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July 6, 2017, 9:54pm
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It's quite simple. We have a mural on the wall behind the Pontoon. The theme of this mural is diversity. It's not a 'legends' wall.

So, as you'd expect of a mural that celebrates diversity, it features the diverse range of people who have represented the Mariners.

Honestly, that's it.

If it was meant to be a legends wall, and it had Zhang Enhua on it, then you'd have a point.

But it's not a legends wall. It's not replacing a legends wall or trying to be a legends wall.

If you want a legends wall, or a wall to depict the trawlermen and fans, then I'm sure there's space for it somewhere in Blundell Park and the club would be delighted for you to get in touch and maybe help it happen. No one's telling you not to.


But why are we having a mural with diversity as its main theme? Why is that? Many people have contributed to the club over time, but what has diversity got to do with the history of the club? Have you ever heard anyone mention diversity in relation to GTFC prior to the mural? It is there because it is the politically correct thing to do, and I don't do political correctness.
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We should just clone thousands of whatever it is that the Fishy views as the 'Grimsby ideal' and never vary from that ever again.

Who knows how long we'd have been in the Conference without the multicultural team of Amond, Bogle, Arnold, Disley, Robertson etc.
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It's quite simple. We have a mural on the wall behind the Pontoon. The theme of this mural is diversity. It's not a 'legends' wall.

So, as you'd expect of a mural that celebrates diversity, it features the diverse range of people who have represented the Mariners.

Honestly, that's it.

If it was meant to be a legends wall, and it had Zhang Enhua on it, then you'd have a point.

But it's not a legends wall. It's not replacing a legends wall or trying to be a legends wall.

If you want a legends wall, or a wall to depict the trawlermen and fans, then I'm sure there's space for it somewhere in Blundell Park and the club would be delighted for you to get in touch and maybe help it happen. No one's telling you not to.


It may become a little clear for all once the Common Ground project is officially launched at the Mariners Trust open day but essentially this is it. It couldn't be anything else because the pot of money it came from was very specific in what would be done with it. Its not a stand alone thing but part of a larger project that GTSET and The Equality Practice are doing.

It's not about showing people's differences its about showing those on the outside that might want to come in that when you get your shirt on there is no difference.  #OneLoveOneClub and all that.

As the wall has been so fantastically received shoots sprout on other things but money has to be in place for them and rightly or wrongly its not on the clubs lists of priorities.


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We should just clone thousands of whatever it is that the Fishy views as the 'Grimsby ideal' and never vary from that ever again.

Who knows how long we'd have been in the Conference without the multicultural team of Amond, Bogle, Arnold, Disley, Robertson etc.


They were Grimsby Town footballers. Thats it. No other labels necessary. We might have a team of 11 Englishmen, we might have 11 different nationalities but I never give it a moments thought. Who does?
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Been there, done it. It's not multicultural, it's integrated. Largely because there is no single dominant incoming culture. The same used to be true of Tiger Bay, East Ham etc.

The difference is that in the 70s councils in West Yorks etc, set up situations for non-integration. Printing all documents in Urdu for instance. They encouraged the setting up of community councils dominated by religious leaders and more recently allowed the truly divisive expansion of faith schools which were effectively for the "one true faith".

I'm only saying this to show some people on here that there isn't anything simplistic about the issue and that the promotion of diversity is incredibly old fashioned and is proved to fail. I am amazed that,some younger people fall for this three card trick from decades ago and think it actually works and is a good thing. Integration is what matters. Togetherness as one society not trying to amalgamate different societies in the same geography.



I completely agree. It seems round where I live if you're not a committed Anglican or Catholic your kids can't get in half the schools.

Apart from that RRFC, you've completely got it wrong. 'Diversity' isn't about promoting isolation of different types of people but bringing them together. What you've been describing (in other posts) is the provision of support by local authorities to immigrant communities. That might have led to slower integration but it was't the aim. In many cases it was a result of the natural tendency of people to seek out others like themselves in a strange land. And the equally other natural tendency of the poorest people to end up in housing that others found substandard.

As for 'diversity' encouraging communities to support terrorism, I've heard some bunkum in my time. Most of the Jihadist loonies who have committed terrorist acts in this country have had westernised upbringings and have been to our universities having been through our school system. They were all fluent and native standard English speakers, not folk who struggled speaking anything but Urdu or Bengali. And that's before we get on to converts who came from distinctly non-Asian backgrounds. Mostly people with criminal histories. Murderous nutters like Levi Bellfield who have recently converted, and he grew up in what was then a white British working class neighbourhood.


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Why don't all those people moaning about not having a legends mural stop moaning about what others have done and get off their arses and actually do one themselves? Seems they're happy to whinge it seems but not actually do anything positive.

As for Grim74 offering to 'meet' people down the Avenue. Well that just shows what's never far from the surface with the extreme right.


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Crikey compare this thread to the comments on the article below. There are plenty of tolerant, caring, inclusive people around. I just think most of them don't do fish(y) until Friday.

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Here we go   the go to weapon of choice from a pathetic PC liberal who has no argument, I'm no racist you keyboard warrior fool but if you want to debate me over even say that to my face I will be down St. Peter's Ave shortly.

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I think Rich and Kristine have pretty much closed this debate.


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