Disgrace

Quoted from TheCodfather1966

There's very few times in my 40 plus years of supporting Town that I have felt ashamed  of my team but today sadly was one of those times.  We were gutless, clueless, hapless and a complete and utter shambles.  We had no tactics, no formation and clearly no idea.  We were terrified oF Exeter from start to finish, and the scoreline certainly did not flatter them, in fact it should have been more.

Bignot clearly has no idea about formations, tactics or anything else for that matter.  He rambles on about Solihull ( wish he was still there ) like he is still in charge of them.  Who cares that he did a bit of admin for them !!!  He is quite simply a YES man brought in by Fenty to say all the right things, and he is quickly becoming no more than a PR man for the club.  I don't think he will last long at this club, because he simply is not up to managing a club in the football league.  We were second best all over the park today and our players looked weak and unfit compared to their counterparts.  I expect the crowd to dip by a 1,000 next week, because who the hell is going to part with good money in freezing cold weather to watch that pitiful display.

Pure and utter rubbish, no more to be said.  Expect a wedge a red crosses but hey who cares, anyone that went today could not pick one positive aspect out of that display.

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Quoted from BottesfordMariner

Your'e entitled to your opinion fella.

But for me (and this is my opinion)  its another example of the over the top reactions I have come to expect on this forum after every single game. Occasionally  positive after a win when we are going to win the league and then how much we are the biggest load of shite after a defeat.

Anyone who was there today will know it was not good enough today. The manager knows it, the players know it and the fans know it. We offered very little threat going forward today. It was a bad day at the office. (though bear in mind we were playing the team with the best away record in league today..just a thought)

But we are still in mid table....nearer the play offs than relegation. After 6 years of non league i will take that right now. Today was bump in the road...there's been a few this year (as well as some good days) and no doubt there will be more along the way. Its not like we are bottom of the league and staring into the abyss. kinnel we could be in York City's position.

Bignot has made the step up to League 2 like most of the players. He has inherited a solid team but one he clearly feels he needs to improve so he can get them playing the way he wants. It's too soon to start demanding for the managers head on a stick.

Hopefully he can get another couple of new faces in during this window and no doubt he will have thoughts on players in and outs during the summer. Once he has put his mark on the squad that will be the time to review how we have progressed (or not) and how Bignot is doing.

Quoted from Grimal

I can pick a positive, Gunning looks an excellent aquisition judging on the 45 minutes he played.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Really? from where I sit we had a pretty good view of him and I am not sure what he added, he has a lot of work to do on fitness and is looking "chunky" to say the least. Also backed off the player for the 3rd goal when he should have put his foot in.  

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Really? from where I sit we had a pretty good view of him and I am not sure what he added, he has a lot of work to do on fitness and is looking "chunky" to say the least. Also backed off the player for the 3rd goal when he should have put his foot in.  

Quoted from Garth

What did Pearson do wrong first half, was he injured?

Quoted from golfer

He made one or two forages into midfield but had no-one to help him. The midfield just stood watching as though they were afraid to go into the opposing half. Andrew was obviously asked to play more as a winger but was only covered when Gunning came on. Andrew was often unmarked on the wing but non of the midfielders had the sense or skill to pass to him. Actually I could see Andrew making a better midfielder than any of our present crew. I think Gunning will make a vast improvement and feel he is a very clever signing

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Sounds about right t me, though one concern that I have is that Marcus has said openly that the current group is not strong enough how does that make you feel if you are part of that group?

Quoted from promotion plaice

It gives you a kick up the derriere and rightly so.

Quoted from acko338

I honestly feel that 6 or 7 players out there in the first half were afraid to accept passes with the sheer speed of Exeter's harassing tactics.

The amount of frantic passes across the field and back to Henderson was indcative of how well Exeter set out a game plan for the first 20 minutes and executed it brilliantly.

Yussuf found good space but often had three defenders surrounding him with "no shows" for his next pass.

Grimsby passing accuracy was abysmal - so many going behind players or straight into touch.

Exeter just seemed stronger, faster and more organised and the players had no answers to how they played  - just thought our guys should have put up a better fight of it !

Quoted from Grim74

He's right about the crowds though some of the kids there won't want to go again.

Quoted from BottesfordMariner

This would back up Bignots post match comments. He wants to play out from the back and keep possession.

Of course you need to have players who are able to do that. Hence Bignot bringing in Gunning and looking at other new faces. And if thats how teams know you play they will counter that with a high tempo pressing game. Exeter did it well yesterday (and Pompey did the same great job on us recently). It is a bit alien to the English game and you wonder how a traditional stopper centre half (and a good one) like Shaun Pearson fits into the long term plans.And i am not having a pop at Shauny. It is not an easy transition to change the way you play ..just ask Pep Guardiola...and he has £30-£40M players struggling to adapt...we are League 2.

