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Bignot haa got some serious thinking to do. At Colchester under Hurst we were 3-0 down and he immediately changed it and brought on Pearson and Dis and unsurprisingly we improved and nearly got something. So Bignot leaves it. At 2-0 the game is still salvagable. Against a side with a recently awful record, get 2 banks of 4 and get to half time 2-0 and then take it from there. Yesterday after the early goal it seemed we went to pieces defensively with Andrew, as always when it comes to defending, was particularly atrocious.
I don't know if there's any truth in these rumours about players being unhappy but I would be surprised if it was the ones in the team.
And on top of all of that Hurst gets Shrewsbury to be the first team since 2015 to win at Scunny.
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https://youtu.be/AeISHcF1ySU I actually feel sorry for Marcus, the guy is passionate and the players let him down
Embarrassing....not so much MB but some of the "screamed" comments, all that was missing was torches and a creepy castle on a hill.....its a single game of football in a season....get a grip......we are supporters of a football team, loyal supporters, however i am not sure many of us have been either a full time professional footballer, a manager of a League or even Conference team or have the necessary qualifications, experience, C.V to be manager of GTFC. We all have differing opinions as we see on here and other social media outlets and not very often , if ever, do we all agree. MB was wrong to stand there and engage in such chat IMO,just acknowledge the support, mouth the word sorry and go sort the team out, speak to the radio and apologise to the supporters in a coherent way post match rather than try and engage 1-700 or however many were left by then.
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Embarrassing....not so much MB but some of the "screamed" comments, all that was missing was torches and a creepy castle on a hill.....its a single game of football in a season....get a grip......we are supporters of a football team, loyal supporters, however i am not sure many of us have been either a full time professional footballer, a manager of a League or even Conference team or have the necessary qualifications, experience, C.V to be manager of GTFC. We all have differing opinions as we see on here and other social media outlets and not very often , if ever, do we all agree.
MB was wrong to stand there and engage in such chat IMO,just acknowledge the support, mouth the word sorry and go sort the team out, speak to the radio and apologise to the supporters in a coherent way post match rather than try and engage 1-700 or however many were left by then.
He is trying too hard to be the opposite of the rather dour (but successful) Hurst. All his energies are needed on the training ground with the players. Like you say, better to leave the PR till he has time to consider all the options. I am surprised, very surprised really that he is finding it all so difficult. He was manager of Solihull for 6 years wasn't he? Not at the same level, but a good grounding nevertheless I would have thought.
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February 12, 2017, 2:44pm |
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I think we have to look at it in the long run, which was not easy on the train back yesterday. He has come in in a position were we were pretty much safe, with an outside shot at promotion. He's decided that he wants to stamp his mark on the team now, which could be beneficial at the beginning of next season when we will presumably have pretty much the same squad as now, whilst other teams have changed. I get that it can be argued that he didn't need to change the team like he has, but ultimately, what was to lose? I doubt anyone can believe the squad he inherited was capable of the form those in the playoffs are currently displaying. Therefore, in the short term there was always a big chance we'do suffer, but in the long term, it could be very beneficial.
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February 12, 2017, 3:13pm |
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Embarrassing....not so much MB but some of the "screamed" comments, all that was missing was torches and a creepy castle on a hill.....its a single game of football in a season....get a grip......we are supporters of a football team, loyal supporters, however i am not sure many of us have been either a full time professional footballer, a manager of a League or even Conference team or have the necessary qualifications, experience, C.V to be manager of GTFC. We all have differing opinions as we see on here and other social media outlets and not very often , if ever, do we all agree.
MB was wrong to stand there and engage in such chat IMO,just acknowledge the support, mouth the word sorry and go sort the team out, speak to the radio and apologise to the supporters in a coherent way post match rather than try and engage 1-700 or however many were left by then.
I fully agree with what your saying Moosey but we have been talking about "single games of football" and "bad days at the office" a lot recently. From what I have seen we have a very, very long way before we can be considered decent. Maybe Marcus will take us there maybe he won't I am not convinced either way TBH but people giving it the big un when he was stood there yesterday does not help,
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February 12, 2017, 5:56pm |
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I fully agree with what your saying Moosey but we have been talking about "single games of football" and "bad days at the office" a lot recently. From what I have seen we have a very, very long way before we can be considered decent. Maybe Marcus will take us there maybe he won't I am not convinced either way TBH but people giving it the big un when he was stood there yesterday does not help,
we have been talking about it for the last 4/5 seasons as well...is that MB's fault ? Hurst got us into lots of big game scenarios in his time and was ultimately succesful in just one of those and that took 5 seasons and god knows how many players. MB has been here weeks.
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February 12, 2017, 6:39pm |
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we have been talking about it for the last 4/5 seasons as well...is that MB's fault ? Hurst got us into lots of big game scenarios in his time and was ultimately succesful in just one of those and that took 5 seasons and god knows how many players. MB has been here weeks.
Not sure what relevance PH's record before 15/05/16 has on the predicament we find ourselves in now. I don't know for definite but I think MB possibly had more financial resource at his disposal for the window just gone than PH ever had.
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Not sure what relevance PH's record before 15/05/16 has on the predicament we find ourselves in now. I don't know for definite but I think MB possibly had more financial resource at his disposal for the window just gone than PH ever had.
referring back to Hursts period was to highlight that the MB has had minimal time to introduce and change a whole lot, not only on the player front where he inherited a rather odd squad but also in the back room which he is also building...Hurst complained about lack of coaching etc and was reportedly unhappy about that side of things....MB has started addressing that,.....personally i think he may have overdone it in the short period he has but i can certainly see why he felt tempted....not sure many of us would argue too strongly about the personnel heading out or reasons given for some of them. The quality of the ones coming in are yet to be proved, as is the suitability of the squad to his preferred system.....but he has managed to tempt players here which s something Hurst struggled with. MB's methods may not bear fruit for a season or two, we have been away for a considerable time and things have moved on, on and off the pitch, the whole club has to establish itself and acclimatise to this level...including ourselves as supporters.....we shouldnt expect play off finals, cup finals etc every season now.
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referring back to Hursts period was to highlight that the MB has had minimal time to introduce and change a whole lot, not only on the player front where he inherited a rather odd squad but also in the back room which he is also building...Hurst complained about lack of coaching etc and was reportedly unhappy about that side of things....MB has started addressing that,.....personally i think he may have overdone it in the short period he has but i can certainly see why he felt tempted....not sure many of us would argue too strongly about the personnel heading out or reasons given for some of them. The quality of the ones coming in are yet to be proved, as is the suitability of the squad to his preferred system.....but he has managed to tempt players here which s something Hurst struggled with. MB's methods may not bear fruit for a season or two, we have been away for a considerable time and things have moved on, on and off the pitch, the whole club has to establish itself and acclimatise to this level...including ourselves as supporters.....we shouldnt expect play off finals, cup finals etc every season now.
All good stuff above, completely see what your saying Moosey. What I do know is that MB is bursting to do a good job which will ultimately work well for him.
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