With it seeming likely that it was the players that inspired the sacking, it occurs to me that they better put in one hell of a performance on Friday. I'd specifically play those that revolted, just so they can do their talking on the pitch, and if they're shite, I'd be telling them were to go.

we dont know who it was, and we never will, we can point fingers accuse wtc, but for me im proud of them - as i said on another thread- Bignot did not have a clue, the team spirit was non existant and they did not want to play for the man.

Quoted from Hagrid

we dont know who it was, and we never will, we can point fingers accuse wtc, but for me im proud of them - as i said on another thread- Bignot did not have a clue, the team spirit was non existant and they did not want to play for the man.

I've had a text saying who it was and it doesn't surprise me. I think we all know which players are the most likely candidates. I also don't agree with the general consensus that MB didn't have a clue.

Any idea on the number of players?

Quoted from ginnywings

I've had a text saying who it was and it doesn't surprise me. I think we all know which players are the most likely candidates. I also don't agree with the general consensus that MB didn't have a clue.

What had you seen to suggest otherwise? Anyone can say we're planning for the future, but you can't be shite for too long in the now. He could have easily pursued changes to the setup of the club, but focussed on some stability on the pitch.

Quoted from Mariner93er

Any idea on the number of players?

Quite a few apparently and those that did were also representing others i have been told, so it looks like quite a rebellion.

Quoted from ginnywings

I've had a text saying who it was and it doesn't surprise me. I think we all know which players are the most likely candidates. I also don't agree with the general consensus that MB didn't have a clue.

ginny genuine questions
Ref Donny at home

what would you have done in relation to sending a team out at home to play the runaway league leaders in front of a near full house?
Did the team MB selected have the best possible chance of taking points from them in your opinion?

Quoted from Mariner93er

With it seeming likely that it was the players that inspired the sacking, it occurs to me that they better put in one hell of a performance on Friday. I'd specifically play those that revolted, just so they can do their talking on the pitch, and if they're shite, I'd be telling them were to go.

Can't be done I'm afraid.

You're only allowed 11 on the pitch !!!!!!!!!

Quoted from Hagrid

we dont know who it was, and we never will, we can point fingers accuse wtc, but for me im proud of them - as i said on another thread- Bignot did not have a clue, the team spirit was non existant and they did not want to play for the man.

That final game, a 3-1 away win was particularly clueless and lacking in team spirit. You could see the Town scorers gritting their teeth and visibly sighing as they smacked the ball home.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

What had you seen to suggest otherwise? Anyone can say we're planning for the future, but you can't be shite for too long in the now. He could have easily pursued changes to the setup of the club, but focussed on some stability on the pitch.

I had seen enough wins and enough promise to suggest he wasn't clueless as some keep trotting out. You don't get as far as he has in management if you are clueless and it's a lazy throwaway comment by fans to keep saying it. You can focus on the bad losses but nobody seems to making much mention of the good wins at some of the top end clubs. He had a fragmented squad with clear divisions and lost our top scorer. We can argue all day about formations and whether he should have been experimenting as much as he did, but to suggest he was clueless when we were in no danger at any point in his tenure is just disrespecting his efforts. I liked him and his ideas and i make no secret of it. Others have a different view and that's fine but no-one will convince me that he was clueless. Naive and impatient maybe.

Quoted from Civvy at last

Can't be done I'm afraid.

You're only allowed 11 on the pitch !!!!!!!!!

Ditto. Methods were disliked by existing players from day one, and new signings were becoming increasingly dismayed.

Quoted from 1mickylyons

ginny genuine questions
Ref Donny at home

what would you have done in relation to sending a team out at home to play the runaway league leaders in front of a near full house?
Did the team MB selected have the best possible chance of taking points from them in your opinion?

No, but i don't think we currently have 11 players capable of beating Donny in 9 out of 10 games. We could have made a better fist of it i agree and it's not nice to watch your side get slaughtered by the upstart Yorkies from up the road.

It's all pointless now isn't it? We move on and we'll never know what he could have done. He may have failed spectacularly, but to my mind, he wasn't failing when he was sacked, so why sack him? We are just going round in circles. Those that didn't like him are happy and those of us who were ok with him are bemused. History shows that changing managers hasn't really worked for us in the recent past, so i'm just a little apprehensive about where we are heading and with whom. Will the new man get as much leeway as Hurst, or as little as Bignot?

Quoted from ginnywings

No, but i don't think we currently have 11 players capable of beating Donny in 9 out of 10 games. We could have made a better fist of it i agree and it's not nice to watch your side get slaughtered by the upstart Yorkies from up the road.

It's all pointless now isn't it? We move on and we'll never know what he could have done. He may have failed spectacularly, but to my mind, he wasn't failing when he was sacked, so why sack him? We are just going round in circles. Those that didn't like him are happy and those of us who were ok with him are bemused. History shows that changing managers hasn't really worked for us in the recent past, so i'm just a little apprehensive about where we are heading and with whom. Will the new man get as much leeway as Hurst, or as little as Bignot?

