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I think the biggest issues are not about Slade, Bignot Hurst or whoever but the fact one man has held the reigns for so long and it's just coincidence that this has coincided with the worst run of  results/performances in our long history

Quoted from HertsGTFC

As much as I agree that GTFC is John Fenty's self constructed "North Korea" and that he has build it on dodgy leverage with this benign loan bit and lacks imagination and professionalism on a regular basis I am not sure anyone one here can prove that the start to the season is down to him.

- We don't know what the budget is/was even when "reliable source" tells many of us in a pub apparently

- We don't know who RS tried to bring in and why they may have turned us down

- We know the length of the current players deals but not their salaries

- We don't know how much Russ has to play with for the rest of the season.

What I do know is that for whatever reason the side have not gelled which could be down to the manager as well as the suspensions, injuries and playing teams that have done better than us on the day.

Maybe just maybe the players need to take some of the blame for where we are?
  

I think the problem is far greater and more far reaching than yet another potential season of disappointment and soul searching by some of the most loyal and passionate fans in the country.

Let's look at JF's tenure at face value. He's been in charge so he's culpable.

Championship, three relegations to non-league, years in the abyss, a lucky stumble out of non-league even with the backing of OP money and now mind numbing chaos and the threat of our club returning to non league for a second time.

In all that time, what percentage of time have we been excited or entertained properly? We all remained together due to the indignation of our club being non league. Driven on by the embarrassment and hope of one day we could proudly say we're the fan of a league club again. It held us together even though we didn't deserve to go through it all.

The issue at hand is bigger than whether we get three points on Saturday, whether RS is in charge or not, it's so much bigger.

Never has so little cash injection being put into a club to gain someone so much time in charge and call ALL the shots. There are questions to be asked about the future plans for our club. We cannot have one man control our club for half of our lifetimes for £2-3m. It;s not enough for a league club that wants to progress.

I'm sick of how this club is run, I'm sick of the lack of entertainment, I'm sick of how our fans are treated and I'm sick of the feeling of hopelessness.

I'll challenge Getyourfactsright to a one on one thread, all he has to do is name the time, to get to the bottom of everything. If someone else fancies doing it I'll step aside or have a vote to see who participates.

Something has to change or else there's lifelong fans like me who will also be considering just having to walk away and save themselves a lot of pain and grief. We cannot go on as a club season after season the way we are. It's got to stop and stop sometime soon for all our sakes, especially the younger fans who know nothing other than a club run by JF.

I share your pain and frustration Bigdog and commend you on an excellent post.

Quoted from Bigdog

I think the problem is far greater and far reaching than yet another potential season of disappointment and soul searching by some of the most loyal and passionate fans in the country.

Let's look at JF's tenure at face value. He's been in charge so he's culpable.

Championship, three relegations to non-league, years in the abyss, a lucky stumble out of non-league even with the backing of OP money and now mind numbing chaos and the threat of our club returning to non league for a second time.

In all that time, what percentage of time have we been excited or entertained properly? We all remained together due to the indignation of our club being non league. Driven on by the embarrassment and hope of one day we could proudly say we're the fan of a league club again. It held us together even though we didn't deserve to go through it all.

The issue at hand is bigger than whether we get three points on Saturday, whether RS is in charge or not, it's so much bigger.

Never has so little cash injection being put into a club to gain someone so much time in charge and call ALL the shots. There are questions to be asked about the future plans for our club. We cannot have one man control our club for half of our lifetimes for £2-3m. It;s not enough for a league club that wants to progress.

I'm sick of how this club is run, I'm sick of the lack of entertainment, I'm sick of how our fans are treated and I'm sick of the feeling of hopelessness.

I'll challenge Getyourfactsright to a one on one thread, all he has to do is name the time, to get to the bottom of everything. If someone else fancies doing it I'll step aside or have a vote to see who participates.

Something has to change or else there's lifelong fans like me who will also be considering just having to walk away and save themselves a lot of pain and grief. We cannot go on as a club season after season the way we are. It's got to stop and stop sometime soon for all our sakes, especially the younger fans who know nothing other than a club run by JF.

Pretty much sums it up for me.

Good post Bigdog.

Why should he put more of his own money into the club and then get slagged off? Maybe he doesn't have much more money to spare. I believe he has the clubs best interest at heart and would sell if there was a feasible buyer.

Quoted from Cloudy

I think the biggest issues are not about Slade, Bignot Hurst or whoever but the fact one man has held the reigns for so long and it's just coincidence that this has coincided with the worst run of  results/performances in our long history

I'm trying to work out why it's a coincidence? We've had all the various incidents that have caused bad press, bad PR and countless poor managerial appointments. I just think that GTFC, as a business, has been badly run for well over a decade. I feel for the younger members of our fanbase who haven't witnessed a really good Town team mixing with clubs who are now Premier League. Yes, we were batting above our average but there are many clubs in the top two divisions who we used to meet (and beat) on a regular basis not very long ago.

In my opinion, another relegation will kill Grimsby Town Football Club. Who would you blame then?

Quoted from londonmariner2

Why should he put more of his own money into the club and then get slagged off? Maybe he doesn't have much more money to spare. I believe he has the clubs best interest at heart and would sell if there was a feasible buyer.

If I had several thousands of pounds loaned to a football club, I would have my own interests at heart if I'm honest.

Totally agree Bigdog, but the inescapable conclusion I have reached is all us season ticket holders and regular attenders are enablers of Fenty.
Sorry to say it is the floating attenders who have the most influence,we are passive recipients to whatever dross and  P.R. that is dished out to us..  

Don't know what the answer is though.

Quoted from friskneymariner

Totally agree Bigdog, but the inescapable conclusion I have reached is all us season ticket holders and regular attenders are enablers of Fenty.
Sorry to say it is the floating attenders who have the most influence,we are passive recipients to whatever dross and  P.R. that is dished out to us..  

Don't know what the answer is though.

I'm not sure I appreciate being described in those terms!