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What's really sad is that the thumbs down from the FA was based on the financials from a TV deal, not the actual abomination of a proposal itself.

Seems to me Harvey is far too occupied with trying to win favours with the FA by trying (trying, but failing badly) to do their job for them in providing something for the national side, at the expense of his paymasters in the Football League.

With his solution or whatever it's called in the pan and having completely killed off the Football League Trophy, isn't it about time that either Harvey fell on his sword or a mass vote of no confidence is tabled?

Harvey is still trying to blag his way out of it.  Wish I could do those linky thingys.
He is totally blaming the FA for not listening.  He still thinks it's a good idea, he isn't concerned that we would have less league matches (thus less income).  He is actually trying to say he is looking after us by trying to cut down those long journeys to away matches.  He is still bleating on about it being for the good of the National team.

Don't know if you are reading this Messr's Fenty, Flemming and Mullen.  But please please please do not give this man any more chances to f@@k us about even more.

Quoted from devon mariner

About time Harvey and his cronies started listening to the fans.

According to that article, it's nothing to do with fans why they have dropped the proposal, it's to do with the TV slots not being available. It would be nice to think fan power tipped the balance, but I think it's largely wishful thinking.

Quoted from Civvy at last

Wish I could do those linky thingys.

Just copy and paste the web address into your post (thumbup)

Just breaking news headline when I posted the OP.

Good news anyway..

Quoted from mariner83

Just copy and paste the web address into your post (thumbup)

Will any paste do or do you have to get a special kind. I have got some wallpaper paste , I will try this but when I tried it before on my other laptop all the keys got stuck down. Well here goes , wish me luck.

Quoted from golfer

Will any paste do or do you have to get a special kind. I have got some wallpaper paste , I will try this but when I tried it before on my other laptop all the keys got stuck down. Well here goes , wish me luck.

I doubt that was wallpaper paste ??)

This is excellent news, but Harvey has been boxed off by the FA, not because of clubs and fans giving it the thumbs down.

He should resign and take his henchmen with him, or a resolution be put to the next Management Meeting to dismiss the culprits.

Cricket is governed, largely, by the people who played the game (Andrew Strauss as Director of Cricket, for example).

It makes me wonder what future football would have if it was governed by ex-players from all levels - those who understand what the sport truly means to the people (and not just how much money is transferred into their bank account).

24 years after they invented the Premier League to strengthen the national side, we lost to Iceland.

What does this tell us about the decision makers of our sport?

They have ambitious plans and they've thrown literally billions of pounds at it to make it work, and it hasn't worked. And it still won't work unless something changes.

Anyway, I'm not even sure this country demands England to win a major tournament any more. Don't get me wrong, I'd love it to happen, but attitudes have changed.

Quoted from RichMariner

Cricket is governed, largely, by the people who played the game (Andrew Strauss as Director of Cricket, for example).

It makes me wonder what future football would have if it was governed by ex-players from all levels - those who understand what the sport truly means to the people (and not just how much money is transferred into their bank account).

24 years after they invented the Premier League to strengthen the national side, we lost to Iceland.

What does this tell us about the decision makers of our sport?

They have ambitious plans and they've thrown literally billions of pounds at it to make it work, and it hasn't worked. And it still won't work unless something changes.

Anyway, I'm not even sure this country demands England to win a major tournament any more. Don't get me wrong, I'd love it to happen, but attitudes have changed.

If the nonsense spouted by the majority of the so called 'expert pundits' is anything to go then we would probably be in a far worse state.

I am increasingly of the view that the Premiership should totally break away from the rest of English football, they are as it is a million miles away from the reality of League 2. I dont think it will happen for one minute but it wouldnt be the worse solution for all concerned

Quoted from Civvy at last

I doubt that was wallpaper paste ??)

Danny Mills, someone who played over 300 games in his career (mostly at the highest level of the English game) and played at the World Cup for England, was a key voice behind the League 3 debacle.

I'm all for 'expert' input into how the game is run but I would have major concerns of the involvement of anyone who spent the majority of their career at the top level over the last 10-15 years.

For me it's important to remember what football ultimately is, an entertainment sport. The driving force behind the shape of the English game should be the fans.

Surely its got to be a blend of interests, not just fans. Those who play the game (at all levels) must have a voice.

Quoted from diehardmariner

Danny Mills, someone who played over 300 games in his career (mostly at the highest level of the English game) and played at the World Cup for England, was a key voice behind the League 3 debacle.

I'm all for 'expert' input into how the game is run but I would have major concerns of the involvement of anyone who spent the majority of their career at the top level over the last 10-15 years.

For me it's important to remember what football ultimately is, an entertainment sport. The driving force behind the shape of the English game should be the fans.

Absolutely. Danny Mills is an absolute male private - and although I'm not a fan of Steve Claridge either, he made a fool of Mills when the League 3 thing first came about.

That's why I suggested we should have ex-players from all levels of the game. A Claridge-type figure can represent the lower league fans' views.

A very big financial deal has been signed to show more international matches on TV. This deal has a knock-on effect on the new produced league structure.

To accommodate more league matches (and at weekends) FA Cup matches were to be moved to mid-week. There is no room now for mid-week FAC matches as the additional TV coverage of international matches will take priority.

This scuppered plans for the new deal.

(As reported on national sports news today).