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Gaffer58
October 6, 2017, 9:30pm
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Just suppose Rupert Murdoch had developed Sky in France instead of here, the French premier league would now be awash with money, buying all the available talent. How many current British players would be over there and would the England team be better without all the foreigners over here?
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October 6, 2017, 9:35pm

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You might want to look up the ownership of PSG and Monaco.
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Vance Warner
October 6, 2017, 9:38pm
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Before the PL all the top players were going to Italy including some British players. The national team was better for it
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October 6, 2017, 11:01pm
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Quoted from Vance Warner
Before the PL all the top players were going to Italy including some British players. The national team was better for it


Two is some. Luther Blisset. Errrrrrm Ian 'It's like a foreign country over there' Rush.


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Two is some. Luther Blisset. Errrrrrm Ian 'It's like a foreign country over there' Rush.


Beckham,bliss et, platt, Micah Richards, Des walker, Ashley Cole, Trevor Francis, ride out, gazza,Paul ince and more proves you wrong.
A massive problem with the prem is that it gets great and average foreign players, but the home grown lads are so well paid that there is no need for them to move abroad and broaden their education. They stick on loans to lower English leagues and reserve team football on their massive wages, whereas it would be far better for us and them to be playing regularly in France, Germany, Holland, Belgium Spain and Italy etc
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Agree with your last point but there weren't many Brits playing abroad. That lot you listed were spread over years from the 80s to the noughties. A mere trickle.


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October 7, 2017, 7:19am
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Germany seems to have got it right bigger crowds as well.
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October 7, 2017, 7:21am
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The problem, IMHO, isn't foreign players/managers/coaches etc or playing fields/grass roots, the issue is far more widespread it is primarily one of attitude prevelant in society as a whole.

Kids are spoilt, adults are pampered by modern day society, we have soooooo much we don't need whether it be food, choice, or material things. There isn't the real desire simply because there doesn't need to be!

We have all contributed to creating this monster and football is no different
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October 7, 2017, 8:57am
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The problem, IMHO, isn't foreign players/managers/coaches etc or playing fields/grass roots, the issue is far more widespread it is primarily one of attitude prevelant in society as a whole.

Kids are spoilt, adults are pampered by modern day society, we have soooooo much we don't need whether it be food, choice, or material things. There isn't the real desire simply because there doesn't need to be!

We have all contributed to creating this monster and football is no different


speak for yourself, there are still plenty of people in Britain who dont.  Potential future England players could be playing football in Grant Thorold Park this morning , dribbling a flat football around dog shite or kicking a tennis ball around a garage block or down an eight foot....they dont get the opportunity as their parents dont have the £3 or the will/effort to take them to a junior set up.  


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October 7, 2017, 9:18am
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These arguments are all fair and well but our Under 20swon the WC this year and the U21s got to the semis of the Euros. The first team are shite, but there's clearly talent coming through.
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