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Stew0_0
June 8, 2017, 4:53pm
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Interesting to hear that he had a positive conversation with Slade at the end of the season, but was informed that he will have competition for this season, so looks as though we will be signing another keeper.

Personally I think Macca is more than capable at this level, but would be good to have another keeper pushing him for his place
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Interesting to hear that he had a positive conversation with Slade at the end of the season, but was informed that he will have competition for this season, so looks as though we will be signing another keeper.

Personally I think Macca is more than capable at this level, but would be good to have another keeper pushing him for his place


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It's on the OS and Mariners Player


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Nice to hear Macca seems happier with Slade here and acknowledges he may have to fight for the right to ware the No1 shirt.
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June 8, 2017, 5:37pm

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Good. Think we should always have 2 decent keepers. Just hope Slade doesn't bring in John Lukic again.


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June 8, 2017, 5:47pm

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From that it makes me feel like the problem with him last season wasn't the getting dropped but overall there was a bigger problem with Bignot instead..
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From that it makes me feel like the problem with him last season wasn't the getting dropped but overall there was a bigger problem with Bignot instead..


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I think that was applicable with more than just Macca, JMT.


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Macca hasn't been at the top of his game for 3/4 seasons.  Yes, he was poor at times last season and maybe the managerial changes and uncertainty did not help him.  

He must have been affected by Henderson playing so well.

He will surely benefit from direct competition. And hopefully get back to his very best form.
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Quoted from Abdul19
Good. Think we should always have 2 decent keepers. Just hope Slade doesn't bring in John Lukic again.


Oh no danger of that, seems he realised that following in his father's footsteps wasn't his calling and became a Doctor.
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Quoted from Abdul19
Good. Think we should always have 2 decent keepers. Just hope Slade doesn't bring in John Lukic again.


More Steve Mildenhall than Anthony Williams please, Slade.
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I think macca is a decent keeper at this level. dont know if we will ever find out what happened last season to make him spit his dummy out,, but one thing for sure  is that if it was just because he got dropped , other managers/ clubs will know about it and wouldnt give him a second glance. because they all want fighters for the shirt not tantrums.
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June 8, 2017, 8:30pm
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He's an average L2 keeper, if we are genuine about a promotion challenge we need better.
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I think Macca is a liability. Look how badly he responded to the competition of Henderson - threw his toys out of the pram and sulked. He has cost us too many points to be considered as a first choice keeper.
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Macca is a better keeper than a few realise, remember this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydoRhKgxqKE


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Last season was a learning curve for Macca. He had a few good games and a few shockers, and got beaten by just about every free kick within a 35 yard radius. He found himself out of the side to a lad way too good for this league and then I think he got compared to Henderson and probably compared himself, but that's not fair because Dean is way out of this league. He spat his dummy out a bit and he probably regrets that. But as far as keepers go, Macca is fairly young and below his peak, he could grow stronger for that experience and maybe another year at this level, and some healthy competition will see him improve. I certainly hope so.


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So he should have competition, every player should and every player should accept that and relish it. Henderson was a breath of fresh air, it was a great bit of recruitment by Hurst but he bottled actually playing him for the majority of his stay.

It should make us all realise that Macca wasnt anything like the complete keeper we need to push on, he certainly isnt terrible but his game has   ( and always has had ) certain flaws, crosses, commanding his back four, commanding his box...Henderson was streets ahead in those areas and the back four looked more comfortable for it.

Pearson, Collins , Andrew all have had stand up arguments with Macca this season, largely over balls around the 6 yd box....dont recall Henderson having those arguments.

Another Henderson style loan may be our best bet, stealing a younger higher league keeper has been proven possible...why not again ?


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So he should have competition, every player should and every player should accept that and relish it. Henderson was a breath of fresh air, it was a great bit of recruitment by Hurst but he bottled actually playing him for the majority of his stay.

It should make us all realise that Macca wasnt anything like the complete keeper we need to push on, he certainly isnt terrible but his game has   ( and always has had ) certain flaws, crosses, commanding his back four, commanding his box...Henderson was streets ahead in those areas and the back four looked more comfortable for it.

Pearson, Collins , Andrew all have had stand up arguments with Macca this season, largely over balls around the 6 yd box....dont recall Henderson having those arguments.

