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Seen every game under Bignot so far and come to following conclusions
Squad overall improved in terms of individual players Bit like Les Dawson on the piano, all the notes in wrong order. No clear pattern of play or system which for a full time pro manager is worrying. Interviews are a car crash. Tonight he ran out of cliches and his own answer for the performance was they got blown away in first twenty minutes. No excrement. The question was why. .......he was unable to answer and actually buried is head in his hands as was lost.
My fear is that if we see that he is full of cliches and seems more concerned about courting favour with fans by blowing smoke up our arses, the players will quickly suss him out too.
I'm not going to Newport, cos today has sapped me for a week
Bignot...honeymoon over lad and time to turn the talk into some walk.
I feel a bit of a fraud posting on this thread as I could not go today but the above post made me think. At this stage I can't see where he has brought better in, its easy to pin point the inadequacies of Summerfield and Berret but I just can't see it maybe it's me, I'm sure he has brought in potential to be fair though. What I see is a "revolving door" at Cheapside, new style of play, new players, some popular players (with the fans and players) left out, too many signings that are "raw talent" and a number of fans who have been seduced by MB as he is "good copy" versus the last manager who was a miserable so and so but though he was miserable would not have embarrassed the club on air like MB and Macca did after Stevenage.. So from what I see the challenge MB faces is, - Replacing the top scorer - not his fault that BTW but it would always be on the "to do" list - Sorting a shape that fits with the players ability - Bedding in new players with FL league experience - Bedding in a lot of players with FA league experience, - Keeping what is still a big squad happy - Picking up the players after a hammering - One day on the training ground to fix the above before a long trip to a land where the s54g sheep - Reducing the wage bill - Keeping the majority of the fans on side So am I personally still behind him, yes! Despite the fact that the above would indicate that he has made his first league job harder than it might have been. Good luck to him, I think he needs a bit now. UTM!
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I didn't go today (thank god). I'm not a massive fan of wing backs but if he insists on playing this system then he needs to play Mills, Davies just doesn't have the pace or energy to play this role and he often looks completely exposed.
The whole thing makes the decision to let Chambers go even more bizarre. Have him and Tombola on the bench and at least there's an option to change it when it doesn't work. Think it may be a slog to the end of the season but think we'll be OK.
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February 11, 2017, 6:57pm |
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I feel a bit of a fraud posting on this thread as I could not go today but the above post made me think.
At this stage I can't see where he has brought better in, its easy to pin point the inadequacies of Summerfield and Berret but I just can't see it maybe it's me, I'm sure he has brought in potential to be fair though.
What I see is a "revolving door" at Cheapside, new style of play, new players, some popular players (with the fans and players) left out, too many signings that are "raw talent" and a number of fans who have been seduced by MB as he is "good copy" versus the last manager who was a miserable so and so but though he was miserable would not have embarrassed the club on air like MB and Macca did after Stevenage..
So from what I see the challenge MB faces is,
- Replacing the top scorer - not his fault that BTW but it would always be on the "to do" list - Sorting a shape that fits with the players ability - Bedding in new players with FL league experience - Bedding in a lot of players with FA league experience, - Keeping what is still a big squad happy - Picking up the players after a hammering - One day on the training ground to fix the above before a long trip to a land where the s54g sheep - Reducing the wage bill - Keeping the majority of the fans on side
So am I personally still behind him, yes! Despite the fact that the above would indicate that he has made his first league job harder than it might have been. Good luck to him, I think he needs a bit now.
UTM!
Come off it.. Spoilt comment and then the ear cupping in a cup final on national TV. They all have their moments under pressure (even the best of them) in their own individual way. They get away with murder if their team's winning and absolutely nothing after a defeat..
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HertsGTFC |
February 11, 2017, 7:24pm |
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Come off it.. Spoilt comment and then the ear cupping in a cup final on national TV.
They all have their moments under pressure in their own individual way. They get away with murder if their team's winning and absolutely nothing after a defeat..
Depends how you see it, spoilt comment was inappropriate definitely but after the sh1t he took at Halifax I am not sure I would not have responded. would you?? Omar used to cup his ears to anyone after scoring many players do but they seem to be allowed to get away with it? My point about Stevenage is that as the manager MB is the one (or should be) who gives the press/media permission to speak to players after a game the fact that Macca who clearly had an axe to grind was sent out was at best an error of judgement if not poor management control.
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February 11, 2017, 7:32pm |
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I feel a bit of a fraud posting on this thread as I could not go today but the above post made me think.
At this stage I can't see where he has brought better in, its easy to pin point the inadequacies of Summerfield and Berret but I just can't see it maybe it's me, I'm sure he has brought in potential to be fair though.
