Anyone heard that Vegetarians and Vegans are losing their minds after learning the new £5 note contains an animal product? They're even going as far to promise to boycott it.

What a bunch of Jessie's!

I'll buy them off them for a good discount.

Actually theres shades of the Indian Mutiny. Like the rifle cartridges in the 1850s, there are claims that the new fivers contain beef and pork by-products, thus offending both Hindus and Muslims. Unlike the rifle cartridges, you don't have to bite the end off a fiver in order to use it*.






* yeah I know the Hindo thing isn't necessarily about beef as food

Of course money contains animal products, it was put in there by capitalist pigs  ;D

Stupid decision given that we live in a multi-cultural society and some faiths  have a tradition of not consuming certain animals.

Quoted from GrimRob

Stupid decision given that we live in a multi-cultural society and some faiths  have a tradition of not consuming certain animals.

But where do we draw the line Rob?  I understand what you are saying, but what happens when the tree huggers say no paper must ever be made from trees? The five pound notes are not for consumption or clothing.  Do dedicated Greens only walk everywhere ? No, they adjust to the necessary evil and just try and reduce it where possible. All the religious folk etc are entitled to their own beliefs and actions, but when it starts to impact on others then I'm sorry but there has to be a bit of give and take.

Quoted from Marinerz93

Of course money contains animal products, it was put in there by capitalist pigs  ;D

To be pedantic, it's the government that creates money. It's just the capitalist pigs with their noses in the trough who hoard it.  ;)

These Vegan fascists must think we are slaughtering animals to make the notes!! Absolute cranks. You watch though this petition they have going will be actually taken seriously and once again the minority will get what they demand.

To be fair, it is a bit bloody stupid to include an organic ingredient in plastic banknotes which could potentially offend about 3 million people - I think it was reported that the tallow could be coming from either beef or pork.

Sounds as though they've just used the same formulation as the Aussies/Canadians/Anyone else with plastic notes so it's probably just a case that it hasn't been a consideration in the past as most of these countries probably have sodomist all in the way of an ethnic population in comparison to us.

Not keen on the new notes myself in any case. A bit too 'Toytown' for me.

Quoted from Civvy at last

But where do we draw the line Rob?  I understand what you are saying, but what happens when the tree huggers say no paper must ever be made from trees? The five pound notes are not for consumption or clothing.  Do dedicated Greens only walk everywhere ? No, they adjust to the necessary evil and just try and reduce it where possible. All the religious folk etc are entitled to their own beliefs and actions, but when it starts to impact on others then I'm sorry but there has to be a bit of give and take.

I don't think many people object to paper being made from trees, as long as it is from managed forests. If this is the only way to make the notes then so be it. But if they can be made just as easily from non-animal ingredients then they should be replaced as new notes are printed and old ones go out of circulation. I'm sure there would be an outcry if the notes were made from dog, horse or cat, animals most British people find repulsive to contemplate eating. It's the same thing for other cultures.

Quoted from GrimRob

I don't think many people object to paper being made from trees, as long as it is from managed forests. If this is the only way to make the notes then so be it. But if they can be made just as easily from non-animal ingredients then they should be replaced as new notes are printed and old ones go out of circulation. I'm sure there would be an outcry if the notes were made from dog, horse or cat, animals most British people find repulsive to contemplate eating. It's the same thing for other cultures.

The ingredient is a byproduct from cows, cows that we are not going to stop killing because people want to eat meat and rightly so.

There is a reason why animals are so delicious and a reason why we can use their skin and stuff.

Quoted from Maringer

To be fair, it is a bit bloody stupid to include an organic ingredient in plastic banknotes which could potentially offend about 3 million people - I think it was reported that the tallow could be coming from either beef or pork.

Sounds as though they've just used the same formulation as the Aussies/Canadians/Anyone else with plastic notes so it's probably just a case that it hasn't been a consideration in the past as most of these countries probably have sodomist all in the way of an ethnic population in comparison to us.

Not keen on the new notes myself in any case. A bit too 'Toytown' for me.

I wouldn't bet on it.

Well, specifically, I was thinking about those who would have problems with pork/beef products for religious reasons.

Looks as though the Aussies have a much smaller percentage of the population who are of these religions than us but Canada seems to be about the same.

Ah well, regardless, you wouldn't think you would get meat byproducts in a plastic banknote!

You wouldn't think you would.

I must confess I am a veggie, I feel somewhat ashamed saying that as a Town fan, must confess to having a piece of haddock most times I get to Cleethorpes though (and want to add I detest village green rovers) so I am a veggie who does sin.  I think the whole putting animal products in the new fiver is plain daft.  I mean if it is such a small percentage why is it necessary when it will offend a large section of society, if it is made from either Cow or Pigs you are going to offend a religion and we do have a not inconsiderable population of veggies.  I do think this is a daft issue that could and should of been avoided.  And Grim74 the entire point of liberal democracy is that while the majority may decide most things, a minority never have their viewpoint ignored by the majority, an important principle to stand behind.  

While I think this is daft to have done in the first place and I hope they will be more conscious of avoiding using animal products in the future, it is not that big of an issue.  Most car tires use animal products for example and I am not going to avoid cars or buses because of it.  I choose to avoid products of animal deaths where possible but am not going to get into a hissy fit about it and avoid the new fivers, just hope we make new ones without animal products in the future.