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Another point worth mentioning his CHAIRMAN stood by him.
That won't get many ticks on here but he gave Hurst a long run and in the end it worked.
I will give it a tick. It was one of Fenty's best moments for me, not reacting to some fans making knee-jerk emotionally driven reactions (me included) and recognising that a stable playing vision and giving a manger time to put that into practice is the surest way to get us back in the league. It is why the more recent drastic changes irritate me, I thought we had learned that lesson.
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You could argue that the 'most recent drastic changes' were forced upon us; Hurst chose to leave for L1, and it all happened very quickly, and Bignot's sacking needed to be done before the mess got worse.
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Caesar |
September 16, 2017, 11:28am |
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You could, but at the risk of taking this a long way away from the topic though I think it is possibly a stretch to say that they were forced upon him. What seems to be the case is we didn't do enough to keep Hurst/he wanted more investment in training facilities, and there was doubt about Bignot's "project" but considering his last game was a 3-0 victory over a team promoted (yes I know all the other results btw!) making us mathematically safe with plenty of time to spare to say it was needed before a mess got worse is a stretch. Besides it is not just at management level we have lost any sense of stability.
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chaos33 |
September 16, 2017, 11:48am |
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You could, but at the risk of taking this a long way away from the topic though I think it is possibly a stretch to say that they were forced upon him. What seems to be the case is we didn't do enough to keep Hurst/he wanted more investment in training facilities, and there was doubt about Bignot's "project" but considering his last game was a 3-0 victory over a team promoted (yes I know all the other results btw!) making us mathematically safe with plenty of time to spare to say it was needed before a mess got worse is a stretch. Besides it is not just at management level we have lost any sense of stability.
Can't really agree with any of that. Town would have found it hard to retain Hurst whatever the investment in infrastructure once a L1 opportunity came calling. As far as your Bignot view is concerned, your position seems to be predicated on the basis that the only thing that matters in terms of management is the odd good result, and keeping us safe. If you didn't notice the mess around him, half the terrible results/performances/tactical shambles, and haven't heard the insights people have reported , ie, off the field confusion and concern, you must have had your eyes and ears shut.
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grimsby pete |
September 16, 2017, 12:05pm |
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Another point worth mentioning his CHAIRMAN stood by him. .
Yes and he still had a go at him when he joined Shrewsbury so much for loyalty.
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Sadly no loyalty in football anymore Pete.
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September 16, 2017, 1:55pm |
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I read your posts hence my challenge around your constant criticism without offending credible realistic alternatives.
Wanting better is fine and all fans/supporters should feel likewise, I do. However constantly sniping at people that have put their own personal time, money and career into GTFC is hardly aspirational
Kiss and make up and call it a draw?
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Kiss and make up and call it a draw?
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September 16, 2017, 6:18pm |
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5 points clear after todays win,
Why couldn't Town start a season like that while Hurst was here.?
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September 17, 2017, 7:42am |
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Can't really agree with any of that. Town would have found it hard to retain Hurst whatever the investment in infrastructure once a L1 opportunity came calling. As far as your Bignot view is concerned, your position seems to be predicated on the basis that the only thing that matters in terms of management is the odd good result, and keeping us safe. If you didn't notice the mess around him, half the terrible results/performances/tactical shambles, and haven't heard the insights people have reported , ie, off the field confusion and concern, you must have had your eyes and ears shut.
I am not sure that Shrewsbury was the most attractive League 1 job as when he went they looked in deep trouble, you could maybe argue it made it a free swing, but I certainly think consensus at the time was it was an odd choice and not default the best option for him, but understand the point that it was pretty much out of our control, I just think we were not completely helpless in that situation. And my position on Bignot is not that the odd good result matters, I was just making the point we were not in a real mess in the urgent needs replacing or relegation beckons sense. I feel given the freedom he was in January, sacking him so shortly after is odd at best and creates further instability and turnover of players.
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