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arryarryarry
September 18, 2016, 9:04pm
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I agree that Crewe were very well organised and played the ball on the ground with confidence but for the gift of a goal in 1st half injury time and the mix up for the second goal with failing to clear the ball then a draw could have been on the cards. Having said that I think that Town didn't play that well but they were not total rubbish.

I thought to myself on the way home that it was a bit of a reality check and then read later that others felt the same. We won the 1st game, then lost three on the trot before the good form in the last three. Many, including myself, were feeling a little more comfortable. This game shows that you have to be on the 'ball' all the time and not to expect things to happen. Just feel, like many, if the defence could tighten up so that we don't have to score so many goals to get anything out of the game would be a big step forward.


Have there been many that said we were "total rubbish"? I said it was the poorest we have played and Paul Hurst said the same.

As for the defence, I feel we are tightening up, yes the second goal was sloppy but I felt there was a foul on Summerfield when the first cross came in, as for the first you can't blame the defence when we give away sloppy passes like that in the middle of the park.
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September 18, 2016, 9:41pm
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I honestly believed Hursty's plan vis a vis the centre halves was to re-sign Toto and then sign someone else to play alongside him. Therefore Hursty has had to make do with a partnership that wasn't first choice in the Conference. Gowling had played ok yesterday until that mindless handball which he got away with. I suspect Collins will come in for him because despite his lack of footballing ability and mobility Pearson has looked much more comfortable than Gowling. I predicted yesterday as we were going along too nicely and I think the recent publicity got to Omar's head so hopefully yesterday acted as a wake up call to him as well. Hoping McAllister will be fit next week, Comley looks capable but I thought he too often pressed the ball and sold himself too easily maybe McAllister next to him and Omar up front by himself will help everybody. I thought Tuton was good at Notts County but quite poor yesterday. He was always offside and got himself aerated after the non penalty all this culminated in him being substituted.

However, having studied him more closely, Andrew seems increasingly suspect to me, gets caught of position and loses his man too regularly and also plays lots of aimless cross field balls. Looks like a Conference player.

I thought Vose looked pretty on the ball but lacked quality in the final third and too often seemed to forget how to pass. Chambers was our most effective out field player yesterday he had a bit of quality and ran at his man causing a small amoung of indecision every now and then.

McKeown, I'm not sure where this criticism is cominh from, he kept us in it for periods, he also controlled his area better and saved a penalty, two things he's been correctly critised for in the past in my opinion. We'd struggle to find better at this level with a non ridiculous budget.

Summerfield was poor, he couldn't pass wind and could easily have given special gift wrap on more occasions. Looked good in the past month but poor yesterday expecting better next week.

Tombola and Jackson looked lively and effective yesterday, Tombola even showed some willingness to beat a man and guile, something we lacked bar Chambers yesterday.

Davies was solid if unspectacular which is what I expected of him from the word go.

Thought Hursty gave a very honest and considered interview so he should expect a good response next week.

Crewe - good, organised side who has quality going forward when necessary too, wouldn't be surprised if they were promoted.


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September 19, 2016, 7:36am
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I felt that playing with a back four albeit Andrew nd Davies pushing forward may have worked. Maybe a 3-5-2 would of worked better with Collins,person and gowling. Andrew and Davies pushing forward a bit. I rate Tuton as a player however just wasn't quick enough against quick back line like there was on sat. Jackson would may have been a better choice than Tuton against quicker defence. Still an enjoyable game though. UTM
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September 19, 2016, 10:21am
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Crewe were as good as we'll see this season.  They came here and did a proper number on us.  More energy, better organised, effective use of the ball in possession and two very experienced league strikers who ripped our relatively inexperienced defence apart with their cute movement.

On the occasions they did lose possession and we tried to hit them on the break, they were back in formation and shape before we blinked.

Mistakes cost us but we never really looked like doing anything all game.  Penalty shout was a good one but I don't think we even deserved a goal, such was the gulf between the sides.

