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cmackenzie4
April 27, 2017, 4:40pm

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I've been watching things unfolding this last week and things look quite worrying indeed.

Kim Jong-un doesn't seem to be all there and showing no signs of backing down.

What do you think the outcome will be then?



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If anything happens, the South Koreans are screwed. NK apparently has enough conventional artillery aimed at Seoul to obliterate the place in minutes so the small nukes they apparently do have aren't really of great relevance in that situation.

If North Korea were to attempt to nuke the American carrier group (assuming there is actually one nearby and not thousands of miles away and steaming in the opposite direction like the last one!), then the Yanks will respond in kind but with H-Bombs. Goodbye Pyonyang (and Seoul) if that occurs.

It is doubtful that NK missile tech has the capability to hit anywhere other countries but, again, the Yanks would flatten NK if they did manage to hit Japan.

If there is any conflict of any sort, NK will be obliterated and then it's just a question of who else is dragged into the mayhem.

Ultimately, I don't think any of the Kims are that stupid, truth be told, so it's just more sabre-rattling. Whether Trump realises this or not is a different matter!

Massive global recession to occur if there is any conflict as well, of course, not that the millions dead will care.
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Quoted from cmackenzie4
I've been watching things unfolding this last week and things look quite worrying indeed.

Kim Jong-un doesn't seem to be all there and showing no signs of backing down.

What do you think the outcome will be then?



All very worrying, Trump is also completely unpredictable, either way I feel sorry for the Koreans stu k in the middle of all this, the last thing we need is another war
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April 27, 2017, 5:36pm

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They should make them both have a sumo wrestling contest,

The loser falls on his sword,

Seriously I  think they will come to their senses before pressing the nuke button,

China does hold a bit of influence with North Korea and they will broker an agreement.


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This is the very thing that worried me when Trump got elected and everyone started to get nationalistic. Us leaving Europe i put in the same category. Once people retreat behind their borders, blame immigrants for everything and get an entrenched view of the world, wars start breaking out. The same signs are there as the ones in the 30's, with even moderate countries like Holland going all right wing on us.
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I think air strikes of some sort aren't far away, Trump can't play the long game and is too reactionary.


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I feel a conflict may not be too far away. What I think is pivotal at the minute is not the Americans or north korea, but china. The fact they seem to be losing patience with Kim will leave him feeling more isolated and unpredictable than ever. When people get desperate, they do crazy things.
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I can't see North Korea giving up their nuclear weapons at all, So war will be inevitable in my opinion. Apparently within 4-5 years Kim Jong-Un will have weapons that can reach America and beyond so there's no going back now.


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North Korea and the Republic of Korea have always been at war, since the Armistice was effectively a cease-fire agreement. Ever since 1953 North Korea has even gone to the length of sending a Special Forces team to assassinate the South Korean President. Without mentioning the Demilitarised Zone, and ballistic missile testings and defenses. If trump solves the Korean issue without the use of force, that would be the best diplomatic endeavour of the century. Easier said than done though, Kim Jong-Un and his regime is built on anti-Americanism and many would die for his cause, many would happily leave too.

Wouldn't it be amazing to travel to North Korea, if it was unified. In a field you'd have newly arrived modern agricultural tech on one side of the path, and on the other side old fashioned, manual labour as in past centuries.        


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China's reaction is key. The problem is they have this avowed policy of not interfering in (or even commenting on, unless pushed) other countries' affairs. They're also supposedly run by parties with the same origin (though one seems to have become one run along authoritarian capitalist lines, and the other as a latter-day medieval absolute monarchy). That would make it hard for them to publicly do anything to rein NK in, even if it wanted to.

But without China's agreement to whatever settlement is made, we could end up in global war, with the central powers (China, Russia, Iran) lining up against the surrounding ones. And maybe like WWI, Turkey sits on the sidelines until it joins who it thinks the winners will be.


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