NEW STADIUM

Is there an update on the New Stadium?? It all seems to have gone very quiet on that front!!

I'm not sure that I'll ever see it in my lifetime.

It would be good if the Club gave regular updates but because it's not been mentioned.......

Considering extreme are supposed to get you to live the brand it all seems very quiet doesn’t it  

The PM is in today`s paper talking up the local plan for the area if this is going to happen it will be now or never. Based on nothing more than what I have heard from people that I would expect to be ITK I would say GTFC will be playing in a brand new stadium before 2025.

Be patient

From what I've read, I think this is where we are at presently or at least the last update reported..

March 22 2017

Director John Fenty said: “We’ve now got to get a legal agreement between the council, the club and Extreme. That will probably take two to three months. In the meantime, there will be some work going on – that’s never stopped.

You can't rush these things  

Bloody hell saw the thread title and rushed to the telewag web sight expecting to see a full frontal in colour of jf digging the the first sod of turf

Vote this dogshit council out we might have a better chance.

NEW STADIUM = No fookin chance

[quote=290]The PM is in today`s paper talking up the local plan for the area if this is going to happen it will be now or never. Based on nothing more than what I have heard from people that I would expect to be ITK I would say GTFC will be playing in a brand new stadium before 2025.[/quote

Theresa May isn’t even in charge of her own party so dont believe a word she says, can’t wait for season 2025/26

I live in hope that I will be sat in the new stadium watching my team,

BUT

I can not live forever.

Still hoping it will happen in my lifetime though.

Even Cleethorpes Town FC are building a new stadium, right now.

Talking to Paddy McTurnip at dance lessons last night and he gave me some interesting news- he has been asked by nameless to recruit 5 other ex tatty diggers to start digging the foundations of a state of the art complex in a secret location - he wouldn't elaborate but could this be the news we have all been waiting for- my information from Paddy is 90% correct so far-fingers crossed he is right again-----

Quoted from grimsby pete

I live in hope that I will be sat in the new stadium watching my team,

BUT

I can not live forever.

Still hoping it will happen in my lifetime though.

How old are you Pete---18

Quoted from golfer

How old are you Pete---18

I wish I was and know what I know now.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

You can't rush these things  

too right....Scunny moved and now just a mere 30 yrs (?) later want to move again......if we move we move for good, those Main Stand timbers only have one more move in them so we need to make sure we get it right when they are put back up at PP !!

Quoted from chelseacity

Even Cleethorpes Town FC are building a new stadium, right now.

We should share theirs  

You never know, we might eventually go from Cleethorpes playing in Grimsby and Grimsby playing in Cleethorpes to Cleethorpes playing in Cleethorpes and Grimsby playing in Grimsby.

It does appear to be not being mentioned a lot apart from on here. As mentioned, other clubs get theirs sorted, only with this council de fruityarse drags his heels.

Unfortunately, I was at the crem on Monday, and spoke to our kid about the new ground on leaving. Neither of us could see how on earth this new ground would effect anyone with a bloody allotment! Yes, a bit of noise for a couple of hours on a Saturday maybe, but, then again, am guessing these tw@ts listen to the tv on mute!

It would not hurt for thevoiveofreason just to pop up on here and say things are still on stream moving a little slowly than hoped or something similar 6 months without mentioning it is too long

Quoted from crusty ole pie

It would not hurt for thevoiveofreason just to pop up on here and say things are still on stream moving a little slowly than hoped or something similar 6 months without mentioning it is too long

Getyourfactsright.  

Quoted from ginnywings

Getyourfactsnamesright.  

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

It does appear to be not being mentioned a lot apart from on here. As mentioned, other clubs get theirs sorted, only with this council de fruityarse drags his heels.
!

As much of  a pantomime villain he is, the club havn't put any solid plans or applications forward yet have they? ..so he or any opposition cant actually block, drag or obstruct anything !!

