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May 13, 2017, 8:05am
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The problem is that the Trust is crippled in having to fall in line when these 'collective' decisions are made. JF has been very clever here. In keeping the Trust close and cosy with a seat on the board (which is of course more or less symbolic) he can have some degree of control and take advantage of the good work that the Trust do for free and of course the Trust have to pay 30k a year for the privilage having already transferred to JF a large number of it shares.
I would like to see the Trust as an independent enity (no board rep) that can truly fight for it's membership and GTFC supporters.


Sadly I believe that the representatives at the top of the trust have got to close to the board and are almost scared for their voices to be heard, this has been shown in the last 2 fans forums. Like I have suggested before, why can't we have a democratic vote as who should be representing the trust on the board? At least that way their would be a degree of trust from the fans.
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Do the board really need anyone to tell them, it was obvious from the games we took part in (609 and 597 crowds). It's not the "Fishy Five", the Twitterati, or any other vocal subset of fans who boycotted the games, it's most of the regular supporters even people who have been to every game for years. I suspect even those who went may have done so with heavy hearts.


Its now up to the 609 and 597 to not turn up. The remaining thousands remain true to the cause.
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Sadly I believe that the representatives at the top of the trust have got to close to the board and are almost scared for their voices to be heard, this has been shown in the last 2 fans forums. Like I have suggested before, why can't we have a democratic vote as who should be representing the trust on the board? At least that way their would be a degree of trust from the fans.


All the Trust board are elected at the AGM, then they put forward candidate(s) to represent them at board level.
The club board have the right to accept or decline any candidate put forward but I agree it seems odd that, for example, Lee Mullen was appointed because he had money whilst the Trust rep has to be vetted, and carefully chosen by the club board.
I can't say I know all the Trust board but is there anyone strong enough to represent the fans more strongly? Maybe if they did their tenure would be short lived
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Surley the club lose more money than they gain because the massively low crowds.

Having said that, even if we had voted against it we'd still have had it imposed on us so I wouldn't be too disappointed if we've seen the way the wind's blowing and voted accordingly. Bit like a careerist politician does.


I've wasted my life in black and white, a pathetic act for a worthless cause
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pizzzza
May 13, 2017, 9:01am

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It will be interesting to see if the Trust comes out in support of or against the fans game that seems to be gathering momentum as a protest against the EFL Trophy. I suspect that they will not be 'allowed' to rebel against the club here but I would be delighted to be proved wrong.
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May 13, 2017, 9:32am
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Perhaps it should be made clear whether the Trust members on the board are representatives or delegates.

If they are representatives of the supporters they simply state the view of the supporters and vote the way the supporters in effect have told them.

If they are delegates they have the power to consider the fans' views, listen to the arguments on the board, weigh it all up and then make a decision on how to vote.


“If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind.”
― John Stuart Mill, On Liberty."
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Does Jon Wood (the Mariners Trust board representative) represent the fans or does he actually only represent himself? What if the fans feel one thing but he totally disagrees with us?
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May 13, 2017, 3:05pm
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Who cares if Town get to Wembley
I'll be there!!!!
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I won't.
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Wembley would be one of the easier games for me to get to if we got to the final. I won't go. Attendance at Wembley is used to validate the plan. Look how Harvey used the Coventry-Oxford attendance figure. I know we'd stand to make money out of a Wembley appearance, but that only goes to the two clubs who get there. It's just another payment for the soul.

I understand John Fenty's rationale for this. Sure it's nice to have a little extra money for the club.  But as far as I'm concerned it's a Faustian pact.


Through the door there came familiar laughter,
I saw your face and heard you call my name.
Oh my friend we're older but no wiser,
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
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