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Posted by: 120790 (Guest), October 24, 2016, 1:26pm
One thing that really does jump off the page for me with Paul's departure is his confidence. He is working in perhaps the most insecure job there is, football management. Regardless of the fact that he may have been attracted to the Shrews by a decent improvement to his personal terms, he has never the less taken on a club that is currently rock bottom and looking like relegation cannon fodder. It would have been very easy for him to comfortably stay put at Grimsby, secure a top ten place or even possibly a play off place, in relative security. Finishing off  a half decent first season back in the Football League season with Grimsby would have been yet another enhancement to his CV for any positions that came up at the end of the season.

So I would have to take my hat off to Paul Hurst in admiration for somebody that has the courage and confidence in his own ability as a coach and manager to take on what is going to be a really difficult job. The bloke must really have a lot of self belief.

I will miss Hursty. He was in my opinion a cracking manager at Grimsby. Never got too excited and went about his business in a very professional way. He steadied the ship so to speak, and that was no easy job for a guy that was also finding his feet in club management. He didn't suffer fools and made some really good signings for us. Got us back to the Football League after putting in a lot of hard work.

I don't think there is a manager out there that won't be subject to criticsim at some stage in his career. Paul got his fair share of this - but nobody can ever argue that he did the job he was paid for and did it very well. Grimsby was club in pain, hurting from 6 long years in none league football. Paul Hurst took his time and got us back into the Football League. John Fenty & Co need congratulating too on recognising that Paul needed supporting and not sacking.

I wish him all the best and I will watch his progress form afar now with great interest. Tough job you've took on there Paul.

Exciting times ahead for Town now and I hope and pray that Mr Fenty appoints a good manager at a time when there are some really good candidates out there.
Posted by: lew chaterleys lover, October 24, 2016, 1:34pm; Reply: 1
Quoted from 120790
One thing that really does jump off the page for me with Paul's departure is his confidence. He is working in perhaps the most insecure job there is, football management. Regardless of the fact that he may have been attracted to the Shrews by a decent improvement to his personal terms, he has never the less taken on a club that is currently rock bottom and looking like relegation cannon fodder. It would have been very easy for him to comfortably stay put at Grimsby, secure a top ten place or even possibly a play off place, in relative security. Finishing off  a half decent first season back in the Football League season with Grimsby would have been yet another enhancement to his CV for any positions that came up at the end of the season.

So I would have to take my hat off to Paul Hurst in admiration for somebody that has the courage and confidence in his own ability as a coach and manager to take on what is going to be a really difficult job. The bloke must really have a lot of self belief.

I will miss Hursty. He was in my opinion a cracking manager at Grimsby. Never got too excited and went about his business in a very professional way. He steadied the ship so to speak, and that was no easy job for a guy that was also finding his feet in club management. He didn't suffer fools and made some really good signings for us. Got us back to the Football League after putting in a lot of hard work.

I don't think there is a manager out there that won't be subject to criticsim at some stage in his career. Paul got his fair share of this - but nobody can ever argue that he did the job he was paid for and did it very well. Grimsby was club in pain, hurting from 6 long years in none league football. Paul Hurst took his time and got us back into the Football League. John Fenty & Co need congratulating too on recognising that Paul needed supporting and not sacking.

I wish him all the best and I will watch his progress form afar now with great interest. Tough job you've took on there Paul.

Exciting times ahead for Town now and I hope and pray that Mr Fenty appoints a good manager at a time when there are some really good candidates out there.


I think it just points to a bust up behind the scenes, again, and he wanted to get away. Money may have played a part, but he had the benefit of reasonable money here and as you say was secure. I guess we will never know the real reasons.
Posted by: WOZOFGRIMSBY, October 24, 2016, 1:38pm; Reply: 2
Something to do with wanting more backroom staff
Posted by: 1mickylyons, October 24, 2016, 1:45pm; Reply: 3
Whatever PH failings he is at the very least a steady pair of hands his type don't get relegated too often and that will suit any Shrews fanI just hope they dont want to be entertained and are prepared to travel if they want to see their team win?
Posted by: Dan, October 24, 2016, 1:47pm; Reply: 4


I think it just points to a bust up behind the scenes, again, and he wanted to get away. Money may have played a part, but he had the benefit of reasonable money here and as you say was secure. I guess we will never know the real reasons.


Honestly, I doubt it's a bust up. He achieved what he set out to do with town. Job done, he's looking for a new challenge. 6 years as manager of the same club is practically unheard of. Can't blame him for wanting a change.
Posted by: TheRonRaffertyFanClub, October 24, 2016, 2:15pm; Reply: 5
Quoted from 120790
One thing that really does jump off the page for me with Paul's departure is his confidence. He is working in perhaps the most insecure job there is, football management. Regardless of the fact that he may have been attracted to the Shrews by a decent improvement to his personal terms, he has never the less taken on a club that is currently rock bottom and looking like relegation cannon fodder. It would have been very easy for him to comfortably stay put at Grimsby, secure a top ten place or even possibly a play off place, in relative security. Finishing off  a half decent first season back in the Football League season with Grimsby would have been yet another enhancement to his CV for any positions that came up at the end of the season.

