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Bristol Mariner
February 11, 2017, 4:59pm

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Left 4.15. Another £150 to watch Town today - playing down the middle with no width does not work. Long haul yes and I'll be there Tuesday.


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February 11, 2017, 5:24pm

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Stayed till the end, total horror show. Davies completely exposed on the right hand side from the off. Bignot failed to change it till the game was lost. Didn't like him keeping the players out at full time. He didn't set us up right. Have to say 5 flattered us, gunning should have been sent off for assault in the last minute, horrendous challenge from a total loose cannon.
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February 11, 2017, 5:34pm
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On the train now, cold, miserable and embarrassed (by the end).  Felt sorry for bignot in the end there, but he handled the situation well, and I actually felt more angry towards certain supporters by the end. Stop using the fact you paid for a ticket as a stick to beat the manager and players with, when it suites, it's embarrassing.

For the actual game, you can play any tactic you want, but if the players perform at that level, you won't stand a chance, no matter what. Davies played like a school kid first half, popping up in every position apart from the correct one, giving their number 11 the freedom of crewe. And boy did they capitalise. Comley literally offered no protection to the defense. I actually felt sorry for our centre backs who were left hopelessly exposed. Not sure you can really comment on our attack, the game was gone by the time dyson had a touch. What I will say though, I'd that after their first, I thought we looked good. And for 60 mins osbourne looked a class above.

Finally, I want to give a bit of praise for clements. Apparently, to those around me at least, he's become the scape goat. Out of all the players out there, clements was the one who held us together second half, keeping possession, closing down and fighting to the death. I felt sorry for him with some of the abuse he was getting.
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February 11, 2017, 5:39pm
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What a load of balderdash mariner93. My first away game since we dropped out of the league. Bignot and players deserved all the critism they got. This was woeful.
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February 11, 2017, 5:39pm

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On the train back now, just managed to stay till the end and sprint back to catch the train.

That was truly flipping awful. I think it is the worst game I have ever seen us play, we were awful defensively, Mckeown made a couple of decent saves to keep us in it, despite our 11 central midfielders we didn't have a midfield to speak of and up front the stirkers were so anonymous I didn't even realise that we had any.

You can try and break down tactics and things and over the next few days I am sure we shall, but all I can focus on is that we didn't have any fight on the pitch at all and Crewe, a team who hadn't won in 10 I think, looked like world beaters who could cut through us like a blowtorch through butter.

I think we should give Bignot time and am not meaning to make knee jerk reactions, but I don't get this plan, we are so narrow that teams look threatening against us no matter what, and yet we seem to carry no threat ourselves at all.

I hope that this team will develop into something better at some point but blimey they have set themselves a low bar to build on!
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February 11, 2017, 5:42pm

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On the train back now, just managed to stay till the end and sprint back to catch the train.

That was truly flipping awful. I think it is the worst game I have ever seen us play, we were awful defensively, Mckeown made a couple of decent saves to keep us in it, despite our 11 central midfielders we didn't have a midfield to speak of and up front the stirkers were so anonymous I didn't even realise that we had any.

You can try and break down tactics and things and over the next few days I am sure we shall, but all I can focus on is that we didn't have any fight on the pitch at all and Crewe, a team who hadn't won in 10 I think, looked like world beaters who could cut through us like a blowtorch through butter.

I think we should give Bignot time and am not meaning to make knee jerk reactions, but I don't get this plan, we are so narrow that teams look threatening against us no matter what, and yet we seem to carry no threat ourselves at all.

I hope that this team will develop into something better at some point but blimey they have set themselves a low bar to build on!


Have a safe trip home mate, try and have a pint it will make it all feel better


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February 11, 2017, 5:43pm
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Not to take anything away from Crewe but we gifted them that in the first 20 minutes, wrong team selection and then lack of quick changes cost us. After the 2nd Davies shouldof been off, out of position and out paced the entire first half. Andrews was just poor, he was in the right places but was just excrement.

