Mariners,

Commiserations on the result today. Written up some thoughts on the game - http://www.TheFootbalLab.co.uk/2017/crewe-5-0-grimsby-eight-things-we-learnt/ - if you can bare to go over it again!

What did you think about Bignot talking directly to the remaining fans after the game? Personally, I have some respect for him for doing that, though I think it was a mistake not to change things at 2 or 3-0 while you still had a chance. Needed to stem the tide in midfield.

All the best for the rest of the season.

Thanks Gabriel.

Not too painful a read but then I wasn't there.

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Thanks Gabriel.

Not too painful a read but then I wasn't there.

Cheers KM. What do you think about Bolarinwa? Thought he did ok off the bench.

Apologies for butting in K.M.

Bolarina is used as a impact player wish he could play for 90 minutes like that but he has not been given many full games his fitness as been questioned??

I don't get that he give us both blistering pace and strength.

Quoted from Gabriel

Mariners,

Commiserations on the result today. Written up some thoughts on the game - http://www.TheFootbalLab.co.uk/2017/crewe-5-0-grimsby-eight-things-we-learnt/ - if you can bare to go over it again!

What did you think about Bignot talking directly to the remaining fans after the game? Personally, I have some respect for him for doing that, though I think it was a mistake not to change things at 2 or 3-0 while you still had a chance. Needed to stem the tide in midfield.

All the best for the rest of the season.

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The clever movement of forwards Chris Dagnall and Jordan Bowery forced Grimsby’s midfielders to congest the left side. Crewe then switched play incisively and this saw George Cooper gain acres of space on the other flank, in behind Grimsby’s advanced right-wing back, Ben Davies. The visiting three-man defence of Gavin Gunning, Danny Collins and Shaun Pearson was often too slow to close down. Cooper took advantage, slotting past James McKeown from a tight angle after some good work from Cooke."

Nice write up I am afraid any team with pace on the flanks will always expose us your young kids ran riot with us like you say your manager quickly picked up on this.

Ben Davis is too slow the centre backs being forced wide to assist meant our shape was simply non existent.

That is what you get with confusion as to who is playing where and what there role is, all very amateurish SORT IT BIGNOT.  

Buy I don't get why, for their first goal, Davies was basically I'm a right wing position while they had the ball. Surely he hasn't been told to do that and just lost the plot.

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The clever movement of forwards Chris Dagnall and Jordan Bowery forced Grimsby’s midfielders to congest the left side. Crewe then switched play incisively and this saw George Cooper gain acres of space on the other flank, in behind Grimsby’s advanced right-wing back, Ben Davies. The visiting three-man defence of Gavin Gunning, Danny Collins and Shaun Pearson was often too slow to close down. Cooper took advantage, slotting past James McKeown from a tight angle after some good work from Cooke."

Nice write up I am afraid any team with pace on the flanks will always expose us your young kids ran riot with us like you say your manager quickly picked up on this.

Ben Davis is too slow the centre backs being forced wide to assist meant our shape was simply non existent.

That is what you get with confusion as to who is playing where and what there role is, all very amateurish SORT IT BIGNOT.  

Not a Crewe fan, grew up supporting Birmingham. What do you think of the wing-back system - would you rather wingers were used?

Would rather see an out and out winger but wing backs work well if you understand some body as to cover the space behind him. In a good side players do this automatically. Trouble with us is ours don't really know each other or the system the gaffer wants to use.

Quoted from Mrs Doyle

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The clever movement of forwards Chris Dagnall and Jordan Bowery forced Grimsby’s midfielders to congest the left side. Crewe then switched play incisively and this saw George Cooper gain acres of space on the other flank, in behind Grimsby’s advanced right-wing back, Ben Davies. The visiting three-man defence of Gavin Gunning, Danny Collins and Shaun Pearson was often too slow to close down. Cooper took advantage, slotting past James McKeown from a tight angle after some good work from Cooke."

Nice write up I am afraid any team with pace on the flanks will always expose us your young kids ran riot with us like you say your manager quickly picked up on this.

Ben Davis is too slow the centre backs being forced wide to assist meant our shape was simply non existent.

That is what you get with confusion as to who is playing where and what there role is, all very amateurish SORT IT BIGNOT.  

This is a problem that needs sorting in the summer. Pointed out by a neutral. Lack of pace in the back three has never been addressed this season. We do get done by nippy forwards.

Can't get to as many games as I'd like, so after hearing great things about Collins and the much improved Pearson, I was looking forward to seeing this for myself at Stevenage. Well Shaun had a really poor game and was off the pace of their nippy forwards and not as commanding in the air as usual. I expected more from Collins who also was quite slow and at times looked a bit frail like some of the older players can do in the odd game. I know fans will say that so and so is alright if he has someone quick alongside him, or so and so is alright with a younger player next to him. Well the players playing regularly in the team need to cope on their own and do their own job and not need others to make up for their weaknesses. They've obviously had a decent run of games around Xmas because we didn't concede many but Carlisle's goal gave me cause for concern, the needless free kick at Doncaster, the defending at Stevenage and now the Crewe horror show after seeing the highlights. Don't think Boyce is good enough and it's far too early for anyone to say about Gunning yet.

I think recruitment in this area will be key in the summer as Collins isn't going to get better at his age and Shaun isn't going to get quicker. The other priority is obviously a couple of wide men and maybe another forward.

I was interested to read a neutral's point of view because it confirmed a little fear I had in my head. I get the love in people have for SP because he's a model pro for GTFC but I think he has flaws in his game that physically he'll never be able to improve upon. We got drubbed 5-0 yesterday and by the looks of the Crewe goals the back three were all over the place and not tight enough to any of their strikers and yet one or two said SP had a good game. SP has done wonders at the club but I'm a bit more cold blooded than most in wanting three points every week..

Having seen the goals again, I think for the first goal Davies was still in the dressing room.

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Having seen the goals again, I think for the first goal Davies was still in the dressing room.

His reactions very slow as he was for the winning goal at Wycombe,do not rate him at Mills much better.