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Quoted from 1739

If JF hasn't took the fans opinions on board on this occasion then it just shows that the fans won't get get consulted about anything to do with the new stadium. If Harvey and his mates deem it a success again then it will be the death of lower league football as this will be seen as a licence for them to introduce B teams into the football league pyramid. 66 % of clubs voted in favour of the competition which shows there are a few clubs in the country who take on board the fans feelings towards the competition.

That's a very good point. As I said in another post, the wrong decision/vote undermines confidence in those who run clubs and the game.

Quoted from Bigdog

Some decent regionalised groups that would spark some local interest.. Better than Walsall away or Leicester U23 anyway.


GTFC, Scunthorpe, Lincoln, Doncaster

Notts County, Mansfield, Chesterfield, Rotherham

Portsmouth, Crawley, AFC Wimbledon, Charlton

Exeter, Plymouth, Yeovil, Newport

Gillingham, Southend, Colchester, Millwall

Bristol Rovers, Swindon, Oxford, Cheltenham

Carlisle, Fleetwood, Morecambe, Blackpool

Coventry, Walsall, Shrewsbury, Port Vale

Peterborough, Cambridge, Northampton, MK Dons

Rochdale, Accrington, Bury, Blackburn

Tranmere, Wigan, Crewe, Oldham

Barnet, Luton, Stevenage, Wycombe

Low travel costs and times and some cracking derbies in there..

This!

If I wanted to watch youth players I would go and watch Towns youth, when I go to a professional game, I want to see first team players from both teams going hell for leather to win a game of football.

If Fenty can't see this is thin edge of the wedge of what Havey wants he gets then he doesn't understand that some loon in power is very capable of ruining the lower leagues because of ego and buying Chairman's votes.

The outrage of fans across all clubs was clear and that should have been message enough to all clubs to vote against this regardless of the size of the carrot that was being hung out.

This venture Fenty will cost you again and you only have yourself to blame, shame on you.

I think the main problem here is that Mr Ferry and the board make thier decisions based on finances.

The option they chose is the most financially viable for the football club next season.

Us fans look at the bigger picture. We simply don't trust premier league teams or the EFL to look after the best interests of our club (and clubs like ours) in the long term.

However I do think we can trust Fenty and the board to look after our club and stand up to the EFL in the future.

So for now I think we will have to agree to disagree with the boards decision and vote with our feet as we did last year.

As always we'll stick together, show our feelings and fight if we need to.

UTM

Quoted from BackHeelTony

I think the main problem here is that Mr Ferry and the board make thier decisions based on finances.

The option they chose is the most financially viable for the football club next season.


UTM

I have my doubts about that. I've never seen proof.

Quoted from 1739

If JF hasn't took the fans opinions on board on this occasion then it just shows that the fans won't get get consulted about anything to do with the new stadium. If Harvey and his mates deem it a success again then it will be the death of lower league football as this will be seen as a licence for them to introduce B teams into the football league pyramid. 66 % of clubs voted in favour of the competition which shows there are a few clubs in the country who take on board the fans feelings towards the competition.

Just because 66% voted in favour of the competition it doesn't mean the inevitable introduction of B teams in the Football League. The Football League require 90% of clubs ( I do believe ) to allow the introduction of B teams and I can never see that happening. It would cause chaos for both relegation and promotion within the leagues . Imagine the scenario if a B team got in a play-off place instead of a " traditional " team.
I don't like Harvey and his approach but I think he is trying to keep a fading competition alive because of the sponsorship it brings. Some of the club chairmen are in favour of this cup format because it allows them to " blood " some youngsters in a higher quality game than they normally experience as reserves.

Quoted from rancido

Just because 66% voted in favour of the competition it doesn't mean the inevitable introduction of B teams in the Football League. The Football League require 90% of clubs ( I do believe ) to allow the introduction of B teams and I can never see that happening. It would cause chaos for both relegation and promotion within the leagues . Imagine the scenario if a B team got in a play-off place instead of a " traditional " team.
I don't like Harvey and his approach but I think he is trying to keep a fading competition alive because of the sponsorship it brings. Some of the club chairmen are in favour of this cup format because it allows them to " blood " some youngsters in a higher quality game than they normally experience as reserves.

Stop talking sense.

Personally, I think that Fenty could turn this into his advantage. If he made entry for these games £1 per person, people may go and have a cheap match day experience. take the family, and then return for the more important games. Alternatively, he should charge entry at £100 per person to stop any attendance and give a big middle finger to Harvey.

Quoted from rancido

Just because 66% voted in favour of the competition it doesn't mean the inevitable introduction of B teams in the Football League. The Football League require 90% of clubs ( I do believe ) to allow the introduction of B teams and I can never see that happening. It would cause chaos for both relegation and promotion within the leagues . Imagine the scenario if a B team got in a play-off place instead of a " traditional " team.
I don't like Harvey and his approach but I think he is trying to keep a fading competition alive because of the sponsorship it brings. Some of the club chairmen are in favour of this cup format because it allows them to " blood " some youngsters in a higher quality game than they normally experience as reserves.

There is an agenda in both the FA and Premier League to pursue the introduction of B Teams into the pyramid. They think it'll improve the England team and make the PL stronger. They've been open about this, but there is huge opposition against it. Even with the opposition against the trophy format they've been able to shoehorn it in. They'll be trying with the league next and it'll be weak chairman getting their head turned by a few quid that'll vote it through and say "we had no choice".

There is no benefit to league teams from this other than a little boost in income. It perpetuates the problem of PL teams hoarding players and not loaning them out because they can play them in more competitive games.

[quote=120870]I think the main problem here is that Mr Ferry and the board make their decisions based on finances.



That's a big part of the role at any club to be honest.

Not been too close to this as I am not that bothered in reality but how much money do the Prem teams have to pay to enter a team? Or are they "invited"?

Seems to me the biggest threat to the EFL is that The Championship clubs break away and become the 2nd tier of the Premier League which looking at how big the top half of the Championship is could be a bigger possibility than Prem B/U23 teams becoming part of the EFL pyramid.

Cosying up to the Prem is not the way to keep them from absorbing your bigger clubs. The solution to stopping this is to limit the amount of "average" foreign players turning out for Prem clubs each week thus allowing your own young talent some opportunity to play 1st team football rather than playing in what are in reality pointless games to them. The only people who can in reality can implement restrictions is the Prem and as we all know "Turkey's don't vote for Christmas".

One of the promises made by the introduction of the Premier League was that it would strengthen the England team.....................still waiting..................

Meanwhile the Germans, the French, the Italians, even the Greeks and the Danes have won a major competition, or more than one in some cases.