Biggest complaint was that we persisted with the ball over the top tactic for either Bogle or Tuton to chase onto.  Very obvious from the early minutes that their back four were more than quick enough to deal with that.  Yet our only variation to that was to include Chambers in options to chase down.  For me we never got Vose involved enough, he was the only player out there who was a little bit different to the out-and-out speed.  Would liked to have seen him brought further inside to hurt them with his creativity.   Bolinarwa made a a difference when he came on on because he ran at them rather than trying to chase loose balls down but he came on for the wrong man in my opinion.

Defensively we need to sharpen up quickly.  Gowling is having a nightmare at the minute and could have little complaint if his place is taken by Collins next week.  Weakest performance I've seen so far from Danny Andrew too, very under par.
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Crewe were as good as we'll see this season.  They came here and did a proper number on us.  More energy, better organised, effective use of the ball in possession and two very experienced league strikers who ripped our relatively inexperienced defence apart with their cute movement.

On the occasions they did lose possession and we tried to hit them on the break, they were back in formation and shape before we blinked.

Mistakes cost us but we never really looked like doing anything all game.  Penalty shout was a good one but I don't think we even deserved a goal, such was the gulf between the sides.

Biggest complaint was that we persisted with the ball over the top tactic for either Bogle or Tuton to chase onto.  Very obvious from the early minutes that their back four were more than quick enough to deal with that.  Yet our only variation to that was to include Chambers in options to chase down.  For me we never got Vose involved enough, he was the only player out there who was a little bit different to the out-and-out speed.  Would liked to have seen him brought further inside to hurt them with his creativity.   Bolinarwa made a a difference when he came on on because he ran at them rather than trying to chase loose balls down but he came on for the wrong man in my opinion.

Defensively we need to sharpen up quickly.  Gowling is having a nightmare at the minute and could have little complaint if his place is taken by Collins next week.  Weakest performance I've seen so far from Danny Andrew too, very under par.


I thought Crewe were decent BUT i think there will be better sides than them in this league. Yes they beat us fair and square but I am not convinced they are the all conquering side you are making out.
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September 19, 2016, 12:32pm
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As stated Crewe weren't good I think we played into there hands with the long ball over the top I believe if we had tried to play out to the wings we would have had some joy not sure Andrews is good enough doesn't want to build up play hits it long far to much which takes vose out of the game where I believe they could build up some good combination if he tried
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September 19, 2016, 12:37pm

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We didn't do the basics. Poor performances in midfield against a solid but unspectacular crewe side.  Ball over the top over used and Vose not utilised well.

Perhaps Comely, who looked excellent in his first couple of games was suffering a little from the illness reported this week.

Frustrating but nothing on those terrible home performances against part time hoofers in the conference.  


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We are obviously playing against better players this season. This league will have teams with better organised set-ups and game plans. In the Conference most of the teams came to BP and parked the bus - players with limited ability can easily follow that kind of approach. In this league we will see more closing down and sides better able to keep their shape. We have seen us doing this as well and the more this squad trains and plays together, the easier it will be for them to counteract opposition tactics.
I fully expected to see town suffer a few more home defeats this season, but I have not seen us completely outplayed. Most of the goals I have seen us concede so far have been the result of us " shooting ourselves in the foot " and not down to opposing teams completely outplaying us. At this stage of the season I would have liked to have seen 3 or 4 more points on the board but I think we are in a fairly decent position and the game against Luton showed that we are more than capable of doing well at this level.


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He played a long cross field pass to Omar just before the disallowed goal which absolutely picked a hole in their defence, not only did he have the skill to do it he also had the vision and brains, similar pass made to Chambers in the 2nd half which could have resulted in something really good. Next week I would put Vose and Cormley in the middle and have Chambers and Bolarinwas out wide.  


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F.A.O. Grammar Nerds: Isn't this called the Grimbarian Superfluous Plural Indicator? See Woods, Bradley, Cummings,Bobby.  


WTF are you talking about.........?


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