So I would have to take my hat off to Paul Hurst in admiration for somebody that has the courage and confidence in his own ability as a coach and manager to take on what is going to be a really difficult job. The bloke must really have a lot of self belief.

I will miss Hursty. He was in my opinion a cracking manager at Grimsby. Never got too excited and went about his business in a very professional way. He steadied the ship so to speak, and that was no easy job for a guy that was also finding his feet in club management. He didn't suffer fools and made some really good signings for us. Got us back to the Football League after putting in a lot of hard work.

I don't think there is a manager out there that won't be subject to criticsim at some stage in his career. Paul got his fair share of this - but nobody can ever argue that he did the job he was paid for and did it very well. Grimsby was club in pain, hurting from 6 long years in none league football. Paul Hurst took his time and got us back into the Football League. John Fenty & Co need congratulating too on recognising that Paul needed supporting and not sacking.

I wish him all the best and I will watch his progress form afar now with great interest. Tough job you've took on there Paul.

Exciting times ahead for Town now and I hope and pray that Mr Fenty appoints a good manager at a time when there are some really good candidates out there.


This is really naive. Hurst did a decent job here even if his personality didn't suit some people. By dint of good fortune, huge help from the supporters and a bit of ability he eventually managed to get the club back to where it should have been.

Confident? No. Sensible? Yes. Given that achievement, his star was at its peak in Grimsby he thinks. You could nearly hear the cogs going round in his head over the weekend.

"Criticism will break before long as because that gang of never satisfied clowns on the Fishy will be after my head at Christmas if the home form doesn't improve. The budget is spent, there is no chance of JF spending more on backroom staff that I want.

If I stay at BP the only way is down, the only way out is the sack.

So who wouldn't take a new start? Who wouldn't jump at the chance to leave all that sh!t behind and move up a notch at the same time. All I have to do is teach them how to defend, keep them up and hey presto I'm a hero again and ....... oh, is that Rotherham I hear on the phone?"

He has some ability in spotting players and he can coach a defensive game but he is a poor tactician especially during matches. However his clean sheet mentality and priority may be what the Shrews need right now. It's when they need a bit more than just a clean sheet and he has to dredge up some 3 pointers when the fun will start. I wish him well though. He did his best at BP and you can't ask for more than that.
Posted by: 1mickylyons, October 24, 2016, 2:22pm; Reply: 6
It could be argued the key to PH being promoted was the 110k the fans lobbed into his war chest
Posted by: 97 (Guest), October 24, 2016, 2:24pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from 1mickylyons
It could be argued the key to PH being promoted was the 110k the fans lobbed into his war chest


It's what paid for Bogle.
Posted by: mariner91, October 24, 2016, 4:21pm; Reply: 8
Quoted from 120790
I don't think there is a manager out there that won't be subject to criticsim at some stage in his career. Paul got his fair share of this - but nobody can ever argue that he did the job he was paid for and did it very well. Grimsby was club in pain, hurting from 6 long years in none league football. Paul Hurst took his time and got us back into the Football League. John Fenty & Co need congratulating too on recognising that Paul needed supporting and not sacking.

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He was in charge for five and a half of those years?!  ;D
Posted by: chaos33, October 24, 2016, 4:55pm; Reply: 9


This is really naive. Hurst did a decent job here even if his personality didn't suit some people. By dint of good fortune, huge help from the supporters and a bit of ability he eventually managed to get the club back to where it should have been.

Confident? No. Sensible? Yes. Given that achievement, his star was at its peak in Grimsby he thinks. You could nearly hear the cogs going round in his head over the weekend.

"Criticism will break before long as because that gang of never satisfied clowns on the Fishy will be after my head at Christmas if the home form doesn't improve. The budget is spent, there is no chance of JF spending more on backroom staff that I want.

If I stay at BP the only way is down, the only way out is the sack.

So who wouldn't take a new start? Who wouldn't jump at the chance to leave all that sh!t behind and move up a notch at the same time. All I have to do is teach them how to defend, keep them up and hey presto I'm a hero again and ....... oh, is that Rotherham I hear on the phone?"

He has some ability in spotting players and he can coach a defensive game but he is a poor tactician especially during matches. However his clean sheet mentality and priority may be what the Shrews need right now. It's when they need a bit more than just a clean sheet and he has to dredge up some 3 pointers when the fun will start. I wish him well though. He did his best at BP and you can't ask for more than that.


As usual an excellent post. I agree.
I would add though that I'm astonished at the size of the gamble from Shrewsbury on a man with 10 minutes of league management experience to his name and I think they are likely to find themselves relegated. I care not either way.

I sort of wish Hurst well, but what he and Doig did on Saturday eroded a fair amount of respect I had for them. After the ill prepared, non scoring team folded pathetically, a coward sent out a liar to be his fall guy and answer the inevitable questions he didn't have the guts to take responsibility for - and this a strategy from a man who's big on honesty.

Cheers then lads. Good luck with the new job and that.

