Official.

Sorry Aaron.

This is the Official Alternative Thread to the one entitled 'Martyn Woolford'

Still don't understand this another winger why? When we clearly need strength in other positions.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

This is the Official Alternative Thread to the one entitled 'Martyn Woolford'

Is it ?

Thanks dad.

Is that 30 players now? should I read into the fact we can't even get rid of certain players?

Can we still loan players out to the Conference??

Don't see the point of this.  

Cloudy never said

Quoted from Fat Cobra

Cloudy never said

On the subject of Cloudy, I'm still waiting for Remie Streete!

We haven't got a very good or balanced squad have we?

If Slade and JF think that this is a squad ready for a promotion push then they're in the wrong jobs..

I'm a bit shell shocked at the business we've done (in and out) this summer to be honest..

Quoted from Bigdog

We haven't got a very good or balanced squad have we?

If Slade and JF think that this is a squad ready for a promotion push then they're in the wrong jobs..

I'm a bit shell shocked to be honest..

Underwhelmed.

Strange. Where is the cover for LB?

Quoted from oldun

Strange. Where is the cover for LB?

Davies played well the other night at left back.

We must have as many players on the books now as we had under Bignot. And he was sacked and ridiculed on here for the size of the squad he built.

Quoted from oldun

Strange. Where is the cover for LB?

Think Woolford can cover lb

Quoted from oldun

Strange. Where is the cover for LB?

Woolford can play as a wing back, which seems to fit with what slade wants.

This Woolford isn't he the one someone on here mentioned that the club should look into signing him whilst he was at York, only for the scunts to sign him a couple of months later?

Pretty disgraceful not one comment to welcome him to the club. He'll wonder what sort of fans this club has got contrary to reports.

Quoted from Tommy

We must have as many players on the books now as we had under Bignot. And he was sacked and ridiculed on here for the size of the squad he built.

He was totally ridiculed for it and now the squad is even bigger

Quoted from barrattstandman

Pretty disgraceful not one comment to welcome him to the club. He'll wonder what sort of fans this club has got contrary to reports.

Welcome to GTFC Martyn.

Quoted from barrattstandman

Pretty disgraceful not one comment to welcome him to the club. He'll wonder what sort of fans this club has got contrary to reports.

. If we rotate the squad he will get a game early November and then again in March-but to get game time we could loan him out to Barrow for a year

I'm glad he's signed, welcome Martyn, but understand and agree with the comments regarding squad size. I don't agree with the stuff about fenty trying to budget on the cheap, the size of the squad would suggest the budget is at least reasonable.

Can't blame Fenty for crap signings-that's down to the 2 managers, but the 2 managers are down to him whatever happens.

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

He was totally ridiculed for it and now the squad is even bigger

That is obviously because no clubs have come in for the players we want rid of!  Slade is stuck with them unless someone else wants them on loan isn't he?

Quoted from toontown

I'm glad he's signed, welcome Martyn, but understand and agree with the comments regarding squad size. I don't agree with the stuff about fenty trying to budget on the cheap, the size of the squad would suggest the budget is at least reasonable.

No, it just means that we have got 2 players for the price of one which will thrill fenty, but now means the club is overloaded with players that nobody else wants.

Even after all this time the non chairman still doesn't appear to see the obvious truth - the better players demand more money but are worth it because then success is easier to come by.  

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

That is obviously because no clubs have come in for the players we want rid of!  Slade is stuck with them unless someone else wants them on loan isn't he?

Hang on a second. The players I'd want rid of are mainly Slade's signings. Hooper, Kelly and possibly Cardwell and definitely one more winger depending on how Woolford does, I will decide who needs to go because we are overloaded in that area. I'm sure 3 + Wright would have been sufficient

Well his goals 2013 - 2015 on you tube were pretty impressive and some fans who know him talk highly of him so he must be better than what we've got. Thats the most important thing to me.I don't want us relegated. if we have more too many wingers then its down to the club to get some who arent up to scratch out on loan. Getting the best players we can is whats important to me.

I think getting players in that you want is a lot more difficult a job than a lot of fans think especially when in competition with other clubs locations and higher salaries etc.

Sure has a lot of games under his belt.

Another 6ft player who is good in the air for set pieces which will help.

