Looks like it's happened again.

Quoted from MarinerMal

I'm the coward but you are the one who speaks from fear with your continued attack on muslims. You hear nothing, I'm looking for integration not segregation. More segregation would happen if we listened to people like you and look where that has gotten us.

It's in the Koran not to take non Muslims as friends

I've told you previously you can't deal with intolerance with intolerance.

Something needs to be done, be it tougher laws that deal with radicalism otherwise in times of strife people themselves take action.

I didn't realise rape was just something Muslims did. I'm sure I've read somewhere about the odd white British male committing the same crime. Or is that not as bad as they are white British?

What he is talking about is the way Muslims see non Muslim women and age means nothing to them, to some Muslim men, non Muslim women are dirt and to be treated as so.

Fear is a weakness. The brave are the ones who carry on with their daily lives, the courage you see in young children refusing to bow down to terrorist intimidation at concerts, the people carrying on their daily lives. Refusing to give the terrorists what they want. You could learn a lot from such courage. Your fear is born of ignorance and is fueled by anger and hate. It is understandable, but take courage, from the way forward, the young are showing you.

Fear is the tool the radical Muslim employs time and time again, standing firm only gets you so far, the law needs to modernise to get these radicals off the streets otherwise people will be forced to act.

You take quotes from the Koran as if it shows how evil it is. I could do the very same thing with the Bible and it has too been used in the past to generate hate against those who believe in something else. Your quotes prove nothing other than to highlight your prejudiced ignorance.

You can't find one verse in the New Testament that says kill unbelievers, Jesus never killed anyone, he was crucified but look in the Koran you can find 35 sword verses, Mohammed was nothing but a bloodthirsty war lord who beheaded 600 Jews who wouldn't convert to Islam.

Youtube is not the place one should look to prove anything. If that is the extent of your research it proves much.

It is not a treacherous (a word you could look up the meaning of) comment, it's true. Or do you deny the crusades (definitely done under the name of Christianity), the of occupations under the empire, the invading of the countries in the name of democracy or world peace (but really about oil), the dropping of bombs, the stirring up of civil unrest. Hell, it's amazing even more of them don't hate us. Even though we may say most of these acts were not done in the name of Christianity, as far as these countries are concerned they were done by Christian countries.

You can stick your head in the sand about the affects of the foreign policy but it can't be denied it's exactly helped the situation has it? There can be little doubt the actions of the west have fueled this hatred. So sure, continue fighting back, it's been working really so far hasn't it? Drop more bombs on them because that hasn't increased attacks has it? Yet you have the temerity to blame the liberals for this mess. If the liberals would have been listened to, we wouldn't have been there in the first place.

It's interesting you want to take to the streets and fight back. Against whom exactly? How will you identify those who are a danger and those who are those who are not? Or will you just attack people based on what they are wearing, the colour of the skin perhaps? All you sound is very scared and afraid and full of hate, you are becoming the very people you wish to attack.

Quoted from Marinerz93

Great post Roast Em Bobby, it's been happening for a long time that undesirables are used as informants or double agents.

When I was in Afghanistan in 2008, my unit was waiting for orders to go to a site 100 miles away from the Iranian border but was cancelled due to intelligence stating that Iranian intelligence was observing that particular area and would have known we were there and it could have led to confrontation.

Iran will happen at some point, it's been building for years.

Quoted from Maringer

We won't be invading Iran. No way, no how.

Well-equipped, well-trained, highly-motivated military. It's a proper nation with thousands of years of history - pretty much the opposite of the basket case which was Iraq - a country of warring factions and tribes held together by brute force which collapsed when that was taken away. A vast country of 75 million people, none of whom would welcome any invaders.

You'd have to be an imbecile to attempt to invade. Hopefully the one in the White House won't take that as a challenge!

Quoted from Marinerz93

In A.D. 144, the church of Rome  continued the sifting process on what was Scripture and what wasn’t for the New Testament. The Jewish Scripture is exactly what Protestants today call the Old Testament. Montanus controversy pushed the church to ask further questions of their Scriptures. Specifically, was God bringing further revelation? Could that revelation be true if it contradicted things taught by Jesus and the apostles? Could new truth change or add to the basic teachings the church had been feeding on for the past century? The answer was no. From this the church concluded that the canon of Scripture was closed.

Quoted from Marinerz93

It won't be a ground war it will strategic airstrikes, and it will be nuclear weaponry that will be the spark like Iraq weapons of mass destruction.

Iran - Iraq war lasted 8 years which left over a million dead from both sides both military and civilian, it was stopped by UN-brokered ceasefire. Iran may not be the force you believe but you are correct in saying certainly a tougher opponent and I also hope that Trump doesn't see that as a challenge too.

