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MARINERSMAN22
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I'm compiling a list with the aim of bringing some info and possibly a book on towns greatest so any suggestions would be welcome


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John Mcdermott. no one comes close in the modern era. played in various levels all for the 1 club. Loyal Legend! True servent. Great Footballer.
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I'm compiling a list with the aim of bringing some info and possibly a book on towns greatest so any suggestions would be welcome


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Obviously before our time but Jackie Bestall deserves a mention -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Bestall


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The Goal Machine that was Gary Jones


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Mariner 09 I liked Gary Jones and I thought he was a really good asset with his hold up play and link up play but I would never really describe him as a goal machine
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Kevin Moore

Joe Waters

Bobby Cumming


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Matt Tees
Kev Moore
Bobby Cumming
Joe Waters
Trevor Whymark
John McDermott
Paul Groves
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in my life time i'd go for ; Joe waters, Tony ford, Nigel batch, Kev moore, Kevin drinkell, Super Clive mendonca & Paul groves.
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Matt Tees
Harry Wainman
Joe Waters
Kev Moore
Bobby Cumming
Nigel Batch
Kevin Drinkell
Tony Ford
Trevor Whymark
John McDermott
Paul Groves
Clive Mendonca
Danny Coyne
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Johnny Scott
Jeff Whitefoot
Jimmy Fell
Brian Hill
Paul Wilkinson
Ian Knight
John Oster
Gary Croft
Chris Nicol
Tony Ford
Sir Matt Tees
Clive Mendonca
John McDermott
Paul Groves

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...and Charlie Wright

Plus all those players who took us to 2 FA Cup semi-finals and 5th place in top league in the 1930's (a bit before my time!)
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Cannot believe we are on page 3 and no-one  has mentioned the goal machine that was Ernest (Pat) Glover. Scored goals for fun in Division 1 and scored goals for his country...Wales. My old man told me many years ago that Glover walked from South Wales to Grimsby for a trial and the management couldn't believe how good he was. At the time Town had Joe Robson at centre forward who was no slouch in the goalscoring stakes so Pat played for the Midland League side scoring I believe over 70 goals in one season. There was no protection for strikers in those days and injuries took their toll.. Glover last played just before WW2.


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September 16, 2016, 7:25pm
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Me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sir Matt, the greatest player to grace Blundell Park.
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Lots of great players
Mike Brolley
Kevin Donavan
Paul Groves
But there is one one
John McDermott
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Quoted from IlkleyMariner
Johnny Scott
Jeff Whitefoot
Jimmy Fell
Brian Hill
Paul Wilkinson
Ian Knight
John Oster
Gary Croft
Chris Nicol
Tony Ford
Sir Matt Tees
Clive Mendonca
John McDermott
Paul Groves



Some good names in there--- if you add Duncan Welbourne,Cliff Portwood, Mike Cullen and Brian Keeble I'll know your as old as me-- what about Clarrie Williams or Tweedy ?
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Garry Birtles - for me a huge part of the success in the 89 - 91 seasons real quality but also a massive influence on other players at the time.


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Fascinating stuff. I would add the pre-war names of the home grown players Betmead and Buck, another home grown player who for many years held the appearance record, Keith Jobling.

The great full back Don Donovan and his lad.

Kevin Moore and Chris Nicholl

Trevor Wymark and Kevin Drinkell

Stuart Brace and Dave Boylen

Batchy and Charlie Wright

Too many ......


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in my life time i'd go for ; Joe waters, Tony ford, Nigel batch, Kev moore, Kevin drinkell, Super Clive mendonca & Paul groves.


Aye. Me too. Probably a few more too. But these are definitely in there. Plus THE Macca.

Paul Groves = superb. Much underrated. Even though he is seen as a legend by some.


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Pat Glover
Jackie Bestall
Sid Wheelhouse
Bobby Cumming
Shaun Cunnington
John Cockerill
Big Keith
Paul Groves
Craig Disley
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This should have been titled Favourite players, how can you compare Batch with Reddy regarding greatness
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Kevin Donavon on the right in our promotion season, always remember him beating defenders and banging one in. The most talented footballer has to be Serge Makafo, he dribbled the ball like Messi but the problem was he didn't know which goal he was attacking.
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Kevin Donavon on the right in our promotion season, always remember him beating defenders and banging one in. The most talented footballer has to be Serge Makafo, he dribbled the ball like Messi but the problem was he didn't know which goal he was attacking.


Last seen dribbling down the Laceby By Pass going West
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This should have been titled Favourite players, how can you compare Batch with Reddy regarding greatness


Can't see why anyone should be infantile enough to disagree with your common sense. Greatness is a subjective word, it's a matter of opinion. Perhaps the best way round it might be to compile and compare a list of "greats" for each position. So you could have something like:-

goalkeepers

Tweedy
Moulson
Williams
Wright
Batch
Coyne
Crichton
etc.

defenders

Betmead
Buck
Chilton
Jobling
Cockerill (Ron)
Rathbone
Moore
Crombie
Keeble
Futcher
etc

midfield

Bestall
Conner
Cullen
Foster
Ross
Waters
Cunnington
Cockerill (John)
Groves
etc

wingers

Maddison
Fell
Hill
Scott
Pennington
Brace
Donovan
etc

forwards

Glover
Robson
Briggs
Crosby
Hunt
Rafferty
Tees
Green
Mendonca
Birtles
Wymark
Drinkell
etc





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Quoted from Garth
This should have been titled Favourite players, how can you compare Batch with Reddy regarding greatness


Not everyone here saw every player play. Sure there are legends everyone knows about from decades ago and there is plenty of material to read and understand why they were great but many players a lot including myself know nothing about and even for our older fans it's like "my old man told me about him".  "greatest players" is a generational thing. People are more attached to the players they grew up on and cheered for and the great players they saw. They have less attachment to names in a book that played for us in the 60's and 70's before they were even born.
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Craig Disley - delivered us back into the football league.
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Someone puy John Oster? he barely a town player really and chose Gateshead over us. room 101 for him!
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Someone puy John Oster? he barely a town player really and chose Gateshead over us. room 101 for him!
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Not everyone here saw every player play. Sure there are legends everyone knows about from decades ago and there is plenty of material to read and understand why they were great but many players a lot including myself know nothing about and even for our older fans it's like "my old man told me about him".  "greatest players" is a generational thing. People are more attached to the players they grew up on and cheered for and the great players they saw. They have less attachment to names in a book that played for us in the 60's and 70's before they were even born.


But - that only reinforces the point that greatness is subjective. It is also relative so we need to think a bit. If there were players appearing for Town week in week out at the equivalent of the PL level in the 1930s and playing in FA Cup semis, then they are obviously much better players than someone who scored at Wembley in a Conference play off final. That is not to criticise or do down the 2016 promotion winners or the fans who have only known recent bad times. It's a simple fact of life, we have to take more evidence than only our own eyes or like Garth said, it is just  "favourite" players, not "greatest" players.


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I think special mention should be made about Alec " Ginger " Hall who was a mainstay of the team in the 1930's when we were in the old first division. Not only was he a great, much feared half-back, he was also a part-timer and worked as a joiner throughout the week. It has been mentioned that some Saturdays he worked in the morning ( on the docks ) and then cycled on his carrier bike to Blundell Park to play in the afternoon.


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