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I feel there are loads of contradictions going on at the moment.
We're not as good technically or physically as Exeter, yet tonight we're both on 36 points.
Our players need to step it up as we're not in the Conference any more - yet large majority of our squad have played many games in the FL, and we have bids for three players currently playing in the Conference.
We're capable of winning at Plymouth and Carlisle but losing at home to Exeter and Hartlepool.
Some of the fans say our players 'aren't good enough' but good enough for what? At the start of the season I'd have thought the large majority of us would've settled for mid-table potentially flirting with the play-offs.And right now they're good enough for that.
We're good enough for that - and if nothing else at least we're not where Cheltenham are.
I feel the frustration, I really do. I understand the anger of watching us offer nothing at home against a mid-table side. I get it.
But the truth of the matter is that we're a team in transition. We have a new manager trying to impart his ideas and his tactics on a bunch of players signed by a different person who wanted them to play a different way.
I'm hearing some fans say MB is out of his depth, but in his 11 games we've won 4, drawn 3 and lost 4, scored 15 and conceded 13 - and that includes a really tough run against some of this division's top sides.
That's not a bad start really, under the circumstances. I wouldn't say he's out of his depth.
I think we just need to take a bit of perspective here. MB got a small side promoted on an absolute shoestring. He led a bunch of average players to a league title. That says he has some tactical nous about him.
We win some, we lose some. MB does a good interview, then does a bad interview. This is all very symptomatic of an inconsistent side sitting in mid-table.
That's a far too sensible post. I'm as guilty as the next man of a knee-jerk reaction but today was the first time for a very long time that I've left early. I have one major issue. For a team with so many experienced players (Disley, Davies, Collins), why was our 19 year old goalkeeper having to try and stir a reaction? We truly looked short of leaders today, someone who was going to shake things up. |
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i thought jt spoke to mb in a different manner than he did to paul hurst ?
I think he gave up with Hurst ages ago. |
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| January 14, 2017, 10:24pm |
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I feel there are loads of contradictions going on at the moment.
We're not as good technically or physically as Exeter, yet tonight we're both on 36 points.
Our players need to step it up as we're not in the Conference any more - yet large majority of our squad have played many games in the FL, and we have bids for three players currently playing in the Conference.
We're capable of winning at Plymouth and Carlisle but losing at home to Exeter and Hartlepool.
Some of the fans say our players 'aren't good enough' but good enough for what? At the start of the season I'd have thought the large majority of us would've settled for mid-table potentially flirting with the play-offs
We're good enough for that - and if nothing else at least we're not where Cheltenham are.
I feel the frustration, I really do. I understand the anger of watching us offer nothing at home against a mid-table side. I get it.
But the truth of the matter is that we're a team in transition. We have a new manager trying to impart his ideas and his tactics on a bunch of players signed by a different person who wanted them to play a different way.
I'm hearing some fans say MB is out of his depth, but in his 11 games we've won 4, drawn 3 and lost 4, scored 15 and conceded 13 - and that includes a really tough run against some of this division's top sides.
That's not a bad start really, under the circumstances. I wouldn't say he's out of his depth.
I think we just need to take a bit of perspective here. MB got a small side promoted on an absolute shoestring. He led a bunch of average players to a league title. That says he has some tactical nous about him.
We win some, we lose some. MB does a good interview, then does a bad interview. This is all very symptomatic of an inconsistent side sitting in mid-table.
Good post mate. Also think Codger makes a good point about leadership. |
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| HotToddy |
| January 14, 2017, 10:28pm |
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All Bignot was saying was we ned to add some quality to take us to the next level. Spoke sense (at times)
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| KingstonMariner |
| January 14, 2017, 10:43pm |
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I feel there are loads of contradictions going on at the moment.
We're not as good technically or physically as Exeter, yet tonight we're both on 36 points.
Our players need to step it up as we're not in the Conference any more - yet large majority of our squad have played many games in the FL, and we have bids for three players currently playing in the Conference.
We're capable of winning at Plymouth and Carlisle but losing at home to Exeter and Hartlepool.
Some of the fans say our players 'aren't good enough' but good enough for what? At the start of the season I'd have thought the large majority of us would've settled for mid-table potentially flirting with the play-offs
We're good enough for that - and if nothing else at least we're not where Cheltenham are.
I feel the frustration, I really do. I understand the anger of watching us offer nothing at home against a mid-table side. I get it.
But the truth of the matter is that we're a team in transition. We have a new manager trying to impart his ideas and his tactics on a bunch of players signed by a different person who wanted them to play a different way.
I'm hearing some fans say MB is out of his depth, but in his 11 games we've won 4, drawn 3 and lost 4, scored 15 and conceded 13 - and that includes a really tough run against some of this division's top sides.
That's not a bad start really, under the circumstances. I wouldn't say he's out of his depth.
I think we just need to take a bit of perspective here. MB got a small side promoted on an absolute shoestring. He led a bunch of average players to a league title. That says he has some tactical nous about him.
We win some, we lose some. MB does a good interview, then does a bad interview. This is all very symptomatic of an inconsistent side sitting in mid-table.
Excellent post. |
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| Mrs Doyle |
| January 14, 2017, 11:01pm |
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"Listen"
I thought you took the urine out of J.T. who clearly sounded uncomfortable not very classy Mr B.
Sometimes you just have to hold your hand up and admit you got it wrong.
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| January 14, 2017, 11:08pm |
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Don't see what the fuss is about really. Bignot's clearly laughing and joking with it, not doing it in an aggressive or confrontational way.
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| moosey_club |
| January 14, 2017, 11:28pm |
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Don't see what the fuss is about really. Bignot's clearly laughing and joking with it, not doing it in an aggressive or confrontational way.
"i wont answer your question cos you didnt answer mine" .........Childish regardless of the way it was said. |
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I listened to the live interview and thought MB was a bit out of line......but I've just watched the video on Mariners Player and all the time Marcus has a big smile on his face. There is no malice in his talk with JT.
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I like his positivity but not his big balls know it all attitude after we have just been thumped 3-0 at home by trying to insist we lost because they were all more technically gifted than us when he leaves our most technically gifted player on the bench.
He needs to remember we are football fans who have seen decent football here even if it was years ago and we know a good team when we see it and although Exeter were decent we made them look like it by playing sideways passes all day.
He came from Solihull were he was the man and the big dog who did everything and was a big part of it but he has come to us were we are a club much bigger and seen bigger games and who have seen the likes of Buckley who talked a good game but also did it mostly on the pitch, I don't mind his ballsy attitude but I do mind when he tries to pull the wool over my eyes by insisting we haven't got the quality to compete with Exeter with who we have here right now, may i suggest you get a plan together first and ideas to the players and not say we lost because they had 10 men behind the ball.
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