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If Fenty and board members read the Fishy regularly then they'll know how the majority of us feel about a whole range of stuff. They'll know our concerns and fears.
It's what they do with that information that concerns me most.
Because right now it feels like they just sit on it until they get really angry and then they come bursting on here with passive aggressive nonsense like last week.
That achieves absolutely nothing.
It explains why the fans feel like they don't listen. Fenty says he's open and honest but he really isn't. We only hear from him when he's trying to rectify something.
Things wouldn't need rectifying if he was as honest and open as he thinks he is. If us fans had a better grasp of the true difficulties that come with running a football club then maybe we'd be more sympathetic to his cause.
But because he's a closed book - voting for things without consulting us first, not speaking up for fans that needed his support in the Stevenage case, being aggressive on here, etc - he'll simply continue driving a wedge between him and the fans.
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November 21, 2017, 12:37pm |
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Barralad's comments echo what I could say. Historically, whenever people are given the chance to affect change they haven't taken it. The Fishy is only a snapshot of a few supporters, it's not the voice of a majority. In the last two weeks I've had one private message and one email about the future of the Trust and/or the club. That's two people. We had about 20 at the AGM and a similar number at the open meeting.
We've already committed to surveying all fans and finding out what people want the Trust to do. You can go to the fans forum next week, watch it on YouTube or listen on RH. Get involved. You can't and won't get change from moaning on here. I'll be the Trust rep on the panel so ask away.
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barralad |
November 21, 2017, 12:42pm |
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I have met Barralad, done some work at his house in fact, and yes he is a top bloke. I'm not criticising him in any way, i just disagree with some of what he said. The Trust have a thankless task and are in danger of becoming stuck in the middle of the war of words currently happening. I did seriously consider becoming more involved with the Trust and volunteering what little skill set i have to them, but i decided it wasn't worth the grief and i now find myself in a position where i don't even want to watch the team, never mind anything else involving GTFC.
Fook me! If I was a catholic I'd be having a word about the possibility of sainthood. I'm a Town fan and a Socialist which surprisingly makes me used to being disagreed with! I will debate with anyone and will defend anyone's right to express a view
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grimsby pete |
November 21, 2017, 12:43pm |
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Seriously Pete, how many times have we contacted you on this issue?!
That's what I meant I still have not got it but it does not matter now I have lost interest in all things Grimsby Town at the moment.
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mariner91 |
November 21, 2017, 12:47pm |
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The apathy from long term and previously passionate supporters is extremely concerning. Do these people who feel that way think that a regime change could bring the spark back? Purely hypothetical but I'm interested because if not then the long term future of the club is not good.
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Mariner Ronnie |
November 21, 2017, 12:53pm |
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I disagree, you certainly could HAVE worded it better
Where’s your full stop?
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Quagmire |
November 21, 2017, 12:54pm |
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Much maligned as the Fishy may be from some quarters, the directors do view the site and read the posts, even to the point of printing some of them out and keeping them. There can't be many clubs where that is the case, and where there is such a direct route to the gaze of the decision makers. They don't really need the trust to tell them questions like the one raised by the OP because doubtless they have read the topic for themselves and are perfectly aware that it is an issue that is being debated at length.
The bit in bold is the frustrating thing for me. I don't believe that JF posting on here (or any other GTFC forum) is a good idea personally but he does and that's 100% his choice to do so. When he does, as he did last week (Friday?), he has the opportunity to engender some respect from the fans by answering the actual questions that he knows the fans are asking on here. Instead though, he decides to make a post that is designed to do one thing and one thing only - to intimidate certain sections of the support from not attending the fans forum and asking these questions. "I know exactly what questions you want answers to but I dare you to come and ask me them to my face, you're all keyboard warriors" It's bully-boy intimidation tactics. Instead of spending the time he did last week writing that post he could have actually answered the questions posed here - but all we got was an aggressive post that doesn't do anything other than turn more people against him (plus his primary objective of trying to put certain people off attending the fans forum). I'd like to think that the Trust could canvas the supporters for questions to ask at the forum for those fans that are unable to attend.
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ginnywings |
November 21, 2017, 12:54pm |
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Fook me! If I was a catholic I'd be having a word about the possibility of sainthood. I'm a Town fan and a Socialist which surprisingly makes me used to being disagreed with! I will debate with anyone and will defend anyone's right to express a view
St. Barra ov Scaffa. Being a socialist GTFC fan myself, i get what you say.
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cannylad68 |
November 21, 2017, 12:55pm |
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Unfortunately it isn't just one thing to get the fans back. Entertainment goes a good way.
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HertsGTFC |
November 21, 2017, 12:59pm |
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That's what I meant I still have not got it but it does not matter now I have lost interest in all things Grimsby Town at the moment.
Then I'll guess you'll restrict yourself to the non football board then?
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