Welcome from me Martyn :)

McKeown
Killip
Mills
Davies
Osborne
Dixon
Clarke
Collins
Dembele
DJ
Bolarinwa
Woolford
Kelly
Rose
McAllister
Clements
Berrett
Summerfield
Jones
Osborne
Vernon
Matt
Asante
Hooper
Cardwell

Youth Players
Keeble
Sawyer
Rose
Clifton

What's all the fuss about regarding squad size? Core group of players (excluding youth players) is 25, 3 of those are long term absentees. Guarantee that the same people moaning that the squad is too big will be saying we look thin on the ground if we pick up some more injuries.

Quoted from gtfc98

McKeown
Killip
Mills
Davies
Osborne
Dixon
Clarke
Collins
Dembele
DJ
Bolarinwa
Woolford
Kelly
Rose
McAllister
Clements
Berrett
Summerfield
Jones
Osborne
Vernon
Matt
Asante
Hooper
Cardwell

Youth Players
Keeble
Sawyer
Rose
Clifton

What's all the fuss about regarding squad size? Core group of players (excluding youth players) is 25, 3 of those are long term absentees. Guarantee that the same people moaning that the squad is too big will be saying we look thin on the ground if we pick up some more injuries.

Thank god for a little sanity

Quoted from gtfc98

McKeown
Killip
Mills
Davies
Osborne
Dixon
Clarke
Collins
Dembele
DJ
Bolarinwa
Woolford
Kelly
Rose
McAllister
Clements
Berrett
Summerfield
Jones
Osborne
Vernon
Matt
Asante
Hooper
Cardwell

Youth Players
Keeble
Sawyer
Rose
Clifton

What's all the fuss about regarding squad size? Core group of players (excluding youth players) is 25, 3 of those are long term absentees. Guarantee that the same people moaning that the squad is too big will be saying we look thin on the ground if we pick up some more injuries.

You're not wrong.

So.. leaving 22 fit senior players, you would think that there would be two players for every position if it was a balanced squad.

Defensively we've only got six players for four positions and three of them are older than or around thirty five. Even the three out injured aren't defenders, so there's no excuse there either and when fit leaves us more unbalanced than ever.

Just don't know what RS is thinking when it comes to the balance of squad never mind the profile or quality of some of the signings.

And all this come for a trial business seems desperate. You'd have thought RS would have had clearly defined targets in mind rather than not knowing and seeing how good they are on the training ground, especially as he can only test them against the players we have already got and in the countless soft friendlies we had, rather than in match situations against better calibre opponents.

I'm even more disillusioned than ever with things at the club but still hope this nasty gut feeling I've got is completely wrong..

My gut feeling is anywhere between 18th and 24th, quite a few home gates of less than 4k during the season and a drop off of around 20-25% in away support

This was supposed to be a progressive season and I just can't see it happening. Time can only tell if I'm right or not..

Quoted from Mariner_09

Hang on a second. The players I'd want rid of are mainly Slade's signings. Hooper, Kelly and possibly Cardwell and definitely one more winger depending on how Woolford does, I will decide who needs to go because we are overloaded in that area. I'm sure 3 + Wright would have been sufficient

It is Slade's opinion that counts though isn't it? He is stuck with players he doesn't fancy (and nobody else does by the look of it).

Quoted from Bigdog

You're not wrong.

So.. leaving 22 fit senior players, you would think that there would be two players for every position if it was a balanced squad.

Defensively we've only got six players for four positions and three of them are older than or around thirty five. Even the three out injured aren't defenders, so there's no excuse there either and when fit leaves us more unbalanced than ever.

Just don't know what RS is thinking when it comes to the balance of squad never mind the profile or quality of some of the signings.

And all this come for a trial business seems desperate. You'd have thought RS would have had clearly defined targets in mind rather than not knowing and seeing how good they are on the training ground, especially as he can only test them against the players we have already got and in countless soft friendlies we had, rather than in match situations against better calibre opponents.

I'm even more disillusioned than ever with things at the club but still hope this nasty gut feeling I've got is completely wrong..

He would have had his number one targets for sure, but we are not willing to pay enough to get them here.

If you look at some of RS targets, the young left-back from Liverpool (Sam somebody) has gone on a 2 year deal to Blackburn. Young striker from Notts Forest (Tyler Walker) gets to score the winner at Newcastle.

RS may have set his sights high, but we can see that he has had to take lower options. Its not always about price, but geography and other career factors come in to play.

Lots of people bitching about budgets and spending more but then advocating this boycott that not only exposes the club to a loss on gate receipts v stadium costs but also in prize money. But obviously that's with the clubs "long term future" in mind hey ... ;)

Don't forget Wright is also on the books - out on loan but can be recalled if necessary. I know he played some pre-season games at full-back, but he's another winger.

