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 Which options are the best way forward?
The Trust to put a marketing strategy forward to attract new benefactors to replace JF
The Trust to work with JF to attract new substantial investment and play a greater role
JF to attract substantial new investment and relinquish his complete control
I am worried about the unknown, so I’d rather just stick with JF even though things aren’t great
JF is doing a great job and I have complete faith in his ability to take the club forward
Not interested, only concerned about what happens on the pitch
I just want Fenty out, to hell with the consequences
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That has been the case for years.  I mean that we are living within our means.  

I wonder if JF wishes he'd spent his cash on something that didn't involve him getting slagged off every five minutes rather than being appreciated for bailing out the club he loves.

I almost want him to sell the club to someone who changes our strip to green, renames the team Grimsby Mariners, sells off the ground and leaves the club on its knees in the 7th tier.  Then maybe people will be less naive.


In hindsight I think I wish he had spent his cash on something else!

Administration was not the complete disaster it may be for GTFC today. Every club survived and many prospered.

I appreciate that may be a strange view to many but I honestly believe we would have been in better shape had we done so. In reality nobody knows
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why should JF drop his debt?  Would you?  If you have a mortgage, try asking the bank to let you off your debt.


In terms of publicity over the years the amount of money invested is relatively small to the amount of kudos he receives, the free advertising for the businesses he owns or is involved in, and his standing as a local councillor - it always helps having a well known name.

I think were you to do some kind of correlation between what you would need to spend physically over the term John's spent in his chair / non chair role at Grimsby, and what he's actually put into the club he's done very well out of it indeed - especially if the vast majority of the investment is in loans. In which case he's done exceedingly well. Said it before, and will say it again, ask John to drop any ownership he has of the loans as a long standing Town fan and attract new investment on the back of it.


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In terms of publicity over the years the amount of money invested is relatively small to the amount of kudos he receives, the free advertising for the businesses he owns or is involved in, and his standing as a local councillor - it always helps having a well known name.

I think were you to do some kind of correlation between what you would need to spend physically over the term John's spent in his chair / non chair role at Grimsby, and what he's actually put into the club he's done very well out of it indeed - especially if the vast majority of the investment is in loans. In which case he's done exceedingly well. Said it before, and will say it again, ask John to drop any ownership he has of the loans as a long standing Town fan and attract new investment on the back of it.


Exactly. Who had heard of John Fenty before he became involved with the Mariners? That sort of profile is a godsend when you are hoping to further your standing in the local community. He has had all the trappings of being top dog, as well as the worries. He was the one to put the money up and fair enough to him for that but something will have to give soon.

We need to go forward as a club and start to realise our potential. New investment, new stadium or both. There must be some actual news on the stadium very soon, which I hope will be the catalyst for change, otherwise the fans will start to get despondent and become more vocal.
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Exactly. Who had heard of John Fenty before he became involved with the Mariners? That sort of profile is a godsend when you are hoping to further your standing in the local community. He has had all the trappings of being top dog, as well as the worries. He was the one to put the money up and fair enough to him for that but something will have to give soon.

We need to go forward as a club and start to realise our potential. New investment, new stadium or both. There must be some actual news on the stadium very soon, which I hope will be the catalyst for change, otherwise the fans will start to get despondent and become more vocal.


Or even worse Lew's Lover, not be bothered and just stop going to games. It's started happening already.. Who would have thought six months ago that we wouldn't sell out Mansfield away this season?
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Or even worse Lew, not be bothered and just stop going to games. It's started happening already.. Who would have thought six months ago that we wouldn't sell out Mansfield away this season?


Fair point. I am not Lew by the way - I am his lover   Only metaphorically of course!
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That has been the case for years.  I mean that we are living within our means.  

I wonder if JF wishes he'd spent his cash on something that didn't involve him getting slagged off every five minutes rather than being appreciated for bailing out the club he loves.

I almost want him to sell the club to someone who changes our strip to green, renames the team Grimsby Mariners, sells off the ground and leaves the club on its knees in the 7th tier.  Then maybe people will be less naive.


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Quoted from LondonMariner43


That has been the case for years.  I mean that we are living within our means.  

I wonder if JF wishes he'd spent his cash on something that didn't involve him getting slagged off every five minutes rather than being appreciated for bailing out the club he loves.

I almost want him to sell the club to someone who changes our strip to green, renames the team Grimsby Mariners, sells off the ground and leaves the club on its knees in the 7th tier.  Then maybe people will be less naive.


The naive thing to do was to burden the club with debt. Or maybe his obsession with wanting to look like the knight in shining armour overrode the proper business decision which would have been administration. I know hindsight is a superpower but many football club chairmen had the foresight to take that option.
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Oh my god no. The trust is partly responsible for the position the club is in now. If thet hadn't gifted Fenty the shares they would have had a lot more leverage in deciding who runs the club. At best they are a bunch of enthusiastic amatuers. Stick to running the bars.


Agree with the first part but not the second. At least lessons could have been learned.


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Quoted from LondonMariner43


That has been the case for years.  I mean that we are living within our means.  

I wonder if JF wishes he'd spent his cash on something that didn't involve him getting slagged off every five minutes rather than being appreciated for bailing out the club he loves.

I almost want him to sell the club to someone who changes our strip to green, renames the team Grimsby Mariners, sells off the ground and leaves the club on its knees in the 7th tier.  Then maybe people will be less naive.


Or you could see it as lending the club money to bail it out from losses made during his stewardship (ITV Digital part excepted).


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