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And cheap supermarket booze..



True. That and the overheads certainly did for the bigger places like Darleys. But there was still a market for the smaller more "intimate" pubs and that was hit hard by the smoking ban a) because a lot of them had nowhere decent to put any sort of smoking area and b) because people getting up and going outside ruined the atmosphere. It was stupid and class ridden because they knew it would affect the lower paid more than anyone but it was part of Blair's cafe/bistro culture that he wanted to see Essexwhitevanman doing.

At least it's good to see some small "own beer" places opening up but it's not the same as spit and sawdust and fagash on yer pork scratchings.



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Sorry but I have to dissaggree with you TRRFC, people's habits have changed. There is now a lot more things to do with our lessure time than there was 45 years ago when I started going in pubs. Back then it was the pub or pictures and that was it. It was also a male dominated past time with wives only going out at the weekend.

Nowadays  (God I feel old saying that!), it's a family orientated market, we now take the whole family out. Pubs that don't cater for families are the ones that struggle.

Pubs were struggling before the smoking ban came into force.
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I was a regular in the imp in the 80's growing up in the area, it was a fantastic pub with loads of characters. It was areal locals pub and for 25 ish times a year filled with town fans who mostly never used it apart from match days. It started to go down hill when they modernised it getting rid of the old town bar and tried to make it looking like a trendy 80's wine bar. It had three rooms of which only one has been open for years. Many landlords have come and gone and it didn't matter what they tried they struggled to get punters through the door. Lots of reason for the lack of punters not just the smoking ban the demise of the fishing industry, Dockers and lumpers losing their livelihoods even the lack of guys attending the flying club on Friday and Saturday nights.
As a public house it was finished years ago and making it into flats is better than just standing empty for years, becoming even more of an eyesore and possibly burnt to the ground.
I hope who ever have bought it makes it work, good luck you will need it.
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I miss being able to park my car there!  


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And where did i mention Race, colour or religeon? So you dont like Lincoln city? you bloody racist!


So not being racist or prejudiced against anyone on religious grounds, I take it you condemn the Twitter poster who spouted shite about Adi Yusuf then?


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So not being racist or prejudiced against anyone on religious grounds, I take it you condemn the Twitter poster who spouted shite about Adi Yusuf then?


It was a disgrace what the idiot put on Twitter.
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Sorry but I have to dissaggree with you TRRFC, people's habits have changed. There is now a lot more things to do with our lessure time than there was 45 years ago when I started going in pubs. Back then it was the pub or pictures and that was it. It was also a male dominated past time with wives only going out at the weekend.

Nowadays  (God I feel old saying that!), it's a family orientated market, we now take the whole family out. Pubs that don't cater for families are the ones that struggle.

Pubs were struggling before the smoking ban came into force.


They might have been struggling, I don't disagree. Over time, some would have changed tack as times changed, some would diversify. Most would have modernised to a degree. But my point is that this was one huge hammer blow that forced immediate change onto pubs without choice or time. It was NO SMOKING everywhere, that's what was wrong.

They are not pubs any more are they? They are different entities and yes, they attract a clientele if you like your drink and conversation interrupted by kids running all over the place. They lost all the old fogeys like me who would have continued to sit with a pint and put the world to rights with or without a ciggie, doing no-one any harm.  


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Quoted from mimma

Looks like it's the end for the Town fans pre match watering hole.

To be turned into flats.

Could the pub be kept and the upstairs turned into flats?  This would reduce the pubs overheads and make it more viable. Just a thought.


http://m.grimsbytelegraph.co.u.....33-detail/story.html


The rooms above the Imp should have been turned into flats decades ago and if the previous owners had any flexibility they would have developed catering / restaurant, and kids facilities they could have prospered.


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Shame, if we were able to redevelop BP it would make a great location for a social club like The Pilgrim Lounge at Boston or The Blues Club at Gainsborough, for example.

I always thought it would have been a great place for something like this. The upstairs could have been converted to a restaurant doing pie and peas or something on match days and other stuff through the week with a bar and that downstairs. You could have had a meeting room for the Trust and pool, darts, dominoes and snooker teams playing under the club's social club name in the local leagues. A focal point for Town fans pre-match and in the week (Internet Mariners could have used it for a post match pint with their opponents for example too) to gather. The admittedly idyllic business would be one of the ways the club can put back into the community by keeping it well kept and therefore maintaing a few people's jobs and a local for those living in the vicinity of the ground. Unfortunately, I haven't won the Euromillions but it'd have been on my agenda if I did.


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I take it that you are a smoker TRRFC. I have never smoked in my life. It' your choice.

I do not know of any smoker refusing to go to the pub simply because they have to go outside for a smoke. But I can tell you that pubs have become cleaner and healthier to people like me, and to families with young children who now frequent pubs more than they ever did before.

Is it really such a hardship?
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