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How did Labour under Corbyn do?
Well, there was the biggest swing in vote since 1945.
The Sainted Tony Blair (in his own imagination) earned an 8.8% swing to Labour from 1992. Corbyn earned a 9.5% swing yesterday. Completely unheard of in British politics since 1945, yet the usual right-wing loons are claiming he should resign.
Also, anybody who seriously believes May called this election to 'give her a mandate' should be wearing a big red nose, spinning bow tie, and comically baggy trousers because they are obviously not in the right job.
Typically, of course, our flipping stupid electoral system takes the biscuit. The Tories got 5% more votes than Labour but 21% more seats. Much, much more than they deserve and for all their bluster, they know just how lucky they have been. They deserved less than 300 seats.
If only we had a proper, grown up electoral system like the rest of the civilised world (obviously the US doesn't count), we'd be seeing a left-wing coalition in power today. Oh, and every year now that the Kippers have disintegrated.
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How did Labour under Corbyn do?
Well, there was the biggest swing in vote since 1945.
The Sainted Tony Blair (in his own imagination) earned an 8.8% swing to Labour from 1992. Corbyn earned a 9.5% swing yesterday. Completely unheard of in British politics since 1945, yet the usual right-wing loons are claiming he should resign.
Also, anybody who seriously believes May called this election to 'give her a mandate' should be wearing a big red nose, spinning bow tie, and comically baggy trousers because they are obviously not in the right job.
Typically, of course, our flipping stupid electoral system takes the biscuit. The Tories got 5% more votes than Labour but 21% more seats. Much, much more than they deserve and for all their bluster, they know just how lucky they have been. They deserved less than 300 seats.
If only we had a proper, grown up electoral system like the rest of the civilised world (obviously the US doesn't count), we'd be seeing a left-wing coalition in power today. Oh, and every year now that the Kippers have disintegrated.
Corbyn did better than expected but the fact is he was still 60 seats lower than the torys this election was about how poor May was, not how good Corbyn is. But all considered if I was a Labour voter🤢 I'd probably want him to stay.
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She did have a choice. She could have put country before self and party but she didn't. Nobody else to play with in the face of a massive rejection from the British public, so she chose to save her her own skin and get into bed with the DUP. Desperate stuff. Still, it will only endure a couple of months before falling apart....
So if she didn't get into bed with the DUP how many party's would of had to get into labours bed? Now that would be coalition of chaos. Anyway I think the DUP will drag the Torys back to the right were they should be away from the stench of Blairism. Could be a really good thing....people will come back 🙂
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What, you mean back towards things like anti abortion, anti same sex partnerships, religious fanaticism? Good progressive modern politics - just what Britain needs eh. Grim, you should watch that Jonathan Pie link I posted.
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So if she didn't get into bed with the DUP how many party's would of had to get into labours bed? Now that would be coalition of chaos.
Anyway I think the DUP will drag the Torys back to the right were they should be away from the stench of Blairism. Could be a really good thing....people will come back 🙂
Nonsense. The country doesn't want politics further to the right. If they did, all of the millions who abandoned UKIP would have voted Tory but they didn't. Nothing like all of them.
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What, you mean back towards things like anti abortion, anti same sex partnerships, religious fanaticism?
You have just described Labours core vote 😂
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Good progressive modern politics - just what Britain needs eh. Grim, you should watch that Jonathan Pie link I posted.
The man is a clown who's thinks he's some kind of comedienne, just another Labour dummy spitter who can't handle Democracy... will agree with him that New Labour is now finished and once the conservatives have sorted themselves and shifted right the country will finally have clear choice so all is not lost.
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Nonsense. The country doesn't want politics further to the right. If they did, all of the millions who abandoned UKIP would have voted Tory but they didn't. Nothing like all of them.
Eh... no just proves there was millions of Labour voters that wanted us out of the EU.
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Is it only this country that comes out and says the winners were losers and the losers were winners ?
I think we all lost and a no deal on brexit looms imo,
Someone on question time said last night, " why don't all parties get together and get the best deal for the UK then have another election in 2 years after brexit has been finalised "
That's far too sensible but wouldn't it be great if that happened ?
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Eh... no just proves there was millions of Labour voters that wanted us out of the EU.
Yep and once they'd achieved that they went back to their interests in improvements in the lot of the working class-something the Tories totally failed to communicate.
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To be fair Maringer, Labour had an opportunity to change the voting system back in the late 90s (and were even in talks with the Paddy Pantsdown about it) but once they got elected with a landslide they suddenly decided it was't a priority.
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