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The bit in bold is the frustrating thing for me.
I don't believe that JF posting on here (or any other GTFC forum) is a good idea personally but he does and that's 100% his choice to do so.
When he does, as he did last week (Friday?), he has the opportunity to engender some respect from the fans by answering the actual questions that he knows the fans are asking on here.
Instead though, he decides to make a post that is designed to do one thing and one thing only - to intimidate certain sections of the support from not attending the fans forum and asking these questions.
"I know exactly what questions you want answers to but I dare you to come and ask me them to my face, you're all keyboard warriors"
It's bully-boy intimidation tactics.
Instead of spending the time he did last week writing that post he could have actually answered the questions posed here - but all we got was an aggressive post that doesn't do anything other than turn more people against him (plus his primary objective of trying to put certain people off attending the fans forum).
I'd like to think that the Trust could canvas the supporters for questions to ask at the forum for those fans that are unable to attend.
He's moved the debate to his territory. Classic tactic.
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November 21, 2017, 1:00pm |
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Sorry, I have to pull you up on this as it is just plain wrong. Maybe you are only speaking to a small band of happy clappers but the conversations that I have been having in the past few weeks (both at games and away from BP) people (from all walks of life - not just on social media) ARE talking about the lack of entertainment and wanting rid of RS and having a change in the boardroom.
Don't apologise. Anyway it's only partly wrong because the first two of your points are encompassed in my point about lack of success on the pitch. You are as likely to mix in circles which broadly agree with your opinion as I am to mix with people who broadly agree with mine. I'm talking about people engaging me in conversation because of my role with the Trust not particularly friends. It would greatly assist in debate if the term "happy clappers" for someone who doesn't share in the dystopian view about the club could be dispensed with but there we go.
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Civvy at last |
November 21, 2017, 1:06pm |
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I agree with what you are saying Ginny. A few months back I was going on and on about not getting my lifetime membership card from the Trust, I just wanted in my wallet as I travel round Suffolk, Now I am not bothered if they send me it or not.Very poor Trust
Which is a great shame Pete as you have now ruined the surprise. John Fenty was going to present you with it when you are having Christmas dinner with him
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Ipswin |
November 21, 2017, 1:09pm |
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Where’s your full stop?
I haven't finished the sentence yet. The full stop would have come after 'you thick twit'.
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jock dock tower |
November 21, 2017, 1:13pm |
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You misspelt "twit" surely?
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Mariner Ronnie |
November 21, 2017, 1:14pm |
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I haven't finished the sentence yet. The full stop would have come after 'you thick twit'.
Where’s your comma?
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HertsGTFC |
November 21, 2017, 1:19pm |
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Don't apologise. Anyway it's only partly wrong because the first two of your points are encompassed in my point about lack of success on the pitch. You are as likely to mix in circles which broadly agree with your opinion as I am to mix with people who broadly agree with mine. I'm talking about people engaging me in conversation because of my role with the Trust not particularly friends. It would greatly assist in debate if the term "happy clappers" for someone who doesn't share in the dystopian view about the club could be dispensed with but there we go.
Away from the terminology I have always been interested to understand if the club use the Trust as a consultative body away from any board meetings? e.g.lets say away at Lincoln this season we get an allocation of 400 tickets does the Trust get asked it's view on how the ticketing would work?
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November 21, 2017, 1:29pm |
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Barralad's comments echo what I could say. Historically, whenever people are given the chance to affect change they haven't taken it. The Fishy is only a snapshot of a few supporters, it's not the voice of a majority. In the last two weeks I've had one private message and one email about the future of the Trust and/or the club. That's two people. We had about 20 at the AGM and a similar number at the open meeting.
We've already committed to surveying all fans and finding out what people want the Trust to do. You can go to the fans forum next week, watch it on YouTube or listen on RH. Get involved. You can't and won't get change from moaning on here. I'll be the Trust rep on the panel so ask away.
I don't know where you go after the games but if you pop in the Cons or Blundell you will get a clear vision of what the fans think. Six of us go to the game and I'm the only one on the fishy. Out of the six we all want Slade out (never wanted him in the first place) and five want Fenty out. Five are agreed that no matter what Fenty will do just what he wants to do and that's where the apathy comes from with the fans.
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Quagmire |
November 21, 2017, 1:38pm |
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Cod Almighty diary today: “So to show the club really is open, that it wants a good dialogue with its most committed supporters, and to remove all scope for cynicism about the fans' forum, let me suggest this. Set up a public forum in which people can post their questions in advance to be read by all. Publish criteria showing any kinds of question that cannot be raised. Have a neutral moderator apply those criteria to filter out any unacceptable questions. Add voting buttons to allow readers to prioritise the questions we most want answered. Then use the votes to help decide which questions are heard next Tuesday. The panel will have time to prepare considered answers and those attending will have time to consider follow-up questions. The club, in short, would be seen to be open and transparent. It is not the keyboard warriors the club needs to worry about. It is the 300 or so fans who, after watching the 0-0 draw with Cambridge, decided not to bother last Saturday.” http://www.codalmighty.com/site/ca.php?article=6506
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barralad |
November 21, 2017, 1:55pm |
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Away from the terminology I have always been interested to understand if the club use the Trust as a consultative body away from any board meetings? e.g.lets say away at Lincoln this season we get an allocation of 400 tickets does the Trust get asked it's view on how the ticketing would work?
If we only get 400 tickets for Lincoln I'll be chaining myself to the door of the big church in protest. Seriously though cast your mind back to the Doncaster away last year bunfight. The decisions on tickets are made by the office staff not the club board. We hold regular meetings with the office people and strong representations were made about the decisions on ticketing for that match. I guess the proof of the pudding is in the eating but I believe it is significant that the club haven't adopted that policy since. It would be unfair of me not to say though that there is considerable hassle attached to selling tickets on behalf of another club and especially for local derbies but we (including me) can forget what an advantage it is that we can simply roll up to B.P. to get a ticket rather than deal with another club's idiosyncracys...remember Wembley tickets/booking fees etc.?
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