Who on earth is going to invest in this town-there is that much building land not used already so why would anybody want to buy land for building houses never mind shopping centres. We don't even need a cinema-the council had one earmarked for the white elephant Macauley street/Cromwell Road site-then there is going to be one at the Riverhead-NOT. Ramsdens has shut down and intend to build a shopping centre nearby-NOT    The Precinct shopping centre is struggling--both markets have more empty stalls than those in use.Un employment is down every street-who are these developers hoping to get their profits from-can't see it being in my lifetime.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Laugh out loud o yes him too

It never ceases to amaze me how fukin stupid people are we spend all that time debating and arguing about PP when it's not even the best site, of we can't choose the most appropriate site how will we ever get the thing built?

Extreme lesuire ? Why would we get into bed with a company that just appears to be a web site and has never built anything like this before?

This "proposal" as it is in reality only that at this stage is essential for GTFC to move forward without a doubt but a number of questions cause me concern,

1 How much debt will it land is in?
2 Have the accountants identified the break even point to service that debt?
3 In reality how many home supporters do the club truly believe they can attract each week that make this work?
4 How much commercial income will need to be generated annually?
5 Who will be taking the commercial units at the site?

The whole thing from start to finish feels very scruffy.

Update definitely required from fetyourfactsstraigt I reckon

Quoted from Mariner Ronnie

Vote this dogshit council out we might have a better chance.

There going to be to busy looking through your bin to raise more cash with fines to go with the money they are always fleecing off the motorists to keep the country going, while the Tories cut even more money from the tax payers to pay for a train for the rich and a bunch of missiles to rust away in a bunker somewhere. Sorry for the rant but I do feel better. UTMM

Quoted from HertsGTFC

It never ceases to amaze me how fukin stupid people are we spend all that time debating and arguing about PP when it's not even the best site, of we can't choose the most appropriate site how will we ever get the thing built?

Extreme lesuire ? Why would we get into bed with a company that just appears to be a web site and has never built anything like this before?

This "proposal" as it is in reality only that at this stage is essential for GTFC to move forward without a doubt but a number of questions cause me concern,

1 How much debt will it land is in?
2 Have the accountants identified the break even point to service that debt?
3 In reality how many home supporters do the club truly believe they can attract each week that make this work?
4 How much commercial income will need to be generated annually?
5 Who will be taking the commercial units at the site?

The whole thing from start to finish feels very scruffy.

Update definitely required from fetyourfactsstraigt I reckon

Like it or not, the current product, both on and off the pitch, needs to be a hell of a lot better than it is currently in order to attract the kind of attendances that will justify a new stadium. Much as I would like to see us in a shiny new arena, loads of work still needs to be done to achieve it.

I would agree on all counts Codger!

Quoted from HertsGTFC

I would agree on all counts Codger!

Other clubs not doing particularly well have built new stadia and some done ok some not so , but if we don’t do it what will come of the club long term ? We’ve got to do it simple as ... just prey it happens

I blame Brexit.

We've been at Blundell Park for 118 years, I do like the 19th century but I don't like experiencing it!

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

Other clubs not doing particularly well have built new stadia and some done ok some not so , but if we don’t do it what will come of the club long term ? We’ve got to do it simple as ... just prey it happens

Don't get me wrong - I totally see the need for it financially. What worries me is creating a 'white elephant' that is always less than 50% full with no atmosphere - particularly when it appears to be in a location that few want and is being driven by a company with no experience of delivering such a project. Just putting a bit of reality out there.

Echo my feelings old codger.

No new stadium is better than a rubbish, money pit new stadium.

Quoted from psgmariner

Echo my feelings old codger.

No new stadium is better than a rubbish, money pit new stadium.

I'll go a stage further PSG - it will only be worth doing if an individual is able to put a really substantial amount of money into the club to ensure that the standards on the pitch are capable of sustaining crowds in the region of 8-10k, week in, week out.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

It never ceases to amaze me how fukin stupid people are we spend all that time debating and arguing about PP when it's not even the best site, of we can't choose the most appropriate site how will we ever get the thing built?

Extreme lesuire ? Why would we get into bed with a company that just appears to be a web site and has never built anything like this before?

This "proposal" as it is in reality only that at this stage is essential for GTFC to move forward without a doubt but a number of questions cause me concern,

1 How much debt will it land is in?
2 Have the accountants identified the break even point to service that debt?
3 In reality how many home supporters do the club truly believe they can attract each week that make this work?
4 How much commercial income will need to be generated annually?
5 Who will be taking the commercial units at the site?

