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What's the point of a new manager? The board get it wrong 90% of the time anyway and we are stuck with godawful players in the main. It will just be different manager, same shite.
May as well put the names of all the managers we could realistically hope to attract into a hat and let a random fan pick one out. The chances of success would be about the same.
Managers do make a difference look at Hurst at Shrews and Port Fail since Aspin took charge
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November 11, 2017, 6:41pm |
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Yep, I'm not someone who usually demands we sack a manager because, like ginnywigs says, history shows we're more than likely to appoint another manager who'll ultimately fall short.
Sackings very rarely work.
But what does work is looking a little further than just the manager. Have we got a strong and sustainable infrastructure? What's our youth set-up like? What's our policy in bringing them through?
Then, if we need a new manager, we get one that's suitable for our situation.
I hate raking over old ground but MB was the right sort of appointment at the time. He built Solihull and Birmingham Ladies from nothing. He had ideas, ambitions and potential.
He did, of course, have flaws - and I don't think the way he flooded our squad with loads of new signings and upset everyone helped in the short term - but he was young and he was looking to build something here too.
Slade isn't a manager who's thinking of tomorrow. He's only thinking today, this season. Look at his track record - no promotions. Decent at keeping teams up, granted. That, to me, says survival and nothing beyond.
What we need is a young, up-and-coming manager who already has a promotion or two on his CV at a lower level who can see what we've got and work with it.
We got it half right with MB. I think he went into it like a bull in a china shop. A bit more patience from someone else looking to prove himself as a FL manager, and who knows which talent to bring up through the leagues with him, is the best way to go.
But for now we have Slade. In terms of records, Bignot was sacked for less (Slade has a worse points-per-game record) so it'll be interesting to see how Fenty plays it if we continue struggling for goals and finish 19th.,
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November 11, 2017, 6:41pm |
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Managers do make a difference look at Hurst at Shrews and Port Fail since Aspin took charge
Agreed, but we keep picking the wrong one time and again. Who on our board has any footballing knowledge to speak of?
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grimsby pete |
November 11, 2017, 6:42pm |
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I have no confidence in Fenty finding the right man for the job.
So it makes no difference if Slade stays or goes.
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November 11, 2017, 7:15pm |
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Don't know what was worse Bigclots team getting hamered playing lop sided systems or Slades lingering death driving fans away through bordom. Coventry fans did warn us if any where needed. Someone once said defence starts from the front Slade seems to have taken that as gospel but forgot about everyting else. Seen him from behind the dugout screaming at our attackers to hold it in the corner late on even when we are drawing. His definition of attack is something you use to hold the carpet in place.
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November 11, 2017, 7:15pm |
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oh and the other little nugget when asked for positives to take...
"i thought Summers was again steady"
sorry....saying you thought the naturally more attacking of the centre mid duo having "a steady" game is a positive is shameful.
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Slade must go and take Wilko with him. He should have never been re employed. Ive been angry about loads of Fentys decisions but never so more than when he brought that clown back and insisted on bringing another dinosaur in Wilko just to appease some fans.
Fenty just intercourse off before you kill our club. If you were a true fan like you say you would go for the good of the club you say you love.
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HertsGTFC |
November 11, 2017, 7:21pm |
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Yep, I'm not someone who usually demands we sack a manager because, like ginnywigs says, history shows we're more than likely to appoint another manager who'll ultimately fall short.
Sackings very rarely work.
But what does work is looking a little further than just the manager. Have we got a strong and sustainable infrastructure? What's our youth set-up like? What's our policy in bringing them through?
Then, if we need a new manager, we get one that's suitable for our situation.
I hate raking over old ground but MB was the right sort of appointment at the time. He built Solihull and Birmingham Ladies from nothing. He had ideas, ambitions and potential.
He did, of course, have flaws - and I don't think the way he flooded our squad with loads of new signings and upset everyone helped in the short term - but he was young and he was looking to build something here too.
Slade isn't a manager who's thinking of tomorrow. He's only thinking today, this season. Look at his track record - no promotions. Decent at keeping teams up, granted. That, to me, says survival and nothing beyond.
What we need is a young, up-and-coming manager who already has a promotion or two on his CV at a lower level who can see what we've got and work with it.
We got it half right with MB. I think he went into it like a bull in a china shop. A bit more patience from someone else looking to prove himself as a FL manager, and who knows which talent to bring up through the leagues with him, is the best way to go.
But for now we have Slade. In terms of records, Bignot was sacked for less (Slade has a worse points-per-game record) so it'll be interesting to see how Fenty plays it if we continue struggling for goals and finish 19th.,
MB was the right "sort" of appointment but just the wrong man, yes he did well at a much lower level than league 2 but only had 3 months experience in the NL never mind the EFL so for me that debacle sits clearly with JF. We had a "up and coming manager" with 2 promotions on his CV when he arrived and one more on there when he left, problem was that JF and many fans didn't value & appreciate what we actually had. Slade does have one thing in common with MB and that is they get an easy time from JT in interviews, talk a lot but actually says nothing.
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November 11, 2017, 7:25pm |
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There isn't really anyone unless you go lower than national league.
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HertsGTFC |
November 11, 2017, 7:28pm |
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There isn't really anyone unless you go lower than national league.
Or a coach/assistant manager from the EFL
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