England vs Slovenia

Watched two minutes, Henderson falls over and cries like a baby, gets up straight away once the whistle is blown.
F*** the Premier League, and F*** international football, the game is dying in front of our eyes.

Watching England is not an enjoyable experience.

The manner in which we play is pedestrian and, as some have already pointed out, totally predictable.

Take this in the way it's intended, but I find it slightly annoying that we win while playing in this way because it's likely to validate Southgate's thinking and approach for future matches.

He'll say that what he's doing is working. In a black and white world then yes, it's working. We've qualified for Russia.

But what it's failing to do is prove that we won't succumb to another Iceland-style performance, or play out a dour 0-0 draw against Costa Rica.

It's clear to me that even in the victories we've been getting we have huge flaws that will be exposed against even mediocre opposition at a major tournament.

We'll play a few meaningless friendlies between now and next summer, play players who can't even get into their club side on a regular basis, sweat over a key player like Kane breaking that bone in the foot that all of England's best players tend to break just before a major tournament, and then limp home following some sluggish performances with the FA making more promises, and people like Shaun Harvey making ever more ridiculous decisions that don't just damage the future of this England team but damage the foundation on which it's build with thoroughly stupid initiatives like the Checkashit Trophy.

*Draws breath*

Ah England, you frustrate me more than Town!

Quoted from TAGG

It is.
The football DNA report.

This leaves no room for coaching an adventures expansive game.
England top of there league with 18 goals.
Germany, Spain Italy all top of there leagues scoring well over 30 goals.
England should have scored 20 against the bottom two teams in our league.
All that matters with the DNA balderdash is ball retention and pass completion.

And we're even excrement at that

Well, that was a 96 minute Borefest, bring on some real football, roll on Saturday, Vale v Town, it surely can't be any worse to watch than that rubbish.

Things seemed to get a little bit better after Oxlade-Chamberlain went off. I think I heard his replacement hasn't even played a first-team game this season (but it may have been started...so sub appearances).

Our reaction to them bringing on a Striker seemed a little Hurstesque.

Reminded me of Town, rubbish defending, no midfield and no  ideas up front only difference they are all millionaires and we are the pound land equivalent.

For all the "school of excellence" these players have been brought through it does not show, you have got to WANT to win at football no hunger there and to much showboating.

Slovenia apart from the goal had more than enough chances to win and opened up our defence with ease.

A better side would have converted at least three of those chances.

Southgate said we are a side still learning sound familiar?

I need to brush up on my paper aeroplanes.

Anybody else think Qatar is a disaster waiting to happen on and off he field?

Glenda made a telling point in the first half (possibly for the first time ever?) when he pointed out that the problem was a complete lack of movement from the players. Less a case of pass and move, more pass and stand still to admire your pass.

Of course, the other main problem was that Sterling and Oxlade-Chamberlain were so poor that they might as well have not been playing. Quite why Sterling thinks he's got the ability to play centrally, I don't know. You can see why Guardiola doesn't play him there, that's for sure.

Quoted from Maringer

Glenda made a telling point in the first half (possibly for the first time ever?) when he pointed out that the problem was a complete lack of movement from the players. Less a case of pass and move, more pass and stand still to admire your pass.

Of course, the other main problem was that Sterling and Oxlade-Chamberlain were so poor that they might as well have not been playing. Quite why Sterling thinks he's got the ability to play centrally, I don't know. You can see why Guardiola doesn't play him there, that's for sure.

This is the same as how I see it, whatever happened to pass and move?  Against lesser teams, it might work but when we come up against the major players we are soo easy to close down and we crumble under any pressure from opposing players.

The only entertaining thing about an England game is the inevitable  post match rant by mark saggers on talksport

Nah, couldn't be bothered with that one. Instead, went to see a re-run of Benedict Cumberbatch's performance of Hamlet shown at our local cinema. I suspect he expended more energy in that role than the entire England team in theirs! Whilst England almost always disappoint, Shakespeare never does....