The whole thing from start to finish feels very scruffy.

Update definitely required from fetyourfactsstraigt I reckon

Can't understand why this got so many red crosses.

Quoted from RichMariner

You never know, we might eventually go from Cleethorpes playing in Grimsby and Grimsby playing in Cleethorpes to Cleethorpes playing in Cleethorpes and Grimsby playing in Grimsby.

Given that Cleethorpes Town is developing their site at 'Laportes', it could be a long while before they're in Cleethorpes. It's on the Grimsby side of Clee Road.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Don't get me wrong - I totally see the need for it financially. What worries me is creating a 'white elephant' that is always less than 50% full with no atmosphere - particularly when it appears to be in a location that few want and is being driven by a company with no experience of delivering such a project. Just putting a bit of reality out there.

Just like BP then.  

Quoted from ginnywings

Just like BP then.  

Yep - excrement football = excrement attendance = excrement atmosphere which would be even worse in a bigger stadium. Said all along that a new stadium would be great but only if we've got a team to justify it. Sadly, at present, we haven't.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Yep - excrement football = excrement attendance = excrement atmosphere which would be even worse in a bigger stadium. Said all along that a new stadium would be great but only if we've got a team to justify it. Sadly, at present, we haven't.

Shall we not bother then?

I thought the possibility of a new stadium was a good thing, but going on the myriad negative comments on this thread, it seems most people are happy to bumble along in a dilapidated, drafty old pile with no decent facilities. Who said the people of GY were negative and backward looking?

I particularly appreciate the positive spin from Golfer and Herts, both of whom left GY to live elsewhere.

Quoted from ginnywings

Shall we not bother then?

I thought the possibility of a new stadium was a good thing, but going on the myriad negative comments on this thread, it seems most people are happy to bumble along in a dilapidated, drafty old pile with no decent facilities. Who said the people of GY were negative and backward looking?

I particularly appreciate the positive spin from Golfer and Herts, both of whom left GY to live elsewhere.

Well I live in town and il say old cover is talking bollox

Quoted from ginnywings

Shall we not bother then?

I thought the possibility of a new stadium was a good thing, but going on the myriad negative comments on this thread, it seems most people are happy to bumble along in a dilapidated, drafty old pile with no decent facilities. Who said the people of GY were negative and backward looking?

I particularly appreciate the positive spin from Golfer and Herts, both of whom left GY to live elsewhere.

Not me....get the thing built ASAP

Any latest news on it John ? ........"pretty please".

Quoted from ginnywings

Shall we not bother then?

I thought the possibility of a new stadium was a good thing, but going on the myriad negative comments on this thread, it seems most people are happy to bumble along in a dilapidated, drafty old pile with no decent facilities. Who said the people of GY were negative and backward looking?

I particularly appreciate the positive spin from Golfer and Herts, both of whom left GY to live elsewhere.

Well said Ginny. I've been a bit incredulous about some of the comments on this thread.

The only way we can progress is offering 21st century facilities in a 21st century stadium. Not withstanding team performance, the improved matchday experience can only help boost attendances.

I just want to see some progress. We don't seem to be making any ostensible movements forward given the length of time without any news. Council delays, then we make it through one of their hurdles, then the club seems to drag its heels. Weeks turn into months and months into years, a never ending process of inching forward then a long period of silence. Fans need to be sold a future, it can impact on decisions made in the present. ie Club - Stadium's going to be built by 2020. Fans - Ok, we're finding it tough at the moment but we'll stay loyal until then.

The silence is deafening at the minute and a little worrying.

In my mind we've got everything to gain from a new stadium.

My only two reservations are that I'm worried that the stadium design itself won't have the wow factor we all crave and secondly the cost of the aforementioned bridging loan to cover the phased housing plan impacts on the future playing budget, so the entertainment and competitiveness of the team won't match expectation.

After all, we are talking about much bigger numbers than any board member can underwrite if the project comes up against an unplanned for pitfall.

Any news would be welcome to allay any doubts..

