Fenty, where does the fishy stand?

Fenty, where does the fishy stand?

What are your current views on JF, what is the true current feeling amongst fishy members.

I think he should convert the benign debt into shares and stay as a director with no PR capabilities, and appoint someone capable to run the club as Chairman.

I think the events of the last 10 days show that the major shareholder has lost touch with the clubs fans. For that reason alone, he should consider what's best for GTFC

Many organisations and businesses suffer with this same phenomenon, called the "HiPPO".  It stands for "Highest Paid Person's Opinion", and is where the organisation is held back because the many talented and better-qualified people within it have their ideas and skills squashed by an overbearing person who thinks that because they have the fattest wallet, they are the only one with any good ideas.

JF is a HiPPO.  He helped keep the club going at a crucial point and there's no doubting that he's a true fan who wears his heart on his sleeve (probably also one of his weaknesses), but I think he now has to accept that the time has come where he's now taken the club as far as he can.

We were talking about questions for him at the Forum on another thread.  I'd like to know if he believes that he's staying at the club because the club needs him, or because he needs the club (and the faint hope he may one day get some of his money out)

It seems to me that both choices facing Fenty end up with him not getting his money back.  He can decide how that happens and what his legacy ultimately is:

1)  Either stay on and the club dies a slow death, unable to attract investment to a club where one man has his hand round the financial throat and be remembered as the man who mismanaged a proud traditional football club into oblivion., or...

2)  He bows out gracefully, gifting his shareholding to the Mariners' Trust and the people of Grimsby, so the club can be made more attractive to investors or benefactors, and new leadership can come in to build the relationships and goodwill the club needs.  He retires back to the terraces with our eternal thanks for sticking with the club through non-league and doing the right and honourable thing.

Currently 9 out of 87 want you to carry on as you are Mr Fenty - that 9 probably includes you & your brothers so that's 5 out of 83.

Vocal minority.  

Seriously, if he just walked out tomorrow, do you think there would be a smooth transition? It's been so long since anyone else has run the club is there anyone who knows what to do if he just walked out the door? If he's going to go, I'd like to see an orderly transition with some sort of timetable and exit date.

Quoted from GrimRob

Seriously, if he just walked out tomorrow, do you think there would be a smooth transition? It's been so long since anyone else has run the club is there anyone who knows what to do if he just walked out the door? If he's going to go, I'd like to see an orderly transition with some sort of timetable and exit date.

I'm sure the club could find someone else to swan around in a suit looking smug.

Quoted from GrimRob

Seriously, if he just walked out tomorrow, do you think there would be a smooth transition? It's been so long since anyone else has run the club is there anyone who knows what to do if he just walked out the door? If he's going to go, I'd like to see an orderly transition with some sort of timetable and exit date.

Frankly, we're in such a mess, does it matter?

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Frankly, we're in such a mess, does it matter?

Are we? Bills get paid, wages get paid, the club is always open for business. The commercial operation runs pretty smoothly and has done for years.That's before you even start thinking about money for new signings and paying staff off.

Quoted from GrimRob

Are we? Bills get paid, wages get paid, the club is always open for business. The commercial operation runs pretty smoothly and has done for years.That's before you even start thinking about money for new signings and paying staff off.

Well I'm glad you're OK with watching excrement football in a excrement ground, a team with a Dad's Army defence and zero goal threat. That's before we start on the way the fans have been treated....wasn't it you who started the thread about relegation?

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Well I'm glad you're OK with watching excrement football in a excrement ground, a team with a Dad's Army defence and zero goal threat. That's before we start on the way the fans have been treated....wasn't it you who started the thread about relegation?

I never suggested I am happy with any of those things, but the smooth running of the club (a completely unrelated matter) is paramount.

Quoted from GrimRob

I never suggested I am happy with any of those things, but the smooth running of the club (a completely unrelated matter) is paramount.

The 'smooth running' of the club is surely irrelevant if the product's crap?

If a business person came in with any business savvy the first thing they would do is ensure the club ran smoothly with most of the people who are presently employed in those areas. It isn't that side of the Company that needs changing. The clubs needs fresh impetus in the boardroom and in the managing of the football team.

Quoted from GrimRob

Seriously, if he just walked out tomorrow, do you think there would be a smooth transition? It's been so long since anyone else has run the club is there anyone who knows what to do if he just walked out the door? If he's going to go, I'd like to see an orderly transition with some sort of timetable and exit date.

FEXIT

Many have posted Fentys long history of his time in charge. Let’s face it, it’s diabolical. If it was any other business (other than a football club), it would have folded by now. Shareholders would have seen off the chairman. It cannot be right that one man can have such an atrocious CV during his time in charge and still remain in that position. It just wouldn’t happen in any other area apart from a dictatorshop. Change is never easy and many will shy away from promoting it at any cost. But change is what  is required and the sooner the better.

......and thanking or giving Fenty some slack for his loans. No, what has it really done for the club. Has everyone been enjoying the product on offer since his tenure began?

Where do I stand on JF? Quite simply if he still wants to be a "big" figure at the club start thinking "big" not just with the stadium project but also with manager and player recruitment, fan engagement, PR, schemes to boost attendances etc... etc... then maybe his supposed search for more investment may just make us a half decent proposition to invest in.

Seems to me the problem is that JF is not only conservative in his politics he's also the same in his approach to running GTFC. Stick around by all means but earn the fuckin right to have the role you have.        

Fenty and Slade are like a flipping robson and gerome CD

Quoted from OneLove

Fenty and Slade are like a flipping robson and gerome CD

That good OneLove, I had them down for Arthur Mullard & Hylda Baker You're The 1 That I Want, which is quite fitting as Fenty wanted Slade, Slade is the one wearing the black wig.

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Whatever people’s opinion on JF he’s not going anywhere. The best we can hope for is that he comes to his senses and gets rid of Russell Slade. I’ll take that as a starter for ten.

Quoted from wiggers

Whatever people’s opinion on JF he’s not going anywhere. The best we can hope for is that he comes to his senses and gets rid of Russell Slade. I’ll take that as a starter for ten.

You may well be right but it just means the nightmare continues