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I get the feeling you'd have to almost build your team and style of play around Vose to get the best out of him. Is he good enough to make this worthwhile?
Not so sure myself. He wouldn't be the first player with bags of ability to fail to make much of a mark in the game.
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I think Vose has real talent and think we should try and sign him, I assume he's got a fair amount of Scunts contract left to run? I am sure they would ask a decent fee for him
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You have to look at vose in real football context 1) can he see a pass 2) can he beat a man 3) can he retain possession and keep us on the front foot 4)does he have a football brain 5) does he excite when on the ball and does anticipation rise (crowd pleaser ) Negative !! 1) not the best in a tackle ( because I believe he's trying to nick it rather than go through a player ) 2 ) poor arielly 3) not the fastest So would you want 11 grafters summerfield types or someone who's going to make you feel that's what I pay my monies for !!!
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You have to look at vose in real football context 1) can he see a pass 2) can he beat a man 3) can he retain possession and keep us on the front foot 4)does he have a football brain 5) does he excite when on the ball and does anticipation rise (crowd pleaser ) Negative !! 1) not the best in a tackle ( because I believe he's trying to nick it rather than go through a player ) 2 ) poor arielly 3) not the fastest So would you want 11 grafters summerfield types or someone who's going to make you feel that's what I pay my monies for !!!
Bit in bold always works for me.
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Vose is only 23, so room for development and MB has a good record for that.
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I think Vose is reaching an absolutely pivotal point in his career where it is make or break as a football league player.
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Only in England would you say at 23-25 your at a pivotal stage of your career , vose might not get it till 27
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Think we need to be a bit more ruthless
KEEP - 12
Pearson - Solid, dependable and should be made captain Sam Jones - Will be quality next term Osbourne - Will be quality next term Andrew - solid Collins - solid Gunning - think will improve Mills - think will improve Asante - think will improve Yussef - useful squad player Clements - useful squad player Bolarinwa - Was torn but think may improve in second season Rhys Browne - Think he deserves a chance if he happy to come back
RELEASE - 14
McKeown - Thanks for the service but prone to too many errors Davies - Recent performances have sadly shown we cant get a consistent/full season from him at his age Gowling - Too old and inconsistent at this level Disley - Too old and inconsistent at this level. Love ya though Dis Chambers - Seems out of favour with Bignot and not direct enough for me McAllister - Seems out of favour with Bignot and too injury prone Vernon - Simply not good enough for this level Summerfield - Simply not good enough for this level Berrett - Simply not good enough for this level Boyce - Simply not good enough for this level Dan Jones - Simply not good enough for this level Venney - Sadly never gonna make 1st team Clifton - Sadly never gonna make 1st team Wright - Sadly never gonna make 1st team
RETURN TO CLUBS:
Comley - Although would like to him back Dyson - Although would like to him back Maxwell - Not seen enough to believe he will improve us next season Vose - Has talent but too inconsistent, not sure how he fits in system or team
Hope I haven't missed anyone out
WE WOULD NEED: 7
• Quality Keeper • Another Full Back • Pair of Wingers • A quality centre midfield general • An ankle biting central midfielder • Goalscoring Striker/Poacher • Target Man
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Think we need to be a bit more ruthless
KEEP - 12
Pearson - Solid, dependable and should be made captain Sam Jones - Will be quality next term Osbourne - Will be quality next term Andrew - solid Collins - solid Gunning - think will improve Mills - think will improve Asante - think will improve Yussef - useful squad player Clements - useful squad player Bolarinwa - Was torn but think may improve in second season Rhys Browne - Think he deserves a chance if he happy to come back
RELEASE - 14
McKeown - Thanks for the service but prone to too many errors Davies - Recent performances have sadly shown we cant get a consistent/full season from him at his age Gowling - Too old and inconsistent at this level Disley - Too old and inconsistent at this level. Love ya though Dis Chambers - Seems out of favour with Bignot and not direct enough for me McAllister - Seems out of favour with Bignot and too injury prone Vernon - Simply not good enough for this level Summerfield - Simply not good enough for this level Berrett - Simply not good enough for this level Boyce - Simply not good enough for this level Dan Jones - Simply not good enough for this level Venney - Sadly never gonna make 1st team Clifton - Sadly never gonna make 1st team Wright - Sadly never gonna make 1st team
RETURN TO CLUBS:
Comley - Although would like to him back Dyson - Although would like to him back Maxwell - Not seen enough to believe he will improve us next season Vose - Has talent but too inconsistent, not sure how he fits in system or team
Hope I haven't missed anyone out
WE WOULD NEED: 7
• Quality Keeper • Another Full Back • Pair of Wingers • A quality centre midfield general • An ankle biting central midfielder • Goalscoring Striker/Poacher • Target Man
I don't disagree with most of what you said but I don't think is as simple as "release" for the likes of Macca, Summerfield, Berret, Vernon and Boyce as they still have a year left and paying off all 4 would be a stupid waste of money. As stated I would keep Vose and it's impossible to assess Dan Jones IMHO as we have not seen anything of him but Marcus says he's "important for next season". I think there will be lots of comings and goings though for sure.
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Think we need to be a bit more ruthless
KEEP - 12
Pearson - Solid, dependable and should be made captain Sam Jones - Will be quality next term Osbourne - Will be quality next term Andrew - solid Collins - solid Gunning - think will improve Mills - think will improve Asante - think will improve Yussef - useful squad player Clements - useful squad player Bolarinwa - Was torn but think may improve in second season Rhys Browne - Think he deserves a chance if he happy to come back
RELEASE - 14
McKeown - Thanks for the service but prone to too many errors Davies - Recent performances have sadly shown we cant get a consistent/full season from him at his age Gowling - Too old and inconsistent at this level Disley - Too old and inconsistent at this level. Love ya though Dis Chambers - Seems out of favour with Bignot and not direct enough for me McAllister - Seems out of favour with Bignot and too injury prone Vernon - Simply not good enough for this level Summerfield - Simply not good enough for this level Berrett - Simply not good enough for this level Boyce - Simply not good enough for this level Dan Jones - Simply not good enough for this level Venney - Sadly never gonna make 1st team Clifton - Sadly never gonna make 1st team Wright - Sadly never gonna make 1st team
RETURN TO CLUBS:
Comley - Although would like to him back Dyson - Although would like to him back Maxwell - Not seen enough to believe he will improve us next season Vose - Has talent but too inconsistent, not sure how he fits in system or team
Hope I haven't missed anyone out
WE WOULD NEED: 7
• Quality Keeper • Another Full Back • Pair of Wingers • A quality centre midfield general • An ankle biting central midfielder • Goalscoring Striker/Poacher • Target Man
You'd keep 12 then only sign 7? Leaving us with a squad of 19?! We'd only need two injuries or suspensions and we wouldn't even have a full match day squad at that rate. Are you mad?! Plus you've gone with 3 centre backs, one of whom will be in their late thirties.
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