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Mariner_09
October 25, 2016, 11:37am
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I need a break from doom and gloom, so let's reminisce about past glories.

Who are people's personal top 5 legends, don't necessarily have to have been great players or managers but people you liked, mine is pitiful.

Paul Hurst
Gary Jones
Lenell John Lewis
Craig Disley
Manny Panther (loved his name and comical footballing ability)


I've wasted my life in black and white, a pathetic act for a worthless cause
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1 Joe Waters
2 Joe Waters
3 Joe Waters
4 Joe Waters
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We're on our way back, we’ll was now on our way back to non league 👍🏻
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October 25, 2016, 11:52am

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Joe Waters
Alan Buckley
Craig Disley
John McDermott
Kevin Moore

and a few others.


When Leeds trainer Les Cocker was once told Norman Hunter had broken a leg, he asked: “Whose is it?”
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October 25, 2016, 11:55am
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and ....... Ron Rafferty


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In no order.....

Joe Waters
Bobby Cummings
Alan Buckley
Matt Tees
Paul Groves

To be honest we could have a lot more than this which just proves we are not "TIN POT"!


"Crombie you would have got to that if you weren't such a fat ba%$@rd" - George Kerr, inspiration from the dug out 70s style  
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Paul Groves


"Falls to Arnold... Arnold! That's it! Thats it! He's sealed it! Grimsby Town are back in the football league!!! Just a minute to go and Nathan Arnold makes it 3-1! Look at the scenes behind the goal! Look at the relief! The agony is finally over!!!"

John Tondeur - Wembley Stadium Sunday 15th May 2016
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Alan Buckley - So much good football
Gary Jones - Everything apart from pace
Dave Gilbert - The first player I loved
Paul Groves - The best English player to never play in the top division
Liam Hearn - The player who made my son a town fan


Grim Outlook exile
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October 25, 2016, 12:16pm

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"Lovelly stuff! not my words but the words of Shakin Stevens."
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Clive mendonca John McDermott   Paul groves Gary child's            Tony ford              Dave Gilbert
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October 25, 2016, 12:29pm
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Very hard to choose but .......

Alan Buckley
Wayne Burnett
John McDermott
Matt Tees
Joe Waters

Nigel Batch just misses out!
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October 25, 2016, 12:41pm

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macca
Jevvo for that goal
Paul Groves
gary Jones
Disley
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October 25, 2016, 12:43pm

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All of those mentioned plus Birtles, Coyne, Wymark and Futcher(Snr)
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October 25, 2016, 12:47pm

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Ron Rafferty

Matt Tees

Bobby Cumming

Sir  Alan

Macca ( the 1st )  


                             Over 36 years living in Suffolk but always a mariner.
                             68 Years following the Town

                              Life member of Trust

                               First game   April 1955
                               
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October 25, 2016, 1:00pm

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Danny Coyne
Paul Groves
John McDermott
Wayne Burnett
Peter Handyside


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October 25, 2016, 1:14pm
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Sir Buckley
John McDermott
Micheal Reddy
Paul Bolland
Gary Jones


I don't mind Roy Keane making £60,000 a week. I was making the same when I was playing. The only difference was I was printing my own - Mickey Thomas

The area you are trying to protect at corners is the goal - Chris Kamara

I once said Gazza's IQ was less than his shirt number and he asked me: What's an IQ? - George Best
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October 25, 2016, 2:10pm
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Buckley
Tees
Waters
Drinkell
Groves

So many more deserve to be mentioned in despatches though. Any of McDermott, Mendonca, Gilbert, Burnett, Ford could easily make the list. Teams from 71-2, 78-80, 88-2000 figure strongly.

A non-League legends list:

Disley
Podge
Macca
Pearson (probably epitomises the best of the new spirit)
Hearn

Plus Arnold, Bogle,


Through the door there came familiar laughter,
I saw your face and heard you call my name.
Oh my friend we're older but no wiser,
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
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October 25, 2016, 2:18pm
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Buckley
Bonetti
Mendonca
Hurst
Disley

I think.