Pretty excrement communications really. I’d have thought a once a month update (even saying there’s no further news) on the OS wouldn’t be difficult to manage. I wrongly imagined that one thing Extreme would be good at was communicating as they seem to have parlayed themselves a role in this project without previous experience. I’d have thought they’d be on the phone saying ‘John, stakeholder engagement. You’ve got to keep the punters up to date.’

What Bigdog says is bang on for me. The silence is a concern, as is the credibility of the partner at this level, being able to generate the income makes me nervous as in reality when we where doing well gates where not through the roof.

I think it's the only way we can really move forward long term and apart from putting the club in jeopardy we should do all we can to get it built.

Re the design? Well let's submit the plans and then we'll see.

perhaps an foi request to the council would prompt an update, after all it is public land we are talking about.

I think the council are patiently waiting for a planning application. There is nothing else they can do until fenty gets his act together.
I  am sure the uncertainty of brexit isn't helping, along with the two town centre developments. Who would gamble on buying in to the stadium project when there could be the potentially massive riverside development and the cinema/restaurants project?  I  know where I would put my money and it wouldn't be the parkway.

The deal seems straight forward to me. We will give you a big parcel of land at a competitive price with planning in place to build a substantial number of houses, with the proviso that you also build a football stadium, and lease it for a peppercorn rent for the next hundred years to GTFC.

Quoted from realist

I think the council are patiently waiting for a planning application. There is nothing else they can do until fenty gets his act together.
I  am sure the uncertainty of brexit isn't helping, along with the two town centre developments. Who would gamble on buying in to the stadium project when there could be the potentially massive riverside development and the cinema/restaurants project?  I  know where I would put my money and it wouldn't be the parkway.

Could be a new username:

getyouracttogether.

Quoted from realist

I think the council are patiently waiting for a planning application. There is nothing else they can do until fenty gets his act together.
I  am sure the uncertainty of brexit isn't helping, along with the two town centre developments. Who would gamble on buying in to the stadium project when there could be the potentially massive riverside development and the cinema/restaurants project?  I  know where I would put my money and it wouldn't be the parkway.

Perhaps all Town fans should be demanding another referendum.

Quoted from realist

I think the council are patiently waiting for a planning application. There is nothing else they can do until fenty gets his act together. Agree, we were told a legal agreement between Extreme, the club and the council would take two to three months and that was in March

I  am sure the uncertainty of brexit isn't helping, I doubt it makes much difference, UK has the highest inward investment of any European country, even after the vote. Uncertainty for manufacturing yes, but the retail and service sectors are holding up well

along with the two town centre developments. Who would gamble on buying in to the stadium project when there could be the potentially massive riverside development and the cinema/restaurants project? I wouldn't put any money into a central Grimsby riverside development, look what happened last time and I don't think there's anyone left who enjoys travelling into central Grimsby for anything nowadays. Any attempt of gentrification in the past has not worked due to inherent social problems on the marshes

I  know where I would put my money and it wouldn't be the parkway. My money would go into building and selling housing in the suburbs rather than restaurant rentals, much safer

Something seems to be slowing the process down and for once it doesn't seem to be the council..

A new stadium is essential for our long-term future.

Frequent updates are needed to keep people on board.   Even if there is no progress to report since the last communication, there should still be a report saying "no further progress at this time etc".  Some honesty would go a long way.

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

A new stadium is essential for our long-term future.

Frequent updates are needed to keep people on board.   Even if there is no progress to report since the last communication, there should still be a report saying "no further progress at this time etc".  Some honesty would go a long way.

And stops us making up our own stories to fill the void.

Not wishing to appear like I am aligning with Bigdog (god forbid😉) but I think that this is a good example of where the club need to keep the support engaged and informed, let's face it come the time they will be keen enough to get us in the thing so generating some interest by open and transparent comms would not hurt.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Not wishing to appear like I am aligning with Bigdog (god forbid😉) but I think that this is a good example of where the club need to keep the support engaged and informed, let's face it come the time they will be keen enough to get us in the thing so generating some interest by open and transparent comms would not hurt.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Not wishing to appear like I am aligning with Bigdog (god forbid😉) but I think that this is a good example of where the club need to keep the support engaged and informed, let's face it come the time they will be keen enough to get us in the thing so generating some interest by open and transparent comms would not hurt.