Midfield none existant in the first half and no bite or fight from them at all left the 3 centre backs exposed. They created nothing and what they did feed to Vaccum and Yussif were scraps.

I thought Collins and Gunning while exposed played poorly in the first half they were cut through like butter and often found wrong side of their men. Pearson was the only one who could hold his head high out of the outfield players the poor bloke stood no chance he was always having to look after 3 positions at once and was always caught looking over his shoulder.

Macca like Pearson can hold his head high he made some great saves, conceded goals he could do little about and was hard done by 9 players in front of him butting in what felt like little to no effort.

Dyson and Yussif I can't decide if their performance was as bad as it looked or if it was more because they were feeding off scraps and the ref was giving them little to no protection as they were fouled time and time again.

2nd half, change of shape, no idea what the shape was, some strange subs made as there were worse players that stayed on then those that went off. Crewe let us play which made us look better then we were, Tombolla and Jones looked alright when they came on and Osbourne was able to play a little more. Asante looked  slow off the pace and lost half the time, but showed a couple of flashes.

Really wish I had saved my money what a waste.


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February 11, 2017, 5:45pm

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On the train now, cold, miserable and embarrassed (by the end).  Felt sorry for bignot in the end there, but he handled the situation well, and I actually felt more angry towards certain supporters by the end. Stop using the fact you paid for a ticket as a stick to beat the manager and players with, when it suites, it's embarrassing.

For the actual game, you can play any tactic you want, but if the players perform at that level, you won't stand a chance, no matter what. Davies played like a school kid first half, popping up in every position apart from the correct one, giving their number 11 the freedom of crewe. And boy did they capitalise. Comley literally offered no protection to the defense. I actually felt sorry for our centre backs who were left hopelessly exposed. Not sure you can really comment on our attack, the game was gone by the time dyson had a touch. What I will say though, I'd that after their first, I thought we looked good. And for 60 mins osbourne looked a class above.

Finally, I want to give a bit of praise for clements. Apparently, to those around me at least, he's become the scape goat. Out of all the players out there, clements was the one who held us together second half, keeping possession, closing down and fighting to the death. I felt sorry for him with some of the abuse he was getting.


Wow.
So are you saying that having paid a significant amount of money. ( some of which people give up other luxuries and some fans basics) to watch a game, they are not entitled to feel aggrieved.  Good luck to you and your band of happy clappers


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I jokingly remarked  'I don't know whether to spend it watching porn or watching football'
'you may as well spend it watching porn' she replied
That's understanding darling what makes you say that? I asked

She said 'Well you already know how to play football'  
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February 11, 2017, 5:46pm

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On the train now, cold, miserable and embarrassed (by the end).  Felt sorry for bignot in the end there, but he handled the situation well, and I actually felt more angry towards certain supporters by the end. Stop using the fact you paid for a ticket as a stick to beat the manager and players with, when it suites, it's embarrassing.

For the actual game, you can play any tactic you want, but if the players perform at that level, you won't stand a chance, no matter what. Davies played like a school kid first half, popping up in every position apart from the correct one, giving their number 11 the freedom of crewe. And boy did they capitalise. Comley literally offered no protection to the defense. I actually felt sorry for our centre backs who were left hopelessly exposed. Not sure you can really comment on our attack, the game was gone by the time dyson had a touch. What I will say though, I'd that after their first, I thought we looked good. And for 60 mins osbourne looked a class above.

Finally, I want to give a bit of praise for clements. Apparently, to those around me at least, he's become the scape goat. Out of all the players out there, clements was the one who held us together second half, keeping possession, closing down and fighting to the death. I felt sorry for him with some of the abuse he was getting.


Big call the one highlighted in bold mate, if you pay for a ticket usually your entitled to an opinion on the game you see whether or not it's positive or negative.


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February 11, 2017, 5:47pm
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Paying money doesn't give you the right to act like a helmet. I paid money too, but didn't feel the need to abuse our manager like some.
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