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MuddyWaters
July 28, 2017, 2:52pm
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As a long standing TRUST member I've just sent in my suggestion for the future. Hope I'm not a lone voice asking to consider the club becoming fan owned where the TRUST would really be able to determine where the club goes rather than accepting collective responsibility over decisions they don't agree with.


It's all well and good hoping that would happen but, would you want to part of an organisation that took on the club's debt?
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I cannot think of anyone on the Trust Board who isn't aware that our role is to represent the views of our members supporters of GTFC.


I have got a question Ian,

Now what is it ?

I will give you 3 guesses  


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It's a very difficult position to be in, the chekatraid (forgive the spelling) is a fine example, I assume the majority of members dislike the current format but the trust member has to talk about it in any official capacity as if it's the best thing since sliced bread, obviously a conflict of interest.
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The club hasn't listened to the views of the fans. It's time for the Trust to leave the board and provide vocal and open opposition.
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I personally think the Trust are better positioned by having someone on the board than not,
At least  they will be able to put the fans view across to the board and hopefully persuade enough board members to  think like they do,
You will never win every argument but at least having a seat around the table to try change mindsets is a must.


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The board always come to a unanimous decision,

If anybody disagrees with Fenty he makes them sit there until they come round to his way of thinking .


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I personally think the Trust are better positioned by having someone on the board than not,
At least  they will be able to put the fans view across to the board and hopefully persuade enough board members to  think like they do,
You will never win every argument but at least having a seat around the table to try change mindsets is a must.




Has the Trust (or any other board member for that matter) ever won any argument and influenced the club in a direction other than the one Fenty decides is the way to go?

I'm sorry, but what John wants, John gets.  

You can dicuss issues etc but when it comes to vote time his nodding yes men will push through whatever he decides.

The Checkatrade Trophy 'vote' is a prime example.  
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I personally think the Trust are better positioned by having someone on the board than not,
At least  they will be able to put the fans view across to the board and hopefully persuade enough board members to  think like they do,
You will never win every argument but at least having a seat around the table to try change mindsets is a must.




They will never win a 'big argument' or be listened to.
Fenty knows the views of the fans regarding checkatrade but quite clearly doesn't give a sh1t. The board are his puppets, so in my opinion the Trust should admit defeat and have a louder voice from outside the board. I doubt John cares about wether the trust agree in the boardroom or not. He will (as always) get his own way. A trust outside the boardroom actively supporting a TOTAL BOYCOTT of the Checkatrade could be far more effective.


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She said 'Well you already know how to play football'  
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This is my reply...

I believe that the direction the Trust should be heading is one similar to that of the German football leagues, Fan ownership.  Therefore the long term plan of the trust has to be to take full ownership of GTFC.

At present the only motivation that GTFC Plc has is to make money, the fans have little or no consideration when GTFC makes decisions, highlighted by the 1st and 2nd vote of the inclusion of B Teams in the EFL trophy.  The club needs to make money, that goes without saying but the Fans should be the top priority on every single decision that is made within and that clearly is not the case. The current board administration of GTFC is a shambles and the constant PR member ups are extremely embarrassing.

So how do we achieve the end goal of our football club being owned by us?  I don't know!  The problem with GTFC is that John Fenty has the clubs by the balls with his "benign" loans, no one wants to invest because of these loans meaning until the capital can be obtained to release JF from his loans we are stuck with him.  No one will pay out his loans without also having shares in the club, JF won't let anyone have a majority share as that'll loosen his power, and he craves power, which results in no fresh investors.  Somehow the fans need to raise the capital to pay of JF loans in exchange for shares.

The Trust has to remain on the Board, JF needs to be held accountable to the fans.  We (GTFC) are an entertainment product for the fans, not a cash cow or toy to inflate JF's ego.

I was an original member of the Trust when it first came into existence as I believed it could have an influence and progress the club, yet we have only regressed under JF. I would be willing to join again once I believe the Trust has an influence on the Board, I don't mean this a slight on the Trust as I know the people involved put tremendous amounts of hard work and passion into the Trust and Club.
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Mike Parker could not work with Fenty nor could he find any business man to take over as chairman while Fenty was still on the board,

So until he either snuffs it or gets fed up we are stuck with him.


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