Totally agree and some have taken my points wrongly. I'm all for a new stadium as it is the only way the club goes forward in the future but, and it's a big but, you've got to try and fill it with a better standard of football.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Totally agree and some have taken my points wrongly. I'm all for a new stadium as it is the only way the club goes forward in the future but, and it's a big but, you've got to try and fill it with a better standard of football.

They don't. The club will attempt to fill the stadium with any brand of football, it doesn't matter how good it is. Arguably you could say that a better standard of football would bring extra revenue but if it doesn't produce wins then people still wont go. At the end of the day it's a results business and if the club starts performing well and keeps winning, attendances will increase no matter how poor the football is. People like to see winning teams, not teams that lose.

Instead of the negative spin how about a positive one.
A new ground generates income and gets the financial millstone of BP off the back of GTFC.
The money freed up enables us to build a squad that can take the club forward. If a new ground is self sustaining then the crowd size isn’t the be all and end all.
We have been moaning for years about needing a new ground. Now there is a chance we may be getting one people are moaning again.
It’s not a ‘Grimsby’ thing, it’s not a ‘Fishy’ thing, it’s a football supporters thing. Although, given the time frame we are understandably weary!!
Whatever the design of the new Stadium I just hope it can generate some atmosphere. But that’s mainly up to us. UTM

Regarding  atmosphere  we will only get that either at the park or the new stadium if the team gives the fans something to cheer about,

The only other way is to invite all the usual away fans to the ground 3or 4 hours before KO and supply them with cheap beer.

Quoted from Civvy at last

Instead of the negative spin how about a positive one.
A new ground generates income and gets the financial millstone of BP off the back of GTFC.
The money freed up enables us to build a squad that can take the club forward. If a new ground is self sustaining then the crowd size isn’t the be all and end all.
We have been moaning for years about needing a new ground. Now there is a chance we may be getting one people are moaning again.
It’s not a ‘Grimsby’ thing, it’s not a ‘Fishy’ thing, it’s a football supporters thing. Although, given the time frame we are understandably weary!!
Whatever the design of the new Stadium I just hope it can generate some atmosphere. But that’s mainly up to us. UTM

Can't disagree with any of the above.

BP has been holding us back for years. Something was lost when the Barrett Stand was knocked down and the open corners were no longer used. Although it was necessary it felt like the new configuration of the ground coupled with all seating alienated a lot of fans. Let's face it, compared to the majority of stadiums in the country, BP is not a nice place to watch football. If the new stadium can offer modern facilities that Town fans, old, new and lost can be proud of, I don't think an 8k average attendance for home fans will be out of the way unless the team is playing pants and getting beat every week. The impact of a new stadium should not be underestimated..

The only question is.. the council gave us the green light to put planning permission in.. seven months later, is the club really in a position to do it? Were we fully prepared for it? Without any evidence to the contrary, I just sense a loss of momentum at the minute..

I'm working on the theory that no news is good news. The planning process can be extremely long, especially on a scheme of this size. Unless i hear otherwise, i will assume it's still going ahead.

10k stadium is realistically all that is required for now. Just make the away section in a side stand, not directly behind the goal

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

10k stadium is realistically all that is required for now. Just make the away section in a side stand, not directly behind the goal

The problem with that Woz is if we have a bit of success and move up the leagues it will not be big enough,

14,000 is about right imo and it will not need to be extended unless we reach the Prem.

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

10k stadium is realistically all that is required for now. Just make the away section in a side stand, not directly behind the goal

Not really thought down to that level of detail, but I think this is a good idea for atmosphere

Quoted from grimsby pete

The problem with that Woz is if we have a bit of success and move up the leagues it will not be big enough,

14,000 is about right imo and it will not need to be extended unless we reach the Prem.

Pete, do you really think 14k would be needed week in week out even if we were in the higher reaches of League 1?
Would we have 14k if we were in the Championship these days?