Good post. My point about the Donny game was I as a fan never expected Town to win because evidently they had a better side but I did expect us to field our strongest possible line up and give them a game and that never happened.I accept GTFC will lose games and I accept from time to time they will lose in a shocking manner but that was the first time in a long time I have seen us roll over and die and I am glad JF wasn`t prepared to put up with it.Anyway mate looks like Slade next :'( . I will have to suck it and see I aint happy but I am genuinely interested to see and hear what he plans to do to take the Club forward? League 2 is not great and RS should be striving to hit the play offs next season and who knows maybe he can put right in the next 6 games what he got wrong at Cardiff ;)

Quoted from 1mickylyons

Good post. My point about the Donny game was I as a fan never expected Town to win because evidently they had a better side but I did expect us to field our strongest possible line up and give them a game and that never happened.I accept GTFC will lose games and I accept from time to time they will lose in a shocking manner but that was the first time in a long time I have seen us roll over and die and I am glad JF wasn`t prepared to put up with it.Anyway mate looks like Slade next :'( . I will have to suck it and see I aint happy but I am genuinely interested to see and hear what he plans to do to take the Club forward? League 2 is not great and RS should be striving to hit the play offs next season and who knows maybe he can put right in the next 6 games what he got wrong at Cardiff ;)

Yeah, i get that the Donny game was a straw that broke the camels back type result for a lot of folk and it was the beginning of the end for MB. I just hope Slade isn't being discussed ad infinitum and dividing the fans again this time next season. We could do with a season where just the football is the hot topic.

Quoted from ginnywings

Yeah, i get that the Donny game was a straw that broke the camels back type result for a lot of folk and it was the beginning of the end for MB. I just hope Slade isn't being discussed ad infinitum and dividing the fans again this time next season. We could do with a season where just the football is the hot topic.

we are grimsby town Ginny, that'll never happen!

Here's a good revolt squad. Maceown, Davis, Vernon, Disley, Berrett, McAllister, Gowling. Also representing, Boyce, Andrews and Collins

Quoted from oldun

Here's a good revolt squad. Maceown, Davis, Vernon, Disley, Berrett, McAllister, Gowling. Also representing, Boyce, Andrews and Collins

I wouldn't be at all unhappy to see the majority of those go though

Quoted from RoboCod

I wouldn't be at all unhappy to see the majority of those go though

Agree, Most of them not in MB's plans is my guess and who would argue?

The Daily Mail says:

"Bignot was told of the board’s decision before last weekend’s win at Blackpool"

So presumably the players also knew and that they were doing it their way and may even have been told to show what they were capable of doing. So the win at Blackpool is what we might reasonably expect to see more of?

FFS it's the Daily Mail.....

Quoted from RoboCod

That final game, a 3-1 away win was particularly clueless and lacking in team spirit. You could see the Town scorers gritting their teeth and visibly sighing as they smacked the ball home.

But perhaps they already knew he was on his way? He (Bignot) did look a pretty lost bloke sat on the pitchside railings pre-match.

Quoted from Welwynmariner

The Daily Mail says:

"Bignot was told of the board’s decision before last weekend’s win at Blackpool"

So presumably the players also knew and that they were doing it their way and may even have been told to show what they were capable of doing. So the win at Blackpool is what we might reasonably expect to see more of?

That would explain the post of a Lincoln fan, who actually works at the Grimsby telegraph and was at Blackpool, on another forum BEFORE the game.

He posted that he was hearing rumours about Bignot without actually saying what he meant.

Quoted from Les Brechin

That would explain the post of a Lincoln fan, who actually works at the Grimsby telegraph and was at Blackpool, on another forum BEFORE the game.

He posted that he was hearing rumours about Bignot without actually saying what he meant.

The Slade rumours were doing the rounds on Friday. That's when i first heard them.

Quoted from jock dock tower

FFS it's the Daily Mail.....

It's by-lined to Tom Farmery so it's not some cub reporter

Quoted from itsnotcoditshaddock

But perhaps they already knew he was on his way? He (Bignot) did look a pretty lost bloke sat on the pitchside railings pre-match.

The whole thing becomes more distasteful as it unfolds in more detail. Good on Bignot for actually going and keeping up the whole charade for the sake of our esteemed non-Chairman.

Quoted from RoboCod

The whole thing becomes more distasteful as it unfolds in more detail. Good on Bignot for actually going and keeping up the whole charade for the sake of our esteemed non-Chairman.

I still dont really see what detail this is unfolding with?? distateful or otherwise.... We seem to be basing this newest argument on a photo taken of him sat on a railing, from which we can infer absoloutley jack excrement...

Other "Facts" circulating are that James Mckeown got him sacked cos he s a bad goalie and wanted a contract next year...Ditto Disley and Pearson...

It seems any excuse to have a go...

Correct me if i m wrong, but no one knows why bignot has been sacked?

Quoted from Mariner93er

With it seeming likely that it was the players that inspired the sacking, it occurs to me that they better put in one hell of a performance on Friday. I'd specifically play those that revolted, just so they can do their talking on the pitch, and if they're shite, I'd be telling them were to go.

