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Bradford Mariner
January 16, 2017, 9:12am
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Quoted from grimsby pete
I know I did not see the game yesterday,

BUT

I think our problem is the midfield that's why Marcus  played the formation he did,

If our bids for players are successful I think we will be winning more games,

So if we go with                                      Henderson

                         Davies or Mills      Gunning        Collins      Andrew

                                       Jones       Comley      Osbourne    Chambers

                                                                  Yasuff      Bogle

We have a more balance team and a very strong bench .  


100% agree that our problem is in midfield, it has been for the past 10 years. It's encouraging to see that MB seems to be the first manager we've had who recognises this.

However, I think you're being far too premature assuming these players will be signing for us, my info from a couple of weeks ago is that there is no chance Jones will be joining us.

You didn't mention Disley, is that idea now killed off since he returned to the team? I hope so, 'cos there's no way he's the answer. We need a midfield consisting of players with pace, energy, mobility and some with vision if possible.

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Pearson has to start in any team for me until he makes any errors or loses form, as far as I am concerned we looked more vulnerable second half without him, Vose has to start or at least make an appearance earlier in the game behind the two strikers, and daft as it may seem we missed the drive from midfield of Summerfield.


That what Marcus is hoping the likes of Osborne and Jones will bring to the team. Technical ability on the ball and that drive  from midfield. We need someone arriving mate in the box and picking up those second balls. What Disley used to do a couple of years ago!

Both Osbourne and Jones have terrific goal scoring records from midfield too.


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Henderson

Mills
Pearson
Collins
Andrew

New winger
Comley
New centre mid
New winger

Vose

Bogle


"Falls to Arnold... Arnold! That's it! Thats it! He's sealed it! Grimsby Town are back in the football league!!! Just a minute to go and Nathan Arnold makes it 3-1! Look at the scenes behind the goal! Look at the relief! The agony is finally over!!!"

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I think Gunning has a reputation as being able to play, on the basis of 45 minutes on Saturday he's massively behind the rest of the group in terms of fitness & condition.


I don't think fitness is an issue as he's pretty much played all season, I think that's just his style of play.

Aside from one incident where he mistimed a challenge and his man got away from him I actually thought he looked very good. A couple of his floated passes from deep over the top for Omar and Adi were superb. You can see he's a very confident, intelligent player and extremely comfortable with the ball at his feet to.  Once he got used to his fellow defenders and the system Marcus wants to play I think he'll prove to be a magnificent signing!


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I think from what we saw on Saturday  Gunning shows a fair bit of class. He distributed the ball pretty well and showed composure on and off the ball . Don't forget he hasn't been with his team mates more than a few days but got one or two passes through the channels to the forwards. He also went on one dribbling run and in the short time I have seen him he impressed me. I could easily see him in our midfield adding a bit of needed bite instead of having to watch opposing midfields just shrugging off our lightweights. If we get Bignots wants we will have a midfield other teams will fear-just get him to the required fitness and he will do for me. As for not making a tackle and anybody blaming him for their third goal look again at the replay and see what our other players are doing-absolute balderdash.
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I really hope we see some reinforcements this week, in particular centre midfield as this is by far our weakest area. Every single game I've seen this season, and in all competitions I've seen 23 so far this season, in all those 23 games, regardless of the score, regardless of opposition we have lost the midfield battle, even against Newport they edged us in central midfield

All our midfielders offer something, Disley offers an experienced calm head, maybe he's better in away games than home games, Comley covers a lot of ground and puts in a tackle, Summerfield for all his faults you can't argue he does offer some energy and again he covers a lot of ground, Berrett well I don't know what he offers, McAllister offers experience and know how (when fit)

but for all that none of them are physical, none of them offers an attacking threat, somebody to set the tempo of games, somebody to carry the ball forward and turn defence into attack.

I have noticed that off the ball we lack movement. When the defenders have the ball there is very little movement ahead of them, meaning they have to hoof it and hope for the best, even at throw ins, everybody is standing still, if we can add this midfielder (Osborne from Solihull from what I've heard ticks all the boxes" that would make us more of a threat in midfield and certainly offers a creative influence in there and hopefully he can inspire some movement off the ball.
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Quoted from Davec
I really hope we see some reinforcements this week, in particular centre midfield as this is by far our weakest area. Every single game I've seen this season, and in all competitions I've seen 23 so far this season, in all those 23 games, regardless of the score, regardless of opposition we have lost the midfield battle, even against Newport they edged us in central midfield

All our midfielders offer something, Disley offers an experienced calm head, maybe he's better in away games than home games, Comley covers a lot of ground and puts in a tackle, Summerfield for all his faults you can't argue he does offer some energy and again he covers a lot of ground, Berrett well I don't know what he offers, McAllister offers experience and know how (when fit)

but for all that none of them are physical, none of them offers an attacking threat, somebody to set the tempo of games, somebody to carry the ball forward and turn defence into attack.

I have noticed that off the ball we lack movement. When the defenders have the ball there is very little movement ahead of them, meaning they have to hoof it and hope for the best, even at throw ins, everybody is standing still, if we can add this midfielder (Osborne from Solihull from what I've heard ticks all the boxes" that would make us more of a threat in midfield and certainly offers a creative influence in there and hopefully he can inspire some movement off the ball.


disagree with that, our midfield is poor but all 23 is very OTT, we wouldnt beat a team 5-2 by having no midfield, our away wins at hard-to-go places have been helped by our midfield, but yes we do need something different as we lack any creativity at all
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Quoted from Garth
Pearson has to start in any team for me until he makes any errors or loses form, as far as I am concerned we looked more vulnerable second half without him, Vose has to start or at least make an appearance earlier in the game behind the two strikers, and daft as it may seem we missed the drive from midfield of Summerfield.


I thought a large part of that vulnerability came because of the sacrifice of Comley. Not that I'm advocating Pearson being dropped. He's been outstanding these past few games.


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I don't think fitness is an issue as he's pretty much played all season, I think that's just his style of play.

Aside from one incident where he mistimed a challenge and his man got away from him I actually thought he looked very good. A couple of his floated passes from deep over the top for Omar and Adi were superb. You can see he's a very confident, intelligent player and extremely comfortable with the ball at his feet to.  Once he got used to his fellow defenders and the system Marcus wants to play I think he'll prove to be a magnificent signing!


I think he'll be fine as long as he remembers his first priority is to stop the opposition scoring, I like that he can pass but would like it even more if there where more willing mid field players to take the ball from him.




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Our midfield is dogged enough but needs some flair Osborne would appear to offer this. McAllister, Comley and Osborne would be ideal of you ask me, sadly Dis looked off the pace on Saturday. Great servant but will be released at the end of the season probably.


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