Quoted from grimsby pete

The problem with that Woz is if we have a bit of success and move up the leagues it will not be big enough,

14,000 is about right imo and it will not need to be extended unless we reach the Prem.

I think that's realistic mate. Maybe with success, if there are open corners, then this can be added to (like stoke are doing/have done)

Away crowds still aren't massive at this level, so space for 1000/1500 should be ample.

I have a feeling the club are purposely keeping everything low key at this stage. Yes it would be good to have regular updates on how the project is progressing. But the least the NIMBYs know at this stage the better. Out of sight and out of mind. Gently does it and the boat wont get rocked. Lessons will have been learnt over the last 27 years of trying to overcome Grimsby NIMBYs  

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

I think that's realistic mate. Maybe with success, if there are open corners, then this can be added to (like stoke are doing/have done)

Away crowds still aren't massive at this level, so space for 1000/1500 should be ample.

There won't be open corners by the looks of it, what a lot are doing now are putting in substantial footings foundations call it what you want so they can up the capacity by building an upper tier if needed.

Quoted from heppy88

I have a feeling the club are purposely keeping everything low key at this stage. Yes it would be good to have regular updates on how the project is progressing. But the least the NIMBYs know at this stage the better. Out of sight and out of mind. Gently does it and the boat wont get rocked. Lessons will have been learnt over the last 27 years of trying to overcome Grimsby NIMBYs  

Do you really think that? Do you really think that hearing nothing will stop the NIMBYs when the application finally goes in (if it ever does)?

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Do you really think that? Do you really think that hearing nothing will stop the NIMBYs when the application finally goes in (if it ever does)?

No it won't. But, the club will want to get as far as it can before facing the inevitable backlash. Drip feeding bits of information only fuels the fire of opposition. Only release information when there are solid facts to release.

Quoted from heppy88

No it won't. But, the club will want to get as far as it can before facing the inevitable backlash. Drip feeding bits of information only fuels the fire of opposition. Only release information when there are solid facts to release.

But surely drip feeding info would also give fuel to those who are supportive of the proposal?

I'd love us to have a new stadium and a team worthy of gracing it. However, the current information vacuum only adds fuel to the cynical view that it won't happen. Tell us something GYFR, even if it's just that discussions are ongoing and there are some minor details to be finalised.

Quoted from Cloudy

But surely drip feeding info would also give fuel to those who are supportive of the proposal?

But surely, by definition , those that support the proposal don't need anymore convincing that the new stadium in that location is the right path to follow.

I think people just need to be patient. That fact there is no news is pretty obviously because there is no more news to give. I understand the need to give updates, but it is completely pointless them givong us updates of no news.

Quoted from rancido

But surely, by definition , those that support the proposal don't need anymore convincing that the new stadium in that location is the right path to follow.

What about the doubters and the waiverers? The cynical. The non-believers. Or the people who couldn't I've a stuff about the football but care about their town? It'd be better to get as many people on board and supportive than have them disengaged and even mildly antagonistic.

If you're trying to convince councillors and investors there's really a demand then keeping quiet is really not helpful.

Quoted from Mariner93er

I think people just need to be patient. That fact there is no news is pretty obviously because there is no more news to give. I understand the need to give updates, but it is completely pointless them givong us updates of no news.

I'd like to think I'm being patient, I mean it was only announced in 1995.

Quoted from Mariner93er

I think people just need to be patient. That fact there is no news is pretty obviously because there is no more news to give. I understand the need to give updates, but it is completely pointless them givong us updates of no news.

It's sort of not the point that is being made. In spring there was the message from the club that they'd like to be in the new stadium within three years, yet here we are 20% through that timeframe without a murmur and a previous post on this thread now claiming from an ITK that 2025 is a more realistic date. Be nice to know if everything is on schedule at the very least. Something just doesn't feel right at the moment after all the fanfare at the beginning of the year..

I'd say that 3 year timeline is completely blown now, I reckon design and build is a minimum 2 and a half years for this and we haven't even got the land yet. There must be some problem not to have reached a legal agreement in 6 months given that both the club and the council agree on the reference site.

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

I'd say that 3 year timeline is completely blown now, I reckon design and build is a minimum 2 and a half years for this and we haven't even got the land yet. There must be some problem not to have reached a legal agreement in 6 months given that both the club and the council agree on the reference site.

