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I'm a bit curious how they will do the League Cup draw tonight as I understand that the 2nd round is still seeded. If Derby had won then no doubt they would be seeded but if we'd won we wouldn't, so will Derby or Grimsby be in the seeded or unseeded pot tonight.
Now, I'm not sure if I'm imagining this or not but I think there was a similar situation a couple of years back and they actually did 2 draws as to who plays who depending on who wins the tie.
Anyone else remember something like that or have I just made that up?
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[url]https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/efl-cup-draw-2017-when-is-it-when-does-the-second-round-start-a3607991.html[/url]
Article here but it doesn't really answer your question ,except we are not in the non seeded list
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I saw on twitter yesterday that we will be among the seeded teams in the draw.
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I saw on twitter yesterday that we will be among the seeded teams in the draw.
If that's the case then that's totally wrong in my opinion. Means we can't draw a big seeded team at home if we were to beat Derby.
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No but it means we can draw Barnet, beat them and get drawn away at Anfield in the next round.
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If that's the case then that's totally wrong in my opinion.
Means we can't draw a big seeded team at home if we were to beat Derby.
Definitely seeded teamsSouthampton AFC Bournemouth West Bromwich Albion West Ham United Leicester City Stoke City Crystal Palace Swansea City Burnley Watford Hull City Middlesbrough Newcastle Brighton Reading Sheffield Wednesday Huddersfield Town Fulham Norwich City Brentford Cardiff City Aston Villa Leeds United Sunderland (if they beat Bury) Definitely unseeded teamsQPR Birmingham City Burton Albion Nottingham Forest Blackburn Rovers Wigan Athletic Rotherham United Accrington Stanley Doncaster Rovers Bristol Rovers Charlton Athletic Carlisle United Rochdale Millwall Cheltenham Town Barnet Scunthorpe United Newport County Milton Keynes Dons Bolton Wanderers Sheffield United Not yet decidedBarnsley Wolverhampton Wanderers Ipswich Town Bristol City Grimsby Town/Derby County Info taken from the GT website: http://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.....avoid-premier-303854
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No but it means we can draw Barnet, beat them and get drawn away at Anfield in the next round.
True, there is that too I suppose.
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No but it means we can draw Barnet, beat them and get drawn away at Anfield in the next round.
I've only been to Anfield the once. Didn't like it at all (and not just because we lost 5-0).
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I've only been to Anfield the once. Didn't like it at all (and not just because we lost 5-0).
More fans went to that game, than the two games at Wembley in 2015/16 promotion season. Town fans in every stand, including the Kop, never seen anything like that since. Seem to remember lots of fans never got in and went to the Everton game, I think they were playing Aldershot.
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More fans went to that game, than the two games at Wembley in 2015/16 promotion season. Town fans in every stand, including the Kop, never seen anything like that since. Seem to remember lots of fans never got in and went to the Everton game, I think were playing Aldershot.
Was that when Kenny Dogfish and Jimmy Plaice, among others, were playing.
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Seem to remember lots of fans never got in and went to the Everton game, I think were playing Aldershot.
Everton and Liverpool both at home on the same day?
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Everton and Liverpool both at home on the same day?
Yeah, you wouldn't see that these days. It was Aldershot and I think Everton won 3-0. The coaches lined up along Stanley Park were quite a sight.
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I was at the 5-0 defeat at Anfield, after the game a few of us got threatened by some Everton fans. The football special train I was on also had some windows put through on the way out of Liverpool. Others can tell a similar story............... http://forum.thefishy.co.uk/Blah.pl?m-1357043175/s-0/
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Was that when Kenny Dogfish and Jimmy Plaice, among others, were playing.
And Phil Eel..
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As we should be. Bigger than any of them tinpot, non-seeded clubs. Can't find Lincoln on the list though?
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I was at the 5-0 defeat at Anfield, after the game a few of us got threatened by some Everton fans. The football special train I was on also had some windows put through on the way out of Liverpool. Others can tell a similar story............... http://forum.thefishy.co.uk/Blah.pl?m-1357043175/s-0/
We were approached by a dozen thugs, BUT They were no match for my mrs, I felt sorry for them in the end.
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As said earlier some town were put in the Kop, my mate got stabbed and finished up in hospital. There stewards were shocked at how many we took.
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And Phil Eel..
And Terry McTurbot
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The Anfield crown that day was just short of 50,000 (I believe). If you added in the Town fans that went to watch Everton (because they could not get in the full Anfield Road end, it was one of the highest attendances since at Anfield. Even up to when they went all seater in the next few years.
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How would it be one of the biggest attendances at Anfield if they weren't at Anfield? Are you Towncryer in disguise?
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Have made this point before, but we took something like 21,000 to Anfield. It was an unticketed game so they ahd no idea how many were coming, or were just too bloody lazy to think that a 3rd Division club would bring a sizeable support with them.