What I see is a "revolving door" at Cheapside, new style of play, new players, some popular players (with the fans and players) left out, too many signings that are "raw talent" and a number of fans who have been seduced by MB as he is "good copy" versus the last manager who was a miserable so and so but though he was miserable would not have embarrassed the club on air like MB and Macca did after Stevenage..
So from what I see the challenge MB faces is,
- Replacing the top scorer - not his fault that BTW but it would always be on the "to do" list - Sorting a shape that fits with the players ability - Bedding in new players with FL league experience - Bedding in a lot of players with FA league experience, - Keeping what is still a big squad happy - Picking up the players after a hammering - One day on the training ground to fix the above before a long trip to a land where the s54g sheep - Reducing the wage bill - Keeping the majority of the fans on side
So am I personally still behind him, yes! Despite the fact that the above would indicate that he has made his first league job harder than it might have been. Good luck to him, I think he needs a bit now.
UTM!
Let us be brutally honest. He has not brought any players bar one that are better than what we had. Different yes, but those that may be a tad better (Osborne?) could have been integrated into a settled team with minimum fuss had he taken stock. He obviously felt the need to get players in who he was more comfortable with, which is fair enough, but alarm bells started going off for me when he thought it necessary to do it mid season. He himself had to get used to managing in the football league; the team he inherited was doing pretty well and not many managers come in and get a well drilled and talented squad sitting in or just outside the play off positions. He had a great victory at Plymouth with Hurst's squad and it was all looking rosy but I guess the players got the vibes that he was going to get his own players in and morale takes a dip. We haven't played well in any of his home games (last week was a bit better) and nobody seems to know what he trying to achieve. We are now in a difficult position - we have a new team that presumably cost a fair bit in wages and signing on fees and such like, so it is up to the manager to make it work. Why he put himself under such pressure I am not sure, but my theory is that he has really wanted to become a Football League manager and he has tried too hard to make an immediate impact.
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February 11, 2017, 7:48pm |
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Did I just read that someone actually felt sorry for bignot ?
Made me laugh.
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Can't believe no one has mentioned Comley, he was a disgrace and showed no effort whatsoever.
Main issue seemed to be related with pace and no efforts to mark anyone even at set plays.
Wish the defence especially Pearson would stop shrugging their shoulders and blaming each other whenever something doesn't go right!
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Let us be brutally honest. He has not brought any players bar one that are better than what we had. Different yes, but those that may be a tad better (Osborne?) could have been integrated into a settled team with minimum fuss had he taken stock.
He obviously felt the need to get players in who he was more comfortable with, which is fair enough, but alarm bells started going off for me when he thought it necessary to do it mid season. He himself had to get used to managing in the football league; the team he inherited was doing pretty well and not many managers come in and get a well drilled and talented squad sitting in or just outside the play off positions.
He had a great victory at Plymouth with Hurst's squad and it was all looking rosy but I guess the players got the vibes that he was going to get his own players in and morale takes a dip.
We haven't played well in any of his home games (last week was a bit better) and nobody seems to know what he trying to achieve.
We are now in a difficult position - we have a new team that presumably cost a fair bit in wages and signing on fees and such like, so it is up to the manager to make it work. Why he put himself under such pressure I am not sure, but my theory is that he has really wanted to become a Football League manager and he has tried too hard to make an immediate impact.
Spot on summary.
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February 11, 2017, 8:15pm |
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Can't believe no one has mentioned Comley, he was a disgrace and showed no effort whatsoever.
Main issue seemed to be related with pace and no efforts to mark anyone even at set plays.
Wish the defence especially Pearson would stop shrugging their shoulders and blaming each other whenever something doesn't go right!
I mentioned him and got red x's. I have never rated him and today he was utter shite. To me he can't do anything very good and I bet QPR are paying his full wages
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Let us be brutally honest. He has not brought any players bar one that are better than what we had. Different yes, but those that may be a tad better (Osborne?) could have been integrated into a settled team with minimum fuss had he taken stock.
He obviously felt the need to get players in who he was more comfortable with, which is fair enough, but alarm bells started going off for me when he thought it necessary to do it mid season. He himself had to get used to managing in the football league; the team he inherited was doing pretty well and not many managers come in and get a well drilled and talented squad sitting in or just outside the play off positions.
He had a great victory at Plymouth with Hurst's squad and it was all looking rosy but I guess the players got the vibes that he was going to get his own players in and morale takes a dip.
We haven't played well in any of his home games (last week was a bit better) and nobody seems to know what he trying to achieve.
We are now in a difficult position - we have a new team that presumably cost a fair bit in wages and signing on fees and such like, so it is up to the manager to make it work. Why he put himself under such pressure I am not sure, but my theory is that he has really wanted to become a Football League manager and he has tried too hard to make an immediate impact.
I also think we are in a tricky position. Bignot is good at signing loads of players, he doesn't seem to be particularly clever at getting them to play. Mike Newell spent his time signing loads of players.
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