Newts?

Newts, bats, nesting birds etc. these sorts of problems that could come up when the site surveys are completed, we haven't even got to that point yet.

I wonder if news will be forthcoming at the approaching AGM?

Accounts will be out very soon with the AGM just 5 weeks away

Out of interest are minutes of board meeting made public ?

Quoted from crusty ole pie

Out of interest are minutes of board meeting made public ?

Board meeting or AGM?

Shareholders should get minutes of board meetings, the AGM is normally made available on Freeview.

As a shareholder I don't get minutes of gtfc board meetings
I do get an invite to the Agm

Re the development I am no expert but I do know that even with a fair wind these things take time and have many barriers to progress
The fact that as a club we have been looking to move since 1990 is irrelevant. The plan on the radar right now could still be on track for all we know.

We should leave the development to the professionals
We should leave the management of the team to the professionals

Social media seems to be throwing up idiots like Donald trump so don't rely on social media to run gtfc or we will all be losers

Quoted from IlkleyMariner

As a shareholder I don't get minutes of gtfc board meetings
I do get an invite to the Agm

Re the development I am no expert but I do know that even with a fair wind these things take time and have many barriers to progress
The fact that as a club we have been looking to move since 1990 is irrelevant. The plan on the radar right now could still be on track for all we know.

We should leave the development to the professionals
We should leave the management of the team to the professionals

Social media seems to be throwing up idiots like Donald trump so don't rely on social media to run gtfc or we will all be losers

Cheers, so minutes taken at board meetings are never made public ?

Quoted from crusty ole pie

Cheers, so minutes taken at board meetings are never made public ?

Correct

Quoted from Cloudy

Quoted from crusty ole pie

Cheers, so minutes taken at board meetings are never made public ?

Correct

Unless invited for a one to one with the caveat that you won't divulge what was said  

Quoted from Marinerz93

Correct

Unless invited for a one to one with the caveat that you won't divulge what was said  [/quote]

Maybe JF should offer 'Intimate One 2 Ones' as a fundraising initiative???

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Unless invited for a one to one with the caveat that you won't divulge what was said  
Maybe JF should offer 'Intimate One 2 Ones' as a fundraising initiative???

Just like the Mighty Mariner initiative that has belly flopped  

Quoted from IlkleyMariner

As a shareholder I don't get minutes of gtfc board meetings
I do get an invite to the Agm

Re the development I am no expert but I do know that even with a fair wind these things take time and have many barriers to progress
The fact that as a club we have been looking to move since 1990 is irrelevant. The plan on the radar right now could still be on track for all we know.

We should leave the development to the professionals
We should leave the management of the team to the professionals

Social media seems to be throwing up idiots like Donald trump so don't rely on social media to run gtfc or we will all be losers

and don't forget to doff your cap and/or tug your forelock.

Quoted from IlkleyMariner

As a shareholder I don't get minutes of gtfc board meetings
I do get an invite to the Agm

Re the development I am no expert but I do know that even with a fair wind these things take time and have many barriers to progress
The fact that as a club we have been looking to move since 1990 is irrelevant. The plan on the radar right now could still be on track for all we know.

We should leave the development to the professionals
We should leave the management of the team to the professionals

Social media seems to be throwing up idiots like Donald trump so don't rely on social media to run gtfc or we will all be losers

I don't disagree but is the development being managed by professionals? Extreme have to my knowledge never done anything like this neither has anyone on the board despite JF having previous interests in building & construction. A project like this needs experience and expertise so we can develop a new ground as well as the playing squad and we don't get caught out like Coventry & Darlington.

The plan maybe on track but for when? 3 year's time or 2025? We may not all be shareholders but as paying supporters we are stake holders a fact that GTFC are beginning to over look more often since our return to league football.

Regular updates from the club would minimise the amount of social media speculation

Regarding the number of seats required,

A good idea might be to have 10,000 installed to start with,

Start installing them in row 4 or 5 and leave a few rows out in the corners

The extra 4,000 can be added later when or if required .

Then no extra building work will be needed.