Quoted from golfer

I agree with what you say but they also have to have spacial ability. When I played I knew where my team mates where before I got the ball and knew who to pass to when I received it. Surely they must have seen Andrew unmarked time and time again and have it in their mind to try to bring him into the game if they received the ball. Comley tried to do this but like the rest of the midfield took too long for his brain to come into sync. the fullback sees what is going to happen and if the pass is made he has time to cut it out. The other times they just can't be bothered to try to create something so take the easy option and pass backwards or sideways to give the responsibility to someone else. A lot of them don't seem to know how to do any thing different. I dare say it's a form of laziness. We all see how Bogle reacts when he gets frustrated-that's because  he wants to win. It seems to me that a lot of the others want the pay cheque but dont want to have to work for it

Quoted from golfer

I agree with what you say but they also have to have spacial ability. When I played I knew where my team mates where before I got the ball and knew who to pass to when I received it. Surely they must have seen Andrew unmarked time and time again and have it in their mind to try to bring him into the game if they received the ball. Comley tried to do this but like the rest of the midfield took too long for his brain to come into sync. the fullback sees what is going to happen and if the pass is made he has time to cut it out. The other times they just can't be bothered to try to create something so take the easy option and pass backwards or sideways to give the responsibility to someone else. A lot of them don't seem to know how to do any thing different. I dare say it's a form of laziness. We all see how Bogle reacts when he gets frustrated-that's because  he wants to win. It seems to me that a lot of the others want the pay cheque but dont want to have to work for it

Quoted from jonnyboy82

Marcus talks a good game and likes to have a laugh on his terms that is..

I worry about his tactical side of the game as we can't seem to look settled on a formation and he has had a fair few games to settle on one surely by now, ATM we are 3 5 2 which we have picked up some decent points with but is that really an attacking formation which lets be honest his words were he wants to play attacking football and entertain the fans , I haven't seen one game yet in which shows this.

I like him but he needs to come down off his perch a bit and stop thinking Grimsby is Solihull in which he was the big dog who made all the decisions , this is full time football in front of a Knowledgeable crowd who have seen both sides of it.

He needs time no doubt and in that we will see if he is as good as he thinks he is.

Quoted from TheCodfather1966

We are simply not good enough to play out from the back, we do not have the players to be able to do this.  Nothing wrong with trying to play some nice football higher up the park, but when the pressure is on we need to clear our lines brutally.  Also nothing wrong with a goal kick instead of a throw.  Bignot laughs about these issues and is very disrespectful to JT, who is a massive town, that will rub people up the wrong way straightaway.  I too am not a fan of David Burns , but to be fair to him, he would rip Bignot to bits in a post match display as woeful as the Exeter game.  You tend to get what you pay for in life, and in Bignot, yet again we have brought our manager out of fooball's Poundland.  Time will tell, but we look awful so far, and the more worrying aspect of all of this is that the entertainment and enjoyment has vanished from BP since MB took charge.  

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Quoted from TheCodfather1966

We are simply not good enough to play out from the back, we do not have the players to be able to do this.  Nothing wrong with trying to play some nice football higher up the park, but when the pressure is on we need to clear our lines brutally.  Also nothing wrong with a goal kick instead of a throw.  Bignot laughs about these issues and is very disrespectful to JT, who is a massive town, that will rub people up the wrong way straightaway.  I too am not a fan of David Burns , but to be fair to him, he would rip Bignot to bits in a post match display as woeful as the Exeter game.  You tend to get what you pay for in life, and in Bignot, yet again we have brought our manager out of fooball's Poundland.  Time will tell, but we look awful so far, and the more worrying aspect of all of this is that the [/b]entertainment and enjoyment has vanished from BP since MB took charge[b].  

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Quoted from The Yard Dog

Even under PH I can rarely remember our football being entertaining at BP.

I will wait and judge MB when he has assembled his squad.

This is a transition period, bound to be ups and downs on the way.

Hopefully better news on Wednesday which might change the mood on here.

Quoted from ginnywings

Council report on the new ground is on Wednesday isn't it?

Quoted from TheCodfather1966

We are simply not good enough to play out from the back, we do not have the players to be able to do this.  Nothing wrong with trying to play some nice football higher up the park, but when the pressure is on we need to clear our lines brutally.

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Quoted from TheCodfather1966

We are simply not good enough to play out from the back, we do not have the players to be able to do this.  Nothing wrong with trying to play some nice football higher up the park, but when the pressure is on we need to clear our lines brutally.  Also nothing wrong with a goal kick instead of a throw.  Bignot laughs about these issues and is very disrespectful to JT, who is a massive town, that will rub people up the wrong way straightaway.  I too am not a fan of David Burns , but to be fair to him, he would rip Bignot to bits in a post match display as woeful as the Exeter game. You tend to get what you pay for in life, and in Bignot, yet again we have brought our manager out of fooball's Poundland.  Time will tell, but we look awful so far, and the more worrying aspect of all of this is that the entertainment and enjoyment has vanished from BP since MB took charge.  

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Quoted from Kris2

Aren't they just having a meeting to decide when to have the meeting about the date for the council report?

Quoted from SteffiMariner

Only quoting this bit as the rest is even more balderdash, but clearing things brutally just invites pressure back on to the team. The playing out from the bag should mean we keep the ball and work our way up the field, not lump it forward for the opposition centre halves to get the ball, give it to their midfield and cause is problems.

Quoted from Kris2

Aren't they just having a meeting to decide when to have the meeting about the date for the council report?

Quoted from MidnightMariner

I believe Wednesday may be the day Osbourne /Asante deals are done..... According to some on SM message board ?
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Quoted from MidnightMariner

I believe Wednesday may be the day Osbourne /Asante deals are done..... According to some on SM message board ?
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Quoted from The Yard Dog

That's my understanding as well

Quoted from Garth

We are not good enough yet to be consistent with positive results, we were poor but gifted the best away form team in the league ATM two goals and took an age to get from our half into there`s.
We require a couple or three players of a different ilk to help out,  today apart,  our position in the league and results over Christmas suggest we are not far away from a decent team.