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Posted by: ric1973, October 16, 2011, 5:49pm
Hi, i have over 1000 grimsby town programmes from the sixtys seventys and eightys, does any one collect them, i have loads of others too, fa cup final programmes, world cup final programmes, including 1966 world cup. email me if you want to come and look. cheers richard
Posted by: ric1973, October 16, 2011, 5:57pm; Reply: 1
They are all for sale, some very rare ones amongst them, lots of away fixture prorammes, and lots of other club programmes some from the fiftys.
Posted by: tintowner, October 16, 2011, 6:06pm; Reply: 2
You have a PM
Posted by: barralad, October 16, 2011, 6:37pm; Reply: 3
Quoted from tintowner
You have a PM


Damn...beat me to it!! But you now have another p.m.

Pistols at dawn Rob. Your choice of venue.... ;)
Posted by: ric1973, October 16, 2011, 7:02pm; Reply: 4
Rob and Ian if you want to come and look togeather, you are more than welcome. richard
Posted by: tintowner, October 16, 2011, 9:59pm; Reply: 5
Quoted from barralad


Damn...beat me to it!! But you now have another p.m.

Pistols at dawn Rob. Your choice of venue.... ;)


Ha Ha.....will have to be some godforsaken place built on wasteland..............Glandford Park it is then.  ;D
Posted by: jock dock tower, October 17, 2011, 1:05pm; Reply: 6
If there's anything you two don't need please let me know.
Posted by: 3670 (Guest), October 17, 2011, 5:29pm; Reply: 7
Jock you have a pm :)
Posted by: davmariner, October 17, 2011, 6:30pm; Reply: 8
Just out of interest how much would a World Cup final (1966) programme cost?
Posted by: jock dock tower, October 17, 2011, 7:07pm; Reply: 9
All depends as to whether it's an original or not, and there's numerous copies / reprints of it. I've got a couple, and I bought my last one at auction for £45 - admittedly to sell on for a profit as I'm a programme dealer. Really good mint ones would normally go for between £80 to 120. Others, which may be folded, creased, have the teams written in (they were blank when sold) reduces that amount considerably. The bottom's fell out of the programme market in the last few years, the same as it has with any kind of collectables market (a) because of ebay making programmes much more obtainable, and (b) because of the financial climate people have much less disposable income to spend on non essentials.
That's not to say there isn't money to be made, and Grimsby are a particularly well collected club whose older programmes regularly out perform others of a similar vintage. I believe that's because we (RJS Programmes) used to run the programme shop at BP in the late 80's and early 90's whereby we sold really good programmes at reasonable prices and had a fairly loyal clientele who regularly spent well in the shop. Those collectors, by and large, have stayed in the hobby and Town's older programme prices are reflected by their involvement.
Posted by: tintowner, October 17, 2011, 7:25pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from jock dock tower
All depends as to whether it's an original or not, and there's numerous copies / reprints of it. I've got a couple, and I bought my last one at auction for £45 - admittedly to sell on for a profit as I'm a programme dealer. Really good mint ones would normally go for between £80 to 120. Others, which may be folded, creased, have the teams written in (they were blank when sold) reduces that amount considerably. The bottom's fell out of the programme market in the last few years, the same as it has with any kind of collectables market (a) because of ebay making programmes much more obtainable, and (b) because of the financial climate people have much less disposable income to spend on non essentials.
That's not to say there isn't money to be made, and Grimsby are a particularly well collected club whose older programmes regularly out perform others of a similar vintage. I believe that's because we (RJS Programmes) used to run the programme shop at BP in the late 80's and early 90's whereby we sold really good programmes at reasonable prices and had a fairly loyal clientele who regularly spent well in the shop. Those collectors, by and large, have stayed in the hobby and Town's older programme prices are reflected by their involvement.


Well said John (clap2)
Posted by: Billybigbollox, October 17, 2011, 7:59pm; Reply: 11
was the guy who used 2 sell the programs called sid . . . When i was a young lad we used 2 go in and talk to him and amother old boy
Posted by: BIGChris, October 17, 2011, 9:19pm; Reply: 12
Quoted from Billybigbollox
was the guy who used 2 sell the programs called sid . . . When i was a young lad we used 2 go in and talk to him and amother old boy


Sid Woodhead?lived in Salisbury Drive Waltham?
Posted by: barralad, October 17, 2011, 9:26pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from BIGChris


Sid Woodhead?lived in Salisbury Drive Waltham?


The very same!
Posted by: jock dock tower, October 17, 2011, 10:27pm; Reply: 14
Quoted from Billybigbollox
was the guy who used 2 sell the programs called sid . . . When i was a young lad we used 2 go in and talk to him and amother old boy


I moved north in 1991, leaving Sid Woodhead and Ron Cowling behind as RJS Programmes. Ron died young of cancer within a short time of me leaving, and Sid persevered by himself, albeit ably and abetted by club historian Robert Briggs. When the club decided they wanted to expand commercially Sid had to vacate the shop and set up in St Aidans church hall on matchdays for a while, but it never really took off again, as he never had the day to day contact he used to have in the club shop. I hope I'm not the other "old boy" you refer to...only 37 when moving north! No other "old blokes" in there either.