We were some of the first to arrive and had to wait until about 1.15pm for just two gates to open on the Anfield Road end. I spoke to one of the police outside and he thought I was on drugs when I told him how many were coming. The whole of the Anfield Road stand, half the Kemlyn Road stand and a never before seen overflow of some 2,000 in the Kop - something those lovable Scousers took offence to, some of them with Stanleys.
I've always maintained that this turn out from Town was probably the largest ever travelling support seen at Anfield as restrictions since then, and clubs just sending out so many tickets, means away contingents are nothing like what they used to be. To put it into context we were Liverpool's fifth highest home crowd of the season with 49,000 plus fans there, only the visits of Spurs, MUFC, Leeds and Everton drew more. Liverpool played Bury in the 4th round at Anfield and 33,000 turned out to watch it, 16,000 less than our game, and that was for a local derby. We certainly knew how to travel in those days, and good to see us doing so again.
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All these stats about followings only reinforces that in my mind when the new stadium comes along and that we're hopefully in a higher league we could pull 10-12 thousand every week.
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I'm not disputing what you've written, but the notion that we took 21,000 to Anfield that night does seem a little hard to believe.
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It was an afternoon and you had to be there - i ended up in the Kop and it was an interesting experience!
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Crusty took the Kop laugh out loud if it had wheels it went seen nothing like it
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Have they started the cup draw yet ?
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A good old school Yorkshire away day if we got through, happy with that.
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Made me cringe watching that draw, Mistake after mistake lol
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What a shambles of a draw - home and away ties incorrectly announced in the South section
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Everton and Liverpool both at home on the same day?
Both drawn at home in the FA Cup. They didn't urine around with fixture times and dates in those days.
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Have made this point before, but we took something like 21,000 to Anfield. It was an unticketed game so they ahd no idea how many were coming, or were just too bloody lazy to think that a 3rd Division club would bring a sizeable support with them.
We were some of the first to arrive and had to wait until about 1.15pm for just two gates to open on the Anfield Road end. I spoke to one of the police outside and he thought I was on drugs when I told him how many were coming. The whole of the Anfield Raod stand, half the Kemlyn Road stand and a never before seen overflow of some 2,000 in the Kp - something those lovable Scousers took offence to, some of them with Stanleys.
I've always maintained that this turn out from Town was probably the largest ever travelling support seen at Anfield as restrictions sinc then, and clubs just sending out so many tickets, means away contingents are nothing like what they used to be. To put it into context we were Liverpool's fifth highets home crowd of the season with 49,000 plus fans there, only the visits of Spurs, MUFC, Leeds and Everton drew more. Liverpool played Bury in the 4th round at Anfield and 33,000 turned out to watch it, 16,000 less than our game, and that was for a local derby. We certainly knew how to travel in those days, and good to see us doing so again.
From memory (unreliable in my case, sadly) the 'official' number quoted was 15,000....but nobody knew for sure in those days. I spoke to a copper on a horse who said (verbatim) "I've never seen anything like this...even when Man Utd come". Weren't too much fun in the Kop with my GTFC colours on, though.
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Couldn't get into the packed "Town" end so we were herded by the police into the Kop. Wouldn't like to think what would have happened if we won! Once Liverpool had the game sewn up they more or less tried to "gift" us a consolation goal but I remember Tony Ford in particular making a complete hash of his "golden ticket" opportunity.
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I'm not disputing what you've written, but the notion that we took 21,000 to Anfield that night does seem a little hard to believe.
We took maybe more to Coventry in the 1972-3 FAC 3rd round tie, their highest gate of the season.
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I was in the Kop too, got thrown all over the place
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We took maybe more to Coventry in the 1972-3 FAC 3rd round tie, their highest gate of the season.
That gate was 38,000 with 12,000 from town ( official numbers ) BUT Many town fans in other stands my mam went to this one with dad and she never went to games.
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Pete, hate to disagree but if anyone can find the GET for that day it tells of every single coach in Lincolnshire being booked for that day, plus three (?) special trains and thousands in cars. It was 20,000 plus travelling from Grimsby.
Coventry had 7 gates in the First Division that year of under 20,000. We would not have been as big a draw to any Coventry fan as any one of those 7 sides, so to get from under 20,000 to 38,000 takes around the 20,000 mark, not 12,000.
Other Coventry gates that season include Arsenal 24,670 (they won the double 2 seasons prior to that so would have been very attractive opponents; Chelsea 20,295; Spurs 26,854; Leeds 24,475. We were a much bigger draw than those clubs, all of whom had been in European Finals in the previous 5 years.
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I am not saying 12,000 was the total like I said we had fans in most stands, The figure was given as 12,000 as that was the amount that stand could hold I guess, If my mam went to a match which was a first there must have been a lot
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