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bax
July 11, 2017, 5:22pm
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Thanks for that and sorry if you were offended by my remarks.

I just feel that there's an air of inevitability developing and I was hoping that the Trust would champion more of a hardline stance, towards the club as well as to the Football League.




No offence taken.

What hardline stance should the Trust take, out of interest? A boycott didn't work last year - infact they upped the bribe of prize money - so in my opinion that failed and isn't worth repeating. I just don't see what 'hardline stance' would work.
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As the person who wrote the 'wishy washy' statement, we were asked by a number of supporters to make our feelings clear. That's been done at club board level - the matter was debated, the Trust rep voted against - and so we're communicating the course of action. If there was unanimous feeling by fans then I'm sure the Trust would support a boycott. But there isn't and so I personally (and the Trust board agrees) don't think it would be right or fair to push that on anyone. People will, and rightly should, make up their own minds.

FWIW I won't be attending any of the games, nor Wembley should we get there, but I respect the wishes of those who want to.


Spot on Bax.

The trust made its (and most of the fans) position clear.
John Fenty decided to totally ignore the wishes of the trust and what would seem to be the vast majority of fans.  Amazingly enough so did the other puppets on the board. That's not the trusts fault in any way.  


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To be fair the club does not need the Trust to tell them the fans do not like the set up,

The attendances tells them how the fans feel about it.


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To be fair the club does not need the Trust to tell them the fans do not like the set up,

The attendances tells them how the fans feel about it.


But the pieces of silver from Mr Harvey obviously outweighs the thoughts of the fans.

Given the group we are in it will test the resolve of those planning a boycott. However, it would send a message to the 'club' if we still stayed away in numbers.

Not that it would make the blindest bit of notice to the 'cough' board.


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I tend to agree with Southwark in the statement's 'wishy-washiness'. I just don't see the point of the statement "we entirely support the decision of each individual supporter to make up their own mind". I don't think anyone would oppose the idea of anyone making up their own mind - if the opposite of a statement doesn't make sense then it's probably a pointless statement.

You wouldn't say 'we don't support the decision of each individual supporter....'.

In purely hard-nosed business terms, if the PL are prepared to up the wedge when faced with a 75% boycott, then we should go for a total boycott.  


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As the person who wrote the 'wishy washy' statement, we were asked by a number of supporters to make our feelings clear. That's been done at club board level - the matter was debated, the Trust rep voted against - and so we're communicating the course of action. If there was unanimous feeling by fans then I'm sure the Trust would support a boycott. But there isn't and so I personally (and the Trust board agrees) don't think it would be right or fair to push that on anyone. People will, and rightly should, make up their own minds.

FWIW I won't be attending any of the games, nor Wembley should we get there, but I respect the wishes of those who want to.


It's clearly a massive majority of fans even if it's not unanimous. Surely the trust should be putting more pressure on the club publicly? We've seen record low attandances and the trust have canvassed fans.
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What hardline stance should the Trust take, out of interest? A boycott didn't work last year - infact they upped the bribe of prize money - so in my opinion that failed and isn't worth repeating. I just don't see what 'hardline stance' would work.


They had to change the format and increase prize money. I don't see that as failure. The next step is getting rid of category 1 development squads. We need to keep the pressure on them and empty stadiums will affect sponsorship deals.

The Trust could lead a boycott and help keep momentum going. You don't need unanimous support for it. The new stadium plans don't have unanimous support but the Trust fully backs those plans. Also, people can still make their own minds up as they did when choosing whether to buy a season ticket during Operation 3000.



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How do we 100% know the club voted in favour for this competition? I imagine they might have but we don't 100% know for sure.
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How do we 100% know the club voted in favour for this competition? I imagine they might have but we don't 100% know for sure.


There was a statement by the club.
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There was a statement by the club.


Yes,  but apart from that ?     


The wife was going away for a girly weekend.
I jokingly remarked  'I don't know whether to spend it watching porn or watching football'
'you may as well spend it watching porn' she replied
That's understanding darling what makes you say that? I asked

She said 'Well you already know how to play football'  
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