Danny Collins interview on the os

Excellent interview with Collins. He said that there will be no passengers in the Mariners squad this season. I agree with him totally, too many who didn't turn up on the day.

https://www.grimsby-townfc.co.uk/news/2017/august/collins---there-will-be-no-passengers/

Gives the impression he thought Bignot had them in meetings for too long.

I like this alot. I like the way he seems almost brutally honest about how it was and how it is now. I'm confident for this season, I can see us being in and around it more so than last year

I also got the impression that Bignot assembled a side full of "passengers" the more and more I think about it the more I feel JF made the right decision.

In my mind Hurst signed far more passengers than Bignot.

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In my mind Hurst signed far more passengers than Bignot.

Really? Hurst was the king of tryers

Clements, Osborne and Dyson are all passenger sort players when it isn't going for them. Hurst's signings were always solid and reliable. Berrett, Summerfield, Chambers, Comley, Vernon, Jackson etc aren't blessed with great ability but always give their all.

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Clements, Osborne and Dyson are all passenger sort players when it isn't going for them. Hurst's signings were always solid and reliable. Berrett, Summerfield, Chambers, Comley, Vernon, Jackson etc aren't blessed with great ability but always give their all.

Jackson, Tuton, Brown, Summerfield, Chambers, Boyce and arguably 3 times relegated in 3 seasons Berrett (is that a natational record) weren't passengers. We signed Vernon basically because we couldn't find anyone else he's averaged 2 goals a season for the last 3 years!

We got carried by Bogles goals while Hurst was here last season, if the budget was restricted then fair enough but otherwise recruitment was poor.

Bignot signed ones "for the future" that future was mainly based upon the past i.e. If you'd played for either him or Mickey Moore before you got signed and given the opportunity to play instantly in the first team regardless of your fitness level.

Hurst signed players for next week, Weill in the case of Kayden a Jackson he only looked good for a week at the start of the season, in fairness saying that Hurst signed passengers last season is cobblers - Henderson, Mills, Andrew, Davis, Collins, Comley amongst a couple of others prove that wrong. Possibly not the most expressive but all hard working.

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Clements, Osborne and Dyson are all passenger sort players when it isn't going for them. Hurst's signings were always solid and reliable. Berrett, Summerfield, Chambers, Comley, Vernon, Jackson etc aren't blessed with great ability but always give their all.


Jackson, Tuton, Brown, Summerfield, Chambers, Boyce and arguably 3 times relegated in 3 seasons Berrett (is that a natational record) weren't passengers. We signed Vernon basically because we couldn't find anyone else he's averaged 2 goals a season for the last 3 years!

We got carried by Bogles goals while Hurst was here last season, if the budget was restricted then fair enough but otherwise recruitment was poor.

We also got carried away by sitting on a L2 play off place "while Hurst was here" too last season.

I can't remember a manager since  John Newman who didn't sign a passenger or two.

I agree Herts every manager signs some passengers but I honestly don't see how MB' s signings were passengers, Maxwell and possibly Yussuf apart.

Osborne, Jones and Clements contributed considerably to the second half of the season.

Gunning lacked in many areas but a passenger, hardly he always tried but was never quite upto it. Asante has been plagued by injuries so it's not fair to judge (same with McAllister).

Dyson or Jackson and Tuton? Hurst made some great signings during his five years but last season I think was probably his worst for recruitment (although Mills, Andrew and Collins a were gems).

I have a fear that all MB's signings could fail, Asante I would doubt we'll see make a consistent contribution Clements can see and play a pass but clearly cannot handle a pre season. Osborne all being well will recover as he has talent and Jones has looked off it against half decent opponents pre season.

Who knows pointless looking back on the eve of a new season

UTM!

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I have a fear that all MB's signings could fail, Asante I would doubt we'll see make a consistent contribution Clements can see and play a pass but clearly cannot handle a pre season. Osborne all being well will recover as he has talent and Jones has looked off it against half decent opponents pre season.

Who knows pointless looking back on the eve of a new season

UTM!

Mate, It's been well documented that Clem has been away on compassionate leave. Think, or do a little bit of research eh..

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Clements, Osborne and Dyson are all passenger sort players when it isn't going for them. Hurst's signings were always solid and reliable. Berrett, Summerfield, Chambers, Comley, Vernon, Jackson etc aren't blessed with great ability but always give their all.

Sorry M09, you clearly didn't go to Donny away. Berrett not only didn't give his all that day, he was pretty much a disgrace to his profession.

We all have off days though 😊

UTFM

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I have a fear that all MB's signings could fail, Asante I would doubt we'll see make a consistent contribution Clements can see and play a pass but clearly cannot handle a pre season. Osborne all being well will recover as he has talent and Jones has looked off it against half decent opponents pre season.

Who knows pointless looking back on the eve of a new season

UTM!

Give the lads a chance. Jesus Christ.
Osbourne looked class at times last season, don't forget he made he step up from part time to full time mid season and stepped up a league as well.
Gutted that he will miss 4 months of the season!

Jones also looked very good at times last season, hopefully with a full pre season he'll start the season well.

Jones scored 7 in 16 in his first FL (half) season and he might fail because he looked a bit "off it" in 2 meaningless games against league 1 teams?!

I really like Jamey Osborne, I think he's very talented and could have a good career, HOWEVER I can't help but feel he is seen as one of the 'passengers'.
Collins mentioned the Barnet and Cheltenham games where he felt they was carrying too many players. In both these games Osborne was subbed by RS at half time and we improved 2nd half. Throughout pre season, Osborne has been selected mainly in the 2nd teams with the likes of bolorinwa, summerfield, Boyce and yussuf. I don't believe RS sees him as a key player or likely to unless he works a little harder. I personally see a few similarities between Vose and Osborne. Both talented, a joy to watch at times but when the going gets tough, these two tend to disappear. I'm
Hopeful that when he comes back, he's learnt a few lessons, understands RS values and shows that little more desire on work ethic on the pitch and if he does. Then he really could fulfill that potential and be one hell of a player

Perhaps if Bignot had been given a bit longer, he may have proven himself to be a good manager here. History seems to be painting him as some sort of clueless buffoon among some fans, when i think he had something about him. Signed some good players in my view, as did Hurst, but i think the argument is that Hurst signed more passengers. To be fair he did have longer here to sign more passengers. He signed some truly awful forwards in his time, a long list of them in fact.

I think Mariner 09 is Hurst's son.  

I think it's hard to tell about last seasons squad as they started to gel and Hurst left Bignot came in changed lots of things and moved on the Slade had his own ideas about the players both predecessors signed, a season of stability would be interesting

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Clements, Osborne and Dyson are all passenger sort players when it isn't going for them. Hurst's signings were always solid and reliable. Berrett, Summerfield, Chambers, Comley, Vernon, Jackson etc aren't blessed with great ability but always give their all.

flipping hell, I'd hate you to be my boss. Slave driver. Those lads were not passengers.

I don't think any manager goes out with the intention of signing "passengers" but I do think that RS has probably placed a greater premium on fitness and tactical discipline.  He's managed higher up the pyramid and in tough club situations, so has a definite idea of how he wants to approach each game.

Collins, similarly, well let's look at who his managers have been throughout his career:  Warnock, Pulis, Roy Keane, O'Driscoll, Allardyce.  All of them taskmasters and organisers.  I think it's reasonable to think that DC is on the same wavelength as RS and will be Slade's representative on Earth out on the pitch during games as captain.