Looks like it's happened again.

Quoted from Rick12

Having spoken to Muslim friends in London one in particular  didnt like the values of the West and felt it to liberal eg  mentioned liberal women who sleep around(though would never resort to terrorism).Has a point though sadly some(very small minority) take it to the next level and attack the west based on warped fanatical religious views

Different ideology's based on different cultures and I cant see it changing unless the world in these peoples eyes become more Islamic.

And there lies the problem, we do as they say or they try to Kill us.

Quoted from Rick12

Having spoken to Muslim friends in London one in particular  didnt like the values of the West and felt it to liberal eg  mentioned liberal women who sleep around(though would never resort to terrorism).Has a point though sadly some(very small minority) take it to the next level and attack the west based on warped fanatical religious views

Different ideology's based on different cultures and I cant see it changing unless the world in these peoples eyes become more Islamic.

He doesn't have a point Rick. If a woman wants to have casual sex and enjoy it then that has intercourse all to do with you or your friend.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

He doesn't have a point Rick. If a woman wants to have casual sex and enjoy it then that has intercourse all to do with you or your friend.

Exactly this!

If people cannot accept the values of the west, they need to leave this country and go and live in another continent.

We need to be more ruthless, radical  and cleverer than the terrorists.   If we cannot keep check on all the returning jihadists, then we need to reduce the numbers to manageable numbers for the security service to monitor.  There must be ways to restrict their free movement.        

I might have got a few facts wrong in my last post but this I saw and heard Corbyn say myself,

He does not believe in the police having a shoot to kill policy , its very dangerous he says,

Of course its fooking dangerous they kill the terrorists,

If the police did not act as fast as they did there would have been a lot more  killings,

We should  talk to them and try and prevent these things happening he said,

AND

Some of you want him to be Prime Minister.

I would just like to add,

Well done  to the Police and other services in their prompt action which saved  many more lives.

There are plenty of Christians who believe we shouldn't be as liberal/promiscuous as we are in the west. And don't think we should have abortions, birth control and lots of other things. And I don't just mean the millions of Orthodox Christians in Russia (who believe we have already got to hell in that handcart). Plenty in Britain and the rest of the West. Difference is most of them don't kill people over it.

Oh apart from the anti-abortion nutters in America.

Anyway the point is, people can have the same opinion despite ethnic or religious background. So do away with muslims and you'd have to do away with Christians too.

I'm not sure what statement by Corbyn you're referring to Pete, but are you ruling out talking to anyone about it any time? Will it only stop after a war of attrition lasting God knows how long?

Plenty of politicians don't believe in shoot-to-kill policies either. Obviously they don't appreciate how dangerous a shoot-to-wound policy is either when faced with an armed assailant.

Quoted from grimsby pete

I might have got a few facts wrong in my last post but this I saw and heard Corbyn say myself,

He does not believe in the police having a shoot to kill policy , its very dangerous he says,

Wrong again, I'm afraid, Pete:

https://www.theguardian.com/po.....tional-circumstances

You've probably been misled because this meme has been spinning around after Kuenssberg did a job on Corbyn by misrepresenting what he said in an interview with her, something for which she was pulled up on by the BBC Trust:

http://www.independent.co.uk/n.....corbyn-a7533096.html

To be fair, I'd say Corbyn deserves some criticism for not being more clear about his views in the first place but Kuenssberg got into trouble with the BBC Trust because her report insinuated that he wouldn't want armed police to shoot to kill in a hostage situation when he'd not been asked about anything like that.

I think the general principle that the police shouldn't shoot to kill wherever possible is absolutely fine. The terrorists who killed Lee Rigby were both shot non-fatally which is within the remit of our laws. If you go the other way then you end up with situations like De Menezes - the unarmed Brazilian who was chased into a tube station and killed by a group of armed police who panicked in the aftermath of the 7/7 attacks. Last night, the attackers had fake suicide vests on - you'd have to shoot to kill in those situations.

Quoted from 1739

If anyone has an answer on how to combat radical extremism in the UK then I  would be intrigued. What are we going to do? This has got nothing to do with immagration as most of the extremists doing this are homegrown and from Britain. People can say 'more censorship on the internet' but there are many other forms of brainwashing people than just the internet, just look at the Nazis.

Here's a start reform the Koran it's a book of evil. We are constantly told Islam is a peaceful religion well if that is the case these peace loving muslims won't have a problem if we take out all evil verses the ones they choose to ignore anyway.

We then have a 6 month amnesty to rid the country of this filth only the new reformed Koran will be allowed, then make it a criminal offence for anyone to be in possession and punishable by life imprisoment.

Round up the 300 jihad's that we know are walking the streets then send them to internment, close down the Saudi funded mosques, and install live feed cctv cameras with audio in all remaining mosques, shut Islamic schools.

I could go on but this is what I want to see as a minimum a line has been well and truly crossed so no more PC crap, no more Islamaphobia bullshit, no more "we are united by our values" bullshit that Corbyrn is talking about right now,

Quoted from Grim74

Here's a start reform the Koran it's a book of evil. We are constantly told Islam is a peaceful religion well if that is the case these peace loving muslims won't have a problem if we take out all evil verses the ones they choose to ignore anyway.

We then have a 6 month amnesty to rid the country of this filth only the new reformed Koran will be allowed, then make it a criminal offence for anyone to be in possession and punishable by life imprisoment.

Round up the 300 jihad's that we know are walking the streets then send them to internment, close down the Saudi funded mosques, and install live feed cctv cameras with audio in all remaining mosques, shut Islamic schools.

I could go on but this is what I want to see as a minimum a line has been well and truly crossed so no more PC crap, no more Islamaphobia bullshit, no more "we are united by our values" bullshit that Corbyrn is talking about right now,

Great idea. Instead of 1% of muslims being terrorists, you'd probably increase the number by a factor of 10.

I'm all for discouraging religions, including Christianity. It's just as bad as Islam. All faith schools should be abolished, or heavily taxed. There seem to be far too many churches to meet the actual demand these days, attendance has been dwindling since 1859 when the truth was revealed! But if kids are not spoon-fed religion at school it should die an even quicker death.