Quoted from Mariner93er

You forget that Islam as a religion is 700 years younger than Christianity. At the same age, Christianity was guilty of widespread persecution. So you can bang on about how Islam is the lone evil religion, but it still won't be true. It's all down to how the theology is interpreted, and at this time there is a problem with a higher percentage following a radical interpretation. This will change in time, very few things remain a constant in human history, especially the values that we live by.

Quoted from MarinerMal

To reply to your replies Marinerz93.

"It's in the Koran not to take non Muslims as friends"

Yet many do. You also need to understand the term non Muslim in the context it is meant.

Explain the context because Unbelievers are described by Muhammad (in the Quran) as "the vilest of animals" and "losers." Christians and Jews are hated by Allah to the extent that they are destined for eternal doom as a result of their beliefs. It would make no sense for Muhammad to then recommend that they be taken as friends by Muslims. In fact, the Quran plainly orders believers not to take unbelievers as friends. .

"Something needs to be done, be it tougher laws that deal with radicalism otherwise in times of strife people themselves take action."

Possibly. But what and how would you enact these tougher laws?

The intelligence community have information on the majority of suspects, ammend treason laws and deport / exile those with ISIS propaganda for a start.

"What he is talking about is the way Muslims see non Muslim women and age means nothing to them, to some Muslim men, non Muslim women are dirt and to be treated as so."

Unfortunately, we have them in our society too, they tend to be called peadophiles and rapists. Or those who just dislike women are simply called misogynists or sexist. Christainity has also had a dim opinion of women historically.

Good counter point but there have been gangs of Muslims exposed in Rochdale, Manchester, Rotherham more than any homegrown degenerates.

"Fear is the tool the radical Muslim employs time and time again, standing firm only gets you so far, the law needs to modernise to get these radicals off the streets otherwise people will be forced to act."

They look to instigate fear, they would have succeeded if we start to alter people human rights, make our society less free and show them how fearful we are. Carry on as normal showing them we will not be cowed into their way of thinking, is our best course of action. If we can identify those who'd commit such acts, they by all means get them off our streets but you have to be careful to you don't start persecuting the innocent out of fear. You'd only increase the extremists numbers.

Fair comment

"You can't find one verse in the New Testament that says kill unbelievers, Jesus never killed anyone, he was crucified but look in the Koran you can find 35 sword verses, Mohammed was nothing but a bloodthirsty war lord who beheaded 600 Jews who wouldn't convert to Islam."

You didn't find kill unbelievers.

from 1 Samuel 15:3: "This is what the Lord Almighty says ... 'Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.' "

Revenge for what Amalek did to Israel, how he set himself against him on the way while he was coming up from Egypt.

Exodus 22:18: "Do not allow a sorceress to live."

reflect the semantic range of idolatrous practices condemned by YHWH among the Israelites. The article also purports to show that the phrase לא תחיה does not necessarily mean to kill the offender, and that the prohibition can be understood as being essentially religious rather than merely legal.

Psalm 137 "Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us / He who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks."

This scripture seems to be the cry of one who lives under the Old Testament concept of "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth." The Babylonians utterly destroyed Jerusalem, no doubt smashing babies on the rocks, among many other torturous, evil deeds. The psalmist is crying out in his pain that God would repay the Babylonians in the same way.

Christ has shown us a better way. We are to love our enemies and pray for those who persecute us.

That was just from the quickest of searches on the internet

Interesting you should mention just the new testament. Why not the old? If you follow one you must follow the other according to Jesus ""Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.  I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."

As with growing awareness and understanding it should mean we become less violent as we become enlightened. The Koran is Gods final word and every verse should be followed to the letter or you are not a Muslim according to the Koran itself. Christianity has reformed and evolved, most Christians only go to church for weddings and funerals whilst in Islam you pray 5 times a day, is God that needy?

"Islam has 1.5 Billion followers of which 5% are said to be radicalized, that's 75 million radicals throughout the world, how did so many people get their religion wrong."

So 95% are not then!

So you are happy that there are 75 million radical Muslims who want to change the world, let's just hope they don't join together because we don't have enough bombs or bullets to stop that many.

"There are 2.2 Billion Christians in the world, to equal Islams 5% radicals there would be 100 Million radical Christians wanting to chop peoples heads off and burn them alive, thankfully we are not filled with hate, there is something terribly wrong with Islam and it's in it's roots."

2.2 millions Christians generally from the mainly, well educated, well developed west.

Are you saying that Muslims are backward and ignorant?

As for all the deaths you contribute to Muslims, all the biggest homicide rates still belong to countries who have Christianity as their main religion.

Are these deaths claimed to be for God or are they just degenerates killing for other reasons like greed, jealousy and gang related?