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Maringer
March 22, 2017, 3:49pm
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I get the feeling you'd have to almost build your team and style of play around Vose to get the best out of him. Is he good enough to make this worthwhile?

Not so sure myself. He wouldn't be the first player with bags of ability to fail to make much of a mark in the game.
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HertsGTFC
March 22, 2017, 4:29pm

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I think Vose has real talent and think we should try and sign him, I assume he's got a fair amount of Scunts contract left to run? I am sure they would ask a decent fee for him


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March 22, 2017, 4:29pm
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You have to look at vose in real football context
1) can he see a pass
2) can he beat a man
3) can he retain possession and keep us on the front foot
4)does he have a football brain
5) does he excite when on the ball and does anticipation rise (crowd pleaser )
Negative !!
1) not the best in a tackle ( because  I believe he's trying to nick it rather than go through a player )
2 ) poor arielly
3) not the fastest
So would you want 11 grafters summerfield types or someone who's going to make you feel that's what I pay my monies for !!!
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March 22, 2017, 5:32pm

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Quoted from Pastandpresent
You have to look at vose in real football context
1) can he see a pass
2) can he beat a man
3) can he retain possession and keep us on the front foot
4)does he have a football brain
5) does he excite when on the ball and does anticipation rise (crowd pleaser )
Negative !!
1) not the best in a tackle ( because  I believe he's trying to nick it rather than go through a player )
2 ) poor arielly
3) not the fastest
So would you want 11 grafters summerfield types or someone who's going to make you feel that's what I pay my monies for !!!


Bit in bold always works for me.


"Crombie you would have got to that if you weren't such a fat ba%$@rd" - George Kerr, inspiration from the dug out 70s style  
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jimgtfc
March 22, 2017, 5:40pm
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Vose is only 23, so room for development and MB has a good record for that.


"Falls to Arnold... Arnold! That's it! Thats it! He's sealed it! Grimsby Town are back in the football league!!! Just a minute to go and Nathan Arnold makes it 3-1! Look at the scenes behind the goal! Look at the relief! The agony is finally over!!!"

John Tondeur - Wembley Stadium Sunday 15th May 2016
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March 22, 2017, 8:50pm
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I think Vose is reaching an absolutely pivotal point in his career where it is make or break as a football league player.


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March 22, 2017, 9:57pm
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Only in England would you say at 23-25 your at a pivotal stage of your career , vose might not get it till 27
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Think we need to be a bit more ruthless

KEEP - 12

Pearson - Solid, dependable and should be made captain
Sam Jones - Will be quality next term
Osbourne - Will be quality next term
Andrew - solid
Collins - solid
Gunning - think will improve
Mills - think will improve
Asante - think will improve
Yussef - useful squad player
Clements - useful squad player
Bolarinwa - Was torn but think may improve in second season
Rhys Browne - Think he deserves a chance if he happy to come back

RELEASE - 14

McKeown - Thanks for the service but prone to too many errors
Davies - Recent performances have sadly shown we cant get a consistent/full season from him at his age
Gowling - Too old and inconsistent at this level
Disley - Too old and inconsistent at this level. Love ya though Dis
Chambers - Seems out of favour with Bignot and not direct enough for me
McAllister - Seems out of favour with Bignot and too injury prone
Vernon -  Simply not good enough for this level
Summerfield - Simply not good enough for this level
Berrett - Simply not good enough for this level
Boyce - Simply not good enough for this level
Dan Jones - Simply not good enough for this level
Venney - Sadly never gonna make 1st team
Clifton - Sadly never gonna make 1st team
Wright - Sadly never gonna make 1st team

RETURN TO CLUBS:

Comley - Although would like to him back
Dyson - Although would like to him back
Maxwell - Not seen enough to believe he will improve us next season
Vose - Has talent but too inconsistent, not sure how he fits in system or team

Hope I haven't missed anyone out


WE WOULD NEED: 7

• Quality Keeper
• Another Full Back
• Pair of Wingers
• A quality centre midfield general
• An ankle biting central midfielder
• Goalscoring Striker/Poacher

• Target Man
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March 23, 2017, 12:37pm