UTFM
Posted by: MuddyWaters, October 24, 2016, 4:59pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from chaos33


As usual an excellent post. I agree.
I would add though that I'm astonished at the size of the gamble from Shrewsbury on a man with 10 minutes of league management experience to his name and I think they are likely to find themselves relegated. I care not either way.

I sort of wish Hurst well, but what he and Doig did on Saturday eroded a fair amount of respect I had for them. After the ill prepared, non scoring team folded pathetically, a coward sent out a liar to be his fall guy and answer the inevitable questions he didn't have the guts to take responsibility for - and this a strategy from a man who's big on honesty.


Agree with all of this - never a fan of Hurst but what he and Doig did on Saturday eroded any respect I had for them too. I also take issue with the fact that they were in the building at all on Saturday - we basically tossed away an opportunity to beat a pretty average team of cynical tossbags.
Posted by: sydney, October 24, 2016, 5:11pm; Reply: 11
F@@k sake only been away for hols and got wifi here in India and PH has gone!!
Like my previous post with Rotherham vacancy why would he turn his back on the best fans in the first or second division
Haven't looked at stats but wonder if their gate is as good as ours and away support forget it jeez....
Must have been the money but then u can ask how can they afford it?
PH Black & White Army for the last ten mins of last few away games and long after final whistle...... Money won't buy him that..
Evans as man motivator with McDermott as no 2 learning the ropes
That's not a bad shout
Come on Town!!
Posted by: grimsby pete, October 24, 2016, 5:37pm; Reply: 12
Putting 2 and 2 together, after was has been said not just today but the last few weeks,

I think and I could be wrong that honest John told Hurst he could have a fitness coach again,

Then backtracked and said you can have one if he works for free, ;)

Hence the little dig about working with honest people.
Posted by: Tommy, October 24, 2016, 5:41pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from chaos33


As usual an excellent post. I agree.
I would add though that I'm astonished at the size of the gamble from Shrewsbury on a man with 10 minutes of league management experience to his name and I think they are likely to find themselves relegated. I care not either way.

I sort of wish Hurst well, but what he and Doig did on Saturday eroded a fair amount of respect I had for them. After the ill prepared, non scoring team folded pathetically, a coward sent out a liar to be his fall guy and answer the inevitable questions he didn't have the guts to take responsibility for - and this a strategy from a man who's big on honesty.

Cheers then lads. Good luck with the new job.

UTFM


Should that not be our Board's responsibility to make sure that situation didn't happen this past weekend though?

I.e. the board should've placed Hurst and Doig on gardening leave. As has happened at other clubs in similar situations in the past.

I wouldn't quit my current job unless I had my next job set in stone. So I guess Hurst/Doig were never going to just resign in case Shrewsbury went for somebody else at the last minute. And they wouldn't have wanted to come public saying they wanted the Shrewsbury job in case it fell through, because in that case they'd have wanted to stay here (even if they wanted out they've still got bills to pay).
Posted by: Mrbusdriver, October 24, 2016, 5:42pm; Reply: 14
Quoted from grimsby pete
Putting 2 and 2 together, after was has been said not just today but the last few weeks,

I think and I could be wrong that honest John told Hurst he could have a fitness coach again,

Then backtracked and said you can have one if he works for free, ;)

Hence the little dig about working with honest people.



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Posted by: chaos33, October 24, 2016, 5:55pm; Reply: 15
Quoted from Tommy


Should that not be our Board's responsibility to make sure that situation didn't happen this past weekend though?

I.e. the board should've placed Hurst and Doig on gardening leave. As has happened at other clubs in similar situations in the past.

I wouldn't quit my current job unless I had my next job set in stone. So I guess Hurst/Doig were never going to just resign in case Shrewsbury went for somebody else at the last minute. And they wouldn't have wanted to come public saying they wanted the Shrewsbury job in case it fell through, because in that case they'd have wanted to stay here (even if they wanted out they've still got bills to pay).


Mate he could have come out and said whatever he liked. That's his responsibility. If you're going to get into that situation at least have the guts to come out and handle it, or just decline to be interviewed at all as a second best. To send out Doig for that mumbling debacle just made a mockery of the club and insulted its supporters.

I agree - they should have been nowhere near the team on Saturday so yes, the club called that wrong. It cost us yet another home defeat to a 'nothing team'. Waste of time and money and an insult to our intelligence and loyalty.

The one good thing to come out of this is the hope that we might now finally see an end to the pathetic and toothless home tactics we've had to suffer these last few years.
Posted by: KingstonMariner, October 24, 2016, 10:11pm; Reply: 16
Agree. That interview by Doig, who must have known what was going on, was derisory. Hurst never did like 'difficult' questions from JT. So both have lost a massive amount of respect. It would have been better for neither of them to appear or to 'no comment' the question.

Then they resign before the announcement that they'd got the Shrews job. Does that mean they had it in the bag already and were doing what Scott & Hurst did at Boston when tapped up by Fenty?

And had Shrewsbury really not approached GTFC on Friday when that statement was made? So when exactly did Shrewsbury make the approach - after the match on Saturday?!

None of the parties involved comes out of this one well.

In future GTFC would be better off with a policy of refusing to comment at all on any personnel changes until they happen. Just creating hostages to fortune.
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