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October 25, 2016, 2:34pm

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Gary Lump
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Alan Connell
Abdul


JESUS AT THE CENTRE
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October 25, 2016, 2:49pm

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Don o'riordan
Paul Futcher
Clive Mendonca
Ivan's Bonneti
Chima Okorie (just for THAT goal)


He’s one of our loans
He’s one of our loans
Harvey Cartwright
He’s one of our loans
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October 25, 2016, 3:07pm

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Ivano Bonetti
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Livvo


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October 25, 2016, 3:25pm
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Paul Groves
Toto
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October 25, 2016, 3:51pm
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Joe Waters
Bob Cumming
Super Clive
Kev Moore
John McDermott

for non-footy reasons, honourable mentions to Tony Gallonmore and Mark (Plug) Lever
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October 25, 2016, 3:54pm
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Serial thread killer.
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Matt Tees

Bobby Cumming

Joe Waters

Kevin Moore

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No attempt at ethical or social seduction can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred of the Tory party. So far as I'm concerned they're lower than vermin. Aneurin Bevan.
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October 25, 2016, 4:24pm
Super Clive mendonca how much would he cost now
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Mendonca oster bonetti Donovan McDermott


ALL TOWN AREN'T WE ⚫️⚪️
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I'll give my age away--     Ron Rafferty
                                      Jonny Scott
                                       Jimmy Fell
                                        Duncan Welbourne
                                         Charlie Wright

                                    
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Waters

And plenty of others that could be in there.
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Super Wayne - 'THAT' Goal

Super Kev - 'THAT' Goal

Jevo - 'THAT' Goal

Super Jack loads of Goals

John Macca


Stand Up For The Mariners!!!!!
Stand Up For The Mariners!!!!!
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Quoted from Mariner Timsky
Super Wayne - 'THAT' Goal

Super Kev - 'THAT' Goal

Jevo - 'THAT' Goal

Super Jack loads of Goals

John Macca 'THAT' goal at Cambridge c 2006




Through the door there came familiar laughter,
I saw your face and heard you call my name.
Oh my friend we're older but no wiser,
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
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Tees
Macca
Cumming
Groves
Waters

(In order, with Matt Tees my first choice Town Legend).
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Bobby Cumming
Joe waters
Trevor Whymark
Ivano Bonetti
Garry Birtles
Managed by Sir Alan
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Groves
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October 25, 2016, 9:46pm
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Alan Buckley.
Matt Tees.
Kev Drinkell
Tony Ford
Paul Groves.

To be honest there are a lot more who have graced Blundell Park but these are the first that came to mind.
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This is ace, just wish I'd been here to see the good times but provided me with some light relief from the actual genuine seriousness of the current situation


I've wasted my life in black and white, a pathetic act for a worthless cause
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Michael Boulding
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Neil Woods (as a player!)
Garry Birtles

These were players growing up that had the most impression on me and playing football with mates I wanted to be one of them!!
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All the 79-80 team
All the 98 Double winners team
Buckley
Pouton
Super Clive
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Mat tees.
Kev drinks.
Kev Moore.
Tony ford.
Joe waters.
Trevor wymark.
John newman for having the balls to play all the young local lads.
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Quoted from Mariner_09
This is ace, just wish I'd been here to see the good times but provided me with some light relief from the actual genuine seriousness of the current situation


It's easy for us older fans to forget that you young 'uns have never seen truly great football at BP. I hope you one day get to witness players of the calibre of some of those mentioned and how fantastic a great side can be when they click.

Something like this:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMMLnLoVcB8

The third goal epitomises the Buckley era in a nutshell.
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October 26, 2016, 3:25pm
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POUTON
MACCA
ROB JONES
DANNY COYNE
CRAIG DISLEY
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Bobby C
Kev Moore
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Nigel Batch
Showing my age
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