So, we've got three full-backs to cover 2 positions. Apparently Woolford can also play at left-back if required and, I suppose, Keeble or one of the other defenders might be able to cover as well.

Three centre-backs plus Keeble to cover 2 positions. A little bit thin on the ground there, perhaps? Depends on whether Keeble can step up to the task.

The biggest overload is still in central midfield where we have 9 players including Clifton and Sawyer who nominally play in the middle (10 if you include Jones), albeit that Osbourne is out for a while and McAllister might never be fit. That's a lot of players to fill 2 or 3 positions!

With Woolford we have 5 wingers (6 including Wright) which is perhaps one too many but it is always useful to have a choice on the bench as wingers at this level invariably have games where they don't get anywhere or simply lose form.

Up front we've got 5 strikers to choose from (7 including young Rose and Jones) though, of course, it's a question whether Asante will get fit enough to play a big role. Maybe a little top-heavy if you're playing two up front but seriously overloaded if you're playing with a lone striker!

All in all, just a few too many players. I'd be happier if we had another specialist full-back at the club and one or two of the central midfielders weren't around, but not too disastrous as far as the balance goes. Only issue now is whether or not enough of them are up to the job.

Quoted from 935

Lots of people bitching about budgets and spending more but then advocating this boycott that not only exposes the club to a loss on gate receipts v stadium costs but also in prize money. But obviously that's with the clubs "long term future" in mind hey ... ;)

Havent read too many people advocating we spend more? Some think the budget should have been spent differently (quality over quantity) but if it suits your agenda to have a go at those who chose to Boycott the Trophy on moral grounds so be it

You probably want to take a look on twitter and Facebook cloudy you'll see plenty of people complaining about exactly that son

Quoted from 935

You probably want to take a look on twitter and Facebook cloudy you'll see plenty of people complaining about exactly that son

He probably doesn't want to take a look on twitter and Facebook, if he has any sense.

Quoted from 935

You probably want to take a look on twitter and Facebook cloudy you'll see plenty of people complaining about exactly that son

I am not your son!
If what you say is correct then why are you not responding to those who have expressed those views on Facebook and Twitter as opposed to those on here who havent mentioned such things?

If you try reading just above my original post you d see a chap saying we re not prepared to pay to get people here. I was responding to that

Quoted from 935

If you try reading just above my original post you d see a chap saying we re not prepared to pay to get people here. I was responding to that

So not 'lots of people bitching' as you claimed

Are you for real??

You need to LISTEN Cloudy!!!

;D

Quoted from 935

Are you for real??

You can't deny it, you were claiming I were your son a few posts ago!!

CSA will be chasing you

Were are all my missing birthday presents for the last 61 years???

Childish !

Quoted from Cloudy

You can't deny it, you were claiming I were your son a few posts ago!!

CSA will be chasing you

Were are all my missing birthday presents for the last 61 years???

To be fair ....i can see why he abandoned you  ;)

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

That is obviously because no clubs have come in for the players we want rid of!  Slade is stuck with them unless someone else wants them on loan isn't he?

So how come that logic didn't apply to Bignot when a significant number on here were calling him a buffon for signing  players in January?

Quoted from 935

Lots of people bitching about budgets and spending more but then advocating this boycott that not only exposes the club to a loss on gate receipts v stadium costs but also in prize money. But obviously that's with the clubs "long term future" in mind hey ... ;)

Could you explain to me how boycotting the competition costs the club prize money.  I was unaware that there were  prizes for attendances as well !!!!

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

So how come that logic didn't apply to Bignot when a significant number on here were calling him a buffon for signing  players in January?

I don't recall anyone comparing him to a legendary Italian goalkeeper.

Quoted from mariner91

I don't recall anyone comparing him to a legendary Italian goalkeeper.

Legendary? No, I'm pretty sure Buffon definitely exists.  :P

Quoted from Maringer

Legendary? No, I'm pretty sure Buffon definitely exists.  :P

Legendary in the football sense #Bantz

Another ex-York signing.  He could join Summerfield and Berrett in midfield.  

Not funny , played for York 9 years ago ! They were a decent league club then . Negativity is beyond me

Another player in his thirties! I think RS is trying to create a professional Tartan Forties. ;)

Ah Paddys back been keeping your head down lately ? Paddyboy.