Indeed this whole thread is predicated on the players having to perform on friday because of something they may or may not have done, otherwise they can intercourse off.... thats odd right?

Quoted from Welwynmariner

The Daily Mail says:

"Bignot was told of the board’s decision before last weekend’s win at Blackpool"

So presumably the players also knew and that they were doing it their way and may even have been told to show what they were capable of doing. So the win at Blackpool is what we might reasonably expect to see more of?

Really, so who was that bald guy waving his arms about encouraging us forward, if he knew he was for the chop, a quiet seat in the stand would have been his choice.

Quoted from Garth

Really, so who was that bald guy waving his arms about encouraging us forward, if he knew he was for the chop, a quiet seat in the stand would have been his choice.

If he knew, he could have borrowed Doig to do the post match interview.

Quoted from 935

I still dont really see what detail this is unfolding with?? distateful or otherwise.... We seem to be basing this newest argument on a photo taken of him sat on a railing, from which we can infer absoloutley jack excrement...

Other "Facts" circulating are that James Mckeown got him sacked cos he s a bad goalie and wanted a contract next year...Ditto Disley and Pearson...

It seems any excuse to have a go...

Correct me if i m wrong, but no one knows why bignot has been sacked?

I've no reason to disbelieve Bignot when he says he assumed he had time on his side in regards to building his team, as reported in the GET. He was either sacked before the game, which would be horribly unfair, or after a 3-1 victory against a side above us, which appears rather odd.

The truth is somewhere in the middle, I suspect, and Slade was already lined up regardless of the result, hence the quick announcement tomorrow and my distaste at dragging things out when Bignot could clearly have been relieved of his duties last week and not strung along over Saturdays preparation and final game. A decent win in what becomes your last ever game must have an extra sting.

Not having a go, not conspiracy theorising, just pointing out the list of possible/probable chain of events.

Quoted from RoboCod

I've no reason to disbelieve Bignot when he says he assumed he had time on his side in regards to building his team, as reported in the GET. He was either sacked before the game, which would be horribly unfair, or after a 3-1 victory against a side above us, which appears rather odd.

The truth is somewhere in the middle, I suspect, and Slade was already lined up regardless of the result, hence the quick announcement tomorrow and my distaste at dragging things out when Bignot could clearly have been relieved of his duties last week and not strung along over Saturdays preparation and final game. A decent win in what becomes your last ever game must have an extra sting.

Not having a go, not conspiracy theorising, just pointing out the list of possible/probable chain of events.

...based on nothing but supposition.

I dont want to have a go, but you should really add the above line.

Quoted from RoboCod

I've no reason to disbelieve Bignot when he says he assumed he had time on his side in regards to building his team, as reported in the GET. He was either sacked before the game, which would be horribly unfair, or after a 3-1 victory against a side above us, which appears rather odd.

The truth is somewhere in the middle, I suspect, and Slade was already lined up regardless of the result, hence the quick announcement tomorrow and my distaste at dragging things out when Bignot could clearly have been relieved of his duties last week and not strung along over Saturdays preparation and final game. A decent win in what becomes your last ever game must have an extra sting.

Not having a go, not conspiracy theorising, just pointing out the list of possible/probable chain of events.

It could have been worse. Like that betting ad on the telly were the manager is changed at half time, or when they concede a goal! Its a tough old game but however the sacking  has come about it is the culmination of many things over many weeks. We could all see it wasn't going according to plan but credit to the board for acting quickly before it got out of hand.  

Quoted from 935

...based on nothing but supposition.

I dont want to have a go, but you should really add the above line.

And "I really am excited about Slade returning" is something you pretty much have added to every post you've made on this topic.

A chance that could not be missed IMO,  Slade available, Bignot running riot with our club, players in tumult, Lincoln doing OK with their risk managers.

First thing Slade will do is put back the moral that has been jettisoned by Mad Marcus and play players in their rightful positions where their strengths lie.

Feeling more secure and interested now----new horizons here we come.

I feel Bignot was told before Blackpool you only had to see him sitting on the barriers on his own in the East Stand to know he had something on his mind,there was no interaction with the players.

Quoted from Garth

A chance that could not be missed IMO,  Slade available, Bignot running riot with our club, players in tumult, Lincoln doing OK with their risk managers.

First thing Slade will do is put back the moral that has been jettisoned by Mad Marcus and play players in their rightful positions where their strengths lie.

Feeling more secure and interested now----new horizons here we come.

Yeah, lets hope he puts Jones back in midfield, not like Mad Marcus. He's been running bloody riot up front. Must put a stop to that.

Quoted from Welwynmariner

The Daily Mail says:

"Bignot was told of the board’s decision before last weekend’s win at Blackpool"

So presumably the players also knew and that they were doing it their way and may even have been told to show what they were capable of doing. So the win at Blackpool is what we might reasonably expect to see more of?

Not according to one poster who thought the players scored through gritted teeth. To coin Disraeli, 'lies, damned lies and pure speculation'.

Quoted from Garth

Really, so who was that bald guy waving his arms about encouraging us forward, if he knew he was for the chop, a quiet seat in the stand would have been his choice.

Slade  ;D