Another Henderson style loan may be our best bet, stealing a younger higher league keeper has been proven possible...why not again ?


Yes it was good recruitment  by Hurst and also good management in staying loyal to a keeper that in the past when his deal had been up chose to stay with Town and though it took longer than we wanted played a huge part in getting us back in the FL, something Bignot failed to grasp with a number of lads in the squad.  

Bignot started playing Henderson for 1 reason and 1 reason only and that is that if he didn't he would have had to have searched for a new "2nd keeper" as Man U would have called him back, another situation where Marcus ended up with egg on his face as he did go back and we had no replacement. Also if he hadn't have played him the likelihood of us seeing anymore Man U kids would have probably been zero as big clubs loan out their kids to play.  

You could see Henderson had talent and had been "brought up" in a system that developed his confidence, technique and reading of the game, a World of difference to Macca's journey. Henderson was also very quick to "kiss the badge" another behaviour we see in Premiership footballers. Clearly though Henderson in what was actually a short stint looked better than Macca but in that he also probably looked better than most league 2 keepers as well.

My view? Although James made himself look a male private especially on the radio after Stevenage away he at the moment is out keeper and we need to get behind him but we also need some credible competition which inevitably will come from a youngster or someone at the end of their career as no keeper/player in his prime would join us without being pretty sure of selection each week.  


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If he moves on he's still going to have "competition"
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Henderson was also very quick to "kiss the badge" another behaviour we see in Premiership footballers.  


Like a floppy haired Lee Peacock! (not the Premier League bit)


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June 9, 2017, 12:36pm

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As Lord Buckley said to me many moons ago "good keepers are two a penny son"


The boss told me to put it in the corner.....i thought he meant the top corner.
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As Lord Buckley said to me many moons ago "good keepers are two a penny son"


If that was the case why the fck did he sign Rhys Wilmott !!!???

Should have gone for the other one of the two.


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Still would not be surprised if he is not shrew by the beginning of the season
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Quoted from TownSNAFU5
Macca hasn't been at the top of his game for 3/4 seasons.  Yes, he was poor at times last season and maybe the managerial changes and uncertainty did not help him.  

He must have been affected by Henderson playing so well.

He will surely benefit from direct competition. And hopefully get back to his very best form.



But when he had competition , in Henderson, he spit his dummy out when the competition was preferred to him !! Macca was quite good non-league and is a reasonably capable lower League 2 keeper but if we want promotion to League 1 then we must get a better keeper. If we do, then how will Macca react ? Past evidence shows that he can't handle being second choice and he will probably throw a wobbler again.


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But when he had competition , in Henderson, he spit his dummy out when the competition was preferred to him !! Macca was quite good non-league and is a reasonably capable lower League 2 keeper but if we want promotion to League 1 then we must get a better keeper. If we do, then how will Macca react ? Past evidence shows that he can't handle being second choice and he will probably throw a wobbler again.


I got the impression from the infamous Stevenage interview plus that one on MP yesterday showed that it was probably more to do with Bignot than Henderson if truth be told. I think there was a total communication breakdown, the conflicting interviews at Stevenage proved that, he was all fishy. That never happened with Hurst and I suspect RS is a good enough manager to get the best out of Macca more consistently.


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June 9, 2017, 11:35pm

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I suspect RS is a good enough manager to get the best out of Macca more consistently.


Hurst gave complete 100% backing to Macca, season after season but he still was liable to poor mistakes on a regular basis. Nothing to do with who ever managers him, a decent keeper but we need better if we want to progress.

A No:1 keeper is top priority in the next few weeks


Are we any closer to getting promoted since Hurst has been here? No

Has he been given time to achieve promotion by the chairman and fans? Yes

Hurst out
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June 10, 2017, 4:07am
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What keeper doesn't make mistakes I wouldn't say it is No1 priority.
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What keeper doesn't make mistakes I wouldn't say it is No1 priority.


I did say "on a regular basis"
Good keepers make less mistakes than average keepers


Are we any closer to getting promoted since Hurst has been here? No

Has he been given time to achieve promotion by the chairman and fans? Yes

Hurst out
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Quoted from Mrs Doyle
What keeper doesn't make mistakes I wouldn't say it is No1 priority.



A good keeper is a No1 priority if you want promotion!


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