Posted by: Billybigbollox, October 17, 2011, 10:50pm; Reply: 15
Quoted from jock dock tower


I moved north in 1991, leaving Sid Woodhead and Ron Cowling behind as RJS Programmes. Ron died young of cancer within a short time of me leaving, and Sid persevered by himself, albeit ably and abetted by club historian Robert Briggs. When the club decided they wanted to expand commercially Sid had to vacate the shop and set up in St Aidans church hall on matchdays for a while, but it never really took off again, as he never had the day to day contact he used to have in the club shop. I hope I'm not the other "old boy" you refer to...only 37 when moving north! No other "old blokes" in there either.



You may well of been the other man 37 would of been old back then to me as i was only around 10  :)...........Me and my mates used to enjoy going in and having a look ......Phil Neary used to be around quite a lot to as i remember ..........Regards young man ;)
Posted by: jock dock tower, October 18, 2011, 2:30pm; Reply: 16
Quoted from Billybigbollox


You may well of been the other man 37 would of been old back then to me as i was only around 10  :)...........Me and my mates used to enjoy going in and having a look ......Phil Neary used to be around quite a lot to as i remember ..........Regards young man ;)


So you'd have been Billy "wee" bollox then?

Posted by: bradzmilne, October 18, 2011, 3:38pm; Reply: 17
the one programme am after, is the famous liverpool game. Anyone interested in selling?
Posted by: barralad, October 18, 2011, 6:58pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from bradzmilne
the one programme am after, is the famous liverpool game. Anyone interested in selling?


Just keep your eye on e-bay. It comes up on there quite often...
Posted by: jock dock tower, October 18, 2011, 7:04pm; Reply: 19
There's more than one famous Liverpool game! Although we got humped in the late 1970's in the FACup, we did take an away support over over 20,000 - which is absolutely phenomenal. I also doubt whether that figure has ever been seen at Anfield before or since?
Posted by: bradzmilne, October 18, 2011, 7:40pm; Reply: 20
Quoted from barralad


Just keep your eye on e-bay. It comes up on there quite often...


been looking out for it for awhile but still havent found it. Cheers for advice though mate
Posted by: Billybigbollox, October 18, 2011, 10:08pm; Reply: 21
Quoted from jock dock tower


So you'd have been Billy "wee" bollox then?



Lol  ...........Talking of programs i have a old one Arsenal v Town from 1934 35 season .....Do you know how much its worth?
Posted by: jock dock tower, October 18, 2011, 10:28pm; Reply: 22
About the £40 to £60 mark. A lot of London clubs such as Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs were prolific programme producers pre WW2, and therefore they don't attract the premium prices that a club like Grimsby does for it's pre WW2 programmes whenever they turn up. Bigger clubs like the London ones used to plan their programme sales based on 60% of the crowd buying one, and with much bigger crowds than the Town (who would have budgeted for a much lesser sale based on available finance) it's no surprise that many still survive.
Another thing about pre WW2 programmes, fans were encouraged to hand them back at a lot of clubs. after the game to be recycled. Peter Dixons was in full production then - the country's largest paper reprocessing plant, so they'd only have had to make the short trip over the West Marsh to dispose of them to do their bit for the war effort. Amazing wee bits of history attached to football programmes, eh?
Posted by: Billybigbollox, October 18, 2011, 10:33pm; Reply: 23
Cheers mate .....Ill be giving my lad all my programs and tickets etc anyway
Posted by: jock dock tower, October 19, 2011, 8:04am; Reply: 24
Quoted from jock dock tower
About the £40 to £60 mark. A lot of London clubs such as Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs were prolific programme producers pre WW2, and therefore they don't attract the premium prices that a club like Grimsby does for it's pre WW2 programmes whenever they turn up. Bigger clubs like the London ones used to plan their programme sales based on 60% of the crowd buying one, and with much bigger crowds than the Town (who would have budgeted for a much lesser sale based on available finance) it's no surprise that many still survive.
Another thing about pre WW2 programmes, fans were encouraged to hand them back at a lot of clubs. after the game to be recycled. Peter Dixons was in full production then - the country's largest paper reprocessing plant, so they'd only have had to make the short trip over the West Marsh to dispose of them to do their bit for the war effort. Amazing wee bits of history attached to football programmes, eh?


Minor mistake there, it was the WW2 programmes that were asked to be handed back. Lots of paper was recycled anyway during the war so many thousands of programmes will have been pulped.

Posted by: crusty ole pie, October 19, 2011, 11:54am; Reply: 25
Hold on to them programmes there value may go up if the worst happens to our club
Posted by: MarinerMart, October 19, 2011, 11:24pm; Reply: 26
I have a load of GTFC programmes available as well all in good condition mostly homes.  Also loads of 1970's non Town available.
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