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Quoted from Stew0_0
Think we need to be a bit more ruthless

KEEP - 12

Pearson - Solid, dependable and should be made captain
Sam Jones - Will be quality next term
Osbourne - Will be quality next term
Andrew - solid
Collins - solid
Gunning - think will improve
Mills - think will improve
Asante - think will improve
Yussef - useful squad player
Clements - useful squad player
Bolarinwa - Was torn but think may improve in second season
Rhys Browne - Think he deserves a chance if he happy to come back

RELEASE - 14

McKeown - Thanks for the service but prone to too many errors
Davies - Recent performances have sadly shown we cant get a consistent/full season from him at his age
Gowling - Too old and inconsistent at this level
Disley - Too old and inconsistent at this level. Love ya though Dis
Chambers - Seems out of favour with Bignot and not direct enough for me
McAllister - Seems out of favour with Bignot and too injury prone
Vernon -  Simply not good enough for this level
Summerfield - Simply not good enough for this level
Berrett - Simply not good enough for this level
Boyce - Simply not good enough for this level
Dan Jones - Simply not good enough for this level
Venney - Sadly never gonna make 1st team
Clifton - Sadly never gonna make 1st team
Wright - Sadly never gonna make 1st team

RETURN TO CLUBS:

Comley - Although would like to him back
Dyson - Although would like to him back
Maxwell - Not seen enough to believe he will improve us next season
Vose - Has talent but too inconsistent, not sure how he fits in system or team

Hope I haven't missed anyone out


WE WOULD NEED: 7

• Quality Keeper
• Another Full Back
• Pair of Wingers
• A quality centre midfield general
• An ankle biting central midfielder
• Goalscoring Striker/Poacher

• Target Man


I don't disagree with most of what you said but I don't think is as simple as "release" for the likes of Macca, Summerfield, Berret, Vernon and Boyce as they still have a year left and paying off all 4 would be a stupid waste of money. As stated I would keep Vose and it's impossible to assess Dan Jones IMHO as we have not seen anything of him but Marcus says he's "important for next season". I think there will be lots of comings and goings though for sure.  


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March 23, 2017, 1:42pm
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Quoted from Stew0_0
Think we need to be a bit more ruthless

KEEP - 12

Pearson - Solid, dependable and should be made captain
Sam Jones - Will be quality next term
Osbourne - Will be quality next term
Andrew - solid
Collins - solid
Gunning - think will improve
Mills - think will improve
Asante - think will improve
Yussef - useful squad player
Clements - useful squad player
Bolarinwa - Was torn but think may improve in second season
Rhys Browne - Think he deserves a chance if he happy to come back

RELEASE - 14

McKeown - Thanks for the service but prone to too many errors
Davies - Recent performances have sadly shown we cant get a consistent/full season from him at his age
Gowling - Too old and inconsistent at this level
Disley - Too old and inconsistent at this level. Love ya though Dis
Chambers - Seems out of favour with Bignot and not direct enough for me
McAllister - Seems out of favour with Bignot and too injury prone
Vernon -  Simply not good enough for this level
Summerfield - Simply not good enough for this level
Berrett - Simply not good enough for this level
Boyce - Simply not good enough for this level
Dan Jones - Simply not good enough for this level
Venney - Sadly never gonna make 1st team
Clifton - Sadly never gonna make 1st team
Wright - Sadly never gonna make 1st team

RETURN TO CLUBS:

Comley - Although would like to him back
Dyson - Although would like to him back
Maxwell - Not seen enough to believe he will improve us next season
Vose - Has talent but too inconsistent, not sure how he fits in system or team

Hope I haven't missed anyone out


WE WOULD NEED: 7

• Quality Keeper
• Another Full Back
• Pair of Wingers
• A quality centre midfield general
• An ankle biting central midfielder
• Goalscoring Striker/Poacher

• Target Man


You'd keep 12 then only sign 7? Leaving us with a squad of 19?! We'd only need two injuries or suspensions and we wouldn't even have a full match day squad at that rate. Are you mad?! Plus you've gone with 3 centre backs, one of whom will be in their late thirties.
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