoted from KingstonMariner


When I was a kid male private Emery, Danny la Rue, the Two Ronnies, Les Dawson and Roy Kinnear, half the cast of It Ain’t Alf Hot Mum, and ditto the cast of Colditz were in drag on prime time TV every week. It’s called entertainment fellas.



As an 80s child, Saturday Night TV could only have been camper if Larry Grayson and Iván Campo had erected a tent in the Camp Nou and Campo had whispered, ”Si Señor, I will help peg your guy rope”.

Yet there has still been enough procreation in this country to have increased the UK fertility rate since the 80s, so it can’t have done any harm.

Mind you, the Brexiteers / Millwall fans will attribute the increasing fertility rate to foreign born migrants. To be fair, dear old Larry did warn you to “Shut that door!”.
Posted by: ginnywings, December 7, 2020, 12:35am; Reply: 3
Not forgetting Liberace and John Inman. It was certainly ok to be overtly gay in " the good old days" (Not the show The Good Old Days which was also camp as Christmas), but a man in a dress, that's just wrong. Lily Savage has gone straight and now fiddles with dogs.

Mind you, it was mostly from the era when the Black and White Minstrel Show, Alf Garnett and Love Thy Neighbour ruled the airwaves. All good clean fun, but a man in a dress and dancing is just beyond the pale.


Posted by: GYinScuntland, December 7, 2020, 2:01am; Reply: 4
Larry Grayson and the rest of his generation of entertainers were camp as hell and funny with it without the modern day need to ram it down your throat and say "I'm gay, deal with it" which seems the want these days.
Those entertainers came through shining in an era where there was actually a very hostile atmosphere directed at them and they had to work bloody hard to win over a huge percentage of their audience.
People can bang on that the country hasn't moved on about race and sexuality issuses but anyone around in the the 60's or 70's will tell you it damn well has.
Posted by: LH, December 7, 2020, 10:10pm; Reply: 5
They were all moaning about the Vicar of Dibley coming back at Christmas with a BLM sermon the other day.

“I will never watch it again!” say the people who probably didn’t watch it in the first place.
Posted by: TheRonRaffertyFanClub, December 8, 2020, 11:09am; Reply: 6
De-fun the BBC


That happened years ago. Do keep up. ;)

Posted by: TheRonRaffertyFanClub, December 8, 2020, 11:12am; Reply: 7
Quoted from KingstonMariner
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/showbiz-news/strictly-come-dancing-viewers-complain-19407652.amp

These gammons are always getting offended these days and complaining. So sensitive nowadays. Ready to take offence at anything.

When I was a kid male private Emery, Danny la Rue, the Two Ronnies, Les Dawson and Roy Kinnear, half the cast of It Ain’t Alf Hot Mum, and ditto the cast of Colditz were in drag on prime time TV every week. It’s called entertainment fellas.

What are they worried about? Do they fear that they have latent homosexual desires and the sight of Gauka Marques in tights is going to make them want to go out and have filthy sex with the nearest policeman?


Complaining is the only spectator sport allowed during lockdowns.

I used to think Billy Dainty was a great Panto Dame. Just cannot remember where I put the wig. ;)

Posted by: KingstonMariner, December 8, 2020, 10:07pm; Reply: 8


Complaining is the only spectator sport allowed during lockdowns.

I used to think Billy Dainty was a great Panto Dame. Just cannot remember where I put the wig. ;)



I forgot Panto dames. Another great British tradition.
Posted by: KingstonMariner, December 8, 2020, 10:09pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from GYinScuntland
Larry Grayson and the rest of his generation of entertainers were camp as hell and funny with it without the modern day need to ram it down your throat and say "I'm gay, deal with it" which seems the want these days.
Those entertainers came through shining in an era where there was actually a very hostile atmosphere directed at them and they had to work bloody hard to win over a huge percentage of their audience.
People can bang on that the country hasn't moved on about race and sexuality issuses but anyone around in the the 60's or 70's will tell you it damn well has.


Did you mean to say that?  ;D ;D ;D

I don't mind homosexuals being on the telly but I'm not having it rammed down my throat.
Posted by: KingstonMariner, December 8, 2020, 10:13pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from GYinScuntland
Larry Grayson and the rest of his generation of entertainers were camp as hell and funny with it without the modern day need to ram it down your throat and say "I'm gay, deal with it" which seems the want these days.
Those entertainers came through shining in an era where there was actually a very hostile atmosphere directed at them and they had to work bloody hard to win over a huge percentage of their audience.
People can bang on that the country hasn't moved on about race and sexuality issuses but anyone around in the the 60's or 70's will tell you it damn well has.


It has. Probably more on sexuality than race IMO. Still more to be done though. If you'd asked me in 1970 would there still be racism 50 years in the future, I'd have naively said no. Makes my blood boil and I don't have to face it.
Posted by: Lincoln Mariner 56, December 10, 2020, 10:56pm; Reply: 11
Quoted from ginnywings
Not forgetting Liberace and John Inman. It was certainly ok to be overtly gay in " the good old days" (Not the show The Good Old Days which was also camp as Christmas), but a man in a dress, that's just wrong. Lily Savage has gone straight and now fiddles with dogs.

Mind you, it was mostly from the era when the Black and White Minstrel Show, Alf Garnett and Love Thy Neighbour ruled the airwaves. All good clean fun, but a man in a dress and dancing is just beyond the pale.




You forgot my favourite from that era Ginny, “ Mind your language” priceless stereotyping of different races learning to speak English, I used to think it was hilarious.
Posted by: Lincoln Mariner 56, December 10, 2020, 10:56pm; Reply: 12
Quoted from ginnywings
Not forgetting Liberace and John Inman. It was certainly ok to be overtly gay in " the good old days" (Not the show The Good Old Days which was also camp as Christmas), but a man in a dress, that's just wrong. Lily Savage has gone straight and now fiddles with dogs.

Mind you, it was mostly from the era when the Black and White Minstrel Show, Alf Garnett and Love Thy Neighbour ruled the airwaves. All good clean fun, but a man in a dress and dancing is just beyond the pale.




You forgot my favourite from that era Ginny, “ Mind your language” priceless stereotyping of different races learning to speak English, I used to think it was hilarious.
Posted by: TheRonRaffertyFanClub, December 11, 2020, 12:26pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from ginnywings
Not forgetting Liberace and John Inman. It was certainly ok to be overtly gay in " the good old days" (Not the show The Good Old Days which was also camp as Christmas), but a man in a dress, that's just wrong. Lily Savage has gone straight and now fiddles with dogs.

Mind you, it was mostly from the era when the Black and White Minstrel Show, Alf Garnett and Love Thy Neighbour ruled the airwaves. All good clean fun, but a man in a dress and dancing is just beyond the pale.




Being gay and being on the stage were thought synonymous at one time. Watching last night how people like Kenneth Williams were able to be relatively open about it in the Army by joining the ENSA and the like. Hence It Ain’t Half Hot Mum.

Alf Garnett was of course a satire by Johnny Speight who was partly amused and partly upset when it was taken seriously. He even introduced a gay black carer for Alf in the later series.
Posted by: FishOutOfWater, December 29, 2020, 3:05pm; Reply: 14
Quoted from KingstonMariner


It has. Probably more on sexuality than race IMO. Still more to be done though. If you'd asked me in 1970 would there still be racism 50 years in the future, I'd have naively said no. Makes my blood boil and I don't have to face it.


If only Blue Mink's "Melting Pot" had influenced folk a bit more eh?

Or Hot Chocolate's "Brother Louie" as well
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